You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Aaron McIntyre back with us of the Oran McIntyre Show podcast. You should all check out and subscribe to. Mister Oran, appreciate you making the time. Let's dive right into it with the Mahmood Khalil situation. This guy who was part of the anti Jewish, anti Israel protests up at Columbia University, now he might get deported. Some questions about what for, specifically, what do you make of all of it?

You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Aaron McIntyre back with us of the Oran McIntyre Show podcast. You should all check out and subscribe to. Mister Oran, appreciate you making the time. Let's dive right into it with the Mahmood Khalil situation. This guy who was part of the anti Jewish, anti Israel protests up at Columbia University, now he might get deported. Some questions about what for, specifically, what do you make of all of it?

Well, I feel like this situation has been made far more complicated than it needs to be. As somebody who doesn't want foreigners who hate my country here, I'm really fine with them genuinely being deported, especially if they're involved in any kind of anti American agitation, which I think ultimately would include what happened here. However, the problem is that we've seen all kinds of different anti American protests on college campuses and across the country. I'm constantly seeing anti deportation protests with people waving foreign flags throughout the United States. If we're going to deport people who are immigrants, who do not have legal status in the United States or are not permanent citizens in the United States for being anti American. I'm actually generally okay with that, because if you're a guest in my country, you should love my country. If you are here, then I want you here because you want to be here and you appreciate what we provide. If not, you can go home. However, when we single people out just for anti Semitic or anti israel remarks or action, that doesn't look great, right, Like, ultimately we should be we should be deporting everyone who hates the United States and doesn't have to be here, people who are here illegally, or people who are here under our own graciousness but ultimately hate the United States. They should all go, or we shouldn't be deporting them, but we should really not be doing it on a case by case basis, depending on what group they happen to have criticized.

Well, I feel like this situation has been made far more complicated than it needs to be. As somebody who doesn't want foreigners who hate my country here, I'm really fine with them genuinely being deported, especially if they're involved in any kind of anti American agitation, which I think ultimately would include what happened here. However, the problem is that we've seen all kinds of different anti American protests on college campuses and across the country. I'm constantly seeing anti deportation protests with people waving foreign flags throughout the United States. If we're going to deport people who are immigrants, who do not have legal status in the United States or are not permanent citizens in the United States for being anti American. I'm actually generally okay with that, because if you're a guest in my country, you should love my country. If you are here, then I want you here because you want to be here and you appreciate what we provide. If not, you can go home. However, when we single people out just for anti Semitic or anti israel remarks or action, that doesn't look great, right, Like, ultimately we should be we should be deporting everyone who hates the United States and doesn't have to be here, people who are here illegally, or people who are here under our own graciousness but ultimately hate the United States. They should all go, or we shouldn't be deporting them, but we should really not be doing it on a case by case basis, depending on what group they happen to have criticized.

Yeah, well this is where by the way, you for anyone listening, we didn't coordinate this before, and I didn't ask your opinion on this one. I see this, I talked about it on radio before. But I see this very similarly to you. Which is interesting because there are people on the rioters like, yeah, send him home, and I'm like, Okay, I don't like this guy. I don't like what he says or you know, I don't know him, but I don't like what he says and stands for. Fine. I think he probably crossed the line. He probably even committed some crimes allegedly by you know, whether it's trespassing, breaking property, threatening people. You know, menacing threatening can be a crime in a jurisdiction, but one I want to know what it is. It can't just be ew he's gross, So he leaves now? Because who makes that determination? Right?

Yeah, well this is where by the way, you for anyone listening, we didn't coordinate this before, and I didn't ask your opinion on this one. I see this, I talked about it on radio before. But I see this very similarly to you. Which is interesting because there are people on the rioters like, yeah, send him home, and I'm like, Okay, I don't like this guy. I don't like what he says or you know, I don't know him, but I don't like what he says and stands for. Fine. I think he probably crossed the line. He probably even committed some crimes allegedly by you know, whether it's trespassing, breaking property, threatening people. You know, menacing threatening can be a crime in a jurisdiction, but one I want to know what it is. It can't just be ew he's gross, So he leaves now? Because who makes that determination? Right?

We need?

We need?

I need to know what the process is and also is this is this then going to be the standard? To your point going forward, there's a lot of anti American stuff that happens on college campuses and off college campuses, protest movements, et cetera. And you know where who makes the determination as to whether that's crossed the line, if it's not, if it's not breaking the law that gets you deported. What is it is? What I need to know in this case.

I need to know what the process is and also is this is this then going to be the standard? To your point going forward, there's a lot of anti American stuff that happens on college campuses and off college campuses, protest movements, et cetera. And you know where who makes the determination as to whether that's crossed the line, if it's not, if it's not breaking the law that gets you deported. What is it is? What I need to know in this case.

Again, I'm very much for sending home. A large amount of immigrants that don't need to be here. So my general flexibility on deportation is pretty high. If you don't like my country and you're here under our good graces, you can go. That's fine with me. Like, I really genuinely don't have a problem with expelling people who don't have to be here, who aren't citizens and who hate the country because they don't have a constitutional right to be here. They're only here because we allowed them to be here. They're not citizens, so they don't have to be here if we don't want them to be. However, again, like you said, targeting someone just because we disagree with that particular their opinion, that looks pretty bad. Like you need to have a general policy if you hate the United States, if you're involved, especially in violating the law while engaging in an anti American protest, great go home all of them or none of them, but you need to pick one.

Again, I'm very much for sending home. A large amount of immigrants that don't need to be here. So my general flexibility on deportation is pretty high. If you don't like my country and you're here under our good graces, you can go. That's fine with me. Like, I really genuinely don't have a problem with expelling people who don't have to be here, who aren't citizens and who hate the country because they don't have a constitutional right to be here. They're only here because we allowed them to be here. They're not citizens, so they don't have to be here if we don't want them to be. However, again, like you said, targeting someone just because we disagree with that particular their opinion, that looks pretty bad. Like you need to have a general policy if you hate the United States, if you're involved, especially in violating the law while engaging in an anti American protest, great go home all of them or none of them, but you need to pick one.

Well, this is what I mean. There needs to be a standard, and that's why process is important here. It needs to be okay, this is what happened. This is why he goes, and if anyone else does the same thing, they go too. It's not just oh, we really don't like the anti Jewish stuff on Columbia University's campus, so that person goes. I would also I'm wondering are there other there must have been other people who are non citizens who are involved in these protests. Are they going to get kicked out too? So for me, it's more an issue of clarity. I'm with you. I think if you're a guest in America and you step out of line at all, you should be sent back to wherever you came from. But it's also amazing when you think about how it's a revolutionary idea, at least according to Democrats, to kick gang members with felony convictions on their records who are illegals out of the country and back to their country. Right, So this is we have so much work to do on this issue that it's kind of staggering.

Well, this is what I mean. There needs to be a standard, and that's why process is important here. It needs to be okay, this is what happened. This is why he goes, and if anyone else does the same thing, they go too. It's not just oh, we really don't like the anti Jewish stuff on Columbia University's campus, so that person goes. I would also I'm wondering are there other there must have been other people who are non citizens who are involved in these protests. Are they going to get kicked out too? So for me, it's more an issue of clarity. I'm with you. I think if you're a guest in America and you step out of line at all, you should be sent back to wherever you came from. But it's also amazing when you think about how it's a revolutionary idea, at least according to Democrats, to kick gang members with felony convictions on their records who are illegals out of the country and back to their country. Right, So this is we have so much work to do on this issue that it's kind of staggering.

Yeah, obviously the left is going to look ridiculous in this. They won't, like you said, deport violent members of cartels. They get bent out of shape when you suggest that. So obviously they're you know, moving over to this. They're not going to feel impetus to do this either. It's just that consistency. I'm sure that there were illegal immigrants who were involved in the BLM riots and the ANTIFA riots, send them home, right like anti American protesters involved in violence, send them home. But do all or nothing. When you pick one particular issue, it looks like favoritism, and it only feeds into the narrative that ultimately the government is more interested in protecting this one particular type of speech or this one particular group in the United States as opposed to protecting all American citizens.

Yeah, obviously the left is going to look ridiculous in this. They won't, like you said, deport violent members of cartels. They get bent out of shape when you suggest that. So obviously they're you know, moving over to this. They're not going to feel impetus to do this either. It's just that consistency. I'm sure that there were illegal immigrants who were involved in the BLM riots and the ANTIFA riots, send them home, right like anti American protesters involved in violence, send them home. But do all or nothing. When you pick one particular issue, it looks like favoritism, and it only feeds into the narrative that ultimately the government is more interested in protecting this one particular type of speech or this one particular group in the United States as opposed to protecting all American citizens.

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Well, obviously, Massey is a libertarian. He is somebody who wears a debt clock on his jacket. This is something he cares about very deeply. And he doesn't approve of the continued spending. He wants to see cuts. He doesn't want to do continuing resolutions without some kind of significant change in the budget or you know, getting getting some kind of victory out of this ultimately for reducing the debt spending. I totally understand that. And here's the thing. I very much respect Thomas Massey. He seems like a decent guy. He seems like a genuine man of honor and principle. That said, does it really matter in this scenario? Is this where the stand needs to be made. That's a question for people to debate. What I don't like is Trump going after Massey and saying he needs to primary him. Obviously, Thomas Massey is one of the best congressmen we have in the United States. It's very clear that again, this is a guy who's standing on a principle, even though if ultimately you might think that in this case it shouldn't be applied or it should be understood in that context that we need to work with what's going on. I think that because Massey's vote is unnecessary to pass the Continuing Resolution, turning him into some kind of villain in this scenario ultimately just doesn't serve the purpose he wanted.

Well, obviously, Massey is a libertarian. He is somebody who wears a debt clock on his jacket. This is something he cares about very deeply. And he doesn't approve of the continued spending. He wants to see cuts. He doesn't want to do continuing resolutions without some kind of significant change in the budget or you know, getting getting some kind of victory out of this ultimately for reducing the debt spending. I totally understand that. And here's the thing. I very much respect Thomas Massey. He seems like a decent guy. He seems like a genuine man of honor and principle. That said, does it really matter in this scenario? Is this where the stand needs to be made. That's a question for people to debate. What I don't like is Trump going after Massey and saying he needs to primary him. Obviously, Thomas Massey is one of the best congressmen we have in the United States. It's very clear that again, this is a guy who's standing on a principle, even though if ultimately you might think that in this case it shouldn't be applied or it should be understood in that context that we need to work with what's going on. I think that because Massey's vote is unnecessary to pass the Continuing Resolution, turning him into some kind of villain in this scenario ultimately just doesn't serve the purpose he wanted.

To And do you think anything substantial changes one way or the other based on the CR. I wish that Congress would do a better job. At least the Republicans in Congress would a better job of telling us if this one is good, why is it good right? Or if this time it's better, what are the reasons for it to be better, so then we have the transparency we need on the outside who vote for these guys to say, Okay, I get why you want to do this or what we're getting out of this, and why we shouldn't have a shutdown situation, because right now it seems to me right Republicans are like, we shouldn't shut down, and Democrats are saying, well, we'll shut things down because they won't negotiate. So explain this one to us.

To And do you think anything substantial changes one way or the other based on the CR. I wish that Congress would do a better job. At least the Republicans in Congress would a better job of telling us if this one is good, why is it good right? Or if this time it's better, what are the reasons for it to be better, so then we have the transparency we need on the outside who vote for these guys to say, Okay, I get why you want to do this or what we're getting out of this, and why we shouldn't have a shutdown situation, because right now it seems to me right Republicans are like, we shouldn't shut down, and Democrats are saying, well, we'll shut things down because they won't negotiate. So explain this one to us.

Obviously, Trump has a lot going on. This is a guy who's moving fast and breaking things, and we like that about him. He is willing to push back against a lot of the agenda that the Democrats have left there in perpetuity. He's willing to defy a number of the agencies and entrenched interests in Washington. And the speed, the rapidity at which he is making these changes is completely throwing the left off. That's great, All of that's fantastic. I think the concern here is that if we get bogged down in any kind of debate over funding, financial matters, these type of things, it's going to kill that momentum. And I'm actually rather sympathetic to this. I want a smaller federal budget, I want smaller government in general. But that's just not the critical issue at this time. I respect Massey for standing on this principle. I understand the critical nature of what he is discussing, But ultimately I do think Trump's agenda of dismantling the deep state, dismantling much of the democratic apparatus, is just way more critical at this moment than getting a concession on spending. That doesn't mean this stuff doesn't matter, but again, the context is very important.

Obviously, Trump has a lot going on. This is a guy who's moving fast and breaking things, and we like that about him. He is willing to push back against a lot of the agenda that the Democrats have left there in perpetuity. He's willing to defy a number of the agencies and entrenched interests in Washington. And the speed, the rapidity at which he is making these changes is completely throwing the left off. That's great, All of that's fantastic. I think the concern here is that if we get bogged down in any kind of debate over funding, financial matters, these type of things, it's going to kill that momentum. And I'm actually rather sympathetic to this. I want a smaller federal budget, I want smaller government in general. But that's just not the critical issue at this time. I respect Massey for standing on this principle. I understand the critical nature of what he is discussing, But ultimately I do think Trump's agenda of dismantling the deep state, dismantling much of the democratic apparatus, is just way more critical at this moment than getting a concession on spending. That doesn't mean this stuff doesn't matter, but again, the context is very important.

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Yeah, I just read a piece on this. I think there's actually a really interesting dynamic going on here. Democrats have been pretty reliant on soft power this whole time. They believe that they could manipulate people through information and propaganda, the educational system, the media that ended up getting to the edge of its ability. We saw this with COVID, how much they stretched the reliability of the institutions they required to do this manipulation. And so they tried to move it into like this kind of quasi hard power. Right, They started arounding up their political opponents. They tried to put Trump in jail, they tried to strip him off the ballot, they tried to shoot him. The FBI was watching, you know, church services, and it was in trying to intimidate parents at you know, school board meetings, and that just didn't work either, And so they screamed fascists. They screamed fascists. They tried to put you know, kind of their hard power tactics into play on the government side, and just none of it worked. Trump won this election with a mandate, both the popular vote and the electoral college. And I think they're just punched out. They don't know what to do. The soft power propaganda manipulation didn't work. The hard power physical violence, threats of violence, police state didn't work. When you're at your end of your rope like that, what can even happen? All they have left to do is scream into the void. And I think that's exactly what we're seeing at this point.

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And what do you want to see Trump focus in on between let's say now and the start of summer, Like, what do you think is the most important place for the administration to spend Is it doge? Is it immigration? Is it the end of the Ukraine War? And what do you want to see? Get the w first and foremost. I know we want to see all these things, right, but what are you really honed in on.

And what do you want to see Trump focus in on between let's say now and the start of summer, Like, what do you think is the most important place for the administration to spend Is it doge? Is it immigration? Is it the end of the Ukraine War? And what do you want to see? Get the w first and foremost. I know we want to see all these things, right, but what are you really honed in on.

It's got to be immigration. Look, the Ukraine War is a bit of a side show at this point. We just saw that the you know, I'm not sure the veracity of these reports yet because they're just coming in, but the possibility that there's a ceasefire in Ukraine that's already negotiated or possibly negotiated. But ultimately, domestically, what has to happen has to be immigration. It has to be deportations. We've seen a great drop in border crossings, which is a huge bonus. Fewer and fewer people are coming in. That's a giant win for the Trump administration. But the other half of this was always the mass deportations. We've seen some of it. We've seen increased numbers. That's good, but is nowhere near the numbers necessary to put out just a tenth of the people who are in the United States. We haven't even deported the number of people that Biden let in, and we won't at this pace during the Trump presidency. Now, not every person has to be physically deported. By having policies like a verification for employers and high taxes on remittances to foreign countries, we can get a lot of immigrants to self deport who aren't supposed to be here. But that pressure has to be applied or we're going to fall behind and Trump is going to fail in that goal.

It's got to be immigration. Look, the Ukraine War is a bit of a side show at this point. We just saw that the you know, I'm not sure the veracity of these reports yet because they're just coming in, but the possibility that there's a ceasefire in Ukraine that's already negotiated or possibly negotiated. But ultimately, domestically, what has to happen has to be immigration. It has to be deportations. We've seen a great drop in border crossings, which is a huge bonus. Fewer and fewer people are coming in. That's a giant win for the Trump administration. But the other half of this was always the mass deportations. We've seen some of it. We've seen increased numbers. That's good, but is nowhere near the numbers necessary to put out just a tenth of the people who are in the United States. We haven't even deported the number of people that Biden let in, and we won't at this pace during the Trump presidency. Now, not every person has to be physically deported. By having policies like a verification for employers and high taxes on remittances to foreign countries, we can get a lot of immigrants to self deport who aren't supposed to be here. But that pressure has to be applied or we're going to fall behind and Trump is going to fail in that goal.

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