Actor and filmmaker Kevin Sorbo joins the show to discuss politics, Hollywood, and independent filmmaking. He shares his perspective on RFK Jr.’s health policies, the entertainment industry's shift away from original ideas, and his experiences with Trump. Sorbo also talks about his independent studio, Sorbo Studios and upcoming projects.
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You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Kevin sorbo joins us. Now you all know him as a filmmaker, an actor, a director, Hercules, the Legendary Journeys, which was a great show, and so many other movies and projects he's been evolved in. Kevin, really, good to see you, man. How are you doing doing great?
You caught me? Is a busy day for me here. I just this is the only hour slot ahead to work out, so so I'm so sweaty. I just finished working out because you know, you got what's that governor from Illinois, JB. Pritz kerk is that Yes, he is not fighting back on RFKSE health policies. And I just want to look as healthy as JB looks. You know, That's what I'm kind of shooting for right now. So feel free to post a picture up on that guy. What a physical specimen, that dude.
I'm a little surprised. I mean, there's so many things that he could do, especially as he's talking about running for president, that he should do, and and it does to be to be at his level of of of weight actually really does affect your health. Uh well, you know, I was going to ask you about the dog stuff, but let me start actually with the RFK junior stuff. What what because you're into MAHA make America healthy again?
What? Yeah?
What? What's top of the agenda as far as you're concerned for RFK to get going with?
You know, it's interesting. He his his people, and then he called me later when he was he was heading to run for president and he asked me if I would support him because we've met a couple of times through the years at charity events, at skiing events and things, and he's he knows ry stand politically. He's always been a very cool guy to me, I mean like always, And so I told him, I said, well, you know, you're still a little too far left for me, but I love some of the stuff you're doing. And because you know, every ever since COVID, when government reared its ugly head and showed how much he loved using fear as a weapon against it's uh, it's people, and I fought back. I got canceled as like most other people did. I mean, Zuckerberg and his minions took me down from posting that truth about all these things. And I got two really good doctor friends of mine. I never will name them, but they told me the whole time that I said, six feet is ridiculous. Yes, masks don't work, Yes, all these things. So I'm posting it because I know doctors agreed with me. But that's what got me pulled out of Facebook. But I got to throw the thing I think that got me almost pulled out of Twitter before Musk bought it. I said, if you want to go rid of COVID, tell the Clinton's COVID's got something on him. It'll be the first virus to mysteriously commit suicide.
COVID's gonna hang itself in a cell with no cameras on suddenly.
Yeah, of course it will, of course it will. No. But I love what he's doing. I love the fact that he's out there and he's brave about doing he's speaking the truth about it, and I love the fact that he mixed it. You're throwing musk in that mix, and I just think it's fantastic. That was showing how much waste is out there. We've all known that. We've all known the government is just a big fat belly pig that just throws money around, you know, fifty million dollars for condom, condoms and gods or whatever it was. I mean, this is just so stupid to me that doing this and there's not a bigger more people aren't upset about it. You know, even even you know, even shouldn't.
Should we all should we all be able to agree Kevin that that money going to scammers from the federal government or dead people or whatever. That's just not good, right, There's there's no good to be achieved from this, So stopping it would be a good thing. But because Elon is doing it on behalf of Trump, now it's not a good thing somehow. That that's that's weird.
You remember, prior to twenty fifteen, everybody wanted Trump on the talk shows, you know, from Oprah to whoever come on my talk show? Do do a cameo in my movie. The minute he said I'm gonna I'm on the you know, we're gonna run for a Republican side, they just went nuts. And it's just it's amazing to me the anger that the people have when they're supposed to be the Party of love. You know, remember the sixties when the whole hippie boom was going on and free love and the rock and roll was exploding, and the whole thing was don't trust a man, don't trust a man. And the first thing that in COVID hit everybody and left said trust a man, trust the government. And it's a laughs maat then and they yell at me to you never question the science, Well, what do you think science is? Science is questioning. That's what it's all about. So the insanity of what they were doing and what the hell the plane and the hypocrisy that they blatantly show every bloody day is just amazing to me.
It's it's craziness. And I will say one thing about about Trump, it's this isn't a complaint, but it has made things a little bit harder. This administration is doing so much so fast that to try to cover it day to day as I do for three hours, we you know, I could have done a whole show today just on what he's doing with the border, immigration enforcement and the EPA. But he's also trying to end the rush of Ukraine war. He's also getting the tariffs going and trying to get more cooperation from Canada and Mexican. I mean, it's it's all cylinders. It's it's pretty amazing to watch.
Well, honestly, can Canada really win this battle? Can Mexico really win? I mean, they both need America more than we need them. And I know they're they'll get hate that because I look, I live in Vancouver five years some of the series shut movies up there. I love it up there. It's a beautiful country. The people I've worked with are fantastic. But the reality is both our countries were as founded around the same time in the late seventeen hundreds. We're three hundred and forty million, they're thirty million. If it was so perfect, their government was so amazing, and the Canadian dream was as big as American dream. How come that country hasn't hasn't grown. There's just not you know, they're dwarf compared to our population. And everybody wants to leave their country. Everybody wants to come to America. There's a reason for that. And now we got all these people that are in America and the ones that move here want to turn us into the countries they left, or turn us into a third world or socialist country. It's amazing.
What do you think Trump? I don't know if you've seen recently, he's brought it up a bunch of times and very clearly, like he says Canada fifty first state in some variation of this. Is he just poking them and being Trump? Or is there more to it than that.
I'm thinking he's poking them. It's kind of I would never let that happen anyway. I just I think it's funny. I get a kick out of it. I don't think I don't believe it for a minute, and it really won't happen, but it's it is fun The guy is actually very funny guy. I've known him for twenty years. When I golfed him the first time back in two thousand and five at lunch, I told him, I said, this is two thousand and five. I said, you know what, I want a businessman to run America. We are a business not a politician that's been in office for thirty forty years. And he said, yeah, that'd be a good idea, not knowing ten years later he was gonna throw his hat in the ring.
Yeah, it's that is one. Actually, I would say there are two things about Trump that are not nearly as widely known as as are known by the people that have actually spent time with him. He's a really warm, nice guy. You know. You see this sort of the bravado and the you know, the bragadocio and everything on TV, and yeah, you know there's there's sure like he's a he's an entertainer, he's a presenter, all that, but he's actually a really you know, I mean I've met him my wife and know with different friends of mine. He is really kind to people in person, but also is really funny, like constantly says funny things.
Yeah, he's very sarcastic and it's funny. You know, when you golf with the guy, he'll get out of his car to you go fast. And the Secret Service. We've got six guys with us all the time in their own golf carts that like the two guys that go ahead to check out. You know, they are the ones that found the gun coming through the fence there on that front nine a Trump International, but they also are there to make sure the people in front know he's coming through. You gotta let him play through. Everyone that you play through he drives up to them, gets out of the cart, shakes everybody's hands, says thanks for being here. Hope to see inside for lunch. Do you think other presidents take the tend to do that. I don't think so. And this is pretty amazing. And he's always been to me, he's always been a pretty cool guy. I saw him the Sunday before he did speak and speak in front of Congress when the Democrats acted like a bunch of seventh grade mean girls, little babies. He saw me. He's walking on the little cat walk up there, he points out him. He has me come over there, shakes my hand. I said, you remember my wife Sam. He goes, of course, he looks here and he says, you know something, Sam, this guy is great, but you're better than he is. So I thought that was pretty funny. He was just giving us a hard time, but he takes the time to do stuff like that.
You know the uh they all had fun with it, So I think I think it's it's something that everyone can kind of laugh about. You know this. There's the All In podcast and one of the guys is Ta math Uh who has you know what I'm talking about? The all David Sachs. You know these guys have a big podcast, yep. But it was funny. They talked about it on their show and it kind of went viral. His little clip that when Trump met Tremath and his wife. This is his second wife, who's like a like a beautiful Italian model, you know, like you know, twenty eight years old or something. And Trump Trump meets ta Math, who you know, is a very smart guy, but he's not about to win, Like he's not about to be cast as Hercules. I'll just put it that way. He's not about to be Hercules. And Trump pulls him aside and goes, you must be really rich. He needs his way, which I this thing is very funny, Very Trump, you know, taken into treum Ath thought it was very funny. You know, everyone had kind of a laugh about it. But that's that's the guy you get with Donald Trump. I saw something really interesting, which is a discussion. I wanted to. I want to get your perspective on this because you you've you're one of the rare ones who has been involved in mass entertainment in a in a very successful way. Obviously you know Hercules. We've talked about before, Massive and syndication, Massive show. I used to watch it when I was a kid or you know, teena. I forget how old I was, but I used to watch the show. And and you've also done more independent projects and have also had success in the independent projects, right, And not a lot of people that have really played in both sides of that. You know, maybe they did something on the on the big sort of mass entertainment side, but they haven't done their on their independent stuff successfully. There was a conversation about in Holly about how in Hollywood and people friends of mine like Jesse Kelly and Matt Walsh over Daily Wire, We're having this exchange on Twitter about how anyone who says that it's okay that Hollywood's out of ideas is just being absurd because there's so many and they started ratting things off. And I've brought this up on my own show before too, Like the Cortes Conquest of Mexico could be the most amazing mini series anybody's ever It's one of the most incredible stories in all history. No one's been you know, Magellan's journey. There was a lot of stuff about the Age of Exploration, for example. But there's so many stories we're founding, so many Why can't this stuff get made still? Or can it get made? Do we need Elon to write a billion dollar check for there to be a studio that can actually do great entertainment? Again, Mel Gibson's talking about Malta. We'll get to that a second. But what do you make of this?
Well, here's the thing. I think in the last fifteen to twenty years, they've been a little more shy about coming more original ideas because they've had success with these Marvel and all that kind of stuff. And I'm gonna have to say, Hercules kick that whole thing off. We shot from ninety three to two thousand. We were the first really actions stuff on TV with a couple spinoffs, and everybody try to copy us from Conan and Robinhood and Tarzan and Sende and all that stuff, and none of those things were going at that time. But once they kicked off, they just made variations of it. You know, they'll do They'll do part two, part three, part four, part five of the same thing over and over again because they make two billion dollars. But even I'm getting tired of watching these things because most of these action movies are about seventy percent you know, watching a video game.
It's all ga way too much GI.
Yeah, so you kind of go, Okay, here we go again. So I think it's starting to dieve a little bit. But I think they're just they keep that cash cow going if it's working. I think the independent world, like where I'm in with my Sorbo Studios. Please go to sorbostudios dot com. We do independent movies, and a lot more independent production companies are also out there, and they're they're a little more original with their ideas and the things they want to put out there. I'm attracted to true life stories. That's kind of what I do. I've got four new movies coming up this here in three documentaries, so I've been blessed to stay busy. I'm gonna direct two more movies this year, and I'm taking off for India to shoot an action movie there later in June. So you know, thank god, I'm still busy because Hollywood kicked me out eleven years ago because he can't be a conservative and a Christian in Hollywood. That's a really bad thing. And it's it's just it's just where they're they're like little children. I think the gays are clearly out of the closet in Hollywood. It's the it's the conservatives there in the closet now, and they got to wake up and stop being afraid.
Do you know Mel at all? Mel Gibson, do you guys have any contact together, because because because he has talked, this has been a dream of mine for I've been so you got to tell him Buck Sexton will will write and consult for free on his Malta project. I've been obsessed with the Siege of Malta for like decades. I have multiple books about it. I love and I've always said this could be an incredible movie because if you put in the proper context, it really was in sort of the same way that they had three hundred, which is about the pass at Thermopylae and late Leonidas, the Spartans. It really was a Western civilization, uh live or die moment, you could argue, because if they had taken Malta, they would have used it as a stage in ground for the invasion of Italy proper. And this was the Ottoman Empire, the most powerful empire in the world at the time. And Mel is now is I've heard he's making the or he's in the process of trying to get a Malta series made. Have you heard anything about that? And if you haven't, I just explained to me. To make that's like a two hundred million dollar movie or maybe a two hundred million dollar you know, limited series five or ten episodes. How do we get that? How do we get that made?
Well? Once again, I find him at Elon Musk for the first time to two weeks ago, and I think it's chanced to talk to that long, but I would you know, I would like a ten million dollar checking out to make movies and I'll get him, get him his money back. I've never lost money from my investors, so we do movies in a three million range. And Mel told me I talked to him about an hour and a half not too long ago. He gave me the whole idea of they've been him and his brother have been writing the sequel to the Passion for the last five years really, and they are going to make that one as well. And he explained that movie to me and I said, Mal, that's one hundred million dollar movies to two hundred million dollar movie, just like the number you mentioned from Multa. I shot a movie in Malta, and that that that little place in the middle of Mediterranean has gone through just attack after attack, centuries after centuries, and uh, it's still there. In the history there, it's unbelievable. I mean there's rooms that are back nine thousand years. So I know that he's he's looking at that as well. So he's got a lot juggling in the air right now. And unfortunately the guy lost his home in the Folcades fire as well, right, so you know, he's got a lot of stuff on his brain.
I'm when it comes to his body of work. I mean, Braveheart is still my probably my favorite movie of all time. Uh, and you know, I just absolutely loved that. I saw when I was in the eighth grade and I've seen it probably one hundred times since then. So he's done. He's done some incredible stuff. I actually think Apocalypto, for what it is is an under an underrated film. It's pretty amazing, actually, you know what he did with that, and to have it all in.
The it was almost it was almost a documentary, yes, yes, you know, and that the kind of.
Feel to fact. So it was in in the native language whatever, you know, whatever it was of the of the you know, the the Aztecs or the Mayas or wherever it was now I forget, but yeah, I just it feels like there's been a change. Are are you? Are you hearing and seeing the change in sentiment from corporate America in this new era of of make of the golden age of America Trump two point zero, Like, there's Jeff Bezos is now at the was at the inauguration, and and you know, suddenly The Apprentice is showing up on Amazon. Like what could you get a meeting now with Bezos or rather with whoever runs you know, Amazon Studios to make to make a series, you know, with with a fifty to one hundred million dollar budget or do you think that that's coming?
Right? I think it's coming and you can. I mean, look, you know Zuckerberg the same way. You know, they did a one one eighty flip when Trump got in office. I don't know if he didn't get in office, I don't think they'd be doing that. I think it's all once again, the the the the the the exposure of the hypocrisy of these people. But I look at it as a positive thing anyway, because Trump sending know Trump effect is real, and these guys. I would love to have meetings with those guys. Like I said, I don't I don't need a two hundred million dollars give it to give it a guy like you know, Mel, Like I said, I like the new movies that our budgets and are managemble, makes sense and can get their money back from my investors. That's the kind of things that I'm doing. But Mel's Mel still got the powers. I got the tops, and he's gonna jump on board and do what he wants. But I know, I know he's gonna do the sequel of Passion for one hundred percent. I just don't think they're going to start that for another year or so.
Wow, that's that's it. That's a I mean, I remember I saw that that's powerful and made it. It was tough, made a tremendous amount of money too, which was interesting because at the time all the critics hated it, you know, but it made like eight hundred million dollars or something.
Well, you know, it's interesting. You know, in the Jewish community, they don't like that that the Pharisees that they had anything to do with Jesus and Jesus getting crucified. Well, the Pharisees are were Jewish, and they had something to do with it. They did not like the man they were threatened by Jesus. So I think they're walking on water. I think most of the Jewish community in Hollywood they play the anti semi card pretty much when it just serves their purpose. I mean, they don't otherwise they did. They just kind of lay back. I don't remember many of them being practiced Jews. And I lived in Hollywood for a long time, and my entire teams, from managers to agents, to publicists to whatever, were Jews, and I go along. I'm just fine. But once I got to a point where they said, oh, you can't work with you anymore. But I've been to Israel like five or six times, and I'll tell you the Jews and Israel loved Trump, so totally opposite with the Jews community in America for some reason. So I wish I could figure that one out. But you know, as I tell my liberal friends, I said, you know, behind closed doors, you're gonna admit to yourselves that Trump's going to make your lives better, but you will never admit it in public.
Oh yeah, No, there's a lot of there's a lot of that going on. Let me tell you. People they're like, yeah, maybe the crazy stuff that was going on with the Biden regime and the dementia puppet and everything, maybe it wasn't such a good idea. Just one more thing for you. I'm just wondering. I know you've you've that's a record that you say you're able to make independent films that make money. Just being able to make independent films is I know people have tried to do this. That's you know, impressive enough, But you've got that where Yeah, it's not easy to do the fact that you actually do it as a capitalist and it's successful, I tip my hat to you on that. But if somebody gave you is is there a historical epic that you would want to do or a project of any kind that you would want to do that if you had whatever budget you needed to do it, you already have in your mind this is what it would be.
Yeah. I would like to redo the musical Jesus Christ Superstar because when the original one came out in seventy seventy one, it was a totally made a modern day. It was totally affected by the hippie movement, the free love movement, and it's just horrible. The soundtrack is fantastic. Andrew Lloyd Weber did an amazing soundtrack. I told I was telling Mell about this. When I said it, he goes, well, good luck for that. But I was just like, I would like to redo it and do it set in biblical times, and I would book all the characters of people that really could sing. I mean, it just there were some great voices in that in the original, but overall it was just it was it was. It was just so bad. It was so it was so dated, and it doesn't need to be dated. I mean, you can go back to the forties and see Casablanca today. It's not dated. It's awesome. It's such a great script. I would love to do Jeremiah Johnson type of movie. I'm a big fan of that Robert Redford movie, and to me, it's but Jesus great superstar. I think for eighty million dollars, I could do a great job with it.
Kevin Sorber, everybody, Kevin, what's your production studio? Where's some folks? Go online to see your next projects and support your work.
Go to Sorbo Studios dot com at sorbostudios dot com. A lot of great things come on the pipeline. I got three great documentaries come down. One deals with the Last Supper. It's called Eating with the Enemy. It's with Brent Miller and Ingenuity Films. I did one with them three years ago called Before the Rath that deals with a second Coming. It was the number one document in Amazon for five months. And I want to give a plug from my buddy, Ian went veteran who does Patriot clothing. Go on his website as well. Great guy and support our events.
Wonderful Kevin, thanks so much for all you do. Good to talk to you.
God bless Thanks.
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