It's that time of year when everyone, well almost everyone is dreaming of premiership success for their club. Come a Saturday, September twenty seventh, later this year, welcome to the twenty twenty five AFL Today Season Prediction Show. I'm your host Alex Donnelly and I'm my far right. Your far left. If you're watching on YouTube, is someone who's not dreaming of premiership success. He just wants a final win. It's Essendon Van Marcus Barzan.

It's that time of year when everyone, well almost everyone is dreaming of premiership success for their club. Come a Saturday, September twenty seventh, later this year, welcome to the twenty twenty five AFL Today Season Prediction Show. I'm your host Alex Donnelly and I'm my far right. Your far left. If you're watching on YouTube, is someone who's not dreaming of premiership success. He just wants a final win. It's Essendon Van Marcus Barzan.

I welcome in. Marcus.

I welcome in. Marcus.

Or may not be dreaming about a premiership, but I am dreaming about CaCO and Caddy, about forward line.

Or may not be dreaming about a premiership, but I am dreaming about CaCO and Caddy, about forward line.

That hell good, that's very fair. I'm getting sur at first as well. That we go on the far and then in the middle. He's over the honorable losses. He wants results from his beloved North Melbourne.

That hell good, that's very fair. I'm getting sur at first as well. That we go on the far and then in the middle. He's over the honorable losses. He wants results from his beloved North Melbourne.

It's Lee Mcallian. Hello, stats guy.

It's Lee Mcallian. Hello, stats guy.

Yeah, let's go PREMI six, we'll talk about premiership So North twenty twenty.

Yeah, let's go PREMI six, we'll talk about premiership So North twenty twenty.

Five, let's let's do it.

Five, let's let's do it.

Nor IFLW show is coming back later this year, that's when the North Melbourne success will come.

Nor IFLW show is coming back later this year, that's when the North Melbourne success will come.

I just want to win in like the first month, just to make me feel.

I just want to win in like the first month, just to make me feel.

Something one within you and you were talking up against the door one.

Something one within you and you were talking up against the door one.

Well you can you?

Well you can you?

Yeah, Alex has got in my head with that. I'm a bit confident for stupid reason.

Yeah, Alex has got in my head with that. I'm a bit confident for stupid reason.

Remember when I said two years ago you were unbeatable in round one against West Coast and what happens toat's.

Remember when I said two years ago you were unbeatable in round one against West Coast and what happens toat's.

Guy one the mighty power of West Coast.

Guy one the mighty power of West Coast.

I still have that photo on my phone from you with your scarf.

I still have that photo on my phone from you with your scarf.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The amount of times I've set my mates like picks after a game of just like maybe after spicy, but.

The amount of times I've set my mates like picks after a game of just like maybe after spicy, but.

Six times in the past two years, guys, Yeah, many times.

Six times in the past two years, guys, Yeah, many times.

Anyway, as said, this is the season prediction show, so we've got your ladder predictions, final picks, award winners, your biggest surprises and flops and everything else that you can think of here on the AFL Today Show. Now, make sure you are following the AFL Today Show on x, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. It's AFL Today AU and I think it's Aussie Rules Today on Facebook and of course on YouTube. Just type in AFL Today everything ll come up there. Make sure you subscribe, hit the notifications bellt because we'll be doing a bunch of footy content all season long. Yes, now, stats guy before we get into the season preview, let's rip into the news. This is your area or the news guy. I'm just making it up as I go.

Anyway, as said, this is the season prediction show, so we've got your ladder predictions, final picks, award winners, your biggest surprises and flops and everything else that you can think of here on the AFL Today Show. Now, make sure you are following the AFL Today Show on x, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. It's AFL Today AU and I think it's Aussie Rules Today on Facebook and of course on YouTube. Just type in AFL Today everything ll come up there. Make sure you subscribe, hit the notifications bellt because we'll be doing a bunch of footy content all season long. Yes, now, stats guy before we get into the season preview, let's rip into the news. This is your area or the news guy. I'm just making it up as I go.

I'm happy to that I did write some of these in the first one off of the list because this is just really weird to me, justin Longmo's contracting session. So obviously the Freo coach, just I am still confused at wording.

I'm happy to that I did write some of these in the first one off of the list because this is just really weird to me, justin Longmo's contracting session. So obviously the Freo coach, just I am still confused at wording.

The wording of it. Do you you know a bit more about this than either, but it's a bit weird.

The wording of it. Do you you know a bit more about this than either, but it's a bit weird.

Yeah, So it's not really an extension because I think he was out of contract either this year or end of twenty twenty six. But basically they've changed to like an employer type contract, which is like what we are on here, where basically they're like, yeah, performance review time, you're not up to snuff, You're we're making the coaching position redundant.

Yeah, So it's not really an extension because I think he was out of contract either this year or end of twenty twenty six. But basically they've changed to like an employer type contract, which is like what we are on here, where basically they're like, yeah, performance review time, you're not up to snuff, You're we're making the coaching position redundant.

Get out.

Get out.

Yeah, it's basically reading between the lines as if Freer don't go well this year, they can get rid of Longmal and not have to pay him out as much as they would if he was contracted to say the end of twenty twenty eight.

Yeah, it's basically reading between the lines as if Freer don't go well this year, they can get rid of Longmal and not have to pay him out as much as they would if he was contracted to say the end of twenty twenty eight.

It's that, Yeah, you get your six weeks and go.

It's that, Yeah, you get your six weeks and go.

We're all big you're big on for Oh they don't go well, I reckon he's gone.

We're all big you're big on for Oh they don't go well, I reckon he's gone.

No, I don't think they're in the top four. But if they don't make finals, was a world of trouble. Yeah, yeah, agreed on that one.

No, I don't think they're in the top four. But if they don't make finals, was a world of trouble. Yeah, yeah, agreed on that one.

Another news. This is all Marcus wants to talk about. Coco. He was awesome.

Another news. This is all Marcus wants to talk about. Coco. He was awesome.

Isaac CaCO is the second coming of Steven Mill and Simmer say he's gonna.

Isaac CaCO is the second coming of Steven Mill and Simmer say he's gonna.

Win the cold Nah, I'll come down. He'll probably say that.

Win the cold Nah, I'll come down. He'll probably say that.

Four goals in the preseason versus the Cats even producing Gerald's like, who's this little guy running around? Like everyone's taking notice of CaCO? Fans have your body's jersey yet.

Four goals in the preseason versus the Cats even producing Gerald's like, who's this little guy running around? Like everyone's taking notice of CaCO? Fans have your body's jersey yet.

I'm wondering if replaced this last time I was on the AFL show, stitched that up.

I'm wondering if replaced this last time I was on the AFL show, stitched that up.

Put the number ten on the back of beautiful.

Put the number ten on the back of beautiful.

Oh very nice.

Oh very nice.

Yeah yeah he did.

Yeah yeah he did.

It's it's February, Like, I'm not getting not getting carried away?

It's it's February, Like, I'm not getting not getting carried away?

How much have you put on him for the column?

How much have you put on him for the column?

Five grand?

Five grand?

Of course, that is in monopoly money and is not in all a real reflection of Marcus's betting activity.

Of course, that is in monopoly money and is not in all a real reflection of Marcus's betting activity.

No, Paddy Dangerfield does that's guy.

No, Paddy Dangerfield does that's guy.

Yeah, he's gonna line up at full forward for a lot of the season, Chris Scott has said, to be fair, I don't trust the word that comes out of Chris Scott's mouth in preseason because he loves like saying, Oh, this guy's going to play and then he pulls him out, Oh this guy's going to play here. But dangerfield last season, last few seasons, looked a bit injured, like a lot of older players.

Yeah, he's gonna line up at full forward for a lot of the season, Chris Scott has said, to be fair, I don't trust the word that comes out of Chris Scott's mouth in preseason because he loves like saying, Oh, this guy's going to play and then he pulls him out, Oh this guy's going to play here. But dangerfield last season, last few seasons, looked a bit injured, like a lot of older players.

To fit injured, was injured.

To fit injured, was injured.

He was injured and the even when he was playing, And I don't mind that. There was a few times in his career where he's been injured. He just goes floats against Hargans hooks Easter Monday kick six when he was playing midfield for half the game and then he went forward.

He was injured and the even when he was playing, And I don't mind that. There was a few times in his career where he's been injured. He just goes floats against Hargans hooks Easter Monday kick six when he was playing midfield for half the game and then he went forward.

I don't mind it.

I don't mind it.

He's a big guy, but it'll just be interesting to see if he can kick like a couple.

He's a big guy, but it'll just be interesting to see if he can kick like a couple.

Of goals game missing a trick in the midfield though Tom Mkins is the only big body.

Of goals game missing a trick in the midfield though Tom Mkins is the only big body.

Mid Yeah, Bailey's rolling in like his a bit outside as well, homes that's true.

Mid Yeah, Bailey's rolling in like his a bit outside as well, homes that's true.

Just stay out of Jess's way. Danger Get out of his way, will be up. Stay out of Jesus way.

Just stay out of Jess's way. Danger Get out of his way, will be up. Stay out of Jesus way.

It's Jessus fifty and Pagan's paddic Yeah, get out of his way.

It's Jessus fifty and Pagan's paddic Yeah, get out of his way.

Yeah, I like it.

Yeah, I like it.

And then last one, I'm actually very excited for this because I love Jim Steins. There's a Jim Stein's game announced, a Jim's game they're calling It's on to the Legend on Saint Patrick's Day Eve Round one Adelaide Melbourne Verse Adelaide three twenty on a Sunday.

And then last one, I'm actually very excited for this because I love Jim Steins. There's a Jim Stein's game announced, a Jim's game they're calling It's on to the Legend on Saint Patrick's Day Eve Round one Adelaide Melbourne Verse Adelaide three twenty on a Sunday.

March sixteenth, the day before Saint Patty's Day.

March sixteenth, the day before Saint Patty's Day.

Can we get a Guinness at the G that'd be nice. Imagine a Guinness that would be good.

Can we get a Guinness at the G that'd be nice. Imagine a Guinness that would be good.

I know someone who works for the MCC I'll send it either.

I know someone who works for the MCC I'll send it either.

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

But with all the power that we both have, if the light pick.

But with all the power that we both have, if the light pick.

Is costing your twelve bucks that I did a.

Is costing your twelve bucks that I did a.

Would you pay fifteen bucks for a pint of guinness?

Would you pay fifteen bucks for a pint of guinness?

Absolutely you'd already paid. I paid twenty bucks at the G.

Absolutely you'd already paid. I paid twenty bucks at the G.

Absolutely absolutely not.

Absolutely absolutely not.

But I love that they're doing this for Jim.

But I love that they're doing this for Jim.

Stop.

Stop.

Jim Duns should have like a game every week.

Jim Duns should have like a game every week.

Legends being announced as a legend at the Melbourne Football Club as well, so they're all of fame.

Legends being announced as a legend at the Melbourne Football Club as well, so they're all of fame.

So he's in the actually deserved all of fame as well. He's obviously done a lot off the third. He was the last ruckman to win a Brown though as well, which is pretty cool.

So he's in the actually deserved all of fame as well. He's obviously done a lot off the third. He was the last ruckman to win a Brown though as well, which is pretty cool.

It will never happen again, just in Jerry won't anyway.

It will never happen again, just in Jerry won't anyway.

That's the that's the news. That wasn't too much but a bit of fun.

That's the that's the news. That wasn't too much but a bit of fun.

There a lot going on there, so we'll rip into this. So we're just we've got our thing here. We've got vibes, lader predictions every every which way. So we'll start off with the vibes, because let's be honest, we're big on the vibes here on the AFL Today Show.

There a lot going on there, so we'll rip into this. So we're just we've got our thing here. We've got vibes, lader predictions every every which way. So we'll start off with the vibes, because let's be honest, we're big on the vibes here on the AFL Today Show.

Absolutely, and it's pretty obvious.

Absolutely, and it's pretty obvious.

I thought, who the biggest team this offseason has the vibes? And then they played a practice match against the Indigenous All Stars and that has been Freemantle. Who are my big off season vibes team? And you had the most vanilla person of all time? Go and go.

I thought, who the biggest team this offseason has the vibes? And then they played a practice match against the Indigenous All Stars and that has been Freemantle. Who are my big off season vibes team? And you had the most vanilla person of all time? Go and go.

Yeah, we played pretty boring and didn't want to show it. Show them up.

Yeah, we played pretty boring and didn't want to show it. Show them up.

I mean justin your looks pathetic and got to run off your legs. If that's what free are going to serve up this year, you'll be out of a job come tax season.

I mean justin your looks pathetic and got to run off your legs. If that's what free are going to serve up this year, you'll be out of a job come tax season.

But it's it's just an exhibition game.

But it's it's just an exhibition game.

I'm not going to read too much into it. Like, no one in their right mind, even three your supporters will probably wanted them to win. Everyone one of the Indigenous All Stars to win.

I'm not going to read too much into it. Like, no one in their right mind, even three your supporters will probably wanted them to win. Everyone one of the Indigenous All Stars to win.

You want to go something fair enough, fair enough?

You want to go something fair enough, fair enough?

Yeah, horrible, that's your vibes.

Yeah, horrible, that's your vibes.

Yeah, I've got vibes on free.

Yeah, I've got vibes on free.

I think that they're set up to make a run for the top four this year for sure, But that's gonna go the vibes other than.

I think that they're set up to make a run for the top four this year for sure, But that's gonna go the vibes other than.

Their horrible home kid the Gold Coast Sons, I'm going Gold Coast Sons biggest off season vibes.

Their horrible home kid the Gold Coast Sons, I'm going Gold Coast Sons biggest off season vibes.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Just Dimmer just seems like a happy guy. He's got some medicine that helps him. I think you'd be a bit happier.

Just Dimmer just seems like a happy guy. He's got some medicine that helps him. I think you'd be a bit happier.

Aditional person for it.

Aditional person for it.

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have gone there.

Sorry, I probably shouldn't have gone there.

But uh, their social media I think has been really good. Dimmers up and about, they've got fresh, new long contracts. I think everyone just seems really happy up there. I don't think they're going to go that well, but they're just seem really happy.

But uh, their social media I think has been really good. Dimmers up and about, they've got fresh, new long contracts. I think everyone just seems really happy up there. I don't think they're going to go that well, but they're just seem really happy.

And I love so that. I hated their kids, so the vibes were a little bit down for their new kids. They got that pink.

And I love so that. I hated their kids, so the vibes were a little bit down for their new kids. They got that pink.

That's the game one.

That's the game one.

And then they've got just make it.

And then they've got just make it.

Your home kid.

Your home kid.

Yeah please, we talked about it the other day. The Captain's shot all these cool kids and then you've got this red paint thing thing just in the corner, like come on. But other than that, I really like their social media, which helps the vibes.

Yeah please, we talked about it the other day. The Captain's shot all these cool kids and then you've got this red paint thing thing just in the corner, like come on. But other than that, I really like their social media, which helps the vibes.

So you know when Homer got the shotgun for March, it's kind of like that. It doesn't work.

So you know when Homer got the shotgun for March, it's kind of like that. It doesn't work.

It doesn't work.

It doesn't work.

I don't know why, but for so long, two weeks now, I've been getting done. You really like looking for mud crabs getting worms out of the sand at the beach on myre TikTok for ages and it's so fund how.

I don't know why, but for so long, two weeks now, I've been getting done. You really like looking for mud crabs getting worms out of the sand at the beach on myre TikTok for ages and it's so fund how.

He's enjoying life, like he's just got out of Richmond and it's a sunny around on the Gold Coast.

He's enjoying life, like he's just got out of Richmond and it's a sunny around on the Gold Coast.

Who are your vibes? Bart?

Who are your vibes? Bart?

Similarly, for the social media funny, I'm going to go to the GBS Giants. They've got the best social media team as in the competition, and I also think they're going to do very well this season. So my big off season vibes is genius.

Similarly, for the social media funny, I'm going to go to the GBS Giants. They've got the best social media team as in the competition, and I also think they're going to do very well this season. So my big off season vibes is genius.

Yeah, there was the other reasons why they weren't, but the actual social media starte.

Yeah, there was the other reasons why they weren't, but the actual social media starte.

Is very good.

Is very good.

Yes, yeah, and then we go from the vibes and then we go who are we feeling good about? Australia is like this team, Yep, I'm feeling good about their their off season, what they're going to do. So it's the opposite to the vibes. It's sort of what we've brought on from twenty twenty four rolling into twenty twenty five. Who are like, yep, that's them next year. It's pretty easy for me. It's Hawthorne. We saw how well they finished off last year. They're a kick away from making a preliminary final. They've brought in Tom Brass and Josh Battle Stars. Yeah, they've short started stars, They've shot up their defense, They've already shown that they can kick scores. Like so it's like, okay, if players like Ginevan Watson, will Day and a couple of others all around there improve again they are top four finishes. Personally, I think they may just miss the top four, but it's that is their next step of progression.

Yes, yeah, and then we go from the vibes and then we go who are we feeling good about? Australia is like this team, Yep, I'm feeling good about their their off season, what they're going to do. So it's the opposite to the vibes. It's sort of what we've brought on from twenty twenty four rolling into twenty twenty five. Who are like, yep, that's them next year. It's pretty easy for me. It's Hawthorne. We saw how well they finished off last year. They're a kick away from making a preliminary final. They've brought in Tom Brass and Josh Battle Stars. Yeah, they've short started stars, They've shot up their defense, They've already shown that they can kick scores. Like so it's like, okay, if players like Ginevan Watson, will Day and a couple of others all around there improve again they are top four finishes. Personally, I think they may just miss the top four, but it's that is their next step of progression.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like that.

I like that.

The Hawks.

The Hawks.

Yeah, I think the season is going to be a bit tougher, but I do agree that you're feeling good about it because they can't. I don't think they can go too far backwards. They look they're all young, they're on the right, so that's.

Yeah, I think the season is going to be a bit tougher, but I do agree that you're feeling good about it because they can't. I don't think they can go too far backwards. They look they're all young, they're on the right, so that's.

Not too bad.

Not too bad.

I'm looking I'm feeling good about Geelong. I know a lot of people.

I'm looking I'm feeling good about Geelong. I know a lot of people.

That's not the most advantage thing to say, but their off season moves, I think we're really good.

That's not the most advantage thing to say, but their off season moves, I think we're really good.

Their vibes.

Their vibes.

I've always got a bit of swagger, like Bailey Smith's just rocking a headband.

I've always got a bit of swagger, like Bailey Smith's just rocking a headband.

Je looks He's just very funny.

Je looks He's just very funny.

Like every if you follow anyone on social media, there's post weird photos of anything. Just everything about them just feels good. They feel up and about, they feel really fresh. A few younger guys, older guys out younger guys in So I think I feel good about Joel.

Like every if you follow anyone on social media, there's post weird photos of anything. Just everything about them just feels good. They feel up and about, they feel really fresh. A few younger guys, older guys out younger guys in So I think I feel good about Joel.

Okay.

Okay.

I know a lot of people make fun of this, signing the Jack Martin one. Yeah, I think that's a very very good bit of business. Yeah, giving up anything. Yeah, you just got to stay fit.

I know a lot of people make fun of this, signing the Jack Martin one. Yeah, I think that's a very very good bit of business. Yeah, giving up anything. Yeah, you just got to stay fit.

Which you never But he's not he's good play keep doing it.

Which you never But he's not he's good play keep doing it.

Some of the best players in the off season farm. Do you want a piece of land?

Some of the best players in the off season farm. Do you want a piece of land?

Of course?

Of course?

Do you want some free T shirts? Got a guy you got a guy. Who are you feeling good about?

Do you want some free T shirts? Got a guy you got a guy. Who are you feeling good about?

Marcus? I think Collingwood. There's big talk they kind of have to do.

Marcus? I think Collingwood. There's big talk they kind of have to do.

I don't considering the average age was at twenty six or twenty seven something like that.

I don't considering the average age was at twenty six or twenty seven something like that.

At ten dudes over thirty.

At ten dudes over thirty.

Yeah, and their accuracy even I was gonna richmen, But last time was that the twenty goals one.

Yeah, and their accuracy even I was gonna richmen, But last time was that the twenty goals one.

At some point I watched five mans and turned it off.

At some point I watched five mans and turned it off.

That one was a rush too.

That one was a rush too.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I think I think Dan Houston is just going to add another little bit of element off half back to worry about if you keep personally, I think keep Nick Dekos on the other half back flank and you've got a couple of real weapons there.

I think I think Dan Houston is just going to add another little bit of element off half back to worry about if you keep personally, I think keep Nick Dekos on the other half back flank and you've got a couple of real weapons there.

So deep on the flip side, who aren't we feeling good about? Like this could be from This isn't the bad vibes, This is just who we're not feeling good about.

So deep on the flip side, who aren't we feeling good about? Like this could be from This isn't the bad vibes, This is just who we're not feeling good about.

Because I'll say bad vibes as well, the bad.

Because I'll say bad vibes as well, the bad.

Vibes team could have been GWS given you know, they're off season, and then again then they signed Jack Stringer. Anyway, I'm feeling bad about the Saints, and I feel bad for the Saints because it feels like a constant punch down on them. But you have a look at that injury list already. With Google Howard out for a long period of time, you've got injury concerns around Nas Sinclair, the Pooh's out King today has been announced that he's having knee surgery.

Vibes team could have been GWS given you know, they're off season, and then again then they signed Jack Stringer. Anyway, I'm feeling bad about the Saints, and I feel bad for the Saints because it feels like a constant punch down on them. But you have a look at that injury list already. With Google Howard out for a long period of time, you've got injury concerns around Nas Sinclair, the Pooh's out King today has been announced that he's having knee surgery.

Roland Marshall's been touch and go all pre season.

Roland Marshall's been touch and go all pre season.

Like. They've still got Rosslne as a coach.

Like. They've still got Rosslne as a coach.

Their training center is elite. It is a fantastic set, went down to Park, It's fantastic. But yeah, don't feel good about their prospects this season given all these injuries.

Their training center is elite. It is a fantastic set, went down to Park, It's fantastic. But yeah, don't feel good about their prospects this season given all these injuries.

It's just not great.

It's just not great.

Yeah, not fair. Coll I'm going to go Port Adelaide.

Yeah, not fair. Coll I'm going to go Port Adelaide.

I wouldn't have said this if Butters didn't get injured a couple of days ago.

I wouldn't have said this if Butters didn't get injured a couple of days ago.

But he's going to go with knee surgery.

But he's going to go with knee surgery.

He's going to be out for at least a couple of weeks to start the season.

He's going to be out for at least a couple of weeks to start the season.

You've got Marshall out for the whole year, so there's literally, yeah Todd Marshall, if you've literally got probably just George yard Is that's going to be able to kick goals and they will yeah, oh yeah, look I mean big forwards.

You've got Marshall out for the whole year, so there's literally, yeah Todd Marshall, if you've literally got probably just George yard Is that's going to be able to kick goals and they will yeah, oh yeah, look I mean big forwards.

But yes, I forgot about.

But yes, I forgot about.

We love WILLI will kick a few goals, but then they just rely on their start plays. Like unless Butters and Rosie have thirty and two goals, they very rarely like win games. So I'm very worried about them because they're probably thinking, oh, it's Ken's last year, We've got to.

We love WILLI will kick a few goals, but then they just rely on their start plays. Like unless Butters and Rosie have thirty and two goals, they very rarely like win games. So I'm very worried about them because they're probably thinking, oh, it's Ken's last year, We've got to.

Do something for Ken.

Do something for Ken.

He's not enough.

He's not enough.

I think he is enough. But they're just the injuries and then their depth is there.

I think he is enough. But they're just the injuries and then their depth is there.

So I'm worried about even their swing men radically and yeah, both both.

So I'm worried about even their swing men radically and yeah, both both.

Yeah, so their back lines cooked, their four lines cooked, and then with Butters out their midfield.

Yeah, so their back lines cooked, their four lines cooked, and then with Butters out their midfield.

So let me ask you this, just both off the top of your heads, because obviously it's Butters Horn, Francis Rosie and the order for their top three.

So let me ask you this, just both off the top of your heads, because obviously it's Butters Horn, Francis Rosie and the order for their top three.

You can argue any which way.

You can argue any which way.

That's fine.

That's fine.

Who is their fourth and fifth best player?

Who is their fourth and fifth best player?

You asked me this the other day.

You asked me this the other day.

It's a good question, That's what it drops off, because before it was Dan Houston. Yeah, I do share a Will and Drew.

It's a good question, That's what it drops off, because before it was Dan Houston. Yeah, I do share a Will and Drew.

Really that's a good core, only if he can find some consistency.

Really that's a good core, only if he can find some consistency.

Yeah, even burgle.

Yeah, even burgle.

Wins on the rise.

Wins on the rise.

Yeah, he was really good.

Yeah, he was really good.

I played really good back into the year.

I played really good back into the year.

Yeah, good call.

Yeah, good call.

And who aren't you feeling good about? Marcus? Who are I feeling good about?

And who aren't you feeling good about? Marcus? Who are I feeling good about?

Well?

Well?

I mean, if you've got Luke Beveridge as a coach, I think it's a shoeing the Western Bulldogs similarly, a lot of injuries, way too many injuries and long term injuries as well.

I mean, if you've got Luke Beveridge as a coach, I think it's a shoeing the Western Bulldogs similarly, a lot of injuries, way too many injuries and long term injuries as well.

And the vibes around Jamara aren't great. The vibes are Jamara aren't great.

And the vibes around Jamara aren't great. The vibes are Jamara aren't great.

Yeah, you've got players like Jones tralaw out for eight to Tennison.

Yeah, you've got players like Jones tralaw out for eight to Tennison.

Look, it is not looking great for the Dogs. Bailey Dale and Ed Richards are both racing a racing to be fit.

Look, it is not looking great for the Dogs. Bailey Dale and Ed Richards are both racing a racing to be fit.

For well Richards, so they've been both being great for him.

For well Richards, so they've been both being great for him.

Yeah it's not Riley Sanders here we come.

Yeah it's not Riley Sanders here we come.

Yeah, rises and sliders for twenty twenty four, So who's going to catapults up the ladder and who's going to fall down?

Yeah, rises and sliders for twenty twenty four, So who's going to catapults up the ladder and who's going to fall down?

I said I wasn't going to do it. I wasn't.

I said I wasn't going to do it. I wasn't.

I reckon.

I reckon.

We did slider last year and you've got.

We did slider last year and you've got.

Exactly the same My slider last year was the dsy nailed it.

Exactly the same My slider last year was the dsy nailed it.

Yeah that's true.

Yeah that's true.

Cool.

Cool.

I can't believe we're doing it, but the Gold Coast sounds let's go I literally said this time last year, I'm never doing this again because they don't win outside of Queensland. I'm a truth twentieth I'm a truth of stats guy. I'm a Gold Coast truth.

I can't believe we're doing it, but the Gold Coast sounds let's go I literally said this time last year, I'm never doing this again because they don't win outside of Queensland. I'm a truth twentieth I'm a truth of stats guy. I'm a Gold Coast truth.

These aren't predictions. We're just spoiling the season for you. Yeah, this isn't a prediction. This is a spoiler. Gold Coast Top eight Baby, they will rise up the ladder. On the back of it, Jed Walter, on the back of really Johnny Noble, stupid sexy Flanders Matte round end of the show. For end of the show, Ned Moyle, who's pushing Witzy for just what is the number one?

These aren't predictions. We're just spoiling the season for you. Yeah, this isn't a prediction. This is a spoiler. Gold Coast Top eight Baby, they will rise up the ladder. On the back of it, Jed Walter, on the back of really Johnny Noble, stupid sexy Flanders Matte round end of the show. For end of the show, Ned Moyle, who's pushing Witzy for just what is the number one?

Big Mac Andrew, Big.

Big Mac Andrew, Big.

Mac Andrew, Sam Collins. I'm just gonna name the whole Teamland. Let's go Johnny Noble and I already said the weapon. He said, yes, No, they are set up.

Mac Andrew, Sam Collins. I'm just gonna name the whole Teamland. Let's go Johnny Noble and I already said the weapon. He said, yes, No, they are set up.

If I don't know, never again.

If I don't know, never again.

If Gerald two fifty eight PM on the twenty seventh of February, Alex Donnelly said, never again.

If Gerald two fifty eight PM on the twenty seventh of February, Alex Donnelly said, never again.

If it doesn't happen this year.

If it doesn't happen this year.

Jerald's messaged me. He said, I don't care.

Jerald's messaged me. He said, I don't care.

Shut that man up, time stamp it, put it on socials.

Shut that man up, time stamp it, put it on socials.

Oh my god, there we go. There we go, my rise are not gold coasts? Can I say that?

Oh my god, there we go. There we go, my rise are not gold coasts? Can I say that?

Nah?

Nah?

I'm going Freeman or.

I'm going Freeman or.

Is my main one?

Is my main one?

Obviously everyone's talking about Freeman, which said.

Obviously everyone's talking about Freeman, which said.

You can go.

You can go.

You gotta pick one, wow, big one.

You gotta pick one, wow, big one.

Alright. I was just gonna's just have a stat that everyone we always talk about.

Alright. I was just gonna's just have a stat that everyone we always talk about.

Do you tell your girlfriend she's the main one?

Do you tell your girlfriend she's the main one?

And then the other one is hey, yeah, yeah big one?

And then the other one is hey, yeah, yeah big one?

How did you know that? No, No, we love missus status lady.

How did you know that? No, No, we love missus status lady.

We won't say her name and doctor, but Missus Stats Lady is.

We won't say her name and doctor, but Missus Stats Lady is.

A great lady. A anyway we'll go, we'll find.

A great lady. A anyway we'll go, we'll find.

I'll go for Since twenty fourteen, at least one team outside the top eight has entered the top four the next season.

I'll go for Since twenty fourteen, at least one team outside the top eight has entered the top four the next season.

That's a good stat.

That's a good stat.

That's the one I wanted to bring up.

That's the one I wanted to bring up.

So that's why I was going to say Freemantle and collingwod because I think they can both push into the top four and it usually happens.

So that's why I was going to say Freemantle and collingwod because I think they can both push into the top four and it usually happens.

Was just at least one. So who came out on the top to make the four? Last year Sydney made the final. Last them didn't make the top four.

Was just at least one. So who came out on the top to make the four? Last year Sydney made the final. Last them didn't make the top four.

Hang on, I can't remember. Let me let me get back to you on that.

Hang on, I can't remember. Let me let me get back to you on that.

But I think the riser is definitely free because they're going to come from just nowhere, really and you're going to yet.

But I think the riser is definitely free because they're going to come from just nowhere, really and you're going to yet.

Charged because Collingwood did it the year before.

Charged because Collingwood did it the year before.

I literally went through it because I couldn't have line.

I literally went through it because I couldn't have line.

Maybe GWS did it in twenty twenty three, the Swans did it in twenty and twenty three, twenty twenty.

Maybe GWS did it in twenty twenty three, the Swans did it in twenty and twenty three, twenty twenty.

Two long missed finals.

Two long missed finals.

Yes, yeah, they did the very finished the after Yeah, after they missed.

Yes, yeah, they did the very finished the after Yeah, after they missed.

Yeah, good stat stats, go Marcus, go for it Collingwood. I can't believe none of you guys have mentioned the ship, but they tried. They missed out on the finals last season, and I've got off.

Yeah, good stat stats, go Marcus, go for it Collingwood. I can't believe none of you guys have mentioned the ship, but they tried. They missed out on the finals last season, and I've got off.

I'm a banker for top four.

I'm a banker for top four.

Yeah, I agree, Wow, a banker.

Yeah, I agree, Wow, a banker.

I love how this season there's so many different massinations where everyone has so many different ideas on different teams. See this, you're not You're all on the Collingwood tw not at all, which we'll get too later. So then we go to the Slider and this is interesting because later on we get to our like rundown of top fours and everything else. This is where we're completely different. So my slaughter is the GW West Giants like him. No, it's honestly, not that they went out in straight sets last year. They've they've lost coming Perryman and the other guy, the other guy that went to Adelaide as well Peeling. There's three three decent squad players that they're going to miss out on, and they've bought in Jake Stringer, Jesse Hogan. Kenny kick eighty goals again in a season, probably, but you're relying on Aaron Cadman to lift. Toby Green was awful last year. Stephen Kennelio has been injured for as long as you now. We've got Tom Green who's out for the first month as well. Briggsy was injured all last year. Sam Taylor has never played more than sixteen games in a season, but he hasn't done it for the last three years. And then they had those debilitating finals losses where they should have won both of them, they found a way to lose. And then I know, I don't really pay much attention to preseason. They got smashed by the Swan like horrendously smashed by the Swans. I'm concerned that that they've hit the tipping point and you're on the downhill.

I love how this season there's so many different massinations where everyone has so many different ideas on different teams. See this, you're not You're all on the Collingwood tw not at all, which we'll get too later. So then we go to the Slider and this is interesting because later on we get to our like rundown of top fours and everything else. This is where we're completely different. So my slaughter is the GW West Giants like him. No, it's honestly, not that they went out in straight sets last year. They've they've lost coming Perryman and the other guy, the other guy that went to Adelaide as well Peeling. There's three three decent squad players that they're going to miss out on, and they've bought in Jake Stringer, Jesse Hogan. Kenny kick eighty goals again in a season, probably, but you're relying on Aaron Cadman to lift. Toby Green was awful last year. Stephen Kennelio has been injured for as long as you now. We've got Tom Green who's out for the first month as well. Briggsy was injured all last year. Sam Taylor has never played more than sixteen games in a season, but he hasn't done it for the last three years. And then they had those debilitating finals losses where they should have won both of them, they found a way to lose. And then I know, I don't really pay much attention to preseason. They got smashed by the Swan like horrendously smashed by the Swans. I'm concerned that that they've hit the tipping point and you're on the downhill.

How long can you stay up there? Though? Before before.

How long can you stay up there? Though? Before before.

That's what Alex said.

That's what Alex said.

That's my thing.

That's my thing.

But I think they've got what.

But I think they've got what.

I'm saying the other way. I'm saying just a moment of time before they actually win.

I'm saying the other way. I'm saying just a moment of time before they actually win.

They've had the chances to do it and they've proven that they can't do it well.

They've had the chances to do it and they've proven that they can't do it well.

I think they got the best full line in the competition. Yeah, and they've got the best defender in the competition yep. And I think the midfield I remember as one of very solid a team in.

I think they got the best full line in the competition. Yeah, and they've got the best defender in the competition yep. And I think the midfield I remember as one of very solid a team in.

The West have the best forward line.

The West have the best forward line.

The other team in the way man Yeah, oh sorry, yeah, I was thinking I don't know why.

The other team in the way man Yeah, oh sorry, yeah, I was thinking I don't know why.

Why would that's the best? Yeah, that's fair.

Why would that's the best? Yeah, that's fair.

And speaking of they're your slader stats.

And speaking of they're your slader stats.

Slider, my dad and brother will not be happy with this.

Slider, my dad and brother will not be happy with this.

Yeah, Bulldogs, they are my big slider from sixth. I think they're going to be well out of finals. They've obviously lost depth, with like the likes of Caleb Daniel McCray. I know that they weren't in the team last year, but when you have all these injuries, you slid in Caleb Daniel with experience, He's slott in McCray with experience. It's not in Bailey Smith, who still will be pretty good and really solid for Geelong. You take all of them out and I don't know, I just don't really rate them. And then the other side, like you said, I don't rate bever anymore. I think he was really good at the start. He just seems like an old gruf found that's done.

Yeah, Bulldogs, they are my big slider from sixth. I think they're going to be well out of finals. They've obviously lost depth, with like the likes of Caleb Daniel McCray. I know that they weren't in the team last year, but when you have all these injuries, you slid in Caleb Daniel with experience, He's slott in McCray with experience. It's not in Bailey Smith, who still will be pretty good and really solid for Geelong. You take all of them out and I don't know, I just don't really rate them. And then the other side, like you said, I don't rate bever anymore. I think he was really good at the start. He just seems like an old gruf found that's done.

It's going to be He's going to be still coaching the dogs when he's eighty.

It's going to be He's going to be still coaching the dogs when he's eighty.

So I think he was the perfect coach for the Western Bulldogs when he came on board.

So I think he was the perfect coach for the Western Bulldogs when he came on board.

Want to fire, Yeah he's done that, but he was, but Grace wasn't born.

Want to fire, Yeah he's done that, but he was, but Grace wasn't born.

But what I mean, he was a great He's a great people manager, like he like got the group up and going and in a great headspace all that, and now it's like kind of sick of hearing the same thing.

But what I mean, he was a great He's a great people manager, like he like got the group up and going and in a great headspace all that, and now it's like kind of sick of hearing the same thing.

He just has excused as good as a man manager is a man man coach.

He just has excused as good as a man manager is a man man coach.

I don't know how to say that. As he once was. How long do you hold on he won a supremiership?

I don't know how to say that. As he once was. How long do you hold on he won a supremiership?

Yeah, like he needs like it's nice for himself. Also, yeah, you know you're nine years old according to.

Yeah, like he needs like it's nice for himself. Also, yeah, you know you're nine years old according to.

Us almost.

Us almost.

And your slider Marcus, well, miss I just swapped basically who we're looking forward to one Poort Adelaide, So yeah, I think.

And your slider Marcus, well, miss I just swapped basically who we're looking forward to one Poort Adelaide, So yeah, I think.

It's going to be a tough year.

It's going to be a tough year.

The transition of the coaching We've seen it hasn't worked at previous clubs.

The transition of the coaching We've seen it hasn't worked at previous clubs.

It's worked once technically twice. It's worked with Paul Ruse to long Mind and then Ruse to good One.

It's worked once technically twice. It's worked with Paul Ruse to long Mind and then Ruse to good One.

Because want a flag. But then Melbourne has fallen off the cliff.

Because want a flag. But then Melbourne has fallen off the cliff.

Yeah, but but it's still the transition where Melbourne were to then wear like I know they missed finals last year. You take out last year twenty twenty four, go back the previous six years. How that improved deadily every year.

Yeah, but but it's still the transition where Melbourne were to then wear like I know they missed finals last year. You take out last year twenty twenty four, go back the previous six years. How that improved deadily every year.

So I guess it did work for Hawthorne as well and didn't.

So I guess it did work for Hawthorne as well and didn't.

I'm just scarred when it happened with us. I guess Carlton fans are also scarred as well.

I'm just scarred when it happened with us. I guess Carlton fans are also scarred as well.

Yeah, So speaking of that, we've talked about like all those scars and that. So there's the most pressure on a club and or a coach heading into twenty twenty five. So you can have a club as a whole. So Port Adelaide maybe because they absolutely need to win a prelim final or whatever, but for me it's justin long ny Are.

Yeah, So speaking of that, we've talked about like all those scars and that. So there's the most pressure on a club and or a coach heading into twenty twenty five. So you can have a club as a whole. So Port Adelaide maybe because they absolutely need to win a prelim final or whatever, but for me it's justin long ny Are.

Yep, they've won out and have bought the players.

Yep, they've won out and have bought the players.

They've got the players in they've got Now they've got this great forward line with the Miss Tracy and Shy Bolton. That is that's pretty that's say.

They've got the players in they've got Now they've got this great forward line with the Miss Tracy and Shy Bolton. That is that's pretty that's say.

That should be one hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty.

That should be one hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty.

Goals at least four, Yeah, an average of forty goals each. I think Tracy can kick sixty, so you can get that up to you can get that up to.

Goals at least four, Yeah, an average of forty goals each. I think Tracy can kick sixty, so you can get that up to you can get that up to.

One hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty. Think it's forty three.

One hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty. Think it's forty three.

But if they don't deliver, because you look at their midfield Sarong Bray Suaw Young obviously they've got Luke Jackson in their Darcy when he's backfit. Their defense is pretty strong. I think they're still one defender short.

But if they don't deliver, because you look at their midfield Sarong Bray Suaw Young obviously they've got Luke Jackson in their Darcy when he's backfit. Their defense is pretty strong. I think they're still one defender short.

Yeah, they're like a big because you've got Luke.

Yeah, they're like a big because you've got Luke.

They've all got really classic foots because like Jordan Clark, right, but like they're not the best one on one but like who was a Pierce he's getting a bit older now.

They've all got really classic foots because like Jordan Clark, right, but like they're not the best one on one but like who was a Pierce he's getting a bit older now.

Though, so and a very handsome Bailey bandfield as well. The most pressure is on Justin Longnil. If Frio did not deliver a I'll say top.

Though, so and a very handsome Bailey bandfield as well. The most pressure is on Justin Longnil. If Frio did not deliver a I'll say top.

Six they need Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, Look, we've talked enough about better.

Six they need Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, Look, we've talked enough about better.

I've got better written in. We'll go someone different.

I've got better written in. We'll go someone different.

I'm actually gonna go VOSSI can I think Carlton fans or Culton fans that I know that I speak to, they're getting a little bit sick of, you know, getting there but not getting there. They could have easily missed out in the finals last season. They should have missed out in the finals last season. And if they don't make Top four with the run that they've got, the picture they've got this year, they play North Melbourne twice, I believe, yeah, probably, I think they play West Coast twice, and they played the Bombers twice, which is almost six wins, right, five wins probably at least if they don't if they don't make top four, I reckon then I think foss might be But.

I'm actually gonna go VOSSI can I think Carlton fans or Culton fans that I know that I speak to, they're getting a little bit sick of, you know, getting there but not getting there. They could have easily missed out in the finals last season. They should have missed out in the finals last season. And if they don't make Top four with the run that they've got, the picture they've got this year, they play North Melbourne twice, I believe, yeah, probably, I think they play West Coast twice, and they played the Bombers twice, which is almost six wins, right, five wins probably at least if they don't if they don't make top four, I reckon then I think foss might be But.

They've got a lot of injuries.

They've got a lot of injuries.

Like I know again again, can't keep making excuse again.

Like I know again again, can't keep making excuse again.

You're looking at this, You're looking at the fitness staff and the around Vossy.

You're looking at this, You're looking at the fitness staff and the around Vossy.

They've bought in a new fitness stuff this season, their new head of fitnesses. Come mean, since October the first.

They've bought in a new fitness stuff this season, their new head of fitnesses. Come mean, since October the first.

It's just ridiculous because the past five six years they've had at least one key player.

It's just ridiculous because the past five six years they've had at least one key player.

Go down with the long term preseason injury.

Go down with the long term preseason injury.

Whether that' Zach Williams, Sam Dougherty, Adam Cherrup, that's true, that's finish, can't help.

Whether that' Zach Williams, Sam Dougherty, Adam Cherrup, that's true, that's finish, can't help.

But mich of Us also saved a like Carfief the coffee shop. She get an extra year for that American.

But mich of Us also saved a like Carfief the coffee shop. She get an extra year for that American.

No, the good blow Claus is out now.

No, the good blow Claus is out now.

And he's got big guns like you, Michael Foster out.

And he's got big guns like you, Michael Foster out.

You can be the security guy to walk the new coach down the ground. Who's your who's the who? You got the pressure on? Stats guy? Who are you putting the blow talks?

You can be the security guy to walk the new coach down the ground. Who's your who's the who? You got the pressure on? Stats guy? Who are you putting the blow talks?

Because I was talking about last year, I'm sick of Adelaide, So now that I'm talking down Adelaide for a whole month.

Because I was talking about last year, I'm sick of Adelaide, So now that I'm talking down Adelaide for a whole month.

That was the worst prediction I've ever heard.

That was the worst prediction I've ever heard.

It was.

It was.

It was, And that's one thing I don't I think I said this wasn't it was. I'm not even going to go there. Adelaide was supposed to be good last year and that I didn't. So I'm going Matthew Nicks. There's a lot of pressure on this man. They've had zero finals in five years since he's been coached. They haven't progressed up the ladder. Two years ago that were tenth, that was their best, but all the other years were fourteenth, fifteenth, fourteen, fifteenth, twelfth, Like you can't just stay in that little bubble when you've got a really good forward line, a really good.

It was, And that's one thing I don't I think I said this wasn't it was. I'm not even going to go there. Adelaide was supposed to be good last year and that I didn't. So I'm going Matthew Nicks. There's a lot of pressure on this man. They've had zero finals in five years since he's been coached. They haven't progressed up the ladder. Two years ago that were tenth, that was their best, but all the other years were fourteenth, fifteenth, fourteen, fifteenth, twelfth, Like you can't just stay in that little bubble when you've got a really good forward line, a really good.

Midfield also known as the Kilda.

Midfield also known as the Kilda.

Yes, they they fold will be will be good this year or it should be. I think I think they had a better coach. I think they crumble a lot at the end of games, like when they didn't make finals that year because Sydney robbed them and that was.

Yes, they they fold will be will be good this year or it should be. I think I think they had a better coach. I think they crumble a lot at the end of games, like when they didn't make finals that year because Sydney robbed them and that was.

Also they should have kicked tight against Colling.

Also they should have kicked tight against Colling.

They should have, but they always lose really close games. I think that's part of the coach's problem and I think he needs to go. If they do mentality, like if they don't push at least push, that was a great night.

They should have, but they always lose really close games. I think that's part of the coach's problem and I think he needs to go. If they do mentality, like if they don't push at least push, that was a great night.

If they don't push for finals or probably eighth, I think he's gone. So he's a lot of pressure.

If they don't push for finals or probably eighth, I think he's gone. So he's a lot of pressure.

Gone there and also a lot a lot of infighting at the club too, like there was a power pool last year at the board as well.

Gone there and also a lot a lot of infighting at the club too, like there was a power pool last year at the board as well.

A lot going on there. Did they have an on field scrap as well? A couple of their players last year. Maybe that's good. That's good as long as that's hard man hard big thrill thought podcast.

A lot going on there. Did they have an on field scrap as well? A couple of their players last year. Maybe that's good. That's good as long as that's hard man hard big thrill thought podcast.

All right, let's get to the ladder break, and this is one of the most important things here. So we'll talk here about your top four slash six. So like who can sneak who's your top four? And then like another team or two that can sneak in. So I think we're all going to have one team guaranteed that's the same, and it's the Brisbane line. Yeah, correct, ye, I think we've all got them in for obvious reason. So my next team is Geelong the Swan's and then I've got Hawthorne and Frio, So that's my top five. I reckon they'll be settling in the top four this year.

All right, let's get to the ladder break, and this is one of the most important things here. So we'll talk here about your top four slash six. So like who can sneak who's your top four? And then like another team or two that can sneak in. So I think we're all going to have one team guaranteed that's the same, and it's the Brisbane line. Yeah, correct, ye, I think we've all got them in for obvious reason. So my next team is Geelong the Swan's and then I've got Hawthorne and Frio, So that's my top five. I reckon they'll be settling in the top four this year.

Interesting, I don't don't mind that.

Interesting, I don't don't mind that.

I don't know about the Hawks. I think I do think the Hawks will be good. I just think they've got a really tough fixture.

I don't know about the Hawks. I think I do think the Hawks will be good. I just think they've got a really tough fixture.

Who else have you gotten? Who would you subtract? So I've got I've got Hawthorne out, Yeah.

Who else have you gotten? Who would you subtract? So I've got I've got Hawthorne out, Yeah.

Hawthorne out. I've got Brisbane Collingwood.

Hawthorne out. I've got Brisbane Collingwood.

I think Collingwood are going to be top three, like top two I'm going to say definitely Frio and then GWS in that sort of fourth to fifth sort of range.

I think Collingwood are going to be top three, like top two I'm going to say definitely Frio and then GWS in that sort of fourth to fifth sort of range.

I think I think Jeds can really push up.

I think I think Jeds can really push up.

I had Carlton in there originally and then since they're because I think they should be good Carton, They've got the list, but they've had all these injuries, so I've taken Carlton out and putting in JWS. I think the same thing as what Marcus said. They're sort of about that pinnacle they've they are still up there. I think you're saying they're going to drop off. I think it'll be maybe after this year or the year after they'll drop off because they've still got good young guys. So I'm saying their top four and then around the mark is Gelong and Sydney. Sidney I'm just question marks about a new coach coming off Grand Final things like that, So I'm putting them just outside the top four, same as Gelong.

I had Carlton in there originally and then since they're because I think they should be good Carton, They've got the list, but they've had all these injuries, so I've taken Carlton out and putting in JWS. I think the same thing as what Marcus said. They're sort of about that pinnacle they've they are still up there. I think you're saying they're going to drop off. I think it'll be maybe after this year or the year after they'll drop off because they've still got good young guys. So I'm saying their top four and then around the mark is Gelong and Sydney. Sidney I'm just question marks about a new coach coming off Grand Final things like that, So I'm putting them just outside the top four, same as Gelong.

I think they could push for the top four, but just outside.

I think they could push for the top four, but just outside.

Yep, Marcus, any addition subtractions.

Yep, Marcus, any addition subtractions.

Well, yeah, just come back at the end of the season when this exactly is being onlong in order. Brisbane Collingwood, Judi Biston third I rate them highly online. You and I've gone the Swan's obviously they've shown really good signs and they're always there in abouts yep.

Well, yeah, just come back at the end of the season when this exactly is being onlong in order. Brisbane Collingwood, Judi Biston third I rate them highly online. You and I've gone the Swan's obviously they've shown really good signs and they're always there in abouts yep.

And then fighting for the fourth spot.

And then fighting for the fourth spot.

Yeah, so fifth and six, I'm going to go freemantle because they have to be there, yep. And similarly the Blues they got a pretty easy fiction and they've got to be there as well.

Yeah, so fifth and six, I'm going to go freemantle because they have to be there, yep. And similarly the Blues they got a pretty easy fiction and they've got to be there as well.

Yeah, all right, and then the who's in the mix, who's scrapping for those final spots, who's going to miss out in heartbreaking circumstances, Because I'll be honest, I had my ladder, had teams at twelve and eleven down to ten and third team at thirteenth.

Yeah, all right, and then the who's in the mix, who's scrapping for those final spots, who's going to miss out in heartbreaking circumstances, Because I'll be honest, I had my ladder, had teams at twelve and eleven down to ten and third team at thirteenth.

I was really as my bottom half of the ladder.

I was really as my bottom half of the ladder.

So for mine, no order this it's Carlton, Adelaide, Gold, cost Sons, Giants, Pies, Dogs, D's.

So for mine, no order this it's Carlton, Adelaide, Gold, cost Sons, Giants, Pies, Dogs, D's.

That's that clump from like seven to thirteen. To be really so harsh on JB Western calling with their open.

That's that clump from like seven to thirteen. To be really so harsh on JB Western calling with their open.

Actually how Jennivers below Adelaide, I said no order.

Actually how Jennivers below Adelaide, I said no order.

Yeah, I was just like, oh, I've done that, Okay, I need to add in this this in this it wasn't there's no order in that. That's just the teams that because in Fantas, I did my my bottom teams after I did my top four, four or six. It was basically the makeup of that because I think those teams are just won't fight for it. But then there's teams who'd like it won't shock like any of these teams. It will not shock me.

Yeah, I was just like, oh, I've done that, Okay, I need to add in this this in this it wasn't there's no order in that. That's just the teams that because in Fantas, I did my my bottom teams after I did my top four, four or six. It was basically the makeup of that because I think those teams are just won't fight for it. But then there's teams who'd like it won't shock like any of these teams. It will not shock me.

If any of them won the Grand Final, well, I would not.

If any of them won the Grand Final, well, I would not.

Even in the top like twelve, not the D's not.

Even in the top like twelve, not the D's not.

If they if they all of a sudden put it together. Clary and Petraka have amazing seasons. Van roy and kicked sixty goals like that won't shock me. They will kick a But if the Dogs somehow later the season catapulled up up the ladder, it's not going to shot me. I'm not hot on the Pies, but again a lot of them, a lot of people are, so it's not going to shock or fit.

If they if they all of a sudden put it together. Clary and Petraka have amazing seasons. Van roy and kicked sixty goals like that won't shock me. They will kick a But if the Dogs somehow later the season catapulled up up the ladder, it's not going to shot me. I'm not hot on the Pies, but again a lot of them, a lot of people are, so it's not going to shock or fit.

Same with the Giants, Thriller.