Hello, and welcome to True Romance.

Hello, and welcome to True Romance.

This is Carolina Varlow and this is Devin Leary.

This is Carolina Varlow and this is Devin Leary.

So recently Devin and I have realized that we need to make friends. This is just something that came out of I don't know. I think it's the loneliness epidemic, as people are calling it, because.

So recently Devin and I have realized that we need to make friends. This is just something that came out of I don't know. I think it's the loneliness epidemic, as people are calling it, because.

It's not just it's not us, it's not me.

It's not just it's not us, it's not me.

I think there's.

I think there's.

Actually a huge epidemic happening and it has nothing to.

Actually a huge epidemic happening and it has nothing to.

Do with us, and I just happened to be a casualty of said epidemic. I never got COVID, but I did get the loneliness epidemic.

Do with us, and I just happened to be a casualty of said epidemic. I never got COVID, but I did get the loneliness epidemic.

Yeah, it's really hard. Wait did you actually never get COVID?

Yeah, it's really hard. Wait did you actually never get COVID?

I never got covid, Babe.

I never got covid, Babe.

Devin did her best to give it to me when I was in New York.

Devin did her best to give it to me when I was in New York.

Oh, she tried her hardest, but I sod it.

Oh, she tried her hardest, but I sod it.

I like constantly feel like I'm going to get it for the second time.

I like constantly feel like I'm going to get it for the second time.

I've only gotten it once. Knock on, damn.

I've only gotten it once. Knock on, damn.

Would also, I kind of think it's embarrassing that I haven't gotten it because it's like, that's how little I socialize.

Would also, I kind of think it's embarrassing that I haven't gotten it because it's like, that's how little I socialize.

Do you know what I mean?

Do you know what I mean?

To be part of the loneliness ecademic.

To be part of the loneliness ecademic.

I'm like, I remember when the pandemic started and I had you know, as the listeners from day one. Remember I had just gotten out of a relationship and I'd really taken on my you know, ex's friends as my friends as.

I'm like, I remember when the pandemic started and I had you know, as the listeners from day one. Remember I had just gotten out of a relationship and I'd really taken on my you know, ex's friends as my friends as.

Were wont to do.

Were wont to do.

And when we broke up, I was like, great, I can do what I love to do. We just hang out alone. And so that has kind of been the last four years for me, hanging out all alone. And I think it's because when I was working, I would always be around people and sometimes a lot of people, not to brag, and so I sort of took that in as my social life, and then when I wasn't working, I would just be alone and seeing people always felt like too stimulating for me. And I think it's partially like my trauma brain. Like I when journaling recently, I realized like, oh, I just try to hide from the world mm hmm. But yeah, then I wake up sometimes where I, you know, go to bed after doing nothing on a Saturday night, and I'm like, this is crazy.

And when we broke up, I was like, great, I can do what I love to do. We just hang out alone. And so that has kind of been the last four years for me, hanging out all alone. And I think it's because when I was working, I would always be around people and sometimes a lot of people, not to brag, and so I sort of took that in as my social life, and then when I wasn't working, I would just be alone and seeing people always felt like too stimulating for me. And I think it's partially like my trauma brain. Like I when journaling recently, I realized like, oh, I just try to hide from the world mm hmm. But yeah, then I wake up sometimes where I, you know, go to bed after doing nothing on a Saturday night, and I'm like, this is crazy.

I think I relate to that. But I also have been realizing I don't really have a like a group, A couple of different groups of friends that I've had that I've hung out with a lot in New York have dissipated because people are older and like have more complicated lives and people aren't just like, hey, what's everyone doing on Friday?

I think I relate to that. But I also have been realizing I don't really have a like a group, A couple of different groups of friends that I've had that I've hung out with a lot in New York have dissipated because people are older and like have more complicated lives and people aren't just like, hey, what's everyone doing on Friday?

What's everyone doing on Saturday? What's everyone doing? You know?

What's everyone doing on Saturday? What's everyone doing? You know?

Right?

Right?

And so there's that and also something I've realized, First of all, attachment wounds show up in friendships as well as romantic relationships. So like a lot of times if someone so the biggest thing I struggle with is if someone like doesn't reach out to me or like doesn't or if there's like the slightest because another thing I've realized is I am like hyper vigilant to emotional shifts from childhood where like I had to like monitor my parents' emotions. So if there's like the slightest shift in like the amount someone's texting me or like what someone's responding to me, I'm I'm like, Okay, I know something's different, and like I need to figure it out. And it actually leads leads me to Lindsey esque behavior where I'll be like.

And so there's that and also something I've realized, First of all, attachment wounds show up in friendships as well as romantic relationships. So like a lot of times if someone so the biggest thing I struggle with is if someone like doesn't reach out to me or like doesn't or if there's like the slightest because another thing I've realized is I am like hyper vigilant to emotional shifts from childhood where like I had to like monitor my parents' emotions. So if there's like the slightest shift in like the amount someone's texting me or like what someone's responding to me, I'm I'm like, Okay, I know something's different, and like I need to figure it out. And it actually leads leads me to Lindsey esque behavior where I'll be like.

What, so, what's going on?

What, so, what's going on?

So we're in a conflict and it's like really not necessary, but it also is like that's okay if there's like a slight shift. Like that's what I am coming to realize is like it's okay if there's a slight shift. It's okay if people like are distancing a little bit, or it's okay if people don't have as much time. Another thing that's hard for me is realizing that like I'm closer to some people like some people were.

So we're in a conflict and it's like really not necessary, but it also is like that's okay if there's like a slight shift. Like that's what I am coming to realize is like it's okay if there's a slight shift. It's okay if people like are distancing a little bit, or it's okay if people don't have as much time. Another thing that's hard for me is realizing that like I'm closer to some people like some people were.

It's like I have.

It's like I have.

Certain friends that I'm like, oh, I'm like not one of your best friends, but you're one of.

Certain friends that I'm like, oh, I'm like not one of your best friends, but you're one of.

Mine, right, you know what I mean? And that is like.

Mine, right, you know what I mean? And that is like.

Another complicated thing where it's like, of course that's totally fine and that like makes sense, but it does like hurt my feelings sometimes where I'm like, oh, yeah, like you have like your main friends and then you have like I have a lot of people's like singular friend outside the group that they're in. So I often feel like I'm the one who like reaches out or I'm the one who makes plans and I'm the one who calls them, but what they necessarily call me, But all of this stuff, I'm just like, is that also just part of my weird like attachment narrative where I'm like, am I important enough?

Another complicated thing where it's like, of course that's totally fine and that like makes sense, but it does like hurt my feelings sometimes where I'm like, oh, yeah, like you have like your main friends and then you have like I have a lot of people's like singular friend outside the group that they're in. So I often feel like I'm the one who like reaches out or I'm the one who makes plans and I'm the one who calls them, but what they necessarily call me, But all of this stuff, I'm just like, is that also just part of my weird like attachment narrative where I'm like, am I important enough?

Do I matter enough? And I think the.

Do I matter enough? And I think the.

Ultimate solution is I'm just trying to make more friends, right, It's like hard, like I'm trying to like like I almost canceled on socializing with this person, but then I thought about it like a date type thing, like I'm like, well, I want to be friends with this person, so like if I cancel, they're gonna like think, I don't know, I'm like I have to like build this connection somehow.

Ultimate solution is I'm just trying to make more friends, right, It's like hard, like I'm trying to like like I almost canceled on socializing with this person, but then I thought about it like a date type thing, like I'm like, well, I want to be friends with this person, so like if I cancel, they're gonna like think, I don't know, I'm like I have to like build this connection somehow.

And then I ended up hanging out with them and it was really fun.

And then I ended up hanging out with them and it was really fun.

But it's like you, yeah, you have to like put effort in and like try to make friend dates with people.

But it's like you, yeah, you have to like put effort in and like try to make friend dates with people.

It's so true and it's humbling because I think we want to just immediately be comfortable with someone and have the comfort to be like come over watch TV and let's not talk and just like be on our phones and like laugh at whatever we're watching, and that's like my dream hang and instead we have to get to know someone and it just like dating. You're like, I hate this part because we don't know each other's rhythms yet, we don't have inside jokes yet. Yeah, you know, some of what we would do in New York is just hang out at someone's apartment and obviously and like not necessarily quote unquote do something except go out to dinner. And as people get married and have families, that becomes less and less frequent. But yeah, I totally hear you. I it's so interesting, Like a lot of my I had a great group of friends in high school. I always think like, if my high school self saw me now, she would be aghast because I was always going out, always hanging out with someone, always hooking up with someone. And now my high school friends are still friends, and I was the one who lost touch. I was the one who, like in college went crazy and like had a hard time keeping in touch with them because we're all over the country and now that we're in LA, you know, two of them are married, and sometimes they'll all hang out without me, and I'll hear it from someone else like oh, yeah, we all had to sleep over the other night, and you know this was said, and I'll be like, wait, I clearly wasn't invited to that, And it's just this weird feeling where it's my fault, you know, because they made an effort for the past fifteen years to stay in touch. And I'm the one, you know who kind of took them for granted without intending to, and I'm paying the consequences, you know. And I think a part of it is because I moved around a lot as a kid, you know, Like I lived seven years in Berkeley, seven years in Brooklyn, seven years in LA And I think because of that, I didn't have the experience of like learning how to come like keep up with long term friendships, especially ones that were long distance, and I kind of was just like new place, new place to make friends. And I think, actually, you're my longest friendship in that like we've been able to stay in touch consistently and like work together and do all this stuff long distance and even without going to specifics, Like we've faced challenges that way because it's hard, like not seeing someone every other day and having that line of communication, and it's easier for things to like kind of venture into confusion or miscommunication when you don't have that face to face with someone. So I think like long term friendships, just like long term relationships are hard, you know, and it requires effort, and like you have to make a decision, like you were saying, not canceling on that person to like make that effort. M I think that's something that like I love kind of I don't know, like the addict side of me loves just tuning out, Like when I'm not working, I'm like turn on Bravo just like tune out of the world, and like a friendship requires you to be present, and I think I struggle with that a lot of the time. So it's something I want to change about myself. I want to meet people. I have such a like high bar where I want to meet like the funniest people ever, because I feel like those are my favorite kind of people to be around. And it's like I just have to make friends and like not assume that like we're not going to get along or not going to be close immediately.

It's so true and it's humbling because I think we want to just immediately be comfortable with someone and have the comfort to be like come over watch TV and let's not talk and just like be on our phones and like laugh at whatever we're watching, and that's like my dream hang and instead we have to get to know someone and it just like dating. You're like, I hate this part because we don't know each other's rhythms yet, we don't have inside jokes yet. Yeah, you know, some of what we would do in New York is just hang out at someone's apartment and obviously and like not necessarily quote unquote do something except go out to dinner. And as people get married and have families, that becomes less and less frequent. But yeah, I totally hear you. I it's so interesting, Like a lot of my I had a great group of friends in high school. I always think like, if my high school self saw me now, she would be aghast because I was always going out, always hanging out with someone, always hooking up with someone. And now my high school friends are still friends, and I was the one who lost touch. I was the one who, like in college went crazy and like had a hard time keeping in touch with them because we're all over the country and now that we're in LA, you know, two of them are married, and sometimes they'll all hang out without me, and I'll hear it from someone else like oh, yeah, we all had to sleep over the other night, and you know this was said, and I'll be like, wait, I clearly wasn't invited to that, And it's just this weird feeling where it's my fault, you know, because they made an effort for the past fifteen years to stay in touch. And I'm the one, you know who kind of took them for granted without intending to, and I'm paying the consequences, you know. And I think a part of it is because I moved around a lot as a kid, you know, Like I lived seven years in Berkeley, seven years in Brooklyn, seven years in LA And I think because of that, I didn't have the experience of like learning how to come like keep up with long term friendships, especially ones that were long distance, and I kind of was just like new place, new place to make friends. And I think, actually, you're my longest friendship in that like we've been able to stay in touch consistently and like work together and do all this stuff long distance and even without going to specifics, Like we've faced challenges that way because it's hard, like not seeing someone every other day and having that line of communication, and it's easier for things to like kind of venture into confusion or miscommunication when you don't have that face to face with someone. So I think like long term friendships, just like long term relationships are hard, you know, and it requires effort, and like you have to make a decision, like you were saying, not canceling on that person to like make that effort. M I think that's something that like I love kind of I don't know, like the addict side of me loves just tuning out, Like when I'm not working, I'm like turn on Bravo just like tune out of the world, and like a friendship requires you to be present, and I think I struggle with that a lot of the time. So it's something I want to change about myself. I want to meet people. I have such a like high bar where I want to meet like the funniest people ever, because I feel like those are my favorite kind of people to be around. And it's like I just have to make friends and like not assume that like we're not going to get along or not going to be close immediately.

Yeah, I think like all I care about a friendship is actually, as demonstrated by the show Summer House, is like someone who can like sit in a bed with me and be like, Okay, what just happened. Like there's a moment rewatching Summerhouse, which, by the way, I'm so addicted. I actually flew across the country to visit my friend for her birthday we were like getting ready and I was like ready before her for dinner, and I like snuck into my room so I could watch more Summerhouse. But there's like a moment where there's like a party going on and Amanda fines Paige and she's like, wait, I have so many things to talk to you about. In pages like oh my god, I have so many things to talk to you about, And they like go in the bedroom to like rehash all the like drama of the party. Like that's like what I'm really looking for in a friend. But speaking of should we do Summer House? First, the Vice.

Yeah, I think like all I care about a friendship is actually, as demonstrated by the show Summer House, is like someone who can like sit in a bed with me and be like, Okay, what just happened. Like there's a moment rewatching Summerhouse, which, by the way, I'm so addicted. I actually flew across the country to visit my friend for her birthday we were like getting ready and I was like ready before her for dinner, and I like snuck into my room so I could watch more Summerhouse. But there's like a moment where there's like a party going on and Amanda fines Paige and she's like, wait, I have so many things to talk to you about. In pages like oh my god, I have so many things to talk to you about, And they like go in the bedroom to like rehash all the like drama of the party. Like that's like what I'm really looking for in a friend. But speaking of should we do Summer House? First, the Vice.

The Valley, I'll just touch on briefly. It's kind of we're we're just watching the train accident of all of a slow motion car accident of all of these relationships that are going to become undone. First off, Jesse and Michelle. Michelle obviously is planning to get out of this marriage, Like and Jesse, it's becoming clear and clear that she might have a side piece. And it's so funny because Jesse is such a piece of shit and so you are rooting for Michelle, but it's just so clear how much she does not like him. So that's becoming clear and clear. The guys meaning Jason and Jack's confront Luke and they're like, Kristin is a liar, Like she's lying about this stuff and basically you're the one paying the price for it, and you have to understand that, you know, she is the person like leading the drama this way. So Luke confronts Kristin, and it's so funny because Kristen fights in a certain way where she's like, okay, got it, all right, let's stop talking about it.

The Valley, I'll just touch on briefly. It's kind of we're we're just watching the train accident of all of a slow motion car accident of all of these relationships that are going to become undone. First off, Jesse and Michelle. Michelle obviously is planning to get out of this marriage, Like and Jesse, it's becoming clear and clear that she might have a side piece. And it's so funny because Jesse is such a piece of shit and so you are rooting for Michelle, but it's just so clear how much she does not like him. So that's becoming clear and clear. The guys meaning Jason and Jack's confront Luke and they're like, Kristin is a liar, Like she's lying about this stuff and basically you're the one paying the price for it, and you have to understand that, you know, she is the person like leading the drama this way. So Luke confronts Kristin, and it's so funny because Kristen fights in a certain way where she's like, okay, got it, all right, let's stop talking about it.

Okay, Oh my god that wait, I did see this episode because I forgot about that. That was so amazing. She's like okay, okay, well, and he's basically like, so you lied, because technically lying is saying something that wasn't the truth and what I told you was not what you said. And she's like, got it, got it. So we're good, and I'm like that. Those are the moments where I'm like, okay, so you are like so fucking unstable, it's beyond It's like you could be in an asylum, like no offense, you could be in an asylum.

Okay, Oh my god that wait, I did see this episode because I forgot about that. That was so amazing. She's like okay, okay, well, and he's basically like, so you lied, because technically lying is saying something that wasn't the truth and what I told you was not what you said. And she's like, got it, got it. So we're good, and I'm like that. Those are the moments where I'm like, okay, so you are like so fucking unstable, it's beyond It's like you could be in an asylum, like no offense, you could be in an asylum.

No, it's true, and you wouldn't.

No, it's true, and you wouldn't.

Last a second in the asylum where they raised me but you also could be in an asylum.

Last a second in the asylum where they raised me but you also could be in an asylum.

I love the memes with that Taylor swift lyric, mainly the Bravo memes showing like the alley of back behind Vander Pomp and stuff.

I love the memes with that Taylor swift lyric, mainly the Bravo memes showing like the alley of back behind Vander Pomp and stuff.

Yeah, it's brilliant.

Yeah, it's brilliant.

Yeah, and then we get uh huh and then.

Yeah, and then we get uh huh and then.

Me adding a lot to the conversation.

Me adding a lot to the conversation.

Yeah, yes, that's what you get when you talk about memes. I also want to touch on Jackson Brittany. So Jacks is just and let me say this too, I have acted like Jacks before. Jax acts like he's the only person in his relationship who's stressed out and like overwhelmed, and it's clear that Brittany does absolutely everything for him, and he is like.

Yeah, yes, that's what you get when you talk about memes. I also want to touch on Jackson Brittany. So Jacks is just and let me say this too, I have acted like Jacks before. Jax acts like he's the only person in his relationship who's stressed out and like overwhelmed, and it's clear that Brittany does absolutely everything for him, and he is like.

I can't handle this.

I can't handle this.

I can't handle paying a mortgage and raising a family and opening my bar and you know, et cetera, et cetera. And she is just calmly listening to him. So Brittany thinks they're going to try for another kid, and Jax is basically like, I don't want to take away attention that you know, Cruse might need, because it's clear that Cruz is struggling and with verbal and he's not currently non verbal and Brittany goes, I live for my kid and Jack is like, you're drunk, basically, And I was, as I was telling Devin before we start recording this episode, like it's clear that Brittany may have a drinking problem. And not that I like to blame addictions on outside people, but I do think it's Jack's fault. Like I do think she just has to like numb herself to being married to Jack's because he seems so annoying. But yeah, I just can't with how much Jax thinks that he has like the hardest life in the world, and then he also has the goal to be like because she goes, you don't do anything, and then he's like wow that wow, that really hurts and she's like, no, I didn't mean that, Like you do do stuff, and he was like, you don't like the house that I got. You don't like the house that we lived in, and then she goes, actually we both put the same amount down for the house, and he leaves the room. It's like he has to be this male martyr and when she like checks him in the slightest he can't handle it and he leaves for Ah, It's so ridiculous.

I can't handle paying a mortgage and raising a family and opening my bar and you know, et cetera, et cetera. And she is just calmly listening to him. So Brittany thinks they're going to try for another kid, and Jax is basically like, I don't want to take away attention that you know, Cruse might need, because it's clear that Cruz is struggling and with verbal and he's not currently non verbal and Brittany goes, I live for my kid and Jack is like, you're drunk, basically, And I was, as I was telling Devin before we start recording this episode, like it's clear that Brittany may have a drinking problem. And not that I like to blame addictions on outside people, but I do think it's Jack's fault. Like I do think she just has to like numb herself to being married to Jack's because he seems so annoying. But yeah, I just can't with how much Jax thinks that he has like the hardest life in the world, and then he also has the goal to be like because she goes, you don't do anything, and then he's like wow that wow, that really hurts and she's like, no, I didn't mean that, Like you do do stuff, and he was like, you don't like the house that I got. You don't like the house that we lived in, and then she goes, actually we both put the same amount down for the house, and he leaves the room. It's like he has to be this male martyr and when she like checks him in the slightest he can't handle it and he leaves for Ah, It's so ridiculous.

And it's just like.

And it's just like.

It's toxic masculinity, like I need you need to act like I'm taking care of you or else I can't handle it. Yeah, And it's like they hinted the fact that she or she basically says that at one point she was supporting the family, and I think that and then that Jacks was weird about it, and I just think that men can't handle that totally.

It's toxic masculinity, like I need you need to act like I'm taking care of you or else I can't handle it. Yeah, And it's like they hinted the fact that she or she basically says that at one point she was supporting the family, and I think that and then that Jacks was weird about it, and I just think that men can't handle that totally.

And it harkens back.

And it harkens back.

To previous episodes of Vanner Pump when he would talk about like basically paying for her implants and like throw it in her face. And finally on one episode she was like, I paid you back, and he's like fine, God, like acting like an absolute child.

To previous episodes of Vanner Pump when he would talk about like basically paying for her implants and like throw it in her face. And finally on one episode she was like, I paid you back, and he's like fine, God, like acting like an absolute child.

I know, and then like also no offense, but like the fact that he even made her pay him back.

I know, and then like also no offense, but like the fact that he even made her pay him back.

No, it's it's insane. It's you know what I mean, insane.

No, it's it's insane. It's you know what I mean, insane.

So yeah, we're basically gonna watch them split up, which I'm it's a privilege to watch these television shows, Like I am grateful at their film because I do think we get a lot out of watching relationships period to see what is healthy and what isn't. And most of these are not speaking of unhealthy relationships. Though, let's talk a little bit about the.

So yeah, we're basically gonna watch them split up, which I'm it's a privilege to watch these television shows, Like I am grateful at their film because I do think we get a lot out of watching relationships period to see what is healthy and what isn't. And most of these are not speaking of unhealthy relationships. Though, let's talk a little bit about the.

Latest episode of Summer House was truly like a lesson in relationships. There's two different well there's three different relationship dynamics that play. But I'm so sick of like the page Craig like, she won't move to Charleston. I think it's like honestly, and you know what I hate, Like I went back and watched Obviously I'm going back and watching all the episodes, and like there was a thing where Craig was like, oh, well, she said, when we have kids, will obviously live in Charleston.

Latest episode of Summer House was truly like a lesson in relationships. There's two different well there's three different relationship dynamics that play. But I'm so sick of like the page Craig like, she won't move to Charleston. I think it's like honestly, and you know what I hate, Like I went back and watched Obviously I'm going back and watching all the episodes, and like there was a thing where Craig was like, oh, well, she said, when we have kids, will obviously live in Charleston.

It's like, no, you won't. Her family lives in New York.

It's like, no, you won't. Her family lives in New York.

No one who lived no offense, no one who lives in New York would want to raise their kids in the South.

No one who lived no offense, no one who lives in New York would want to raise their kids in the South.

Why would you ever want to do that?

Why would you ever want to do that?

Like, I just can't imagine that the school districts in Charleston are going to be like progressive and like, I don't know, it's not scary, it's scary, like who would want to raise their kids there?

Like, I just can't imagine that the school districts in Charleston are going to be like progressive and like, I don't know, it's not scary, it's scary, like who would want to raise their kids there?

And she's not going to raise their kids there? And I'm just like okay.

And she's not going to raise their kids there? And I'm just like okay.

So and in one of the old episodes, he says like, well, I would move to New York for you because I love you more than I love Charleston. It's like, okay, so just move to New York, like it's better. I'm sorry, it's better. Just move there, and so that I just can't. And then we have the dynamic between Sierra and West, which I will say this like going back and watching the episodes with Siarra and Austin drama, Like Sierra is so calm and collected, and then when she gets digmatized, as the people would say, she does really lose it, like she does lose the thread, like she like threw a glass, she threw like a champagne glass at Danielle over Austin.

So and in one of the old episodes, he says like, well, I would move to New York for you because I love you more than I love Charleston. It's like, okay, so just move to New York, like it's better. I'm sorry, it's better. Just move there, and so that I just can't. And then we have the dynamic between Sierra and West, which I will say this like going back and watching the episodes with Siarra and Austin drama, Like Sierra is so calm and collected, and then when she gets digmatized, as the people would say, she does really lose it, like she does lose the thread, like she like threw a glass, she threw like a champagne glass at Danielle over Austin.

Basically, yeah, I also am I am.

Basically, yeah, I also am I am.

On West's side in this one where I don't think it's drama that he's like talking to other girls when he's just been talking to Sierra for a little while and they've like barely even just made out.

On West's side in this one where I don't think it's drama that he's like talking to other girls when he's just been talking to Sierra for a little while and they've like barely even just made out.

So I also am like, does she like him?

So I also am like, does she like him?

I know, I can't even tell.

I know, I can't even tell.

I can't tell.

I can't tell.

I think she likes the attention and like kind of having like someone to kiss and stuff. But at one point he's like, oh, my girlfriend's an alien when she's just up as an alien and she's like, did.

I think she likes the attention and like kind of having like someone to kiss and stuff. But at one point he's like, oh, my girlfriend's an alien when she's just up as an alien and she's like, did.

You just call me your girlfriend? Like, yeah, I don't know.

You just call me your girlfriend? Like, yeah, I don't know.

There's something about her that is clearly pushing him away. And it's so funny to me because he's to me clearly like so much hotter and like cooler and funnier than Austin. And oh my god, yet when he asked her out, she cried, like when she found out he liked her, she cried like, I was like, how can you like this man that much?

There's something about her that is clearly pushing him away. And it's so funny to me because he's to me clearly like so much hotter and like cooler and funnier than Austin. And oh my god, yet when he asked her out, she cried, like when she found out he liked her, she cried like, I was like, how can you like this man that much?

It's so strange to me.

It's so strange to me.

She's also like always talking about how Austin was funny, and he's like never even cracked a joke, like he like can't He's not funny at all.

She's also like always talking about how Austin was funny, and he's like never even cracked a joke, like he like can't He's not funny at all.

It's very weird. So I am on west Side and I feel like, I don't know. I just I'm not surprised that they didn't last, but I'm excited to hear like because it looks like she visited his family in Montana, so I'm excited to hear more at the reunion. I'm just very excited for this reunion in general.

It's very weird. So I am on west Side and I feel like, I don't know. I just I'm not surprised that they didn't last, but I'm excited to hear like because it looks like she visited his family in Montana, so I'm excited to hear more at the reunion. I'm just very excited for this reunion in general.

Oh my god, the reunion is going to be like when did you say the seating map?

Oh my god, the reunion is going to be like when did you say the seating map?

Lindsay and Carl.

Lindsay and Carl.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Ye're very excited. So I'm so curious what you think. So in the last episode prior to this week's, Carl visits his parents, his mom and his stepdad, and both of them basically suggest like your relationship is toxic, and his stepdad, who's a pastor, is like, I wouldn't marry you and Lindsay. Lindsay commented under a picture of said conversation on Instagram and said he should be a farmer, meaning like he's planting seeds for their breakup here. Then in this week's episode, Lindsay down with Carl and she's like, so, how is it seeing your parents? Carl is such a little bit about this, and it's like it was good, I mean, you know, I mean it was hard because, like, you know, they're obviously, you know, want we are concerned. And he's not saying anything more than that, and she's like, wait what wait, so what happened?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Ye're very excited. So I'm so curious what you think. So in the last episode prior to this week's, Carl visits his parents, his mom and his stepdad, and both of them basically suggest like your relationship is toxic, and his stepdad, who's a pastor, is like, I wouldn't marry you and Lindsay. Lindsay commented under a picture of said conversation on Instagram and said he should be a farmer, meaning like he's planting seeds for their breakup here. Then in this week's episode, Lindsay down with Carl and she's like, so, how is it seeing your parents? Carl is such a little bit about this, and it's like it was good, I mean, you know, I mean it was hard because, like, you know, they're obviously, you know, want we are concerned. And he's not saying anything more than that, and she's like, wait what wait, so what happened?

What was said?

What was said?

And he's like, no, you know, they love you, they love you. They're just like a little bit, you know, they want us to be happy. And he keeps on hinting at a conversation that was had, and she keeps on being like, wait, so if they're concerned, that like really worries me, and he's basically both what I think is like planting seeds of you know, insecurity and at the same time trying to console her mm hmm, which is very weird to me, And then cut to him telling Amanda and Kyle like my stepdad said that he wouldn't marry us, and both Amanda and Kyle are like, wait, so did you tell lindsay that? And he's like no, because I didn't want to upset her.

And he's like, no, you know, they love you, they love you. They're just like a little bit, you know, they want us to be happy. And he keeps on hinting at a conversation that was had, and she keeps on being like, wait, so if they're concerned, that like really worries me, and he's basically both what I think is like planting seeds of you know, insecurity and at the same time trying to console her mm hmm, which is very weird to me, And then cut to him telling Amanda and Kyle like my stepdad said that he wouldn't marry us, and both Amanda and Kyle are like, wait, so did you tell lindsay that? And he's like no, because I didn't want to upset her.

Let me just say one thing which I was obsessed with, which was Carl was talking just to Kyle, and Amanda came in and was like, I'm looking for my shoes.

Let me just say one thing which I was obsessed with, which was Carl was talking just to Kyle, and Amanda came in and was like, I'm looking for my shoes.

Has anyone seen my shoes?

Has anyone seen my shoes?

But clearly just walking around so slowly because she wanted to hear what they were talking about. And then eventually she just sits on the bed and is like okay, like I'm part of the conversation now, and Carl even was like okay, so I guess you're just staying. Like I just was obsessed with it because that's what I feel like I would do, like creeping through the background being like, oh, so, what are you guys talking about like this sounds interesting, Like okay. The only thing I've related to more is when Paige was in the episode of Southern Charm where Olivia and Austin were arguing and she was like, sh be quiet because she.

But clearly just walking around so slowly because she wanted to hear what they were talking about. And then eventually she just sits on the bed and is like okay, like I'm part of the conversation now, and Carl even was like okay, so I guess you're just staying. Like I just was obsessed with it because that's what I feel like I would do, like creeping through the background being like, oh, so, what are you guys talking about like this sounds interesting, Like okay. The only thing I've related to more is when Paige was in the episode of Southern Charm where Olivia and Austin were arguing and she was like, sh be quiet because she.

Wanted to be able to hear what they were saying. Okay, sorry, go on.

Wanted to be able to hear what they were saying. Okay, sorry, go on.

So this is the part where I feel for Lindsay. Carl sits down next to her at dinner and she's like, are you okay?

So this is the part where I feel for Lindsay. Carl sits down next to her at dinner and she's like, are you okay?

What's wrong? And he's like nothing, we should just talk later. Oh, and You're.

What's wrong? And he's like nothing, we should just talk later. Oh, and You're.

Like that's a psychotic move.

Like that's a psychotic move.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My partner who I was gonna marry, was like, we should talk later. I would like, She's like, wait, what what's going on? Well, I can't, like now, I'm not going to be able to like sit and relax, and so basically he takes her into the living room. Everyone at dinner is silent because the couple a couple just got up and walked away without saying anything, which I also love, Like, I nosy has such a negative connotation, but I am nosy.

My partner who I was gonna marry, was like, we should talk later. I would like, She's like, wait, what what's going on? Well, I can't, like now, I'm not going to be able to like sit and relax, and so basically he takes her into the living room. Everyone at dinner is silent because the couple a couple just got up and walked away without saying anything, which I also love, Like, I nosy has such a negative connotation, but I am nosy.

I just want to know what's going on.

I just want to know what's going on.

Right, and that's normal and that's human science, human supposed to do.

Right, and that's normal and that's human science, human supposed to do.

Yeah, I think that's completely fine.

Yeah, I think that's completely fine.

And so like when a couple is fighting around me, I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. I'm just like I can't get enough of it. And so Lindsey and Carl start talking in the living room, and it is just so clear that these people do not belong together in their compass. And I would blame it all on Carl, but Lindsay clearly is someone who it's just hard to have an argument or conversation with. Like Carl's like, so my stepdad basically told us that he wouldn't marry us. And she's like, oh, that's a really big deal. Why didn't you say that when we talked prior, Like she keeps something like we already had this conversation.

And so like when a couple is fighting around me, I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. I'm just like I can't get enough of it. And so Lindsey and Carl start talking in the living room, and it is just so clear that these people do not belong together in their compass. And I would blame it all on Carl, but Lindsay clearly is someone who it's just hard to have an argument or conversation with. Like Carl's like, so my stepdad basically told us that he wouldn't marry us. And she's like, oh, that's a really big deal. Why didn't you say that when we talked prior, Like she keeps something like we already had this conversation.

I know.

I know.

I think she like she starts out like okay, like she starts out handling it a little bit well, but it goes south.

I think she like she starts out like okay, like she starts out handling it a little bit well, but it goes south.

And then he's like, well, I didn't try to get you stressed out or I didn't try to get you heated, and she's like, I'm not heated, yeah, and he's like, I don't know. It's just very clear that you know they're And at the same time, Carl acts like such a victim, Like he's like, ah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, what I'm trying to say is they love you.

And then he's like, well, I didn't try to get you stressed out or I didn't try to get you heated, and she's like, I'm not heated, yeah, and he's like, I don't know. It's just very clear that you know they're And at the same time, Carl acts like such a victim, Like he's like, ah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, what I'm trying to say is they love you.

Like he's just being a little bit of a baby.

Like he's just being a little bit of a baby.

And you can kind of see how the relationship dynamic is where it's like, oh, she is like antagonistic, but he also plays the victim, yes, and he likes that and he likes that yeah, and he likes like defending her to people. And then I'm excited for next week's episode because she does such a girlfriend move where.

And you can kind of see how the relationship dynamic is where it's like, oh, she is like antagonistic, but he also plays the victim, yes, and he likes that and he likes that yeah, and he likes like defending her to people. And then I'm excited for next week's episode because she does such a girlfriend move where.

She's like thanks a lot, I'm gonna go cry now, That's what I'm saying.

She's like thanks a lot, I'm gonna go cry now, That's what I'm saying.

Where it's like she's iconic, Like I know she's so I think she has like a personality disorder and like a lot of stuff going on, but at the same time, she's truly iconic and like I actually love that and couldn't love watching her more.

Where it's like she's iconic, Like I know she's so I think she has like a personality disorder and like a lot of stuff going on, but at the same time, she's truly iconic and like I actually love that and couldn't love watching her more.

Oh, which brings me to one of the other things that I'm like, I cannot believe she's doing this right now. She confronts her future mother in law, Carl's mother at her bridal shower.

Oh, which brings me to one of the other things that I'm like, I cannot believe she's doing this right now. She confronts her future mother in law, Carl's mother at her bridal shower.

By the way, side, note, let me just say I think that Lindsay looks fucking stunned.

By the way, side, note, let me just say I think that Lindsay looks fucking stunned.

She's gorgeous this.

She's gorgeous this.

Season, and that is a great benefit for her. Unfortunately, now she looks like she's gone too far with them. Yeah I'm not anti Ozempic, but she's gone too far. And but in this, like this around her wedding, I was like, oh my god, like and she posted a picture which I was like, of the wedding shower, and I was like, wow, it's kind of drama, like post your wedding shower pictures when you like aren't getting married. But then I was like, actually, she looks fucking amazing and she should post that. Yeah, okay, sorry, so go on.

Season, and that is a great benefit for her. Unfortunately, now she looks like she's gone too far with them. Yeah I'm not anti Ozempic, but she's gone too far. And but in this, like this around her wedding, I was like, oh my god, like and she posted a picture which I was like, of the wedding shower, and I was like, wow, it's kind of drama, like post your wedding shower pictures when you like aren't getting married. But then I was like, actually, she looks fucking amazing and she should post that. Yeah, okay, sorry, so go on.

Basically after she hears this is prior to their second conversation, she just hears from Carl that his parents were concerned. She sees his mother at her bridal shower and she's like, hey, I heard you had some concerns, and his mother looks so nervous, Like she looks nervous, she looks on the spot. She's like, oh, well, yeah, we just you know, we just want you guys to be happy. And she's like, yeah, I don't know, but I when she tells when Lizzie tells Page and Amanda that she confronted Carl's mom, Amanda's like, oh my god, like I would never and I'm like, I don't think I could ever like confront an old lady and be like, yeah, what shit were you saying about me?

Basically after she hears this is prior to their second conversation, she just hears from Carl that his parents were concerned. She sees his mother at her bridal shower and she's like, hey, I heard you had some concerns, and his mother looks so nervous, Like she looks nervous, she looks on the spot. She's like, oh, well, yeah, we just you know, we just want you guys to be happy. And she's like, yeah, I don't know, but I when she tells when Lizzie tells Page and Amanda that she confronted Carl's mom, Amanda's like, oh my god, like I would never and I'm like, I don't think I could ever like confront an old lady and be like, yeah, what shit were you saying about me?

And then she's like in the confessional being like, I mean I've known Sharon as long as I've known Carl. It's like right, and Sharon is not in europeer at all whatsoever. She's also like talking to her stepmom and like Sharon is like trying to get it on the drama. Like I feel like Sharon was like hamming it up a little bit. She's like, oh, what are you guys talking about? And then Lindsay's like, we're just having mommy daughter time like and I'm like, this is crazy, but that was kind of amazing.

And then she's like in the confessional being like, I mean I've known Sharon as long as I've known Carl. It's like right, and Sharon is not in europeer at all whatsoever. She's also like talking to her stepmom and like Sharon is like trying to get it on the drama. Like I feel like Sharon was like hamming it up a little bit. She's like, oh, what are you guys talking about? And then Lindsay's like, we're just having mommy daughter time like and I'm like, this is crazy, but that was kind of amazing.

So, like going back to the rewatch, like I think in.

So, like going back to the rewatch, like I think in.

Season seven, Lindsay does display extremely unhealthy reallyationship dynamics that could be considered emotional abuse. For example, basically like convincing Carl that he should not work at Lover Boy because they like take him for granted. But at the same time, it's like, is Carl presenting it that she's manipulating him?

Season seven, Lindsay does display extremely unhealthy reallyationship dynamics that could be considered emotional abuse. For example, basically like convincing Carl that he should not work at Lover Boy because they like take him for granted. But at the same time, it's like, is Carl presenting it that she's manipulating him?

That way. I don't know, like right the.

That way. I don't know, like right the.

Picture presented and see that season seven is like Lindsay is the reason Carl stops working at lover Boy, and now in season eight, she's like upset because he doesn't have a job, and like it's kind of like, well what and but there is like there's one big fight that just happened in season seven. There's like lead up, lead up, lead up. They moved in together. People are like, oh, they're moving too fast.

Picture presented and see that season seven is like Lindsay is the reason Carl stops working at lover Boy, and now in season eight, she's like upset because he doesn't have a job, and like it's kind of like, well what and but there is like there's one big fight that just happened in season seven. There's like lead up, lead up, lead up. They moved in together. People are like, oh, they're moving too fast.

Danielle.

Danielle.

By the way, in season seven, I'm like, Okay, the first time I watched it, I was on Danielle's side. The second time I'm watching it, I'm like, Danielle, you are in love with Lindsay and how serious? Like she's like, well, my boyfriend. She's basically like, will you guys hang out all the time? And my boyfriend and I never hang out, so like what's going on with you guys?

By the way, in season seven, I'm like, Okay, the first time I watched it, I was on Danielle's side. The second time I'm watching it, I'm like, Danielle, you are in love with Lindsay and how serious? Like she's like, well, my boyfriend. She's basically like, will you guys hang out all the time? And my boyfriend and I never hang out, so like what's going on with you guys?

And they're like, we like to hang out.

And they're like, we like to hang out.

And she's like upset that Lindsay's not drinking enough or something, And I just don't really get that. But I will say I think that Danielle's more upset that Lindsay's a bad friend to her and like doesn't actually care about her, and like she's like upset because she's used to Lindsey being single and needing Danielle around. And then as soon as Lindsay gets a boyfriend, she's like, I don't need you anymore and like that's like toxic. But it's not, like Danielle is not understanding the dynamic is because Lindsay is like incapable of like a mutual, right lasting bond.

And she's like upset that Lindsay's not drinking enough or something, And I just don't really get that. But I will say I think that Danielle's more upset that Lindsay's a bad friend to her and like doesn't actually care about her, and like she's like upset because she's used to Lindsey being single and needing Danielle around. And then as soon as Lindsay gets a boyfriend, she's like, I don't need you anymore and like that's like toxic. But it's not, like Danielle is not understanding the dynamic is because Lindsay is like incapable of like a mutual, right lasting bond.

Lindsey is an alcoholic in the sense that she globs onto people who are her drinking buddies.

Lindsey is an alcoholic in the sense that she globs onto people who are her drinking buddies.

Yes, so there's this big fight that happens because Carl has a conversation with Danielle that's like, are you not happy for Lindsay and I, And Danielle's like no, I am, Like I just I think I'm just sad that the relationship changed.

Yes, so there's this big fight that happens because Carl has a conversation with Danielle that's like, are you not happy for Lindsay and I, And Danielle's like no, I am, Like I just I think I'm just sad that the relationship changed.

Then they like make amends.

Then they like make amends.

Then Carl tells Lindsay like, yeah, I actually like had a good conversation.

Then Carl tells Lindsay like, yeah, I actually like had a good conversation.

With Danielle about how like I.

With Danielle about how like I.

Think she's just sad the dynamics are changing, and Lindsay is wasted and like freaks the fuck out and is like.

Think she's just sad the dynamics are changing, and Lindsay is wasted and like freaks the fuck out and is like.

Oh, okay, well, why don't you stand up for me?

Oh, okay, well, why don't you stand up for me?

Like I want you to tell this person that they're a piece of shit, and I like, am the one. But then as the conversation goes on, which is basically just her screaming at Carl and Carl doing what you're saying, like I can't believe you're doing this, like you're just drunk, like I'm the victim. But she's saying, all you care about is how you look, and she's what she's actually trying to say is like you just made up with Danielle, not because you care about her as a friend, but because you care about looking like the nice guy. And now I'm gonna look like the bad guy because I'm not ready to like make up with her and I'm still in a fight with her. So I thought that was really interesting because he's still trying to hold on to that to the extent where he's being so selfish, like he's still trying to be like, I'm the good guy, I'm showing up at the wedding shower of flowers, I'm doing this. But it's like, no, you're being really selfish because you're not capable of being honest with this person that you don't want to be with them anymore.

Like I want you to tell this person that they're a piece of shit, and I like, am the one. But then as the conversation goes on, which is basically just her screaming at Carl and Carl doing what you're saying, like I can't believe you're doing this, like you're just drunk, like I'm the victim. But she's saying, all you care about is how you look, and she's what she's actually trying to say is like you just made up with Danielle, not because you care about her as a friend, but because you care about looking like the nice guy. And now I'm gonna look like the bad guy because I'm not ready to like make up with her and I'm still in a fight with her. So I thought that was really interesting because he's still trying to hold on to that to the extent where he's being so selfish, like he's still trying to be like, I'm the good guy, I'm showing up at the wedding shower of flowers, I'm doing this. But it's like, no, you're being really selfish because you're not capable of being honest with this person that you don't want to be with them anymore.

Right, Yeah, I'm very excited to see the reunion because I have a feeling she is going to tell Carl like, you never wanted to marry me. You did this all for television, Like you did this all for the show, And I have a feeling he's going to be like, no, I wanted to marry you, but you like are abusive and told everyone that I don't like having sex, which I thought was fascinating. Danielle was on Watch What Happens Live and I forget that like everyone hooked up with Carl, and Andy goes, oh, were you surprised to hear about Lindsay and carl sex life, and she's like, no, because I dated Carl.

Right, Yeah, I'm very excited to see the reunion because I have a feeling she is going to tell Carl like, you never wanted to marry me. You did this all for television, Like you did this all for the show, And I have a feeling he's going to be like, no, I wanted to marry you, but you like are abusive and told everyone that I don't like having sex, which I thought was fascinating. Danielle was on Watch What Happens Live and I forget that like everyone hooked up with Carl, and Andy goes, oh, were you surprised to hear about Lindsay and carl sex life, and she's like, no, because I dated Carl.

Sorry. Interesting, So that's another thing, Like okay, so she's saying he also didn't like to have sex. Yeah, there's something going on there. Something's a right, something's afoot there. And also like the thing is like he's not very good.

Sorry. Interesting, So that's another thing, Like okay, so she's saying he also didn't like to have sex. Yeah, there's something going on there. Something's a right, something's afoot there. And also like the thing is like he's not very good.

Part of the conversation with Linda in the most recent episode is like he's really can't handle conflict, and he's like he starts like getting so anxious that I almost I'm sorry to say this, and I know it's not true, but I almost was like, is carl On Coke like during that conversation because he was so racy and so not able to talk, But I think it. I think we've seen carl On Coke for the first like six seasons straight and it wasn't like that, So I don't think he was. But I do think he was just so anxious and so uncomfortable with conflict that he was like racy and not sure how like to get his words out. And someone who can definitely get their statements across under high stress is Lindsay. It's true she thrives in conflict, So I think she is absolutely because like, let's let's be honest, the scandal all reunion was a little bit unsatisfying because Ariana was like sleepily just like throwing out like you're fucking disgusting, and it's like, can you like say an eloquent point about like what you really feel instead of just being like you're fucking trash, Like she was so low energy, And I'm sorry, I amt Mariana, but like that just wasn't as satisfying as a reunion.

Part of the conversation with Linda in the most recent episode is like he's really can't handle conflict, and he's like he starts like getting so anxious that I almost I'm sorry to say this, and I know it's not true, but I almost was like, is carl On Coke like during that conversation because he was so racy and so not able to talk, But I think it. I think we've seen carl On Coke for the first like six seasons straight and it wasn't like that, So I don't think he was. But I do think he was just so anxious and so uncomfortable with conflict that he was like racy and not sure how like to get his words out. And someone who can definitely get their statements across under high stress is Lindsay. It's true she thrives in conflict, So I think she is absolutely because like, let's let's be honest, the scandal all reunion was a little bit unsatisfying because Ariana was like sleepily just like throwing out like you're fucking disgusting, and it's like, can you like say an eloquent point about like what you really feel instead of just being like you're fucking trash, Like she was so low energy, And I'm sorry, I amt Mariana, but like that just wasn't as satisfying as a reunion.

As could have been.

As could have been.

And I feel like the way that Lindsey is gonna eviscerate him is going to be, as I say, iconic, iconic.

And I feel like the way that Lindsey is gonna eviscerate him is going to be, as I say, iconic, iconic.

I did love on I think it was the most recent EPP of vander Pump Rules when Brock, who is I think the most annoying person on the show, confronts Ariana about like forgiveness and she's like, oh, I think there's strength and not forgiving to hurt me. I love that I find strength in like basically female rage. And people always have a problem with female rage, but no one ever has a problem with male rage. You can see Brock is like dumbfounded by this nuance and like can't handle it because he was expecting to, like man, explain something to her, but I just find she She also says a therapy term I've never heard before, but she's like, I can like I'm allowed to grave rock someone. And gray rocking is when you are around an emotionally manipulative, abusive person, you treat them so coldly, you're like a gray rock, like you're because they can pull you in with their manipulation, so you just like are like yes, hi, no, thank you, avoid eye contact as you know, short answers as possible, and she basically was saying, like their strength in me protecting myself. Yes, and I found that super inspiring.

I did love on I think it was the most recent EPP of vander Pump Rules when Brock, who is I think the most annoying person on the show, confronts Ariana about like forgiveness and she's like, oh, I think there's strength and not forgiving to hurt me. I love that I find strength in like basically female rage. And people always have a problem with female rage, but no one ever has a problem with male rage. You can see Brock is like dumbfounded by this nuance and like can't handle it because he was expecting to, like man, explain something to her, but I just find she She also says a therapy term I've never heard before, but she's like, I can like I'm allowed to grave rock someone. And gray rocking is when you are around an emotionally manipulative, abusive person, you treat them so coldly, you're like a gray rock, like you're because they can pull you in with their manipulation, so you just like are like yes, hi, no, thank you, avoid eye contact as you know, short answers as possible, and she basically was saying, like their strength in me protecting myself. Yes, and I found that super inspiring.

I found that so inspiring too, and also I liked that she was explaining like I'm giving him nothing for a reason, like I'm not making it all for a reason. And also then Brock had some weird response that was like, oh, well, I don't think like men are rageful anymore. And then they did the editors did a super cut of all the men on the cast getting into screaming fights and like yelling and throwing things, which I loved. So that was definitely I am definitely team Mariana. But wait, so what do you think about her and Daniel her boyfriend?

I found that so inspiring too, and also I liked that she was explaining like I'm giving him nothing for a reason, like I'm not making it all for a reason. And also then Brock had some weird response that was like, oh, well, I don't think like men are rageful anymore. And then they did the editors did a super cut of all the men on the cast getting into screaming fights and like yelling and throwing things, which I loved. So that was definitely I am definitely team Mariana. But wait, so what do you think about her and Daniel her boyfriend?

Love him?

Love him?

I think that Arianna needs to be in a relationship, like she needs to be in a long term relationship. She just seems like someone who gets really attached, and I think she has a little bit of like maybe not borderline, but I think that the fact that she was with Sandoval so long like that is like a red flag. Yes, yeah, Like he's just one of the more unappealing people I've ever seen in my life. So I'm like, what drives you to basically want to be with someone like this? And she defended him like across things that were indefensible, and so just what's going on there, you know, like what family dynamic are you playing out?

I think that Arianna needs to be in a relationship, like she needs to be in a long term relationship. She just seems like someone who gets really attached, and I think she has a little bit of like maybe not borderline, but I think that the fact that she was with Sandoval so long like that is like a red flag. Yes, yeah, Like he's just one of the more unappealing people I've ever seen in my life. So I'm like, what drives you to basically want to be with someone like this? And she defended him like across things that were indefensible, and so just what's going on there, you know, like what family dynamic are you playing out?

Basically?

Basically?

But I think Daniel seems like a very good person from the little I can tell about him. It is so funny to me that it's so clear that Laala is like attracted to him, like she basically there was an edit of her just asking him a million questions and she's like, oh, wow, you work out, good for you. But she just it seems like her like quote unquote protecting her friend. But you're like, oh, you are very focused on this guy.

But I think Daniel seems like a very good person from the little I can tell about him. It is so funny to me that it's so clear that Laala is like attracted to him, like she basically there was an edit of her just asking him a million questions and she's like, oh, wow, you work out, good for you. But she just it seems like her like quote unquote protecting her friend. But you're like, oh, you are very focused on this guy.

Yeah, and it's like a lot of jealousy. I think I think Laala struggles with a lot of jealousy.

Yeah, and it's like a lot of jealousy. I think I think Laala struggles with a lot of jealousy.

I know she really got like the comments handed to her this season too, Like she's turned off her comments or she's limited her comments on all of her Instagram pictures.

I know she really got like the comments handed to her this season too, Like she's turned off her comments or she's limited her comments on all of her Instagram pictures.

I think so.

I think so.

Everyone was like what are you doing? Yeah, like why are you trying to be friends with Sandoval? Obviously, I think a lot of this is just because her and Sheena are like the ones who want to make sure that the show keeps going because they don't have like outside jobs, and so they were like constantly trying to include Sandoval when like Katie Maloney, like I truly think, like when in care if the world ended, Like she's so detached and like so emo that I think that she's fine with not hanging out with Santa bal and like wouldn't care if he quit the show.

Everyone was like what are you doing? Yeah, like why are you trying to be friends with Sandoval? Obviously, I think a lot of this is just because her and Sheena are like the ones who want to make sure that the show keeps going because they don't have like outside jobs, and so they were like constantly trying to include Sandoval when like Katie Maloney, like I truly think, like when in care if the world ended, Like she's so detached and like so emo that I think that she's fine with not hanging out with Santa bal and like wouldn't care if he quit the show.

By the way, the show is on pause.

By the way, the show is on pause.

I know, And I am so coodependent that I'm worried about everyone now, Like I'm like, what will I know? She just bought a house, her and she and they just bought houses. I know.

I know, And I am so coodependent that I'm worried about everyone now, Like I'm like, what will I know? She just bought a house, her and she and they just bought houses. I know.

I'm like that too, Like I feel like whenever I'm in the rewatch zone right now, I'm like the summer house people are in my family, like they're coming up on everybody. I have.

I'm like that too, Like I feel like whenever I'm in the rewatch zone right now, I'm like the summer house people are in my family, like they're coming up on everybody. I have.

My TikTok feed is like.

My TikTok feed is like.

Hoof picking videos, hoof picking videos.

Hoof picking videos, hoof picking videos.

Page picking videos.

Page picking videos.

Yeah, like no, it's cows. It's really weird.

Yeah, like no, it's cows. It's really weird.

That is really interesting.

That is really interesting.

It's like these these Irish there's an Irish man and there's a Midwestern man and they like show you how they're picking a cow's hoof and how there's like separation in the different layers of the hoof horn and that's why the cow has pain. And they like drain the abscess. You know, I don't know something's wrong with me. But I also get like these videos of Paige and Crag and like I was speaking of dream friendship since I'm visiting my friend on activity we engaged in is like watching my TikTok with her, because it was like, oh, should we put on another episode of something? And I kind of was like, well, I just kind of want to watch TikTok, so like, I guess we can just watch TikTok together.

It's like these these Irish there's an Irish man and there's a Midwestern man and they like show you how they're picking a cow's hoof and how there's like separation in the different layers of the hoof horn and that's why the cow has pain. And they like drain the abscess. You know, I don't know something's wrong with me. But I also get like these videos of Paige and Crag and like I was speaking of dream friendship since I'm visiting my friend on activity we engaged in is like watching my TikTok with her, because it was like, oh, should we put on another episode of something? And I kind of was like, well, I just kind of want to watch TikTok, so like, I guess we can just watch TikTok together.

And but like a video of Paige. She doesn't watch Summerhouse, but I really want her to.

And but like a video of Paige. She doesn't watch Summerhouse, but I really want her to.

But a video of Paige and Crag came up and I was like, oh, so that's Paige and that's Craig, like as if they're like my close friends. I'm like, oh, and so that's Paige and Craig and there she's visiting him in Charleston right now. And then I'm like onto the next Actually I had to stop showing the hoof videos because she got disturbed.

But a video of Paige and Crag came up and I was like, oh, so that's Paige and that's Craig, like as if they're like my close friends. I'm like, oh, and so that's Paige and Craig and there she's visiting him in Charleston right now. And then I'm like onto the next Actually I had to stop showing the hoof videos because she got disturbed.

But I also got a giraffe chiropractor.

But I also got a giraffe chiropractor.

I'm shaking my head.

I'm shaking my head.

It's a guy who's doing net cracking for a giraffe.

It's a guy who's doing net cracking for a giraffe.

And let me just say something like I never think about giraffe, but they're actually so cute.

And let me just say something like I never think about giraffe, but they're actually so cute.

Yeah, they really are cute. And he was like snuggling with the giraffe and it was so sweet.

Yeah, they really are cute. And he was like snuggling with the giraffe and it was so sweet.

I mean, I don't think the chiropractic thing is good, but I do think that that giraffes are really cute.

I mean, I don't think the chiropractic thing is good, but I do think that that giraffes are really cute.

That is really interesting. That's an interesting algorithm.

That is really interesting. That's an interesting algorithm.

It is. And then there's also Jojo Siwah. Obviously it's on that note.

It is. And then there's also Jojo Siwah. Obviously it's on that note.

Here's to us making new friends, going out in the world, trying to find new people. Yeah, and creating our own little summerhouse.

Here's to us making new friends, going out in the world, trying to find new people. Yeah, and creating our own little summerhouse.

Maybe we will.

Maybe we will.

We'll certainly like the people more than they like each other. Yeah, love you, Devin, Love you Carol, and.

We'll certainly like the people more than they like each other. Yeah, love you, Devin, Love you Carol, and.

Said so romantic.

Said so romantic.

Love me baby, don't leave me, Hagen, I wan't true.