Get everyone.

Get everyone.

Welcome back to another episode of Roll with the Punches. I'm your host, Tip Cook and today yes she's back. It is our regular.

Welcome back to another episode of Roll with the Punches. I'm your host, Tip Cook and today yes she's back. It is our regular.

Legend, Karen Vaughan. God, I absolutely adore that woman.

Legend, Karen Vaughan. God, I absolutely adore that woman.

We are talking about everything this time, everything from thinking ourselves sick, what sort of diseases we manage to think up in a heartbeat when on a sleepless night, through to menopause and perimenopause and childhood and all of the things nobody wants to go to court and don't. My friends are test Art Family Lawyers. Know that they offer all forms of alternative dispute resolution. Their team of Melbourne family lawyers have extensive experience in all areas of family law to facto and same sex couples, custody and children, family violence and intervention orders, property settlements and financial agreements. To test Art is in your corner, so reach out to Mark and the team at www dot test Artfamilylawyers dot com dot au.

We are talking about everything this time, everything from thinking ourselves sick, what sort of diseases we manage to think up in a heartbeat when on a sleepless night, through to menopause and perimenopause and childhood and all of the things nobody wants to go to court and don't. My friends are test Art Family Lawyers. Know that they offer all forms of alternative dispute resolution. Their team of Melbourne family lawyers have extensive experience in all areas of family law to facto and same sex couples, custody and children, family violence and intervention orders, property settlements and financial agreements. To test Art is in your corner, so reach out to Mark and the team at www dot test Artfamilylawyers dot com dot au.

Karen Vaughn, welcome back.

Karen Vaughn, welcome back.

Thank you very much, Tiffany. Good to see you too long.

Thank you very much, Tiffany. Good to see you too long.

I feel like it's been a long time again.

I feel like it's been a long time again.

I know, you know what it's kind of like, you know, when you put energy out there because I was thinking only the day you reached out, I was thinking, right, I've got to get back to Tivan. I've got to get it back on my podcast. And then oh shit, well I'll go on hers as well, and no shit that night, bam, hey mate, you want to do another part here.

I know, you know what it's kind of like, you know, when you put energy out there because I was thinking only the day you reached out, I was thinking, right, I've got to get back to Tivan. I've got to get it back on my podcast. And then oh shit, well I'll go on hers as well, and no shit that night, bam, hey mate, you want to do another part here.

It's funny, isn't it. It's in the air, like sometimes you do. You think something, you'll say something. I've had a few success like a few things lately that kind of just had that air about them where you just go, I did this thing, and then this thing popped up, and then this opportunity and yeah, I like a bit of woo woo, a bit of the old know.

It's funny, isn't it. It's in the air, like sometimes you do. You think something, you'll say something. I've had a few success like a few things lately that kind of just had that air about them where you just go, I did this thing, and then this thing popped up, and then this opportunity and yeah, I like a bit of woo woo, a bit of the old know.

Me too, universal interference.

Me too, universal interference.

That's exactly right, exactly right now. I had a tumultuous day yesterday. Did you see my goings ons?

That's exactly right, exactly right now. I had a tumultuous day yesterday. Did you see my goings ons?

It rolled? Yes, bloody hell.

It rolled? Yes, bloody hell.

What happened to her?

What happened to her?

Oh she got she got gritted in her poor pad. And so she's been limping on and off for a little while, just randomly. And she'd had a couple of treatments and been onto medication to fix it up. And then the last time I went in, they said, look, we've done all of the things. The next step is we just have to just surgically remove it. So we just put her under a sedation and surgic so, which is not a big procedure. But when they say it to someone like myself, who's last dog went in for a small, poor procedure and went under anesthetic and never came out, I was like, Oh, my heart dropped. And I was like, so, I was like, so, here's the deal, guys. This is what you're saying, and this is what I'm hearing.

Oh she got she got gritted in her poor pad. And so she's been limping on and off for a little while, just randomly. And she'd had a couple of treatments and been onto medication to fix it up. And then the last time I went in, they said, look, we've done all of the things. The next step is we just have to just surgically remove it. So we just put her under a sedation and surgic so, which is not a big procedure. But when they say it to someone like myself, who's last dog went in for a small, poor procedure and went under anesthetic and never came out, I was like, Oh, my heart dropped. And I was like, so, I was like, so, here's the deal, guys. This is what you're saying, and this is what I'm hearing.

I hope with that.

I hope with that.

They were like, they were so wonderful.

They were like, they were so wonderful.

Actually they said, look, you don't have to She's fine, you don't have to do it straight away.

Actually they said, look, you don't have to She's fine, you don't have to do it straight away.

Take some time.

Take some time.

So I took a week and mentally prepared myself.

So I took a week and mentally prepared myself.

But what's interesting, I did a podcast.

But what's interesting, I did a podcast.

That day when I come home from the experience because I found it really interesting the just observing and thinking about which is a conversation I have pretty much daily trauma and grief. And so I drop her off and as I'm leaving, as I shut the door, next minute of tears, I'm like, oh, well, quite upset about this. And it's so interesting to me that you can understand logic and think things, but the body has its own intelligence going on. And I think that's fascinating And why I did the podcast on it, that Will Solo podcast, was because everybody's response to that was like, it's so normal, it's so normal. Like I would go, oh, it's so weird, and they're like, no, no.

That day when I come home from the experience because I found it really interesting the just observing and thinking about which is a conversation I have pretty much daily trauma and grief. And so I drop her off and as I'm leaving, as I shut the door, next minute of tears, I'm like, oh, well, quite upset about this. And it's so interesting to me that you can understand logic and think things, but the body has its own intelligence going on. And I think that's fascinating And why I did the podcast on it, that Will Solo podcast, was because everybody's response to that was like, it's so normal, it's so normal. Like I would go, oh, it's so weird, and they're like, no, no.

It's normal. It's normal, and it is.

It's normal. It's normal, and it is.

But I thought it was interesting because of all of the other things that we have a similar response to emotionally that we deem as not normal, either to ourselves or to others, you know, so we get triggered and react emotionally to things that we know. Like one of the examples I used was relationships. You have a shit relationship with the poor next person that comes along, where's the brunt of the past experiences you've had? And when we talk about that or talk with our friends, we're like, yeah, but you can't. Yeah, but you can't blame them. You can't do that. And I just thought that was.

But I thought it was interesting because of all of the other things that we have a similar response to emotionally that we deem as not normal, either to ourselves or to others, you know, so we get triggered and react emotionally to things that we know. Like one of the examples I used was relationships. You have a shit relationship with the poor next person that comes along, where's the brunt of the past experiences you've had? And when we talk about that or talk with our friends, we're like, yeah, but you can't. Yeah, but you can't blame them. You can't do that. And I just thought that was.

Interesting because it's literally the same thing, isn't it.

Interesting because it's literally the same thing, isn't it.

Yep, absolutely, And I think it's even worse with pets than with people because you can't you can't have the conversation with them, you can't say you know, I'm sorry. I'm doing the best I can. I hope you'll be okay. Do you know they don't understand. They just get dropped off, and it's you know, I had a donkey, and you know, ah, there's some shit a a donkey and there's some I'm still bit shitty on things, but you know, I've got to let it go. And I'm mostly off let it go, but every now and then it comes up and I get the shits on it. But she had a well, we don't know what's wrong with her actually, and one of the vets came out and misdiagnosed her and you know, said that she had an absence in a fought and gave her some pain medication stuff like that. Anyway, she didn't get better after about maybe four or five days, so I got the vet back out again, and by this time I got a different one who said, oh, you're not well. I think we need to take her to the hospital now, anyone listening from local areas, I don't want to bag the hospital because they do a really good job. But and the vet does a really good job. But this is this is an interesting concept about misunderstanding what people are saying because they said, we'll take it to the hospital if you don't mind, and where we can monitor her. Now my brain goes, so there's cameras there, because I knew there was cameras for when the horses are falling. They'll have someone sitting watching the cameras all night monitoring her. Because that's how I interpret it. Well, I get a phone call the next day, sorry to tell you she died overnight, and I said, how how did that happen? I don't know. We came in this morning and she was dead, and I'm like, but hang on. You told me you were monitoring her, and they said, yeah, we were, and I said, but hang on, And I was like, so I've got this well up of grief, do you know, Like I've just lost my donkey. But I wasn't expecting that to happen. It was somewhere along lines I'm not understanding what the hell's been said here or what's going on. And it was kind of like, no, well that's not what we said. We just said we'll monitor her, you know. And actually I went to the vet to the manager and had had a big meeting, probably over an hour about how this needs to be better communicated, and it's not it's not okay. But and had I known she was going to die, because the vet did tell me else, someone else there could tell that that's probably going to happen, and and but not for that, it's not for that person to tell me. Does that make sense? Like this is a whole several steps of communication, back to how do we known that? I would have said, there's not a chance in hell you're taking her. She's going to die in my shed with the other donkey by her side, you know, so that she's and I would have slept out there. So it's I think with animals people and people misunderstand that it's the same amount of grief if you really love your animals, it's that it is the same. And sometimes I think it's worse than a because at lice you didn't have that conversation. But then you've got all this like I couldn't tell you, I couldn't say anything, and I'm haunted by her eyes in the in the float going off. Do you know what I mean? So I think animals are worse. I think it's worse, worse thing or are you leaving? You know, Luna? There yesterday whenever it was, you know, and it's kind of like, I can't tell you. I can't tell you what I'm feeling. I look at us. You are both of us balling our friggan eye that.

Yep, absolutely, And I think it's even worse with pets than with people because you can't you can't have the conversation with them, you can't say you know, I'm sorry. I'm doing the best I can. I hope you'll be okay. Do you know they don't understand. They just get dropped off, and it's you know, I had a donkey, and you know, ah, there's some shit a a donkey and there's some I'm still bit shitty on things, but you know, I've got to let it go. And I'm mostly off let it go, but every now and then it comes up and I get the shits on it. But she had a well, we don't know what's wrong with her actually, and one of the vets came out and misdiagnosed her and you know, said that she had an absence in a fought and gave her some pain medication stuff like that. Anyway, she didn't get better after about maybe four or five days, so I got the vet back out again, and by this time I got a different one who said, oh, you're not well. I think we need to take her to the hospital now, anyone listening from local areas, I don't want to bag the hospital because they do a really good job. But and the vet does a really good job. But this is this is an interesting concept about misunderstanding what people are saying because they said, we'll take it to the hospital if you don't mind, and where we can monitor her. Now my brain goes, so there's cameras there, because I knew there was cameras for when the horses are falling. They'll have someone sitting watching the cameras all night monitoring her. Because that's how I interpret it. Well, I get a phone call the next day, sorry to tell you she died overnight, and I said, how how did that happen? I don't know. We came in this morning and she was dead, and I'm like, but hang on. You told me you were monitoring her, and they said, yeah, we were, and I said, but hang on, And I was like, so I've got this well up of grief, do you know, Like I've just lost my donkey. But I wasn't expecting that to happen. It was somewhere along lines I'm not understanding what the hell's been said here or what's going on. And it was kind of like, no, well that's not what we said. We just said we'll monitor her, you know. And actually I went to the vet to the manager and had had a big meeting, probably over an hour about how this needs to be better communicated, and it's not it's not okay. But and had I known she was going to die, because the vet did tell me else, someone else there could tell that that's probably going to happen, and and but not for that, it's not for that person to tell me. Does that make sense? Like this is a whole several steps of communication, back to how do we known that? I would have said, there's not a chance in hell you're taking her. She's going to die in my shed with the other donkey by her side, you know, so that she's and I would have slept out there. So it's I think with animals people and people misunderstand that it's the same amount of grief if you really love your animals, it's that it is the same. And sometimes I think it's worse than a because at lice you didn't have that conversation. But then you've got all this like I couldn't tell you, I couldn't say anything, and I'm haunted by her eyes in the in the float going off. Do you know what I mean? So I think animals are worse. I think it's worse, worse thing or are you leaving? You know, Luna? There yesterday whenever it was, you know, and it's kind of like, I can't tell you. I can't tell you what I'm feeling. I look at us. You are both of us balling our friggan eye that.

So I'm going to pick her up, and I'm waiting she's been to come out, and and I'm thinking, oh, because you know, like she gets a bit nervy at the best of times, thinking oh, so like, oh, she's been through all this. She trots out, bagging a fucking tail at me and not shaking, just looking more relaxed than ever. Obviously she was still under a bit of sedation, because she simmered down when she got home and kind of was a bit sad in her crepe.

So I'm going to pick her up, and I'm waiting she's been to come out, and and I'm thinking, oh, because you know, like she gets a bit nervy at the best of times, thinking oh, so like, oh, she's been through all this. She trots out, bagging a fucking tail at me and not shaking, just looking more relaxed than ever. Obviously she was still under a bit of sedation, because she simmered down when she got home and kind of was a bit sad in her crepe.

But I was like, oh, I might mind. The only one that's been in kirts all day, mate, what's going on here?

But I was like, oh, I might mind. The only one that's been in kirts all day, mate, what's going on here?

There's the other side. Isn't it that we overthink it?

There's the other side. Isn't it that we overthink it?

They don't the lesson the lesson I take, Like I just called her my guru yesterday because I went into deep introspection about the fact that you know, she then she she runs out.

They don't the lesson the lesson I take, Like I just called her my guru yesterday because I went into deep introspection about the fact that you know, she then she she runs out.

I pick up the lead this morning.

I pick up the lead this morning.

She runs out on her three legs, wagging her tail, with stars in her eyes because she we're going to go outside. And I was like, what the beauty of not having what humans have, which is the ability to what if and consider and think about the past and the future and ruminate. She doesn't have that they have. Obviously, they will respond to pain, they'll respond to an environment that they sense and get anxiety for some reason. Well, once that moment's passed, or even when it hasn't, she's like, oh, well, I've got three other feet, I'll pick this one up. She runs just as fast she sees someone at the gym she knows, and she's running with three legs across to sail oad to them. And I just thought, all right, I got my notepad, mate, anything else you want to teach me about this life I'm living?

She runs out on her three legs, wagging her tail, with stars in her eyes because she we're going to go outside. And I was like, what the beauty of not having what humans have, which is the ability to what if and consider and think about the past and the future and ruminate. She doesn't have that they have. Obviously, they will respond to pain, they'll respond to an environment that they sense and get anxiety for some reason. Well, once that moment's passed, or even when it hasn't, she's like, oh, well, I've got three other feet, I'll pick this one up. She runs just as fast she sees someone at the gym she knows, and she's running with three legs across to sail oad to them. And I just thought, all right, I got my notepad, mate, anything else you want to teach me about this life I'm living?

And it's a lot about survival, is there with animals. It's kind of like, I've only got three legs. I've got to stay upright, you know. I can't. I can't be I can't be caught. So therefore I'll make it work. But we we go into this poor me bloody, you know, and what if what if this disease leads to this one? And then what if I end up with God knows what. Like nick and I often we joke about it, you know, I say I didn't sleep well last night, and Nicky says, what what disease did you decide? Decide you had? And I'm like, oh, I actually I will think about that. Then we joked that we thought we were the only to do that. And then I said to someone else, Nay, I said, and when you lie awake, you think about every disease you've gotten. She said, I do. I think we're all done.

And it's a lot about survival, is there with animals. It's kind of like, I've only got three legs. I've got to stay upright, you know. I can't. I can't be I can't be caught. So therefore I'll make it work. But we we go into this poor me bloody, you know, and what if what if this disease leads to this one? And then what if I end up with God knows what. Like nick and I often we joke about it, you know, I say I didn't sleep well last night, and Nicky says, what what disease did you decide? Decide you had? And I'm like, oh, I actually I will think about that. Then we joked that we thought we were the only to do that. And then I said to someone else, Nay, I said, and when you lie awake, you think about every disease you've gotten. She said, I do. I think we're all done.

I was saying this other day. We had a skin check.

I was saying this other day. We had a skin check.

Recently, Harps had a skin check and ended up getting it forty eight bloody things chopped out of his face.

Recently, Harps had a skin check and ended up getting it forty eight bloody things chopped out of his face.

And he's got.

And he's got.

Not forty eight, but he's got to have I think he's got to go back three times to have things. So he's gonna move because he's a silly boy, hasn't been doing his yearly checks. Once you get something, I've got it yearly. I had a squire of cel car carsonom on.

Not forty eight, but he's got to have I think he's got to go back three times to have things. So he's gonna move because he's a silly boy, hasn't been doing his yearly checks. Once you get something, I've got it yearly. I had a squire of cel car carsonom on.

My face years ago.

My face years ago.

Anyway, It's like I've been I've had this thing on my nose for ages, this little and I'm like, that's that's the bit skin there. That's definitely. I've got to get that. That'll be fucking skin cancer. But you know, you don't hurry ye in the day that it's booked. As you're sitting in the waiting room, I'm like, okay, well it's my will up to date, you know, like this that waiting time. It's like, it's funny how in our mind we can go I've made the decision that's skin cancer, but I'm too busy to deal with it at the moment.

Anyway, It's like I've been I've had this thing on my nose for ages, this little and I'm like, that's that's the bit skin there. That's definitely. I've got to get that. That'll be fucking skin cancer. But you know, you don't hurry ye in the day that it's booked. As you're sitting in the waiting room, I'm like, okay, well it's my will up to date, you know, like this that waiting time. It's like, it's funny how in our mind we can go I've made the decision that's skin cancer, but I'm too busy to deal with it at the moment.

I've got shit, I've got ship to do.

I've got shit, I've got ship to do.

But then the moment that I've got about to deal with it and someone's going to tell me a story about it, Oh, the action, the action that happens in my mind, what the fuck? It fascinates me because I because of all the conversations we have about people that deal with ship and how to how to deal with life. I'm just fascinated by the I don't know, trying to figure it all out.

But then the moment that I've got about to deal with it and someone's going to tell me a story about it, Oh, the action, the action that happens in my mind, what the fuck? It fascinates me because I because of all the conversations we have about people that deal with ship and how to how to deal with life. I'm just fascinated by the I don't know, trying to figure it all out.

Yeah, me too, me too. I don't think we'll ever get it. We won't. Like we're whether we're supposed to be the smartest being on the planet. I bloody really reckon, we're the most stupid.

Yeah, me too, me too. I don't think we'll ever get it. We won't. Like we're whether we're supposed to be the smartest being on the planet. I bloody really reckon, we're the most stupid.

Like we're supposed to be the smartest, because we're the judges. We're the we're the judges of that, so of course we're going to say we're the smartest. All the other animals in their own language, You going look these tosses circus because who else, who else runs around picking up poop after a dog?

Like we're supposed to be the smartest, because we're the judges. We're the we're the judges of that, so of course we're going to say we're the smartest. All the other animals in their own language, You going look these tosses circus because who else, who else runs around picking up poop after a dog?

They're like, lave that.

They're like, lave that.

Yeah, that's gross.

Yeah, that's gross.

But we are stupid, Like we we're bloody damaging the planet. We're killing each other, we're harming animals, you know, like we're absolute dickheads. Really, when you're the species, do you know? I don't believe there's great individuals who are doing great work and all that kind of but as a whole, as a species, Christ almighty. So wonder we've got a planet left. It's a wonder where. It's a wonder we haven't actually wiped ourselves out. I reckon that's coming soon, but you know who, I.

But we are stupid, Like we we're bloody damaging the planet. We're killing each other, we're harming animals, you know, like we're absolute dickheads. Really, when you're the species, do you know? I don't believe there's great individuals who are doing great work and all that kind of but as a whole, as a species, Christ almighty. So wonder we've got a planet left. It's a wonder where. It's a wonder we haven't actually wiped ourselves out. I reckon that's coming soon, but you know who, I.

Reckon it's coming soon too. It's interesting because we do, we can know things. It's like there's two components to our intelligence, and we're driven equal, maybe not even equally, we're driven by both one and one of them is that is all the unconscious stuff, and that's the troublesome one because we can tell stories. I've always told stories to myself about who I am and why I do what I do.

Reckon it's coming soon too. It's interesting because we do, we can know things. It's like there's two components to our intelligence, and we're driven equal, maybe not even equally, we're driven by both one and one of them is that is all the unconscious stuff, and that's the troublesome one because we can tell stories. I've always told stories to myself about who I am and why I do what I do.

And you know, that's.

And you know, that's.

Why I talk about that harsh reality of that getting in the boxing at thirty and getting this self awareness and going, fuck, that's a big story to if you're not that person, you're someone else. And all the reasons that you think you're getting pulled positively towards something actually like a magnet, you're getting repelled from your fears. You're actually driven by being scared and a whole bunch of negative stuff. And I think that's true with humans. Like we know, we've got all the information in the world, like how do you train a dog not to we inside? You don't rub its nose in the carpet and lock it up. But when humans misbehave we rub them metaphoric nose in the carpet and lock them in a cell and cause them more trauma. And fuck, we know better, but we can't figure it out.

Why I talk about that harsh reality of that getting in the boxing at thirty and getting this self awareness and going, fuck, that's a big story to if you're not that person, you're someone else. And all the reasons that you think you're getting pulled positively towards something actually like a magnet, you're getting repelled from your fears. You're actually driven by being scared and a whole bunch of negative stuff. And I think that's true with humans. Like we know, we've got all the information in the world, like how do you train a dog not to we inside? You don't rub its nose in the carpet and lock it up. But when humans misbehave we rub them metaphoric nose in the carpet and lock them in a cell and cause them more trauma. And fuck, we know better, but we can't figure it out.

There's a tribe somewhere and in the Amazon I think they are. I don't know. I'm making sit up, but I'm not making the story up, but I'm making shit up. The actual dilit logistics up. But they they when a young person in their tribe, you know, stuff's up. What they do is they all they put them in the center of a circle and they all stand around them and they all just keep chanting, not you know, saying it in turns, taking turns to say how wonderful this person is and all the good things about them, and they won't let them out of the circle. This could take days. They won't let them out until the person actually believes that they're that good person that they're all telling them they are. It's some I wish I knew more detail on it, but it's an actual tribe, and it's how amazing, how wonderful. What if we did that? What if teachers did what if schools did that? What if we you know, parents did that? What if I don't know?

There's a tribe somewhere and in the Amazon I think they are. I don't know. I'm making sit up, but I'm not making the story up, but I'm making shit up. The actual dilit logistics up. But they they when a young person in their tribe, you know, stuff's up. What they do is they all they put them in the center of a circle and they all stand around them and they all just keep chanting, not you know, saying it in turns, taking turns to say how wonderful this person is and all the good things about them, and they won't let them out of the circle. This could take days. They won't let them out until the person actually believes that they're that good person that they're all telling them they are. It's some I wish I knew more detail on it, but it's an actual tribe, and it's how amazing, how wonderful. What if we did that? What if teachers did what if schools did that? What if we you know, parents did that? What if I don't know?

Oh my, oh my goodness. He have you ever spoken to you if there's a guest that you need to have on your show. I've talked to him twice and I'd say he's one of my favorites. I fucking love him. His name's Govin McCormack and the last time he came on with his with his mate and business partner Dan Larcas. Dan Larcas was one of the principles of what's his name, Elon Musk's.

Oh my, oh my goodness. He have you ever spoken to you if there's a guest that you need to have on your show. I've talked to him twice and I'd say he's one of my favorites. I fucking love him. His name's Govin McCormack and the last time he came on with his with his mate and business partner Dan Larcas. Dan Larcas was one of the principles of what's his name, Elon Musk's.

School, oh yeah.

School, oh yeah.

For five or six years, and him and Gavin are doing this school project together. Gavin is an ambassador for Montessori schools, so when he talks about teaching and kids learning, and it's just it's just phenomenal and it actually just shifts your shifts your mind about everything the way we perceive and behave and self belief. Like, I don't know, I just think it's phenomenal when you can consider something that has such an impact like that, You're gonna get to one show, make sure I introduce you.

For five or six years, and him and Gavin are doing this school project together. Gavin is an ambassador for Montessori schools, so when he talks about teaching and kids learning, and it's just it's just phenomenal and it actually just shifts your shifts your mind about everything the way we perceive and behave and self belief. Like, I don't know, I just think it's phenomenal when you can consider something that has such an impact like that, You're gonna get to one show, make sure I introduce you.

Yeah, yeah, I will thank you. That'd be good. How is it that? How is it that there are these little minorities, little pockets in the community, like the Montessori schools and you know and all that sort of stuff. How is it that they do such great work, you know, and there's so much evidence of their great work, and yet they remain minority pockets, do you know? It's like and they're even shunned, you know, by mainstream It's kind of like, what's the fear there, Let's let's keep these people back, let's hold them. You know, we don't want kids to to be empowered. And Margaret Mead said, I've got this in my Magnificent Kids book, you know. Margaret Mead said, we need to teach children how to think, not what to think, do you know? And I freakin love that, because if if we could get these little pockets just sort of rippling out way more, you know, and then smashing the mainstream. Go, I don't I'm kid. Anyone says there's going to be people listening to this, go, no, you're rucking, you're wrong, But I don't care. I think mainstream schools are finished, like I think it's where it's outdated, you know, we're not. And we've got all these young kids. Two of my sisters teacher's aids all that well being people in schools, and all these young kids, particularly in high school are just off the rails, you know, and it's not working anymore. There's so many schools. It's not just their school, like I hear it, it's everywhere, do you know. The kids are just out of control. And I'm not blaming the kids. I'm saying that we've had a shift in who kids are and the education system is not keeping up with them, do you know, it's just not it's still trying to force them to sit down and compete with each other. And if you don't get a good mark, your shit, and you know that it doesn't work anymore. And they'll say, no, we're not We've got great programs, We've got this snap. The great programs are still based on old evidence to you know, internal evidence, like we've got to Yeah, because I worry, and I know this sounds a bit negative, it sounds fear based, but I worry about their future. You know that I worry about the kids. I worry that they're going to take over the planet and and and stuff it up. And it's not because I don't believe in them. I just don't believe they've got the skills or the the you know, the capacity what they need, you know, the resilience to even manage the planet, you know. And it's bloody scares me a bit, you know. I'd love to love to be more more love based and go oh, I can't wait for them all to take over, but it may.

Yeah, yeah, I will thank you. That'd be good. How is it that? How is it that there are these little minorities, little pockets in the community, like the Montessori schools and you know and all that sort of stuff. How is it that they do such great work, you know, and there's so much evidence of their great work, and yet they remain minority pockets, do you know? It's like and they're even shunned, you know, by mainstream It's kind of like, what's the fear there, Let's let's keep these people back, let's hold them. You know, we don't want kids to to be empowered. And Margaret Mead said, I've got this in my Magnificent Kids book, you know. Margaret Mead said, we need to teach children how to think, not what to think, do you know? And I freakin love that, because if if we could get these little pockets just sort of rippling out way more, you know, and then smashing the mainstream. Go, I don't I'm kid. Anyone says there's going to be people listening to this, go, no, you're rucking, you're wrong, But I don't care. I think mainstream schools are finished, like I think it's where it's outdated, you know, we're not. And we've got all these young kids. Two of my sisters teacher's aids all that well being people in schools, and all these young kids, particularly in high school are just off the rails, you know, and it's not working anymore. There's so many schools. It's not just their school, like I hear it, it's everywhere, do you know. The kids are just out of control. And I'm not blaming the kids. I'm saying that we've had a shift in who kids are and the education system is not keeping up with them, do you know, it's just not it's still trying to force them to sit down and compete with each other. And if you don't get a good mark, your shit, and you know that it doesn't work anymore. And they'll say, no, we're not We've got great programs, We've got this snap. The great programs are still based on old evidence to you know, internal evidence, like we've got to Yeah, because I worry, and I know this sounds a bit negative, it sounds fear based, but I worry about their future. You know that I worry about the kids. I worry that they're going to take over the planet and and and stuff it up. And it's not because I don't believe in them. I just don't believe they've got the skills or the the you know, the capacity what they need, you know, the resilience to even manage the planet, you know. And it's bloody scares me a bit, you know. I'd love to love to be more more love based and go oh, I can't wait for them all to take over, but it may.

Oh, They're just they don't have good leaders and we are the leaders, right and we we aren't able to lead. It's a bit of as muzzle. I just feel like.

Oh, They're just they don't have good leaders and we are the leaders, right and we we aren't able to lead. It's a bit of as muzzle. I just feel like.

Things that are so well established are now driven by so many things that make it hard. Right, So money for a start, everything's a business. Everything is a business and or a version of power, and it's people need to step down and hand over rains, and there's too much at stake to do that. I remember names or anything. But somebody who I used to teach at a university used to do some lecturing in their field of expertise and in the it's in the physical kind of wellnessy rehabby kind of space, and they said they stopped. They chose not to anymore because they were people were getting put into these schools and they didn't know then of the prerequisites they were meant to They didn't even know the basics that they needed to know in order to.

Things that are so well established are now driven by so many things that make it hard. Right, So money for a start, everything's a business. Everything is a business and or a version of power, and it's people need to step down and hand over rains, and there's too much at stake to do that. I remember names or anything. But somebody who I used to teach at a university used to do some lecturing in their field of expertise and in the it's in the physical kind of wellnessy rehabby kind of space, and they said they stopped. They chose not to anymore because they were people were getting put into these schools and they didn't know then of the prerequisites they were meant to They didn't even know the basics that they needed to know in order to.

Be in the room.

Be in the room.

And then he marked them accordingly, and then he got in trouble and somebody overrode his marks. He said, you can't fail these students, and he said, I've got a duty of care because they're going out to in inverted commas fixed people in the fundio and they don't have the knowledge they need to have to even even sit in this classroom little and go out touching anybody. And that was because the school had a reputation from bringing international students and getting so much money from that and getting great outcomes. And I was like, because it's all a facade, it's just all it's a big fear. But like, how do you even combat that?

And then he marked them accordingly, and then he got in trouble and somebody overrode his marks. He said, you can't fail these students, and he said, I've got a duty of care because they're going out to in inverted commas fixed people in the fundio and they don't have the knowledge they need to have to even even sit in this classroom little and go out touching anybody. And that was because the school had a reputation from bringing international students and getting so much money from that and getting great outcomes. And I was like, because it's all a facade, it's just all it's a big fear. But like, how do you even combat that?

I don't know. I don't know. I honestly don't know. I think I'm a big problem solver and I ponder all this stuff, but i'm and usually I used to be good at it. Not my age, but I used to be like the world operated in a way where you could think, ah, yeah, well if we did that, and we did that, you know that would work. Now I think that the chaos has become so big, do you know, it's kind of like, yeah, well could do that, but hang on, that won't work because this one over here is this and oh hang on, didn't consider that one and that's actually being undermined by this one.

I don't know. I don't know. I honestly don't know. I think I'm a big problem solver and I ponder all this stuff, but i'm and usually I used to be good at it. Not my age, but I used to be like the world operated in a way where you could think, ah, yeah, well if we did that, and we did that, you know that would work. Now I think that the chaos has become so big, do you know, it's kind of like, yeah, well could do that, but hang on, that won't work because this one over here is this and oh hang on, didn't consider that one and that's actually being undermined by this one.

Do you know?

Do you know?

It's yeah, it's a I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. And it's kind of like, how do you how do you find contentment? Do you know? How do you find peace when you're overwhelmed by possibilities and overwhelmed by I don't know. I don't know the answer. Not that we have to have the answer and everything, but I can't see a solution, do you know. And nobody's coming forth with a solution. But can you just sit on your couch and have a happy night and find peace? Do you know? It's my struggle with that, and really I overthink it.

It's yeah, it's a I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. And it's kind of like, how do you how do you find contentment? Do you know? How do you find peace when you're overwhelmed by possibilities and overwhelmed by I don't know. I don't know the answer. Not that we have to have the answer and everything, but I can't see a solution, do you know. And nobody's coming forth with a solution. But can you just sit on your couch and have a happy night and find peace? Do you know? It's my struggle with that, and really I overthink it.

Yeah, I've been thinking about heaps, but I had a shitty year with energy and fatigue and mood, and so it's been a real struggle. And I said to you before we hopped on. For the last two weeks, I felt good. I'm doing a thing called seventy five hard and it's two workout today. One's got to be outside. You got to stick to a nutrition plan or diet of some sort. It's flexible, whatever you want, but you stick to it. You have to take a photo every day. You have to have a gallon of Water's nearly four weeks peeing a lot for the bloody Olympics this last two weeks.

Yeah, I've been thinking about heaps, but I had a shitty year with energy and fatigue and mood, and so it's been a real struggle. And I said to you before we hopped on. For the last two weeks, I felt good. I'm doing a thing called seventy five hard and it's two workout today. One's got to be outside. You got to stick to a nutrition plan or diet of some sort. It's flexible, whatever you want, but you stick to it. You have to take a photo every day. You have to have a gallon of Water's nearly four weeks peeing a lot for the bloody Olympics this last two weeks.

What else?

What else?

You've got to read ten pages of a professional or a personal development style book, read them, not listening more audible.

You've got to read ten pages of a professional or a personal development style book, read them, not listening more audible.

So there's a whole bunch of stuff.

So there's a whole bunch of stuff.

And my training has been rubbish this year, and I started at day three, I was like this, I can't do this. I'm burnt out anyways, And so the workouts themselves, they're not strenuous, but I'm doing them. I have felt the best I have felt all year. But I've been thinking about it because I'm trying to figure out for me what was what's the change? Like I went through half the year getting tests for met perimenopause.

And my training has been rubbish this year, and I started at day three, I was like this, I can't do this. I'm burnt out anyways, And so the workouts themselves, they're not strenuous, but I'm doing them. I have felt the best I have felt all year. But I've been thinking about it because I'm trying to figure out for me what was what's the change? Like I went through half the year getting tests for met perimenopause.

I'm going is this just burnout? Is this bloody?

I'm going is this just burnout? Is this bloody?

Have I been in a bloody trauma state from previous stuff that I've just been like coping mechanisms, Like what's going on? There's all these different things. But then I've been really good with supplements for quite a while. I've paid attention to my sleep for a while. And then I'd started going back over all of my old coaching curriculum when I did my coaching courses, just going back over it and self coaching and getting that language back in my own mind, but trying to do it from the perspective as if some I'm with a coach. So when I think about that and go, well, what is it. I think it's all the one percenters, but you never really know. And then you go, well, the end of the day, there's this whole bunch of stuff that you have to do that you probably can't be stuffed now. I can't be bothered every night when I haven't read those ten pages yet, I'm like, fucking hell, ten pages of reading.

Have I been in a bloody trauma state from previous stuff that I've just been like coping mechanisms, Like what's going on? There's all these different things. But then I've been really good with supplements for quite a while. I've paid attention to my sleep for a while. And then I'd started going back over all of my old coaching curriculum when I did my coaching courses, just going back over it and self coaching and getting that language back in my own mind, but trying to do it from the perspective as if some I'm with a coach. So when I think about that and go, well, what is it. I think it's all the one percenters, but you never really know. And then you go, well, the end of the day, there's this whole bunch of stuff that you have to do that you probably can't be stuffed now. I can't be bothered every night when I haven't read those ten pages yet, I'm like, fucking hell, ten pages of reading.

I'm tired. I just wanted too. No, you've committed to this, You've got to read the book.

I'm tired. I just wanted too. No, you've committed to this, You've got to read the book.

Yeah, and there's then there's this cascade of it, behaviors that change.

Yeah, and there's then there's this cascade of it, behaviors that change.

And like I said, I'm feeling good. So it's an experiment.

And like I said, I'm feeling good. So it's an experiment.

Well that's really yeah, you're like me. I experiment with everything. I think that's wonderful, you know because and I really do think you've hit the nail on the head that you have to you have to push through something, you know. I always say, it's like, if you want to get in dance in the field of daisies, you've got to you've got to cut through the bloody forest of blackberries, and you're going to get dinged up and scratched and banged up.

Well that's really yeah, you're like me. I experiment with everything. I think that's wonderful, you know because and I really do think you've hit the nail on the head that you have to you have to push through something, you know. I always say, it's like, if you want to get in dance in the field of daisies, you've got to you've got to cut through the bloody forest of blackberries, and you're going to get dinged up and scratched and banged up.

And we love that nalgy.

And we love that nalgy.

It's a great analogy and it's going to hurt. It's really going to hurt. But I'm like you, I've got Oh, I ain't going I'm going through this. I've actually just started on HRT and I've been against it. I've been against it, you know, and and to be honest, I don't know anything about it. I've just been against it because I read that you should be against it. Yeah, that kind of ship.

It's a great analogy and it's going to hurt. It's really going to hurt. But I'm like you, I've got Oh, I ain't going I'm going through this. I've actually just started on HRT and I've been against it. I've been against it, you know, and and to be honest, I don't know anything about it. I've just been against it because I read that you should be against it. Yeah, that kind of ship.

Is the thing, right, Well, I've done a episodes with people in the past, so you can have a listen.

Is the thing, right, Well, I've done a episodes with people in the past, so you can have a listen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, well we've been listening to a lot of podcast and Nikki has been particular, has been listening and going, hang on a minute. This is because these symptoms are because of lack of estrogen, you know. And you wouldn't believe the stuff we've discovered is because of a lack of estrogen. And then we're like and then they're well, HRTs, okay if it's the patch or a gel, but do not take the tablets. And I know people have been taking the tablets and have been a disaster, have been an utter disaster for various reasons. And I'm not a HRT expert and I am definitely not promoting it. I'm just saying I'm trialing it. And I'm going to say that my mental state. And I'm not saying my mental health because I haven't had mental health problems, but mental state like fatigue, forgetfulness, you know, foggy brain, you know, just just tired eyes, you know, just this whole I can't remember, you know, I can't focus for long enough. All of that has improved dramatically. Like I'm still ten o'clock at night. I've still got a sharp brain, and that is That's incredible. What's got worse? So I reckon and I'm still experimenting with this is my emotional state. Like I'm finding my emotions are coming up much. It's probably a good thing. I'm not complaining about it, but they're a lot more, a lot more clear, do you know, It's a lot more. I actually know what I'm really emotional about, rather than just feeling emotional. And I think it's a horrible stage at the moment, but I think it will. I can see it's a BlackBerry stage. Does that make sense? Yeah, And then it'll be better because I think it's bringing up grief, do you know. I think it's I think it's bringing up a lot of that sort of stuff. That I hadn't brought up properly.

Well, well we've been listening to a lot of podcast and Nikki has been particular, has been listening and going, hang on a minute. This is because these symptoms are because of lack of estrogen, you know. And you wouldn't believe the stuff we've discovered is because of a lack of estrogen. And then we're like and then they're well, HRTs, okay if it's the patch or a gel, but do not take the tablets. And I know people have been taking the tablets and have been a disaster, have been an utter disaster for various reasons. And I'm not a HRT expert and I am definitely not promoting it. I'm just saying I'm trialing it. And I'm going to say that my mental state. And I'm not saying my mental health because I haven't had mental health problems, but mental state like fatigue, forgetfulness, you know, foggy brain, you know, just just tired eyes, you know, just this whole I can't remember, you know, I can't focus for long enough. All of that has improved dramatically. Like I'm still ten o'clock at night. I've still got a sharp brain, and that is That's incredible. What's got worse? So I reckon and I'm still experimenting with this is my emotional state. Like I'm finding my emotions are coming up much. It's probably a good thing. I'm not complaining about it, but they're a lot more, a lot more clear, do you know, It's a lot more. I actually know what I'm really emotional about, rather than just feeling emotional. And I think it's a horrible stage at the moment, but I think it will. I can see it's a BlackBerry stage. Does that make sense? Yeah, And then it'll be better because I think it's bringing up grief, do you know. I think it's I think it's bringing up a lot of that sort of stuff. That I hadn't brought up properly.

How long have you been trialing the HT.

How long have you been trialing the HT.

About five weeks?

About five weeks?

Right?

Right?

Yeah? Five or five weeks? Maybe six? But you know whatever, not no long, but the other but there, and this is where you're talking about what is it the one percent? You know, the bah blah blah. My physical state has been worse. So I wanted to go on it because I had muscle aches and joint aches and you know, tired and bloody blah blah blah blah blah. But I felt worse. And then now I've got the experiment going. Is it that am I on the wrong dose or is it because and it coincides exactly with our Bernie Mountain dog lying across our doorway. I went to step over her. She stood up at the same time I went ass over tit on our tiles really hard. I'm sixty one, so I don't land like a bloody blubber balloon, you know, little Gumby. I'm like a bloody watermelon. And I landed on my left shoulder and my left hip and so all my left side has been absolutely in agony. But I've had massages and I've had kaya, I've had all that kind of stuff, but it's not bloody. So now I'm going, well, is it the HRT? Is it the bloody dog? Do you know? So how the hell do you know? Did you know? And then then you go, well, maybe I don't haven't enough magnesium, So then you start on that, and then the will is that going to confuse? Is that going to confuse? Yeah, you're like me, it's just not stop bloody thinking?

Yeah? Five or five weeks? Maybe six? But you know whatever, not no long, but the other but there, and this is where you're talking about what is it the one percent? You know, the bah blah blah. My physical state has been worse. So I wanted to go on it because I had muscle aches and joint aches and you know, tired and bloody blah blah blah blah blah. But I felt worse. And then now I've got the experiment going. Is it that am I on the wrong dose or is it because and it coincides exactly with our Bernie Mountain dog lying across our doorway. I went to step over her. She stood up at the same time I went ass over tit on our tiles really hard. I'm sixty one, so I don't land like a bloody blubber balloon, you know, little Gumby. I'm like a bloody watermelon. And I landed on my left shoulder and my left hip and so all my left side has been absolutely in agony. But I've had massages and I've had kaya, I've had all that kind of stuff, but it's not bloody. So now I'm going, well, is it the HRT? Is it the bloody dog? Do you know? So how the hell do you know? Did you know? And then then you go, well, maybe I don't haven't enough magnesium, So then you start on that, and then the will is that going to confuse? Is that going to confuse? Yeah, you're like me, it's just not stop bloody thinking?

Is that? This?

Is that? This?

Is that? That got to be that? And do I have a fucking disease? Have I got?

Is that? That got to be that? And do I have a fucking disease? Have I got?

Now?

Now?

Got buddy answering me fucking him dinner? You know, that's like, I don't know why I'm laughing about it, but I'm laughing at the stupidity of the constant narrative that goes on. You know, it's I don't know. Yeah, I hope your listeners write in and say, yeah, I do that too, because I don't want us to be the only ones in the world that.

Got buddy answering me fucking him dinner? You know, that's like, I don't know why I'm laughing about it, but I'm laughing at the stupidity of the constant narrative that goes on. You know, it's I don't know. Yeah, I hope your listeners write in and say, yeah, I do that too, because I don't want us to be the only ones in the world that.

They will make.

They will make.

Because I've talked a lot about, especially earlier in the year, when I said, you know what, I'm getting my hormones tested not early for me, but this is this is not normal, Like my sleep had gone from unbiggin insomniac anyway, but it had gone for three thirty am.

Because I've talked a lot about, especially earlier in the year, when I said, you know what, I'm getting my hormones tested not early for me, but this is this is not normal, Like my sleep had gone from unbiggin insomniac anyway, but it had gone for three thirty am.

Wake up like I never wake up.

Wake up like I never wake up.

Oh that's what I did.

Oh that's what I did.

Wake up. Like you know when you feel your body just go activated.

Wake up. Like you know when you feel your body just go activated.

Well, the HRT has stopped that for me. I'm not I just want to interrupt one to say that, like I forgot to say that my sleep has been incredible, really really really back to normal since taking and I was doing what you're saying.

Well, the HRT has stopped that for me. I'm not I just want to interrupt one to say that, like I forgot to say that my sleep has been incredible, really really really back to normal since taking and I was doing what you're saying.

Yeah, HRT has worked wonders for a couple of my friends and I started to try it, but then I had to this might be too much information people. I did go and get the precautionary boob scan like the ultrasound, just to make sure, and then that come up and they want then I had to go see a specialist. And then of course I diagnosed myself with breast cancer. And that was one of those situations I was like, oh, well, fuck, what am I gonna do with my life now? You know when like, oh, they'll be back by the end of the week. And then on the Tuesday, it's like I get a text message your results.

Yeah, HRT has worked wonders for a couple of my friends and I started to try it, but then I had to this might be too much information people. I did go and get the precautionary boob scan like the ultrasound, just to make sure, and then that come up and they want then I had to go see a specialist. And then of course I diagnosed myself with breast cancer. And that was one of those situations I was like, oh, well, fuck, what am I gonna do with my life now? You know when like, oh, they'll be back by the end of the week. And then on the Tuesday, it's like I get a text message your results.

Or and you need to go and be reviewed.

Or and you need to go and be reviewed.

And I was like, oh my god.

And I was like, oh my god.

Yeah, oh, so I booked about one hour. I books the appointment for one hour's time. I was like, good within that hour, it was astounding the plans I'd made with my end of life. I was like, what am I doing with my And that's again why I'm fascinated by We try and we borrow. I get to borrow people's perspective all the time. But nothing is the same as your BlackBerry bush. Nothing brings change your perspective or your own deep understanding more than your own emotions.

Yeah, oh, so I booked about one hour. I books the appointment for one hour's time. I was like, good within that hour, it was astounding the plans I'd made with my end of life. I was like, what am I doing with my And that's again why I'm fascinated by We try and we borrow. I get to borrow people's perspective all the time. But nothing is the same as your BlackBerry bush. Nothing brings change your perspective or your own deep understanding more than your own emotions.

But yeah, but saying that, yes, and I agree with you, But saying that it's I think it's good for our souls to listen to other people and here are other people's perspectives at least. I think that if you're on a journey of self self growth, sometimes it heads you down the wrong track, you know, because you've listened to the room, you're off on a tangent. But because there are a lot of people who just got no, that's my opinion, and too bad, And I'm not listening to anyone else and real fixed mindset, you know, I think we've got to be in that growth mindset stay state, which is, by the way, have you ever heard of James Anderson. So I'll tell you so. So just this is just a quick thing. Carol Dweck wrote the book Mindset, and that was about she sort of coined you a fixed and growth mindset. She went into schools and sort of studied kids and those that had a fixed mindset. I can't do it. I'll never be any good at this. You know, the things don't change blah blah, didn't do anywhere near as well as the kids that had a growth mindset, which was about, oh I could try something different, you know, blah blah blah. So growth mindset definitely changes your life. But there's another guy come after her, called James Anderson, and he says it's not about because if you ask anyone, they say, you are you have you've got a growth mindset? Have you got fixed mindset? And the was like definitely growth or definitely fixed, you know, there's just one or the other. But he's got he's got this continuum. You can find it online. It's just that's a pdf down that's great, and it's a different different environments and situations or a different context, you know, And there's like this continuum of five stages or something like that, and it's really good to do to mark yourself because you realize, shit, I'm a four there, but I'm actually only a two here, you know, and I'm a three here. And what you what you realize is that you think you've got a growth mindset, but once you work along this continuum, you go, oh shit, there's gaps, you know, and it actually then it actually sends you deeper into growth mindset. Doesn't make sense because you got to be Ah, there's gaps, you know. I've got to go. I've got to get going. I don't know how we got onto that. It's a good topic anyway.

But yeah, but saying that, yes, and I agree with you, But saying that it's I think it's good for our souls to listen to other people and here are other people's perspectives at least. I think that if you're on a journey of self self growth, sometimes it heads you down the wrong track, you know, because you've listened to the room, you're off on a tangent. But because there are a lot of people who just got no, that's my opinion, and too bad, And I'm not listening to anyone else and real fixed mindset, you know, I think we've got to be in that growth mindset stay state, which is, by the way, have you ever heard of James Anderson. So I'll tell you so. So just this is just a quick thing. Carol Dweck wrote the book Mindset, and that was about she sort of coined you a fixed and growth mindset. She went into schools and sort of studied kids and those that had a fixed mindset. I can't do it. I'll never be any good at this. You know, the things don't change blah blah, didn't do anywhere near as well as the kids that had a growth mindset, which was about, oh I could try something different, you know, blah blah blah. So growth mindset definitely changes your life. But there's another guy come after her, called James Anderson, and he says it's not about because if you ask anyone, they say, you are you have you've got a growth mindset? Have you got fixed mindset? And the was like definitely growth or definitely fixed, you know, there's just one or the other. But he's got he's got this continuum. You can find it online. It's just that's a pdf down that's great, and it's a different different environments and situations or a different context, you know, And there's like this continuum of five stages or something like that, and it's really good to do to mark yourself because you realize, shit, I'm a four there, but I'm actually only a two here, you know, and I'm a three here. And what you what you realize is that you think you've got a growth mindset, but once you work along this continuum, you go, oh shit, there's gaps, you know, and it actually then it actually sends you deeper into growth mindset. Doesn't make sense because you got to be Ah, there's gaps, you know. I've got to go. I've got to get going. I don't know how we got onto that. It's a good topic anyway.

I love that.

I love that.

I actually love it because because we like we're always evolving and changing, and we think we that we're the version of us that were Like when I get off this call, I'm already different, yea, because we've had a conversation, and that conversation will have made these subtle shifts like the butterfly effect, These subtle shifts in my mind that pop out in all areas of my life at a different times.

I actually love it because because we like we're always evolving and changing, and we think we that we're the version of us that were Like when I get off this call, I'm already different, yea, because we've had a conversation, and that conversation will have made these subtle shifts like the butterfly effect, These subtle shifts in my mind that pop out in all areas of my life at a different times.

Same and you'll do that same thing for me too, do you know? It's why aren't why aren't we all having these great conversations. Why why why are we all going to we meet up with people whatever, whether they're friends or acquaintances or whether whatever. We got this mask on and everyone's going here, you going, oh yeah, yeah, I'm good, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, fucking on this and on that. Why do we even like And I'm not saying we go, I'm not saying we go. Oh I've got a sob back and I'm bloody wingy victim shit. But it's kind of like, why are we talking about the weather nice day to day? Yeah ah, you know, blah blah blah blah blah. Why aren't we in our know time constraints and ship? But why aren't we asking? You know, what's some that excites you? You know when we meet people? What do you working on at the moment? You know, you know that we are we why aren't we and why aren't we answering? Honestly, why do we need to prove ourselves? I've given up on that ship. It's just it's so exhausting trying not to trying to be who you think people should. Actually, I was saw a great thing the other day. Where was it? It was? In think like a monk, you know, Jay Sheddy's book, and he was right at the very very start. Actually, I've said on one of my podcasts recently, the Identity one, and when I don't know whether I can't remember now, he met up with a guide or something and it said, or there's a there's a passage somewhere that says, I am not who I think I am. I am not who you think I am. I am who I think you think I am. Does that make sense?

Same and you'll do that same thing for me too, do you know? It's why aren't why aren't we all having these great conversations. Why why why are we all going to we meet up with people whatever, whether they're friends or acquaintances or whether whatever. We got this mask on and everyone's going here, you going, oh yeah, yeah, I'm good, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, fucking on this and on that. Why do we even like And I'm not saying we go, I'm not saying we go. Oh I've got a sob back and I'm bloody wingy victim shit. But it's kind of like, why are we talking about the weather nice day to day? Yeah ah, you know, blah blah blah blah blah. Why aren't we in our know time constraints and ship? But why aren't we asking? You know, what's some that excites you? You know when we meet people? What do you working on at the moment? You know, you know that we are we why aren't we and why aren't we answering? Honestly, why do we need to prove ourselves? I've given up on that ship. It's just it's so exhausting trying not to trying to be who you think people should. Actually, I was saw a great thing the other day. Where was it? It was? In think like a monk, you know, Jay Sheddy's book, and he was right at the very very start. Actually, I've said on one of my podcasts recently, the Identity one, and when I don't know whether I can't remember now, he met up with a guide or something and it said, or there's a there's a passage somewhere that says, I am not who I think I am. I am not who you think I am. I am who I think you think I am. Does that make sense?

I am?

I am?

Can we say it again? Yes, I'm not who I think I am. I'm not who you think I am. I am who I think you think I am. So what it's saying is that we become the person that we think people think we are because it's satisfies, you know, will we get approve all all that kind of stuff. So we we we continually like what are those transformers? But what you know what, there's a human form of it, you know. We we we change ourselves, you know, constantly, according to who we think that person think that we're talking to thinks we are. And that's that I'm going to say, that's bloody stupid, like what a dumb thing to do, but I probably do it. You probably do it. You know, without really noticing what we're doing it. But if we can be aware that we're actually doing it, it's kind of like, well, you don't need to tell me who I am. I I'm okay with who I am dinner and I don't need to change. How exhausting that we're carrying the big, big backpack of masks around and it's kind of oh, oh there's tiff. For shit, I've got to get out the blue one din or the Tier one. I better get the tear one out, do you know what I mean? And there's tiff hi, Oh shit, there's harps, yeah, fuppen, you know, like like, why do we do that? Can't we just show up as ourselves and imagine the world We're all just bloody ourselves and people accept you? And yeah, there's another problem, isn't it acceptance? See how tangled it is?

Can we say it again? Yes, I'm not who I think I am. I'm not who you think I am. I am who I think you think I am. So what it's saying is that we become the person that we think people think we are because it's satisfies, you know, will we get approve all all that kind of stuff. So we we we continually like what are those transformers? But what you know what, there's a human form of it, you know. We we we change ourselves, you know, constantly, according to who we think that person think that we're talking to thinks we are. And that's that I'm going to say, that's bloody stupid, like what a dumb thing to do, but I probably do it. You probably do it. You know, without really noticing what we're doing it. But if we can be aware that we're actually doing it, it's kind of like, well, you don't need to tell me who I am. I I'm okay with who I am dinner and I don't need to change. How exhausting that we're carrying the big, big backpack of masks around and it's kind of oh, oh there's tiff. For shit, I've got to get out the blue one din or the Tier one. I better get the tear one out, do you know what I mean? And there's tiff hi, Oh shit, there's harps, yeah, fuppen, you know, like like, why do we do that? Can't we just show up as ourselves and imagine the world We're all just bloody ourselves and people accept you? And yeah, there's another problem, isn't it acceptance? See how tangled it is?

Oh, it's everywhere.

Oh, it's everywhere.

I remember years and years ago making that realization harshly. I went back to Tazzy. I remember just almost sitting outside of myself and going, why the fuck do you carry on like this? You don't talk like this? What is this show?

I remember years and years ago making that realization harshly. I went back to Tazzy. I remember just almost sitting outside of myself and going, why the fuck do you carry on like this? You don't talk like this? What is this show?

Tick? What are you doing? Why are you?

Tick? What are you doing? Why are you?

I just noticed the difference in how I was showing up and it was like this performance I was putting on because obviously people are delighted to see you come home and they're like, oh, what are you being up to? Because I already know. And then but I felt myself almost step on the stage with it, and I was like, fuck, does that always happened?

I just noticed the difference in how I was showing up and it was like this performance I was putting on because obviously people are delighted to see you come home and they're like, oh, what are you being up to? Because I already know. And then but I felt myself almost step on the stage with it, and I was like, fuck, does that always happened?

That shit.

That shit.

One thing I've noticed the last couple of weeks of feeling good is and I'm making note of it.

One thing I've noticed the last couple of weeks of feeling good is and I'm making note of it.

And because I think when.

And because I think when.

You're in a rut, it's really hard, and it's very hard. It's impossible to have the same perspective. I'm literally a different person moving around through the world when I'm in a rut and I have poor energy, and even to be sleep having shit night as sleep you're not having a conversation with the same girl in the same mind is when I've had a great sleep and I'm feeling good. So I'm noticing all these little things and just really take a note of the impact and like down to the just being really present. And one of my goals recently was get off that fucking phone, like stop it gets in your hand the hole all the time, like just just falling into the trap of phone addiction. And I was running. I've been running a bit lately, and I was out for a run. And when I run past a runner, like saying hi to them or saying just saying hi to people and smiling, because we don't do that. And when you're on a motorbike and you pass another motorbike, more often than not, you're not at each other. And I guess that when you do that in one instance, because I've been doing that a bit lately, then when you're in other instances where there's so and when I'm running someone else is running, I'm like, oh, we're runners. We'll say, get eight of each other. But a lot of people don't because they're in their head running and they're slogging it out. And I've been trying to just I'm not timing them like I'm timing them, but I'm not running too. I'm just running for enjoyment. So I set my little strata and I go, and then I'm going, well, while you're in this time, just daydream and observe and think and whatever, like, enjoy the moment, just be in it and then run for as long as you feel like running. And so that's been interesting, and I want to I've just been taking notice of because the it makes you feel good, makes you feel good when when I interact with people just for the heck of it, or smile at them and then they look up and smile, and then I smile for the next two blocks.