In this deeply personal and eye-opening episode, Dr. Nicole Saphier sits down with Claire Abernathy, a young woman who shares her experience transitioning as a child—and later detransitioning as a teenager.
Claire walks listeners through her early discomfort with her body, the influence of peer groups and online communities, and how therapy and medical professionals quickly affirmed a transgender identity without fully addressing underlying mental health struggles. She details her path through social transition, puberty suppression, testosterone treatment, and a double mastectomy before the age of 15—and the lasting physical and emotional consequences that followed.
The conversation explores the complex realities of gender dysphoria, adolescent mental health, eating disorders, self-harm, medicalization, parental involvement, and informed consent, offering rare insight into how quickly vulnerable children can be placed on irreversible medical pathways. Claire also discusses detransitioning, recovery, and what she wishes parents, clinicians, and policymakers better understood when it comes to caring for distressed youth.
This episode is not about politics—it’s about listening, caution, and putting children’s long-term well-being first.

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