Hi, it's me Bridger.

Hi, it's me Bridger.

The plan obviously was to have a new episode this week, but you know, if you're a news junkie like me, you may may have read a story about Los Angeles being on fire. That's kind of the current state of affairs. I'm sitting in my kitchen. There's a lot of stuff on fire, and it's just hell. I really can't help but feel like this is sort of punishment for all of the complaining I've done about rain on this podcast, and for that, I'm sorry. I'll try to learn from this, but you know, I whine about rain for years, and now I seem to have a problem with wind and fire and it's just starting to feel like there's no extreme weather pattern that will make me happy. I don't know what to say, but anyway, you know, it is a horrible, horrible nightmare. Fortunately, I'm all right, and I appreciate everybody emailing and messaging and commenting concerned about me and on a lease in the backyard and everything. And obviously not everyone did, and those people are now on my list. I'll deal with you later, but yeah, I've been very fortunate so far.

The plan obviously was to have a new episode this week, but you know, if you're a news junkie like me, you may may have read a story about Los Angeles being on fire. That's kind of the current state of affairs. I'm sitting in my kitchen. There's a lot of stuff on fire, and it's just hell. I really can't help but feel like this is sort of punishment for all of the complaining I've done about rain on this podcast, and for that, I'm sorry. I'll try to learn from this, but you know, I whine about rain for years, and now I seem to have a problem with wind and fire and it's just starting to feel like there's no extreme weather pattern that will make me happy. I don't know what to say, but anyway, you know, it is a horrible, horrible nightmare. Fortunately, I'm all right, and I appreciate everybody emailing and messaging and commenting concerned about me and on a lease in the backyard and everything. And obviously not everyone did, and those people are now on my list. I'll deal with you later, but yeah, I've been very fortunate so far.

I'm okay. The backyard is still there. There's a light layer.

I'm okay. The backyard is still there. There's a light layer.

Of ash, so we probably won't be recording episodes back there for a minute just due to everything in general, but hopefully we can get back there soon.

Of ash, so we probably won't be recording episodes back there for a minute just due to everything in general, but hopefully we can get back there soon.

If you feel like.

If you feel like.

Helping with this horrible, terrible nightmare scenario that we're currently living through, this is an easy way to help. You can google LA two zero five zero fire guide and the top result should be a volunteer and support guide with links to donate or to volunteer if you happen to be in the area all kinds of things. There are at least a thousand ways to help, so just take your pick, and if you can't or do not want to do any of that, that's also fine.

Helping with this horrible, terrible nightmare scenario that we're currently living through, this is an easy way to help. You can google LA two zero five zero fire guide and the top result should be a volunteer and support guide with links to donate or to volunteer if you happen to be in the area all kinds of things. There are at least a thousand ways to help, so just take your pick, and if you can't or do not want to do any of that, that's also fine.

Do your thing. I'm not your mom anyway. This episode is.

Do your thing. I'm not your mom anyway. This episode is.

A rerun with Cola Scola, who is just an absolute miracle. We all agree on that if you haven't heard it already, you'll enjoy it. If you've heard it before, you will enjoy it. I guess those are the two options. Oh an update on this episode. Actually, at the time, my doctor had just revealed to me that he was starting a podcast, and as far as I know, as of twenty twenty five, that podcast is no longer a podcast. It stopped existing, and yet this one is still standing. And I didn't have to go to medical school, so look who came out on top doctor. Anyway, feel free to listen to this episode or to dip into our rich back catalog of other episodes. Try to enjoy something, try to take care of yourself, or or don't. Again, maybe you feel like letting yourself go. That's also an option. I'm not here to force you to do anything. I just offered these suggestions. You take them and you use them to color your life in whatever.

A rerun with Cola Scola, who is just an absolute miracle. We all agree on that if you haven't heard it already, you'll enjoy it. If you've heard it before, you will enjoy it. I guess those are the two options. Oh an update on this episode. Actually, at the time, my doctor had just revealed to me that he was starting a podcast, and as far as I know, as of twenty twenty five, that podcast is no longer a podcast. It stopped existing, and yet this one is still standing. And I didn't have to go to medical school, so look who came out on top doctor. Anyway, feel free to listen to this episode or to dip into our rich back catalog of other episodes. Try to enjoy something, try to take care of yourself, or or don't. Again, maybe you feel like letting yourself go. That's also an option. I'm not here to force you to do anything. I just offered these suggestions. You take them and you use them to color your life in whatever.

Way you see fit. Oh my god, let's get into the show. Invit.

Way you see fit. Oh my god, let's get into the show. Invit.

Did you hear fun a man? Myself? Perfectly clear? But you're I guess Tom, you gotta come to me empty and I said, no, guest, your presences, presents, and I'm already too much stuff.

Did you hear fun a man? Myself? Perfectly clear? But you're I guess Tom, you gotta come to me empty and I said, no, guest, your presences, presents, and I'm already too much stuff.

So how do you dad?

So how do you dad?

Disurbey me?

Disurbey me?

Welcome to I said, no gifts. I am Bridger Wineger. I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're having a nice day. I what's going on? Let's see this morning, I went to the doctor, you know, for just a general checkup, and he told me that he has a podcast. This was unprompted and of his little shocking for me. So I just thought i'd let you know that there is some level of competition out there, and I won't be naming the doctor or the podcast. He's not getting any advertising here. We have to move on. I'm today's guests. I could not be more thrilled. One of the absolute funniest, none other than Cola Scola Coal High Bridger.

Welcome to I said, no gifts. I am Bridger Wineger. I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're having a nice day. I what's going on? Let's see this morning, I went to the doctor, you know, for just a general checkup, and he told me that he has a podcast. This was unprompted and of his little shocking for me. So I just thought i'd let you know that there is some level of competition out there, and I won't be naming the doctor or the podcast. He's not getting any advertising here. We have to move on. I'm today's guests. I could not be more thrilled. One of the absolute funniest, none other than Cola Scola Coal High Bridger.

Welcome to I said, no gifts, How are you?

Welcome to I said, no gifts, How are you?

I'm great. I just I'm sorry about the mole. The well. I was listening to your Doctor's podcasts and today's topic was your your mole.

I'm great. I just I'm sorry about the mole. The well. I was listening to your Doctor's podcasts and today's topic was your your mole.

Right, and it doesn't look like things are it's going to be an issue, right.

Right, and it doesn't look like things are it's going to be an issue, right.

He said? He said, it's not cancerous, but it is ugly, right, so.

He said? He said, it's not cancerous, but it is ugly, right, so.

And kind of just an unremovable It's just something I have to live with at this point.

And kind of just an unremovable It's just something I have to live with at this point.

Yeah, insurance won't cover that, and yeah.

Yeah, insurance won't cover that, and yeah.

I'm not paying out of pocket, right, I'll live ugly with this ugly mole before I spend a penny. So great, I mean, I didn't obviously realized he was recording at the time I was in the room, but I did sign all of the sheets before going into the office.

I'm not paying out of pocket, right, I'll live ugly with this ugly mole before I spend a penny. So great, I mean, I didn't obviously realized he was recording at the time I was in the room, but I did sign all of the sheets before going into the office.

Yeah, I mean it sounded like you were doing a mic check. I mean it's opened with the two of you going check check check one two.

Yeah, I mean it sounded like you were doing a mic check. I mean it's opened with the two of you going check check check one two.

This is Bridger.

This is Bridger.

Well, when somebody, when somebody tells me to do something, I just kind of followed directions. I got at the doctor's office to cause trouble.

Well, when somebody, when somebody tells me to do something, I just kind of followed directions. I got at the doctor's office to cause trouble.

Right, right, right right.

Right, right, right right.

You're from Utah, right, And he's a medical professional, for all I know. He just wanted to check my throat or what have you. Yes, and I trust him. I've seen him three times now, so that's enough. There's the charm. Yeah, RTA, And I know you know he's taken some sort of oath.

You're from Utah, right, And he's a medical professional, for all I know. He just wanted to check my throat or what have you. Yes, and I trust him. I've seen him three times now, so that's enough. There's the charm. Yeah, RTA, And I know you know he's taken some sort of oath.

Mm hmmm.

Mm hmmm.

I had had listen. I actually had a very stressful time on my way to the doctor. There was the world's longest train stopping. There was a train that truly was bisecting Los Angeles.

I had had listen. I actually had a very stressful time on my way to the doctor. There was the world's longest train stopping. There was a train that truly was bisecting Los Angeles.

Oh ye, So you're in your car and then you're waiting for train to pass.

Oh ye, So you're in your car and then you're waiting for train to pass.

Right, and the train wasn't passing, and I ended up having to drive beyond the train.

Right, and the train wasn't passing, and I ended up having to drive beyond the train.

Wait, so you are your neck and neck, you're racing the train, get around it your neck and neck, and you cut it off in order to make it to the doctor's appointment.

Wait, so you are your neck and neck, you're racing the train, get around it your neck and neck, and you cut it off in order to make it to the doctor's appointment.

Right only to be secretly recording this kind of personal issue, this mole that I've been living with through the pandemic worryings. Just am I going to be having this hideous thing on me forever?

Right only to be secretly recording this kind of personal issue, this mole that I've been living with through the pandemic worryings. Just am I going to be having this hideous thing on me forever?

And now you know you you will? I will? How do you move forward? You don't?

And now you know you you will? I will? How do you move forward? You don't?

You have to dwell, you have to live there. This is just eat you from the inside out. And just that's the sort of situation there.

You have to dwell, you have to live there. This is just eat you from the inside out. And just that's the sort of situation there.

You are now.

You are now.

Kind of one of those dead like you see those photos of a fox that's kind of just been eaten from the inside out lying in the snow carcass.

Kind of one of those dead like you see those photos of a fox that's kind of just been eaten from the inside out lying in the snow carcass.

I think we have the same search hist Bridger. I'm not sure what you're searching. I you know, I'm constantly looking for a rotting foxes. What are you talking about?

I think we have the same search hist Bridger. I'm not sure what you're searching. I you know, I'm constantly looking for a rotting foxes. What are you talking about?

I feel like I've seen you must. I actually don't know where this would have come from, but I feel like at some point, some sort of time lapse footage has crossed my desk of a fox being kind of devoured by nature.

I feel like I've seen you must. I actually don't know where this would have come from, but I feel like at some point, some sort of time lapse footage has crossed my desk of a fox being kind of devoured by nature.

You know what, I won't lie, I can.

You know what, I won't lie, I can.

I can conjure that image in my mind, which means I must have seen it at some point as well.

I can conjure that image in my mind, which means I must have seen it at some point as well.

There must be some sort of maybe I don't know, a National geographic or Planet Earth or where they're showing right where they kind of blindside you with dead animal. The view they must view they have the they will just bring in various animal corpse and put them in the table and just let that be topic of conversation.

There must be some sort of maybe I don't know, a National geographic or Planet Earth or where they're showing right where they kind of blindside you with dead animal. The view they must view they have the they will just bring in various animal corpse and put them in the table and just let that be topic of conversation.

Occasionally they just let it be something to cut to, you know, just the swarm of flies devouring of all the ladies talk. It's my favorite part. Yeah, Cole, what have you been up to?

Occasionally they just let it be something to cut to, you know, just the swarm of flies devouring of all the ladies talk. It's my favorite part. Yeah, Cole, what have you been up to?

Oh?

Oh?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know, I don't know nothing. Everything I've been you know, everything's a chore.

I don't know, I don't know nothing. Everything I've been you know, everything's a chore.

Right. Do you feel like it's getting harder and harder? I always, ever since I was a child, everything's been getting harder and harder, And maybe everything will just continue to get harder and harder until it's unbearable and then death. I think that's probably true.

Right. Do you feel like it's getting harder and harder? I always, ever since I was a child, everything's been getting harder and harder, And maybe everything will just continue to get harder and harder until it's unbearable and then death. I think that's probably true.

I think that there's like a through your twenties, things get a little bit easier and then I mean, isn't it just the inevitable that you grow weaker, more tired, and the.

I think that there's like a through your twenties, things get a little bit easier and then I mean, isn't it just the inevitable that you grow weaker, more tired, and the.

Challenges the body? Yeah, I this time lapse. We are all the fox on the table at the View, just being eaten from the inside while the ladies talk about, you know, whatever they talk about.

Challenges the body? Yeah, I this time lapse. We are all the fox on the table at the View, just being eaten from the inside while the ladies talk about, you know, whatever they talk about.

I haven't.

I haven't.

I don't know the last time. I don't know that I've actually ever watched a full episode of the View. Do you have you ever sat down and just set through the View? You still love it?

I don't know the last time. I don't know that I've actually ever watched a full episode of the View. Do you have you ever sat down and just set through the View? You still love it?

Really? I don't.

Really? I don't.

Yeah, I mean actually I don't know why I ask like that. Of course, it's it's a very entertaining thing to watch them. Yeah, but now anything, I don't like reality anything. Reality is too stressful for me.

Yeah, I mean actually I don't know why I ask like that. Of course, it's it's a very entertaining thing to watch them. Yeah, but now anything, I don't like reality anything. Reality is too stressful for me.

Right, competition shows, Real Housewives, Oh, that's so anxiety inducing.

Right, competition shows, Real Housewives, Oh, that's so anxiety inducing.

I'm only recently watching the Housewives, which and only because it's the Salt Lake City Housewives, and so it's Oh, I feel like I had no choice. And then it took over for me, it really because once I settled into that energy, which was too much for me. Yeah, I'm enjoying it, but I can't the rest of them. I can't get into. Well, you got to support your mom. I know that she's sort of the star of that show. Well, look, they put her hell and those auditions, and she did everything to get on. She started her own little business, turned it into an empire. Have you really been watching the whole show. Oh, I've seen every episode of that season, and you do like it. I do enjoy watching it, Okay. I didn't expect to, because I have I know a lot of people and I'm sure you do too, a lot of people who love all of the housewives.

I'm only recently watching the Housewives, which and only because it's the Salt Lake City Housewives, and so it's Oh, I feel like I had no choice. And then it took over for me, it really because once I settled into that energy, which was too much for me. Yeah, I'm enjoying it, but I can't the rest of them. I can't get into. Well, you got to support your mom. I know that she's sort of the star of that show. Well, look, they put her hell and those auditions, and she did everything to get on. She started her own little business, turned it into an empire. Have you really been watching the whole show. Oh, I've seen every episode of that season, and you do like it. I do enjoy watching it, Okay. I didn't expect to, because I have I know a lot of people and I'm sure you do too, a lot of people who love all of the housewives.

Yes, and I could not.

Yes, and I could not.

I tried maybe Beverly Hills or something at some point, and I think I watched two episodes and that was it for me. But the Salt Lake Housewives are so unbelievably low rent, and I just feel like they're always in an extremely drafty room and there's something about them that feels right and I can get into it. And it's also like it's just fun to see them hosting at events that are supposedly classy and that I'm like, oh, that's next to them.

I tried maybe Beverly Hills or something at some point, and I think I watched two episodes and that was it for me. But the Salt Lake Housewives are so unbelievably low rent, and I just feel like they're always in an extremely drafty room and there's something about them that feels right and I can get into it. And it's also like it's just fun to see them hosting at events that are supposedly classy and that I'm like, oh, that's next to them.

All right, right, right, right today we're at the tcby for the big charity event.

All right, right, right, right today we're at the tcby for the big charity event.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean.

The shows are so convoluted and so I mean everything about no one goes to that many events or even interacts with their friends that much.

The shows are so convoluted and so I mean everything about no one goes to that many events or even interacts with their friends that much.

Oh yeah, or I don't.

Oh yeah, or I don't.

I can't imagine like seeing like fighting with people and then continuing to see them for years and years, you know, like I've maybe had like like one disagreement with like maybe three friends. You know, then it took like a year to recover from that, you know.

I can't imagine like seeing like fighting with people and then continuing to see them for years and years, you know, like I've maybe had like like one disagreement with like maybe three friends. You know, then it took like a year to recover from that, you know.

Right, Like I'll go to a wonderful dinner with a friend and not see them for two of yous.

Right, Like I'll go to a wonderful dinner with a friend and not see them for two of yous.

Sure, sure, and nothing bad happened at all, Right, but these.

Sure, sure, and nothing bad happened at all, Right, but these.

Shows are made to just stress you out.

Shows are made to just stress you out.

And it's like, oh, is Amber going to show up to the party and You're just on the edge of your seat and I just find my self like my stomach is in knots over like something I don't care about about people that I don't care about that I would hate in real life, And I think, why am I doing this myself? So instead I've been watching a lecture on the plague? Wait, you've been watching a lecture on the plague? Yes, who is doing a lecture? It's through the Great Courses. Plus do they s this podcast? They should?

And it's like, oh, is Amber going to show up to the party and You're just on the edge of your seat and I just find my self like my stomach is in knots over like something I don't care about about people that I don't care about that I would hate in real life, And I think, why am I doing this myself? So instead I've been watching a lecture on the plague? Wait, you've been watching a lecture on the plague? Yes, who is doing a lecture? It's through the Great Courses. Plus do they s this podcast? They should?

I can't believe they haven't yet.

I can't believe they haven't yet.

It's like it's like Masterclass, but Masterclass is really slick and sexy and like celebrities, right, It's sort of like Masterclass goes to these celebrities and says like, do you want to hear some money.

It's like it's like Masterclass, but Masterclass is really slick and sexy and like celebrities, right, It's sort of like Masterclass goes to these celebrities and says like, do you want to hear some money.

Talk, right, it doesn't have to be about anything. Yeah, and you don't really learn anything. It's just Aaron Zork and being like, man, I love cocaine and writing, and you're like, oh, why am I paying for this? Okay?

Talk, right, it doesn't have to be about anything. Yeah, and you don't really learn anything. It's just Aaron Zork and being like, man, I love cocaine and writing, and you're like, oh, why am I paying for this? Okay?

But then the Great Courses plus is people that should never be on It's these college professors who have no charisma. They're on these horrible sets. It's like a substitute teacher sort of energy.

But then the Great Courses plus is people that should never be on It's these college professors who have no charisma. They're on these horrible sets. It's like a substitute teacher sort of energy.

It's like tele learning at college that was called something like distance learning, or.

It's like tele learning at college that was called something like distance learning, or.

They're reading off of a teleprompter. They don't do any cuts, so often they'll stumble, Oh that sounds incredible to me. Yeah, it's very soothing. But I just finished the twenty four part lecture on the plague.

They're reading off of a teleprompter. They don't do any cuts, so often they'll stumble, Oh that sounds incredible to me. Yeah, it's very soothing. But I just finished the twenty four part lecture on the plague.

Twenty four parts? How long is each part? Half an hour? Oh?

Twenty four parts? How long is each part? Half an hour? Oh?

Okay, so that's not bad. No, And do you feel like you learned about the plague?

Okay, so that's not bad. No, And do you feel like you learned about the plague?

Yeah? I do.

Yeah? I do.

I want to hear what you've learned. I mean, just a brief summary would be.

I want to hear what you've learned. I mean, just a brief summary would be.

I learned that it was actually really bad, like despite all the you know, like movies and popular songs and like you know, culture, it was actually at the time people I didn't love it, and that is it took me, you know, twelve hours of that lecture to sort of put that together.

I learned that it was actually really bad, like despite all the you know, like movies and popular songs and like you know, culture, it was actually at the time people I didn't love it, and that is it took me, you know, twelve hours of that lecture to sort of put that together.

I imagine you're so a little bit in denial.

I imagine you're so a little bit in denial.

Yeah, I mean I learned about, you know, how they blamed the Jews.

Yeah, I mean I learned about, you know, how they blamed the Jews.

I learned.

I learned.

Just all sorts of awful, awful things about how there's even some some people think there was more than the plague going on, that there was anthrax.

Just all sorts of awful, awful things about how there's even some some people think there was more than the plague going on, that there was anthrax.

Or you know, anthrags.

Or you know, anthrags.

Yeah, which is I didn't realize is like a naturally occurring thing, right, It was so so much.

Yeah, which is I didn't realize is like a naturally occurring thing, right, It was so so much.

To me like a ninety like a sexy nineties thousands poison.

To me like a ninety like a sexy nineties thousands poison.

I thought it was from the nineties.

I thought it was from the nineties.

Yeah, wow, anthrugs, Wait is it a bacteria?

Yeah, wow, anthrugs, Wait is it a bacteria?

I guess I don't know.

I guess I don't know.

I'm saying yes, but I but only because I want to have an answer for you.

I'm saying yes, but I but only because I want to have an answer for you.

But the truth is I don't. I don't really remember, like maybe.

But the truth is I don't. I don't really remember, like maybe.

And the reason I associate anthrax with like a more modern thing is well outside of the early thousands scare is that I think there's like the metal band Anthrax. It's kind of in the metallica.

And the reason I associate anthrax with like a more modern thing is well outside of the early thousands scare is that I think there's like the metal band Anthrax. It's kind of in the metallica.

Realm, that kind of thing.

Realm, that kind of thing.

So those are my two big associations with anthrax. Some people slash themselves with urine. Okay, they thought, like the fumes from urine and like from the latrines would would like kill the bad plague air.

So those are my two big associations with anthrax. Some people slash themselves with urine. Okay, they thought, like the fumes from urine and like from the latrines would would like kill the bad plague air.

Right, Well, I mean urine kind of has some medicinal I mean, don't they tell you to pee on yourself if.

Right, Well, I mean urine kind of has some medicinal I mean, don't they tell you to pee on yourself if.

You get your doctor?

You get your doctor?

I remember he got me up on the table and said, okay, now just pee, just let it go, let it go, Let's get the mic on you, and then just start to pee.

I remember he got me up on the table and said, okay, now just pee, just let it go, let it go, Let's get the mic on you, and then just start to pee.

Like I really want to talk about this mole. But okay, yeah.

Like I really want to talk about this mole. But okay, yeah.

Yeah, well I was going to say, I think, I mean, I could be wrong. If you get stung by a sting ray, you're supposed to pee pee or someone jellyfish, jellyfish, that's right. Yes, That's why I've had so many problems with stingrays.

Yeah, well I was going to say, I think, I mean, I could be wrong. If you get stung by a sting ray, you're supposed to pee pee or someone jellyfish, jellyfish, that's right. Yes, That's why I've had so many problems with stingrays.

You're always pissing on yourself after these stingray attacks. Rest in peace, Steve Irwin, who was coming by? Yeah, which is I know why you had me on here.

You're always pissing on yourself after these stingray attacks. Rest in peace, Steve Irwin, who was coming by? Yeah, which is I know why you had me on here.

I asked you to come on. Well, you wrote the poem.

I asked you to come on. Well, you wrote the poem.

Yeah, yeah, stingray, stingray.

Yeah, yeah, stingray, stingray.

You killed Steve Stingray, Stingray.

You killed Steve Stingray, Stingray.

I'm relieved you wrote kind of you it's kind of a hit piece that you wrote. Yeah, you've been waiting years to finally get this out.

I'm relieved you wrote kind of you it's kind of a hit piece that you wrote. Yeah, you've been waiting years to finally get this out.

Oh yeah, well, speaking of poetry, the lecture on the plague ended, and then I won't talk about it anymore.

Oh yeah, well, speaking of poetry, the lecture on the plague ended, and then I won't talk about it anymore.

But I need to get my money for I'm happy to talk about this.

But I need to get my money for I'm happy to talk about this.

I don't want you to feel like we can't talk about the great Like the only reason I don't want to talk about it is because I actually haven't retained that much information, right, And now you're kind of being exposed the moment that you tell someone you read something or have seen something.

I don't want you to feel like we can't talk about the great Like the only reason I don't want to talk about it is because I actually haven't retained that much information, right, And now you're kind of being exposed the moment that you tell someone you read something or have seen something.

Like, oh yeah, it's a fear to get it. Yeah, I'm terrified. I'm sweating. But it ended with it was made like in twenty seventeen, so it was pre COVID, right, But basically she said there are more, bigger, worse plagues coming. There was even an outbreak of the plague in the nineties in India and now and then there was a variant of it that ended up on Madagascar that is resistant to all antibiotics. But then she for some reason decided like, oh, well, you know what, but it's not all bad, Like she had to have like end on a positive note, and her positive note was if we hadn't had the plague, Chaucer might not have had benefactors who came into money because of the plague, So we might not have had Chaucer. Yeah, so it's like, oh good, I feel better that there might be some great poetry.

Like, oh yeah, it's a fear to get it. Yeah, I'm terrified. I'm sweating. But it ended with it was made like in twenty seventeen, so it was pre COVID, right, But basically she said there are more, bigger, worse plagues coming. There was even an outbreak of the plague in the nineties in India and now and then there was a variant of it that ended up on Madagascar that is resistant to all antibiotics. But then she for some reason decided like, oh, well, you know what, but it's not all bad, Like she had to have like end on a positive note, and her positive note was if we hadn't had the plague, Chaucer might not have had benefactors who came into money because of the plague, So we might not have had Chaucer. Yeah, so it's like, oh good, I feel better that there might be some great poetry.

I can't believe.

I can't believe.

I mean, I feel like there have been several excellent COVID produced you know, there's the Netflix show, and we're all grateful for these crown You mean The Crowd was kind of produced because of COVID.

I mean, I feel like there have been several excellent COVID produced you know, there's the Netflix show, and we're all grateful for these crown You mean The Crowd was kind of produced because of COVID.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, Actually, speaking of that, I will say and say it, but I'm just going to say, the one person that has created anything within this pandemic worth watching, and I'm so glad you're here is you. And you produce it very fast. When you put you made your special like late April of last year or something. Yeah, yeah, so we were like a month into the pandemic and you had like a.

Yeah, Actually, speaking of that, I will say and say it, but I'm just going to say, the one person that has created anything within this pandemic worth watching, and I'm so glad you're here is you. And you produce it very fast. When you put you made your special like late April of last year or something. Yeah, yeah, so we were like a month into the pandemic and you had like a.

One opportunity, and I said, here we go. This is going to be it, and I this is going to launch me into the stratosphere. And lo and behold, a few people have watched it and it have been very nice about it.

One opportunity, and I said, here we go. This is going to be it, and I this is going to launch me into the stratosphere. And lo and behold, a few people have watched it and it have been very nice about it.

It is the only only thing that has been producing the last year in COVID conditions that I think is worth consuming.

It is the only only thing that has been producing the last year in COVID conditions that I think is worth consuming.

Thanks Bragerie.

Thanks Bragerie.

I'm not I'm not just saying if the listener has not seen help, I'm stuck. Yeah, it's an absolute I've seen it twice now, and I mean I had seen the live show, which is wonderful, but it translated so well to you've shot on like an iPhone camera or something, right, Yeah, had you been planning on doing it or was it just like I'm bored?

I'm not I'm not just saying if the listener has not seen help, I'm stuck. Yeah, it's an absolute I've seen it twice now, and I mean I had seen the live show, which is wonderful, but it translated so well to you've shot on like an iPhone camera or something, right, Yeah, had you been planning on doing it or was it just like I'm bored?

And it was like, I really I did the live show and I wanted I hoped it would be made into a special, but then nobody wanted it. And also, well, you know, people don't have the best taste, and by people I mean me. But I always wondered, like, how would I produce this as a special anyway when so much of it hinges on the fact that I'm just alone on stage doing costume changes. Very low stakes, right, So actually having to do it alone in my apartment was the perfect like you know, the correct steaks for that.

And it was like, I really I did the live show and I wanted I hoped it would be made into a special, but then nobody wanted it. And also, well, you know, people don't have the best taste, and by people I mean me. But I always wondered, like, how would I produce this as a special anyway when so much of it hinges on the fact that I'm just alone on stage doing costume changes. Very low stakes, right, So actually having to do it alone in my apartment was the perfect like you know, the correct steaks for that.

Right? Was it hard?

Right? Was it hard?

It was shooting anything? I mean on any level, it's difficult and it looks very good.

It was shooting anything? I mean on any level, it's difficult and it looks very good.

Oh stop, I think it looks terrible, But I'm still very pleased with under the conditions, the.

Oh stop, I think it looks terrible, But I'm still very pleased with under the conditions, the.

Fact that it was shot by one person, and I mean sh I edited it. I did everything, my makeup, hair, everything. How long did it take? Like ten days? Because everything had been written already, and so then I just sort of made a schedule and I filmed it all at night because my neighbors are loud and there's street noise because I live in New York.

Fact that it was shot by one person, and I mean sh I edited it. I did everything, my makeup, hair, everything. How long did it take? Like ten days? Because everything had been written already, and so then I just sort of made a schedule and I filmed it all at night because my neighbors are loud and there's street noise because I live in New York.

So yeah, And did it ever feel like it was? Did you feel like, oh I should just stop? I feel like after two days of that, I'm like, never mind, I'm not Now.

So yeah, And did it ever feel like it was? Did you feel like, oh I should just stop? I feel like after two days of that, I'm like, never mind, I'm not Now.

When I start doing something, I'm too afraid to stop. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of stopping anything right right.

When I start doing something, I'm too afraid to stop. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of stopping anything right right.

I'm afraid to stop talking right now because what if I die?

I'm afraid to stop talking right now because what if I die?

You know that sort of thing.

You know that sort of thing.

I'm just going to sit in silence for about Oh God, it's kind you a little pelican cutting board?

I'm just going to sit in silence for about Oh God, it's kind you a little pelican cutting board?

Oh it is.

Oh it is.

It's a little I bought that at a thrift store in Utah called Deseret Industries and maybe two thousand and two. It's just like, I don't I really love it. It's like a piece of art of a pelican that somebody made it. I think it's called someone signed the name Scoota or something in the bottom corner, and I've never known where it came from or.

It's a little I bought that at a thrift store in Utah called Deseret Industries and maybe two thousand and two. It's just like, I don't I really love it. It's like a piece of art of a pelican that somebody made it. I think it's called someone signed the name Scoota or something in the bottom corner, and I've never known where it came from or.

What was the point for the for the listeners.

What was the point for the for the listeners.

When you post this episode, will you also post a photo of that cutting course, so that of the course I have something to, you know, look forward to a companion piece.

When you post this episode, will you also post a photo of that cutting course, so that of the course I have something to, you know, look forward to a companion piece.

That we have to They will see that. It's like a weird fabric. It's not a cutting board. It's like someone painted on a piece of fabric. And I really appreciate it. I either stole it or paid very little for it. There was a period when I did a decent amount of shoplifting, and but that I feel like it was.

That we have to They will see that. It's like a weird fabric. It's not a cutting board. It's like someone painted on a piece of fabric. And I really appreciate it. I either stole it or paid very little for it. There was a period when I did a decent amount of shoplifting, and but that I feel like it was.

Too big too. What do you do to get that rush? Now?

Too big too. What do you do to get that rush? Now?

I consider shoplifting? Oh, okay, Occasionally I'll be in a store. Yeah, yeah, I haven't shoplifted since I was a teenager, But occasional I'll be like, what if I just stole this right now?

I consider shoplifting? Oh, okay, Occasionally I'll be in a store. Yeah, yeah, I haven't shoplifted since I was a teenager, But occasional I'll be like, what if I just stole this right now?

Yeah?

Yeah?

And then I think, and then what happens when everyone finds out that I've been arrested for shoplifting?

And then I think, and then what happens when everyone finds out that I've been arrested for shoplifting?

Right? Have you ever shoplifted? No? Have you ever been tempted? No?

Right? Have you ever shoplifted? No? Have you ever been tempted? No?

I'm too aared of that. I'm even afraid of people thinking I'm shoplifting. So if I'm like and I always try to make my presence known at a store, if there's a camera in the store, I like sort of acknowledge it, and I'm very careful with how I hold my items, like yes, I look at the camera as if to say, yes, this toothpaste is going in this basket. No funny business here, don't worry about me.

I'm too aared of that. I'm even afraid of people thinking I'm shoplifting. So if I'm like and I always try to make my presence known at a store, if there's a camera in the store, I like sort of acknowledge it, and I'm very careful with how I hold my items, like yes, I look at the camera as if to say, yes, this toothpaste is going in this basket. No funny business here, don't worry about me.

But that, to me feels like you're drawing even more attention to I feel like whoever's watching the security camera thinks they're trying to pull one over on us.

But that, to me feels like you're drawing even more attention to I feel like whoever's watching the security camera thinks they're trying to pull one over on us.

And well, maybe I don't know, you'd have to, you'd have to.

And well, maybe I don't know, you'd have to, you'd have to.

Maybe we should well do a part two of this interview where I go to the rite Aid on the corner right to speak to the security guards and get their take.

Maybe we should well do a part two of this interview where I go to the rite Aid on the corner right to speak to the security guards and get their take.

Now, there was a point, you know, I wander through a lot of stores. I love wandering through stores and just looking at objects with that with no intention of buying.

Now, there was a point, you know, I wander through a lot of stores. I love wandering through stores and just looking at objects with that with no intention of buying.

And there was a period that I feel like.

And there was a period that I feel like.

When I first moved to La that I would go to a seven eleven on occasion just wander around to just free my mind. And I think the person occasionally or eventually thought that I was shoplifting and asked me not to come back, which is probably just what was happening in my life that I thought seven eleven was a relaxing place to be.

When I first moved to La that I would go to a seven eleven on occasion just wander around to just free my mind. And I think the person occasionally or eventually thought that I was shoplifting and asked me not to come back, which is probably just what was happening in my life that I thought seven eleven was a relaxing place to be.

It's you know, it's familiar. Yeah, it's got to be.

It's you know, it's familiar. Yeah, it's got to be.

A sort of sterile comfort.

A sort of sterile comfort.

You know.

You know.

The air conditioning at a seven eleven is always exquisite, right, freezing cold, freezing cold, freezing cold. It's like a retirement home, you know. But I used to hang out at a pharmacy when I was a little kid, and I got kicked out for spending too much time there.

The air conditioning at a seven eleven is always exquisite, right, freezing cold, freezing cold, freezing cold. It's like a retirement home, you know. But I used to hang out at a pharmacy when I was a little kid, and I got kicked out for spending too much time there.

Really, yeah, And how old were you when this was happening.

Really, yeah, And how old were you when this was happening.

It's like ten, and my friends and I would just go to this pharmacy and ask people if they needed help, like finding things.

It's like ten, and my friends and I would just go to this pharmacy and ask people if they needed help, like finding things.

Did you ever help anyone?

Did you ever help anyone?

Sometimes sometimes I think people were just humoring us. And right, we were children. We had nothing to do. It was so boring, you know, childhood, well cole miserable.

Sometimes sometimes I think people were just humoring us. And right, we were children. We had nothing to do. It was so boring, you know, childhood, well cole miserable.

Oh what I don't I don't know. Look, look, okay, so obviously you're here.

Oh what I don't I don't know. Look, look, okay, so obviously you're here.

I'm here.

I'm here.

Yes, a few weeks ago you agreed to be on the podcast. I was so happy. Yeah, yeah, I love Cole reluctantly. Of course I kind of dragged you into this, and uh, all that said, it seemed like you were at least going to play fair and just be here as a pleasant guest. We would have a nice little chat and then move on with our lives, hopefully never see each other again. Yeah. And then a couple nights to go, the doorbell rang. Yeah, I believe it was night. Wow, believe Uh, which is frightening for any purpose. Sure, we don't have a lot of visitors. And I opened the door and there was a box there, large square box addressed to me, uh return address on No, I mean, not unknown, but from Williams Sonoma. I had not ordered anything from Williams Sonoma. Love william Sonoma. I have never purchased anything there because it's a little above my you know. It's more of a going and brows and dream of a life of the Williams Sonoma shopper, right, see the latest novelty, that kind of thing. So I brought it in and my mind started circling what possibilities this could have, where this could have possibly come from, And then it occurred to me Cole as the last person I contact with. They've got my address, and obviously I I don't know.

Yes, a few weeks ago you agreed to be on the podcast. I was so happy. Yeah, yeah, I love Cole reluctantly. Of course I kind of dragged you into this, and uh, all that said, it seemed like you were at least going to play fair and just be here as a pleasant guest. We would have a nice little chat and then move on with our lives, hopefully never see each other again. Yeah. And then a couple nights to go, the doorbell rang. Yeah, I believe it was night. Wow, believe Uh, which is frightening for any purpose. Sure, we don't have a lot of visitors. And I opened the door and there was a box there, large square box addressed to me, uh return address on No, I mean, not unknown, but from Williams Sonoma. I had not ordered anything from Williams Sonoma. Love william Sonoma. I have never purchased anything there because it's a little above my you know. It's more of a going and brows and dream of a life of the Williams Sonoma shopper, right, see the latest novelty, that kind of thing. So I brought it in and my mind started circling what possibilities this could have, where this could have possibly come from, And then it occurred to me Cole as the last person I contact with. They've got my address, and obviously I I don't know.

I was.

I was.

I was a little broken up about it. And now I'm just going to ask you. Okay, this podcast is called I said no gifts, and I have to assume I opened the box and there was a gift wrapped box.

I was a little broken up about it. And now I'm just going to ask you. Okay, this podcast is called I said no gifts, and I have to assume I opened the box and there was a gift wrapped box.

Is this a gift for me? Yes? Okay? Should I open it here on the podcast?

Is this a gift for me? Yes? Okay? Should I open it here on the podcast?

Yeah? You should open it and then I'll explain. I know you said no gifts, and I respect that boundary. But once once you open it, I can explain and hopefully it'll make sense.

Yeah? You should open it and then I'll explain. I know you said no gifts, and I respect that boundary. But once once you open it, I can explain and hopefully it'll make sense.

Okay, and you'll understand why I had to.

Okay, and you'll understand why I had to.

Okay, for the listener, this is a heavy white box, maybe the heaviest gift on this podcast so far, I would hope.

Okay, for the listener, this is a heavy white box, maybe the heaviest gift on this podcast so far, I would hope.

So you left you give gifts by weight. Yeah, oh yeah, Let's just open it up here and see what happens. This looks like a beautiful wedding gift if I were ever to get married. This is how it would feel like. Right, I think that's probably what what these things are usually. And keep going, keep right right.

So you left you give gifts by weight. Yeah, oh yeah, Let's just open it up here and see what happens. This looks like a beautiful wedding gift if I were ever to get married. This is how it would feel like. Right, I think that's probably what what these things are usually. And keep going, keep right right.

I'm not gonna I'm going to keep my eyes away from the box.

I'm not gonna I'm going to keep my eyes away from the box.

Until completely open, kind of do a doing my best to keep it a complete surprise. Oh my god. Yeah, this is a beautiful waffle maker. Yeah, a vertical waffle maker, which a vertical waffle maker I'm not even familiar with. Well, the reason that I got it for you is because I've been having this recurring nightmare of you making waffles and just getting waffle batter everywhere because it's hard with a regular waffle iron. You pour the batter on and it usually spills over the sides. Yes, And I just I keep waking up in a cold sweat because I'm I just see you just waffle batter everywhere, just a disaster, and you're cleaning it up and then the waffle's burning, and like you know, it happened once, And I thought, oh, that's a weird dream. Sure after six years.

Until completely open, kind of do a doing my best to keep it a complete surprise. Oh my god. Yeah, this is a beautiful waffle maker. Yeah, a vertical waffle maker, which a vertical waffle maker I'm not even familiar with. Well, the reason that I got it for you is because I've been having this recurring nightmare of you making waffles and just getting waffle batter everywhere because it's hard with a regular waffle iron. You pour the batter on and it usually spills over the sides. Yes, And I just I keep waking up in a cold sweat because I'm I just see you just waffle batter everywhere, just a disaster, and you're cleaning it up and then the waffle's burning, and like you know, it happened once, And I thought, oh, that's a weird dream. Sure after six years.

Pretty consistently every night of dreaming, and I've known you like what three right?

Pretty consistently every night of dreaming, and I've known you like what three right?

So yeah, and I was probably a kind of a stranger in a dream.

So yeah, and I was probably a kind of a stranger in a dream.

Initially, Yeah, absolutely, I was like, well, that's weird.

Initially, Yeah, absolutely, I was like, well, that's weird.

Why would I dream about that? Just yeah, So I found this on the Williams Norma website. It's a vertical waffle maker. You poor the batter in on top so that it doesn't spill out the sides.

Why would I dream about that? Just yeah, So I found this on the Williams Norma website. It's a vertical waffle maker. You poor the batter in on top so that it doesn't spill out the sides.

Wow. Yeah, you can then kind of like a coin slot almost, yes.

Wow. Yeah, you can then kind of like a coin slot almost, yes.

Exactly, and then you know, when it's done, you can open it up and the waffle comes out.

Exactly, and then you know, when it's done, you can open it up and the waffle comes out.

And you do you own one of these? No? You don't.

And you do you own one of these? No? You don't.

No, it's just this dream where that's kind of just been this image of the waffle maker for that.

No, it's just this dream where that's kind of just been this image of the waffle maker for that.

Kind of thing. I would hate to own something like that. But I thought, if I want to sleep tonight or any night, I need to make this. I need to fix this. Right.

Kind of thing. I would hate to own something like that. But I thought, if I want to sleep tonight or any night, I need to make this. I need to fix this. Right.

It's hard to say what effect this is going to have on your dreams moving forward, whether it will continue, and maybe a new element will be introduced to the dream. I mean, God knows what message I was trying to get through to you or whoever's places dream in your.

It's hard to say what effect this is going to have on your dreams moving forward, whether it will continue, and maybe a new element will be introduced to the dream. I mean, God knows what message I was trying to get through to you or whoever's places dream in your.

Head, right, yeah?

Head, right, yeah?

I mean, were there any other elements of the dream that you could remember? Or is it I just remember hating you so much? And then when I met you, I remember I hated you, and I was like, why do I hate Why do I hate him?

I mean, were there any other elements of the dream that you could remember? Or is it I just remember hating you so much? And then when I met you, I remember I hated you, and I was like, why do I hate Why do I hate him?

We've never met before, And then I was like, oh, it's the dream.

We've never met before, And then I was like, oh, it's the dream.

I hate him because of the dream.

I hate him because of the dream.

And then eventually I sort of was able to separate the you know, the nightmare from right, the nightmare.

And then eventually I sort of was able to separate the you know, the nightmare from right, the nightmare.

Right and now reality you're just a strong dislike yes, yeah, and the dream continues, I imagine it.

Right and now reality you're just a strong dislike yes, yeah, and the dream continues, I imagine it.

Yes, yes.

Yes, yes.

Is it an increasing hatred or just kind of a baseline, Well.

Is it an increasing hatred or just kind of a baseline, Well.

Now it's sort of comforting, you know, it's a comforting hatred. It's toxic. It's a codependent hatred, you know.

Now it's sort of comforting, you know, it's a comforting hatred. It's toxic. It's a codependent hatred, you know.

Yeah, and that one without that hatred, I mean, you're going to be completely off balanced.

Yeah, and that one without that hatred, I mean, you're going to be completely off balanced.

We'll see.

We'll see.

I mean that's I need something to break up the monotony of you know, this pandemic life. So maybe not hating you could be just what I need shake things up.

I mean that's I need something to break up the monotony of you know, this pandemic life. So maybe not hating you could be just what I need shake things up.

Do you own the waffle maker of any type? I don't want to like a waffle.

Do you own the waffle maker of any type? I don't want to like a waffle.

I love a waffle, but I would never I don't have a lot of counter space, you know. I live in New York, right, I already have a kitchen aid mixer, I have a Vita mix I have a toaster, my like crsee I have. You know, There's just there's no counter space. There's no cabinet space, you know, right, what are you.

I love a waffle, but I would never I don't have a lot of counter space, you know. I live in New York, right, I already have a kitchen aid mixer, I have a Vita mix I have a toaster, my like crsee I have. You know, There's just there's no counter space. There's no cabinet space, you know, right, what are you.

Making in your kitchen aid? So far?

Making in your kitchen aid? So far?

I have only made one batch of cookies. And when was that? That was like two months ago? Oh okay, so recently. This is a new question. But I bought the kitchen Aid mixer like six months ago and I've used it once. How was your I realized in the for this exact cookie recipe it would have been easier to mix my hand. Actually, it was just like a simple chocolate chip recipe, oatmeal chocolate chip recipe, and.

I have only made one batch of cookies. And when was that? That was like two months ago? Oh okay, so recently. This is a new question. But I bought the kitchen Aid mixer like six months ago and I've used it once. How was your I realized in the for this exact cookie recipe it would have been easier to mix my hand. Actually, it was just like a simple chocolate chip recipe, oatmeal chocolate chip recipe, and.

There was just no need for the mixer. But I think a mixer mikes the butter up.

There was just no need for the mixer. But I think a mixer mikes the butter up.

Sorry, this is for the listeners who are falling asleep their cars.

Sorry, this is for the listeners who are falling asleep their cars.

Okay, okay, okay.

Okay, okay, okay.

The listener loves a cookie recipe discussion. Okay, who doesn't. If somebody has a problem with that, I don't know. I don't know what to tell anyone.

The listener loves a cookie recipe discussion. Okay, who doesn't. If somebody has a problem with that, I don't know. I don't know what to tell anyone.

That's fair. Oh so it was a you. It felt like overkill for you. Yeah.

That's fair. Oh so it was a you. It felt like overkill for you. Yeah.

I bought it originally because I wanted the like I made merangue once and like a vegan meringue, and my hands and arms hurt so much.

I bought it originally because I wanted the like I made merangue once and like a vegan meringue, and my hands and arms hurt so much.

I thought, you know what I need to do.

I thought, you know what I need to do.

I need to spend hundreds of dollars to make sure I never feel this pain. In three years when I make this thing again, but I need to spend it right now.

I need to spend hundreds of dollars to make sure I never feel this pain. In three years when I make this thing again, but I need to spend it right now.

Do you think you'll make vegan moraine again?

Do you think you'll make vegan moraine again?

Maybe it's just not fun to make stuff for myself, you know what I mean? Right, Like, maybe when I can see people again. The fun of making things for me is people being like, oh my.

Maybe it's just not fun to make stuff for myself, you know what I mean? Right, Like, maybe when I can see people again. The fun of making things for me is people being like, oh my.

God, you know, I can't believe you were able to.

God, you know, I can't believe you were able to.

Yeah, sorry, I had extra you know, I would have made this nice for just me, but I thought, why not bring it?

Yeah, sorry, I had extra you know, I would have made this nice for just me, but I thought, why not bring it?

Well?

Well?

I think a kitchen aid is also just kind of nice looking. It's just a nice thing to have on your counter, right, Yeah, absolutely, It's a status symbol. And I grew up, you know, poor trashy.

I think a kitchen aid is also just kind of nice looking. It's just a nice thing to have on your counter, right, Yeah, absolutely, It's a status symbol. And I grew up, you know, poor trashy.

I say, like I was Niles Crane, like a young Niles Crane, but in Roseanne's house, you know.

I say, like I was Niles Crane, like a young Niles Crane, but in Roseanne's house, you know.

Right, that makes perfect sense. Yeah.

Right, that makes perfect sense. Yeah.

So I just always, you know, wanted things like a KitchenAid mixer or to listen to NPR, right of course.

So I just always, you know, wanted things like a KitchenAid mixer or to listen to NPR, right of course.

Yeah, And so I'm sorry to hear you've only used the kitchen aid once. Do you feel like you got it kind of burned you and you're just not going to go back to it.

Yeah, And so I'm sorry to hear you've only used the kitchen aid once. Do you feel like you got it kind of burned you and you're just not going to go back to it.

I really just hate washing things, and you know, in New York.

I really just hate washing things, and you know, in New York.

Do you have a dishwasher? Do you have a dishwasher? But you know those things aren't dishwashed. You know they're supposed to be hand washed. You know, the bowl, the bowl, I think so yeah, the metal book.

Do you have a dishwasher? Do you have a dishwasher? But you know those things aren't dishwashed. You know they're supposed to be hand washed. You know, the bowl, the bowl, I think so yeah, the metal book.

I don't know that I'll go through the dishwasher three times a week. I mean, maybe it's about it. Maybe that's why that mole is getting so much bigger.

I don't know that I'll go through the dishwasher three times a week. I mean, maybe it's about it. Maybe that's why that mole is getting so much bigger.

Every time I wash it, I feel kind of a pulse in my leg and I just the heat radiating down. But I've just ignored it. But it's worth it. If it saves me an extra ten minutes, I mean, turning into.

Every time I wash it, I feel kind of a pulse in my leg and I just the heat radiating down. But I've just ignored it. But it's worth it. If it saves me an extra ten minutes, I mean, turning into.

A monster, maybe I will cool. You can absolutely.

A monster, maybe I will cool. You can absolutely.

Maybe this is just the Kitchen Aid Hotline podcast at this point, but I hope so. I mean, I can tell you I recently had a problem. It wasn't mine wasn't mixing correctly.

Maybe this is just the Kitchen Aid Hotline podcast at this point, but I hope so. I mean, I can tell you I recently had a problem. It wasn't mine wasn't mixing correctly.

I looked it up. You have to drop a.

I looked it up. You have to drop a.

Dime in the bowl and mix it around, and if the dime does it's this weird old trick that like, if the mixer doesn't move the dime enough, it means it's not adjusted properly. I know a lot about a kitchen Aid mixer.

Dime in the bowl and mix it around, and if the dime does it's this weird old trick that like, if the mixer doesn't move the dime enough, it means it's not adjusted properly. I know a lot about a kitchen Aid mixer.

Wow, is this like some secret blog like like KitchenAid. Queen's like like, listen, honey, we've been around, Like I love those kinds of It's everywhere, Okay.

Wow, is this like some secret blog like like KitchenAid. Queen's like like, listen, honey, we've been around, Like I love those kinds of It's everywhere, Okay.

I think like literally, Kitchen Aid, I think like the company line is like, well, if it's not mixing properly put it for whatever reason. A dime is the exact object that you need at the bottom of the bowl to make sure it's correct.

I think like literally, Kitchen Aid, I think like the company line is like, well, if it's not mixing properly put it for whatever reason. A dime is the exact object that you need at the bottom of the bowl to make sure it's correct.

That's nickel erase chair. That is total? Do you book much at home?

That's nickel erase chair. That is total? Do you book much at home?

I like to bake. I like baking.

I like to bake. I like baking.

It's prettier, you know, you get like a pretty thing at the end. And there's too much intuition in cooking, and I don't trust my intuition.

It's prettier, you know, you get like a pretty thing at the end. And there's too much intuition in cooking, and I don't trust my intuition.

What do you like to bake them?

What do you like to bake them?

Well, I'm vegan I and so I make a lot of just like vegan things.

Well, I'm vegan I and so I make a lot of just like vegan things.

And I made a.

And I made a.

Key lime cake with Italian meringue butter cream frosting.

Key lime cake with Italian meringue butter cream frosting.

Oh that sounds incredible and like a.

Oh that sounds incredible and like a.

Gram cracker cream cheese filling. It was way too sweet. It was too much. Oh okay, sure, Like that wasn't the recipe at all. I just sort of imagined like, oh, this would be I bet this would be amazing.

Gram cracker cream cheese filling. It was way too sweet. It was too much. Oh okay, sure, Like that wasn't the recipe at all. I just sort of imagined like, oh, this would be I bet this would be amazing.

Did it look nice? It looked great, It looked great.

Did it look nice? It looked great, It looked great.

It took me two days to make it because I had to repeat every step twice because I've you know, messed something up every step along the way, like the temperature of the sugar for the meringue, you know, using the wrong amount of flower, you know that sort of thing.

It took me two days to make it because I had to repeat every step twice because I've you know, messed something up every step along the way, like the temperature of the sugar for the meringue, you know, using the wrong amount of flower, you know that sort of thing.

Did you in high school have cooking classes or that sort of thing?

Did you in high school have cooking classes or that sort of thing?

You didn't, did you?

You didn't, did you?

I took so many cooking I mean it was essentially I think it was just a failure of the Utah public school system that I think I took a foods they were called foods classes. I would take one of probably every semester and learned absolutely nothing.

I took so many cooking I mean it was essentially I think it was just a failure of the Utah public school system that I think I took a foods they were called foods classes. I would take one of probably every semester and learned absolutely nothing.

Hollmeck was gone by the time I got to high school. There was wood shop. I had to make a bird house. But some this guy, Branden Lever, who came from a very big Apostolic Lutheran family, made the birdhouse for me, and that was a sexual awakening for me.

Hollmeck was gone by the time I got to high school. There was wood shop. I had to make a bird house. But some this guy, Branden Lever, who came from a very big Apostolic Lutheran family, made the birdhouse for me, and that was a sexual awakening for me.

Of course. It was I was like, why do I love that he's making my birdhouse for me?

Of course. It was I was like, why do I love that he's making my birdhouse for me?

Like?

Like?

Why do I why is my face read from this? Yeah? Did you take other elect classes in high school? Just like I took a children's theater class, a children's theater class. Well, this was like in a bigger school that I transferred to my junior year, and there.

Why do I why is my face read from this? Yeah? Did you take other elect classes in high school? Just like I took a children's theater class, a children's theater class. Well, this was like in a bigger school that I transferred to my junior year, and there.

Was like a theater class that was right before lunch and we would take a children's story, improvise a show, said it, and then during lunch we took the show to different grade schools.

Was like a theater class that was right before lunch and we would take a children's story, improvise a show, said it, and then during lunch we took the show to different grade schools.

Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, it's very sweet.

Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, it's very sweet.

Yeah, I loved it. I felt like, well, we're on tour.