Welcome back to another bonus episode of Big Business. In case you didn't know, I come out with a main episode every week and a bonus, And in today's bonus, I'm going to be chatting about two things, managing burnout and setting healthy boundaries.

Welcome back to another bonus episode of Big Business. In case you didn't know, I come out with a main episode every week and a bonus, And in today's bonus, I'm going to be chatting about two things, managing burnout and setting healthy boundaries.

For yourself as a business owner.

For yourself as a business owner.

And I've got to give a shout out to Alisha from the Petal Collective who DMed me on my Big Business Instagram account with these questions. So question one is how do you manage the burnout period, especially when your business is new and you feel like you need to go, go go twenty four seven? And then her second question is Okay, Xander thinks we just need to answer that one first. How do you manage a burnout period, especially when your business is new and you feel like you need to go, go go twenty.

And I've got to give a shout out to Alisha from the Petal Collective who DMed me on my Big Business Instagram account with these questions. So question one is how do you manage the burnout period, especially when your business is new and you feel like you need to go, go go twenty four seven? And then her second question is Okay, Xander thinks we just need to answer that one first. How do you manage a burnout period, especially when your business is new and you feel like you need to go, go go twenty.

Four to seven.

Four to seven.

Well, I like to keep it real here on Big Business, Alisha, and I'm going to tell you straight away now, even when your business isn't new, you're gonna feel that way. I'm eight years in and I still feel that pressure of go, go go all the time. If anything, I think the bigger your business gets and the older it gets, the more you feel that pressure. I know that's a really kind of negative sounding thing to say, but I keep it real. When it comes to business, it never fucking gets easier if I'm being completely honest with you. And I know that the way that I post about my business on social media, especially in my reels and tiktoks, it can make it seem so fun and easy, but you've got to remember when it comes to tiktoks and Instagram reels, I'm trying to entertain people. You know. I'm not going to get on my Instagram reels and say, like all the fucked up shit that I'm dealing with at work, number one, because that would be extremely unprofessional.

Well, I like to keep it real here on Big Business, Alisha, and I'm going to tell you straight away now, even when your business isn't new, you're gonna feel that way. I'm eight years in and I still feel that pressure of go, go go all the time. If anything, I think the bigger your business gets and the older it gets, the more you feel that pressure. I know that's a really kind of negative sounding thing to say, but I keep it real. When it comes to business, it never fucking gets easier if I'm being completely honest with you. And I know that the way that I post about my business on social media, especially in my reels and tiktoks, it can make it seem so fun and easy, but you've got to remember when it comes to tiktoks and Instagram reels, I'm trying to entertain people. You know. I'm not going to get on my Instagram reels and say, like all the fucked up shit that I'm dealing with at work, number one, because that would be extremely unprofessional.

And number two, I don't want my social media.

And number two, I don't want my social media.

To be a negative space or to make anyone have negative vibes coming from my content. Like when I'm creating my content about my business, I want to inspire people. I want to entertain them. I want to give them something to laugh at. So that's why I don't really.

To be a negative space or to make anyone have negative vibes coming from my content. Like when I'm creating my content about my business, I want to inspire people. I want to entertain them. I want to give them something to laugh at. So that's why I don't really.

Talk about the negative shit on social media.

Talk about the negative shit on social media.

I also, I just feel like it's a bad Is it like a bad omen?

I also, I just feel like it's a bad Is it like a bad omen?

I don't know if that's the right word.

I don't know if that's the right word.

I'm looking for, like to put like negative stuff out onto the internet. But that's why I love having this podcast, because it's here where I can kind of talk about some of the more challenging parts of business, and I feel like this is a little safe space where I can do so. But how do you manage the burnout period? I think it's just being mindful of when you are feeling burnt out, not gonna lie. I haven't really spoken about this much on social media, definitely not. Another reason why I don't talk about this on social media is I've got seventy employees, and I'm really mindful of what I say on my social media and how they might portray me. But twenty twenty five has been absolutely.

I'm looking for, like to put like negative stuff out onto the internet. But that's why I love having this podcast, because it's here where I can kind of talk about some of the more challenging parts of business, and I feel like this is a little safe space where I can do so. But how do you manage the burnout period? I think it's just being mindful of when you are feeling burnt out, not gonna lie. I haven't really spoken about this much on social media, definitely not. Another reason why I don't talk about this on social media is I've got seventy employees, and I'm really mindful of what I say on my social media and how they might portray me. But twenty twenty five has been absolutely.

Fucked for me. It's just pissing himself.

Fucked for me. It's just pissing himself.

Like we went into this year and first week back it was like shit was just.

Like we went into this year and first week back it was like shit was just.

Hitting the fan, left, right, and center.

Hitting the fan, left, right, and center.

And we've had challenge after challenge thrown at us, like internally within Fate, and it's just felt like I haven't been able to catch my breath yet, or I haven't been able to actually start working on anything that I want to be working on because we've had to be putting out so many fires at Fate and like that's just the reality of business. And of course I'm not going to go and make reels being like this week is been fucked at work and like that's why I don't get on my stories and say, fuck, I'm really struggling at work this week because I'm worried that my staff are going to fucking see it and go was it me? Like, you know, like that's something I'm so mindful of, but I'll happily vent about it here. And like, ever since we've come back in twenty twenty five, I won't lie. I've felt extremely burnt out. I've been saying aj like I'm really fucking struggling because we've got all this stuff going on at work, which is mainly to do just with like people, which is always a thing in business, Like if you're managing a lot of people, it's going to be really difficult to make every single one of them extremely happy. Like you get a room full of seventy people and good luck making them all exactly the same level of happiness. And I think it's just about being mindful when you are feeling burnt out, knowing when you need to take a little break. Writing your thoughts and feelings down. I know for me, like I can lay in bed at night and just have my thoughts racing about everything that I've got to do the next day. And I love the tip of just going and writing it all out on a piece of paper, like just do like a mental dump onto a piece of paper. And I think it's also important to remind yourself, like when you're going through like a stressful time at work or you're feeling burnt out, it's not that fucking serious at the end of the day. That's what I always say, Like if we're dealing with something at work and I'm working with someone and the distress levels are high, I just think it's not that fucking big of a deal. At the end of the day. You'll always figure it out no matter what the issue is. And I think it's just important to take time for yourself express how you're feeling. Like I said to AJ, Fuck, I'm feeling really burnt out from everyone at work this week. I feel like I haven't been able to focus on any tasks that I want to do because I feel like I'm being pulled back from all of these setbacks. And just know that you're going to get through it and you're going to feel better. Like I'm feeling really good now, but you know, a few weeks back, I was like, fuck this year and it's only February and you're going to go through those waves. I say these all the time, and I hate saying cliche sayings, but nothing good comes easy, especially in business.

And we've had challenge after challenge thrown at us, like internally within Fate, and it's just felt like I haven't been able to catch my breath yet, or I haven't been able to actually start working on anything that I want to be working on because we've had to be putting out so many fires at Fate and like that's just the reality of business. And of course I'm not going to go and make reels being like this week is been fucked at work and like that's why I don't get on my stories and say, fuck, I'm really struggling at work this week because I'm worried that my staff are going to fucking see it and go was it me? Like, you know, like that's something I'm so mindful of, but I'll happily vent about it here. And like, ever since we've come back in twenty twenty five, I won't lie. I've felt extremely burnt out. I've been saying aj like I'm really fucking struggling because we've got all this stuff going on at work, which is mainly to do just with like people, which is always a thing in business, Like if you're managing a lot of people, it's going to be really difficult to make every single one of them extremely happy. Like you get a room full of seventy people and good luck making them all exactly the same level of happiness. And I think it's just about being mindful when you are feeling burnt out, knowing when you need to take a little break. Writing your thoughts and feelings down. I know for me, like I can lay in bed at night and just have my thoughts racing about everything that I've got to do the next day. And I love the tip of just going and writing it all out on a piece of paper, like just do like a mental dump onto a piece of paper. And I think it's also important to remind yourself, like when you're going through like a stressful time at work or you're feeling burnt out, it's not that fucking serious at the end of the day. That's what I always say, Like if we're dealing with something at work and I'm working with someone and the distress levels are high, I just think it's not that fucking big of a deal. At the end of the day. You'll always figure it out no matter what the issue is. And I think it's just important to take time for yourself express how you're feeling. Like I said to AJ, Fuck, I'm feeling really burnt out from everyone at work this week. I feel like I haven't been able to focus on any tasks that I want to do because I feel like I'm being pulled back from all of these setbacks. And just know that you're going to get through it and you're going to feel better. Like I'm feeling really good now, but you know, a few weeks back, I was like, fuck this year and it's only February and you're going to go through those waves. I say these all the time, and I hate saying cliche sayings, but nothing good comes easy, especially in business.

You recently took a little bit of time off and whenever seas. Did that help with your overseas? Did you go overseas?

You recently took a little bit of time off and whenever seas. Did that help with your overseas? Did you go overseas?

No?

No?

Oh, where'd you go?

Oh, where'd you go?

Queensland?

Queensland?

Oh? I thought you were in like the bloody Bahamas or wit Ah. Well, you recently took some time off and away. Did that help you with kind of like refreshing yourself?

Oh? I thought you were in like the bloody Bahamas or wit Ah. Well, you recently took some time off and away. Did that help you with kind of like refreshing yourself?

Definitely?

Definitely?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And AJ and I I don't think we've ever gone away in February before, Like it felt so bid Like usually it's.

And AJ and I I don't think we've ever gone away in February before, Like it felt so bid Like usually it's.

Like, I don't think I've ever seen you besides you went away for a wedding. This entire year, you've never gone away. Yeah, I've seen you take a break.

Like, I don't think I've ever seen you besides you went away for a wedding. This entire year, you've never gone away. Yeah, I've seen you take a break.

Yeah, And I think like you need to have guilt free breaks, and that's something that I really want to focus on more this year. And I definitely have the mentality of like if I go away from work, like what's going to happen. Everything's going to fall apart, like because you just put that pressure on yourself as a business owner. But we took that week off and we were away from work. In saying that when we left, you know, I'm messaging all the group chats like you can contact us at any point, like it doesn't matter if anything goes wrong, just send us a message. And I was still talking to everyone of the week that I was away. But I was away, you know, and I tried not to have that guilty feeling of like I'm not in the office today kind of thing.

Yeah, And I think like you need to have guilt free breaks, and that's something that I really want to focus on more this year. And I definitely have the mentality of like if I go away from work, like what's going to happen. Everything's going to fall apart, like because you just put that pressure on yourself as a business owner. But we took that week off and we were away from work. In saying that when we left, you know, I'm messaging all the group chats like you can contact us at any point, like it doesn't matter if anything goes wrong, just send us a message. And I was still talking to everyone of the week that I was away. But I was away, you know, and I tried not to have that guilty feeling of like I'm not in the office today kind of thing.

And it's something that I'm working on.

And it's something that I'm working on.

But to answer question like how do you manage the burnout period, you just have to give yourself time, take a break if you need it, and know that it's always going to be there tomorrow. You know, you don't need to fix everything in that moment and you're gonna go through waves of burnout. It's just all about taking time for yourself and just prioritizing yourself. And this leads me into your next question. She said that she was listening to a previous episode and she resonated with the sentiment of setting healthy boundaries for founders to create a RESTful and restorative nighttime routine. But when I work eight to four and then spend four till seven with my family doing all the family things, I put my phone in my bedroom, and then all the time I have for my businesses from eight to ten PM, it's hard not to be on a device.

But to answer question like how do you manage the burnout period, you just have to give yourself time, take a break if you need it, and know that it's always going to be there tomorrow. You know, you don't need to fix everything in that moment and you're gonna go through waves of burnout. It's just all about taking time for yourself and just prioritizing yourself. And this leads me into your next question. She said that she was listening to a previous episode and she resonated with the sentiment of setting healthy boundaries for founders to create a RESTful and restorative nighttime routine. But when I work eight to four and then spend four till seven with my family doing all the family things, I put my phone in my bedroom, and then all the time I have for my businesses from eight to ten PM, it's hard not to be on a device.

It's so true.

It's so true.

I actually said to AJ last week, and we're going to try to start doing it from this week because I've been in Sydney for like the last four days. At the time that I'm recording this into bed at night, like after we've had dinner and like watched the show or whatever, and then I think that's when we both have our time to just like scroll and like, you know, that's like our unwind time. But I said to him, I feel like we should implement a rule where once we're getting into bed, like you get into bed to be in bed, and there's no more devices, or at most maybe we can put a movie on the laptop, but no more phone time in bed. And he said, like, I so agree, because I don't think it's doing us any favors to be on our phones and then you are flicking in between apps, and then you'll open your emails and then I'll be in my DMS replying to people, and like, you're literally working still in bed, and I don't think that's a good thing at all. And I totally get what you mean where you're saying that you're working all day and spending your afternoon with your family, and then you feel like at night is the only time you have the time to kind of do the things that you want to do for your business. And I'm very much the same in my position. I saw Davy who owns the Udie you all know that business. I'm sure he posted a video like a few weeks back now saying that when you're the CEO of the company, you are the filter of the shit, and I love that. I'm like, you're so so correct. That's what being a CEO is. And a lot of days I feel as if though my whole workday is spent being the filter for the shit, so that then by the time I've I'm done with the workday and all my staff have gone home, that's when I have the time to work on my business. And it can be tough because you can be working, you know, up until eleven o'clock at night or whatever. I think again, it's just about setting a boundary with yourself and even like time blocking. I definitely do work at night, but I also kind of like enjoy doing bits of work at night. But I think it's important that you're not doing it all night every night. Maybe it's saying on Tuesday nights, from this hour to this hour, I am going to do this and being really productive with that time. I don't think you should be like cutting yourself off completely from working at night, because I'm not gonna lie. I think a lot of my success has come from me grinding at night and getting all that creative work done. But I don't have an exact answer for your question, which is how do you set and manage healthy boundaries. I think it's something that we're always constantly working on and can always be better at, and I think it's just something that you'll learn eventually with time.

I actually said to AJ last week, and we're going to try to start doing it from this week because I've been in Sydney for like the last four days. At the time that I'm recording this into bed at night, like after we've had dinner and like watched the show or whatever, and then I think that's when we both have our time to just like scroll and like, you know, that's like our unwind time. But I said to him, I feel like we should implement a rule where once we're getting into bed, like you get into bed to be in bed, and there's no more devices, or at most maybe we can put a movie on the laptop, but no more phone time in bed. And he said, like, I so agree, because I don't think it's doing us any favors to be on our phones and then you are flicking in between apps, and then you'll open your emails and then I'll be in my DMS replying to people, and like, you're literally working still in bed, and I don't think that's a good thing at all. And I totally get what you mean where you're saying that you're working all day and spending your afternoon with your family, and then you feel like at night is the only time you have the time to kind of do the things that you want to do for your business. And I'm very much the same in my position. I saw Davy who owns the Udie you all know that business. I'm sure he posted a video like a few weeks back now saying that when you're the CEO of the company, you are the filter of the shit, and I love that. I'm like, you're so so correct. That's what being a CEO is. And a lot of days I feel as if though my whole workday is spent being the filter for the shit, so that then by the time I've I'm done with the workday and all my staff have gone home, that's when I have the time to work on my business. And it can be tough because you can be working, you know, up until eleven o'clock at night or whatever. I think again, it's just about setting a boundary with yourself and even like time blocking. I definitely do work at night, but I also kind of like enjoy doing bits of work at night. But I think it's important that you're not doing it all night every night. Maybe it's saying on Tuesday nights, from this hour to this hour, I am going to do this and being really productive with that time. I don't think you should be like cutting yourself off completely from working at night, because I'm not gonna lie. I think a lot of my success has come from me grinding at night and getting all that creative work done. But I don't have an exact answer for your question, which is how do you set and manage healthy boundaries. I think it's something that we're always constantly working on and can always be better at, and I think it's just something that you'll learn eventually with time.

I actually took a lot away from the piece of advice that just passed on about limiting your screen time, and I've implemented parts of it into my daily routine now, and especially now when like there's so much like doom and gloom on social media you open up your phone and it's everything's all on, like the political climate at the moment. It's a lot when you wake up in the morning and you jump on your phone and you're seeing that. And I was noticing that I was coming into work and I was so frazzled and already filled with like negativity that I seen from my phone that it was actually affecting how I was throughout the day, how I interacted with people, like my productivity, how I was tackling tasks at work. So now what I do is when I wake up in the morning, all I do on my phone is turn my alarm off and I do not go on social media. I don't check any notifications until I get to get to work. And it's completely changed the way I operate throughout the day. So like, I'm feeling less burnt out because of it, because my mind isn't focused on that and it's not thinking about those things yes when I get to work. So maybe that's something that anyone listening you can start implementing to help with that with some burnout. It's not going to help everything, no, but I know it's helped me. Yeah, And it also feels fucking great not to be in my phone.

I actually took a lot away from the piece of advice that just passed on about limiting your screen time, and I've implemented parts of it into my daily routine now, and especially now when like there's so much like doom and gloom on social media you open up your phone and it's everything's all on, like the political climate at the moment. It's a lot when you wake up in the morning and you jump on your phone and you're seeing that. And I was noticing that I was coming into work and I was so frazzled and already filled with like negativity that I seen from my phone that it was actually affecting how I was throughout the day, how I interacted with people, like my productivity, how I was tackling tasks at work. So now what I do is when I wake up in the morning, all I do on my phone is turn my alarm off and I do not go on social media. I don't check any notifications until I get to get to work. And it's completely changed the way I operate throughout the day. So like, I'm feeling less burnt out because of it, because my mind isn't focused on that and it's not thinking about those things yes when I get to work. So maybe that's something that anyone listening you can start implementing to help with that with some burnout. It's not going to help everything, no, but I know it's helped me. Yeah, And it also feels fucking great not to be in my phone.

Yeah, well, I'm so excited, Like literally this week, I'm going home after today after not being home for the last three or four nights, and like, I honestly want to try like no phones in bed.

Yeah, well, I'm so excited, Like literally this week, I'm going home after today after not being home for the last three or four nights, and like, I honestly want to try like no phones in bed.

Because it's our thing.

Because it's our thing.

Like it's like you're scrolling until your past out, like you're watching tiktoks until you can't keep your eyes open anymore.

Like it's like you're scrolling until your past out, like you're watching tiktoks until you can't keep your eyes open anymore.

We both do it, and I'm.

We both do it, and I'm.

Like, this can't be good for us, and like, surely it's not giving us the best sleep that we can get. Whereas like I want to get in bed and we'll either say, like no technology at all, we might just talk and fall asleep, or we might like put a movie on the laptop and we're watching it together. We're not like going to put a movie on the laptop and then both be scrolling at the same time, because it just can't be good for us, like for our health, for our sleep. And I'm really looking forward to it. But thank you so much, Alicia for sending in your questions. When it comes down to it, managing burnout and you know, managing how much time you're working at night, it's something that you just need to work out for yourself, and I get the importance of needing to work at night when that is the only time that you have.

Like, this can't be good for us, and like, surely it's not giving us the best sleep that we can get. Whereas like I want to get in bed and we'll either say, like no technology at all, we might just talk and fall asleep, or we might like put a movie on the laptop and we're watching it together. We're not like going to put a movie on the laptop and then both be scrolling at the same time, because it just can't be good for us, like for our health, for our sleep. And I'm really looking forward to it. But thank you so much, Alicia for sending in your questions. When it comes down to it, managing burnout and you know, managing how much time you're working at night, it's something that you just need to work out for yourself, and I get the importance of needing to work at night when that is the only time that you have.

But just set those boundaries.

But just set those boundaries.

With yourself, limit the time that you're doing it, and don't stretch yourself because yeah, you don't want to end up in a burnout period. But please know you're not alone when it comes to feeling burn and burnout.

With yourself, limit the time that you're doing it, and don't stretch yourself because yeah, you don't want to end up in a burnout period. But please know you're not alone when it comes to feeling burn and burnout.

We all go.

We all go.

Through it, all of us. Like you don't even have to be a business owner. We all experience burnout. Xander will be the first tell.

Through it, all of us. Like you don't even have to be a business owner. We all experience burnout. Xander will be the first tell.

You that I'm the most bloody burnt out.

You that I'm the most bloody burnt out.

That isn't your middle name burnt out?

That isn't your middle name burnt out?

Oh yeah, Xander, burnt out.

Oh yeah, Xander, burnt out.

Cross Yeah yeah.

Cross Yeah yeah.

But thank you so much Alicia for sending in your questions

But thank you so much Alicia for sending in your questions