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Good and welcome to real life. And I'm so looking forward to chatting with Pam Corkory tonight. She's been an award winning broadcaster, a TV host, an MP an author, documentary maker, and so much more. Welcome Pam.

Good and welcome to real life. And I'm so looking forward to chatting with Pam Corkory tonight. She's been an award winning broadcaster, a TV host, an MP an author, documentary maker, and so much more. Welcome Pam.

I was thinking, who's he talking about? Yes, it is me, Hello, John. It's quite nice talking to you now, rather than we just kept meeting outside Wars every time. I'm back there.

I was thinking, who's he talking about? Yes, it is me, Hello, John. It's quite nice talking to you now, rather than we just kept meeting outside Wars every time. I'm back there.

That's right. I had a fascinating chat with you the last time outside wall with's, in fact, some of those topics i'd like to talk about tonight. But how are you doing, by the way, how are you keeping?

That's right. I had a fascinating chat with you the last time outside wall with's, in fact, some of those topics i'd like to talk about tonight. But how are you doing, by the way, how are you keeping?

Apart? Oh, that's such a lovely term. How are you keeping? I'm keeping very well. Well. It's been overly hot here lately. We got to like thirty eight degrees and that's very hot, and the humidity at ninety five. You know, it's just that's been a wee bit trying. But apart from that, I'm very very happy.

Apart? Oh, that's such a lovely term. How are you keeping? I'm keeping very well. Well. It's been overly hot here lately. We got to like thirty eight degrees and that's very hot, and the humidity at ninety five. You know, it's just that's been a wee bit trying. But apart from that, I'm very very happy.

You're a dun and girl. How can I handle temperatures like that?

You're a dun and girl. How can I handle temperatures like that?

Well not very well. See um whining to you. I've been whining to everything. No one's gone unscathed. And now are you handling the department?

Well not very well. See um whining to you. I've been whining to everything. No one's gone unscathed. And now are you handling the department?

Yep, Australia's got no surprises for you. You've been there for what thirteen years now?

Yep, Australia's got no surprises for you. You've been there for what thirteen years now?

In total, we've been here about eight years not even in a half. But I did like nine or ten in Sydney many years ago, working for Rupert Murdoch. And I'm still waiting him for him to die, Just to do it now, man, you know.

In total, we've been here about eight years not even in a half. But I did like nine or ten in Sydney many years ago, working for Rupert Murdoch. And I'm still waiting him for him to die, Just to do it now, man, you know.

Do you think that hastened the process?

Do you think that hastened the process?

Though he actually got me sacked from New York, He did a visit through the large organization, the Outlehet and Sydney, and I thought it was funny when I was introduced to him, and I said, well, do I just you you know, on your feet was the story. And he just never took that.

Though he actually got me sacked from New York, He did a visit through the large organization, the Outlehet and Sydney, and I thought it was funny when I was introduced to him, and I said, well, do I just you you know, on your feet was the story. And he just never took that.

Well, he didn't take that. Well okay, yeah, well.

Well, he didn't take that. Well okay, yeah, well.

Now just beside of the point.

Now just beside of the point.

Yes, yes, well, you have perhaps got off side with a few people over the years. We might mention some of those things at some stage, but I'd much rather talk about how you managed to get on side with people, because I was talking to someone who said, you are the most compelling broadcast in New Zealand has ever had. Mine it was Tim Roxbury who really enjoyed working with you.

Yes, yes, well, you have perhaps got off side with a few people over the years. We might mention some of those things at some stage, but I'd much rather talk about how you managed to get on side with people, because I was talking to someone who said, you are the most compelling broadcast in New Zealand has ever had. Mine it was Tim Roxbury who really enjoyed working with you.

Oh, I loved working with Tim.

Oh, I loved working with Tim.

He was really talking you up here, saying that you're absolutely the most intelligent person he's ever met, and so loved working with you. So there you go. He's got a different opinion from Rupert Murdoch. Whose opinion you're going to go with.

He was really talking you up here, saying that you're absolutely the most intelligent person he's ever met, and so loved working with you. So there you go. He's got a different opinion from Rupert Murdoch. Whose opinion you're going to go with.

I'm still worrying who's the dumbers? You know. That's very nice. I mean sometimes I look back and think, how on earth did I get that excellent job? Yeah, I mean once I got it, and once it was and you'll know, once I was listening to people and engaging with them, it was just natural to keep asking questions or that's sad to you And it was the most amazing job.

I'm still worrying who's the dumbers? You know. That's very nice. I mean sometimes I look back and think, how on earth did I get that excellent job? Yeah, I mean once I got it, and once it was and you'll know, once I was listening to people and engaging with them, it was just natural to keep asking questions or that's sad to you And it was the most amazing job.

Well, the thing is, you know, you double the ratings of that show, just as you had when you were working with Paul Henry before and Radio Pacific and things. You know, you really lift ratings and things. And I think it's not only are you great at talking, you are great at listening. I wonder if you're channeling your mother when you do that.

Well, the thing is, you know, you double the ratings of that show, just as you had when you were working with Paul Henry before and Radio Pacific and things. You know, you really lift ratings and things. And I think it's not only are you great at talking, you are great at listening. I wonder if you're channeling your mother when you do that.

Oh, you see, that's a whole No, I have to say. In our family there were three a lot older than me, or quite a bit older, seven ten years and then me I was in the middle, and then another seven years to my younger sister. And during that middle year thing, Mum was just amazing. You know, we discussed politics. Was I was arguing politics in parties we had at home after rugby teams came home and when I was about eleven, and she said, no, if you can, if you can make it sensible, and if you're listening and you're telling it in a respectful way, I'll always let you go, which was horrified the rest of the family. But that's okay. They said the term spoiled that I was spoiled.

Oh, you see, that's a whole No, I have to say. In our family there were three a lot older than me, or quite a bit older, seven ten years and then me I was in the middle, and then another seven years to my younger sister. And during that middle year thing, Mum was just amazing. You know, we discussed politics. Was I was arguing politics in parties we had at home after rugby teams came home and when I was about eleven, and she said, no, if you can, if you can make it sensible, and if you're listening and you're telling it in a respectful way, I'll always let you go, which was horrified the rest of the family. But that's okay. They said the term spoiled that I was spoiled.

Oh and yes, your mom might as well stay with missus McNutt, your mom, and she was a keen Catholic and packed you off to a convent school. And I'm wondering, did you know, did that do any good? How was Saint Philomena's.

Oh and yes, your mom might as well stay with missus McNutt, your mom, and she was a keen Catholic and packed you off to a convent school. And I'm wondering, did you know, did that do any good? How was Saint Philomena's.

For you, I have to say, And Saint Peter Chanel it was right from go five right through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think she was keen so much as you know, that was the obvious place we were going to go to all of us through Catholic schools. But because dad was from Northern Ireland and her people from Southern Ireland, there was still smargie bargie of priests came around saying donate to this and that, and she said, don't push us, you know, as a family here For me, the Irish nuns were I got a very good education. Every person I meet of my age who went to a Catholic school says, says, but we had a great education.

For you, I have to say, And Saint Peter Chanel it was right from go five right through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think she was keen so much as you know, that was the obvious place we were going to go to all of us through Catholic schools. But because dad was from Northern Ireland and her people from Southern Ireland, there was still smargie bargie of priests came around saying donate to this and that, and she said, don't push us, you know, as a family here For me, the Irish nuns were I got a very good education. Every person I meet of my age who went to a Catholic school says, says, but we had a great education.

But they put to put the button because there's the other stuff as well.

But they put to put the button because there's the other stuff as well.

Well you got that, you got the bash, yeah, you know, and not so much in my time. I got a good shaking sometimes that I think of my older sister she I think she was strapped sixty times wow for chewing gum or something like that. And increasingly I found it just what are you doing? Women? You know, a couple of them, you know, they always hide away and you suddenly see that getting married somewhere else. I think Catholicism was quite restrictive. Major field guilt and chain it's based on guilt and shape, and you do your confession and you know, once a week that was ugly. And I didn't even know what to say. In the young years, you know, I lied, I stole money from my mother. They were just given as examples. I just said it every week. I was just little. But as time's gone on, I must say I've left Catholicism, yes holy, and leaving big tie tracks. I think in my departure when I look at the well, when I look at the money and yeah, and all of that, and of course their approach to gay people and people who divorce and all of that, I just think it's another highway, another another show.

Well you got that, you got the bash, yeah, you know, and not so much in my time. I got a good shaking sometimes that I think of my older sister she I think she was strapped sixty times wow for chewing gum or something like that. And increasingly I found it just what are you doing? Women? You know, a couple of them, you know, they always hide away and you suddenly see that getting married somewhere else. I think Catholicism was quite restrictive. Major field guilt and chain it's based on guilt and shape, and you do your confession and you know, once a week that was ugly. And I didn't even know what to say. In the young years, you know, I lied, I stole money from my mother. They were just given as examples. I just said it every week. I was just little. But as time's gone on, I must say I've left Catholicism, yes holy, and leaving big tie tracks. I think in my departure when I look at the well, when I look at the money and yeah, and all of that, and of course their approach to gay people and people who divorce and all of that, I just think it's another highway, another another show.

Right. The reason I sort of mentioned the convent thing, Why did I mention that I had a reason, and that is yeah. I saw you posting a while back that you are very proud that of fourteen years of being clear of what you've described as a fatal and incurable disease in that in your in your you know, your battle with alcoholism, and well done in fourteen years.

Right. The reason I sort of mentioned the convent thing, Why did I mention that I had a reason, and that is yeah. I saw you posting a while back that you are very proud that of fourteen years of being clear of what you've described as a fatal and incurable disease in that in your in your you know, your battle with alcoholism, and well done in fourteen years.

Well and other drugs, and it's actually fifteen and a bit.

Well and other drugs, and it's actually fifteen and a bit.

Now, was the fifteen I'm behind following your.

Now, was the fifteen I'm behind following your.

Posts and blame me ages ago, ages ago. But what an amazing what an amazing Yet and my partner who you.

Posts and blame me ages ago, ages ago. But what an amazing what an amazing Yet and my partner who you.

Know, Oh yeah, I must must help having an in house addictions counselor.

Know, Oh yeah, I must must help having an in house addictions counselor.

But he was an addict as well. That's where we met, right, Okay, we met at meetings, And perhaps.

But he was an addict as well. That's where we met, right, Okay, we met at meetings, And perhaps.

I should disclose I've known Kerry since he was a little boy. But there his dad worked on how orchards, so it was wonderful.

I should disclose I've known Kerry since he was a little boy. But there his dad worked on how orchards, so it was wonderful.

Making that connection.

Making that connection.

By the way, give him my warmest regards. And but no, the reason I mentioned the convent thing was that I can recall in one of the conversations we've had that you were talking about the twelve step program and AA and how useful that was for you. And when I read through what the twelve steps are? The full of God stuff, the full of spiritual stuff. And I'm just wondering how your convent reflexes and the rejection of of your Catholic faith gelled with something that you later on found very useful.

By the way, give him my warmest regards. And but no, the reason I mentioned the convent thing was that I can recall in one of the conversations we've had that you were talking about the twelve step program and AA and how useful that was for you. And when I read through what the twelve steps are? The full of God stuff, the full of spiritual stuff. And I'm just wondering how your convent reflexes and the rejection of of your Catholic faith gelled with something that you later on found very useful.

The big one for me is there's no mention of hell from narcotics and alcohol is both the same drag. Really that thing it is the fact that we need humility that's the main kicker for me of it, you tell a truth, make amends for everything it's done. But the one for me is the higher power. It's called in our thesis of bloody the thing. And to me, that's keeping humble like and if I'm concerned, I will largely like talk to the sky, just go out and go not a bad day. You know that happened. I marked up on that offers that tomorrow and just remember that I'm not that important.

The big one for me is there's no mention of hell from narcotics and alcohol is both the same drag. Really that thing it is the fact that we need humility that's the main kicker for me of it, you tell a truth, make amends for everything it's done. But the one for me is the higher power. It's called in our thesis of bloody the thing. And to me, that's keeping humble like and if I'm concerned, I will largely like talk to the sky, just go out and go not a bad day. You know that happened. I marked up on that offers that tomorrow and just remember that I'm not that important.

So it's that humility thing.

So it's that humility thing.

Okay, yeah, right, is it is to me? It is you know, various ones are different, but that's roughly the thrust of it. I mean I remember someone saying to me, I don't care if it's a palm tree, I'm staying clean or just go and speak the palm tree that day, and it's I mean, it's a great So it's a great organization.

Okay, yeah, right, is it is to me? It is you know, various ones are different, but that's roughly the thrust of it. I mean I remember someone saying to me, I don't care if it's a palm tree, I'm staying clean or just go and speak the palm tree that day, and it's I mean, it's a great So it's a great organization.

Yeah. So it's a little bit different from the theology that mother Eukaria would have taught you.

Yeah. So it's a little bit different from the theology that mother Eukaria would have taught you.

It's a convention mother Ukyria. Yes, I did have a mother Eukyria. Do you know that? Did I tell you that?

It's a convention mother Ukyria. Yes, I did have a mother Eukyria. Do you know that? Did I tell you that?

No? I just dig around. I dig around. I remember she had a great story about what happens if you mark around with the host during during mass Yes.

No? I just dig around. I dig around. I remember she had a great story about what happens if you mark around with the host during during mass Yes.

On you putting stick on your tongue and going perhaps thanks for bringing that up. Awful awful Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

On you putting stick on your tongue and going perhaps thanks for bringing that up. Awful awful Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

Okay, it's probably not even probably not even for broadcasting, is it.

Okay, it's probably not even probably not even for broadcasting, is it.

But but she was the nicest, she was lovely, she was nice.

But but she was the nicest, she was lovely, she was nice.

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Because you feel you feel.

Because you feel you feel.

Welcome back to real life on New Stork, said Bee, I'm delighted to be talking of Pam Corkery. Who's chosen happy and why did you pick that? Pam? I imagine you are happy.

Welcome back to real life on New Stork, said Bee, I'm delighted to be talking of Pam Corkery. Who's chosen happy and why did you pick that? Pam? I imagine you are happy.

I am happy, But you know, no one's ever happy all the time when you just want to slap them. But I just I find around three in the afternoon, because I work from home, I just get a bit morose. And that's the song. I just get up and I know it sounds tragic, but I get up and dance around with the song.

I am happy, But you know, no one's ever happy all the time when you just want to slap them. But I just I find around three in the afternoon, because I work from home, I just get a bit morose. And that's the song. I just get up and I know it sounds tragic, but I get up and dance around with the song.

Hey, that's not tragic. That sounds fantasy is a bit, you know.

Hey, that's not tragic. That sounds fantasy is a bit, you know.

I feel like I feel like some for the sixties, sixties housewife, you know, and Matt king Cole's on there and they're swooning. You know.

I feel like I feel like some for the sixties, sixties housewife, you know, and Matt king Cole's on there and they're swooning. You know.

Well, I saw you Tank going in ba bo guitar and dancing with the stars. Obviously dancing has become part of your world now.

Well, I saw you Tank going in ba bo guitar and dancing with the stars. Obviously dancing has become part of your world now.

Yeah, I haven't really carried it on apart from us here in the lounge room, that happy happy, Well.

Yeah, I haven't really carried it on apart from us here in the lounge room, that happy happy, Well.

Look, I was wondering what other strategies have worked for you in a life that now doesn't need the props of alcohol and drugs. What what strategies do you use to keep yourself, you know, going as you have done now for fifteen years without those props.

Look, I was wondering what other strategies have worked for you in a life that now doesn't need the props of alcohol and drugs. What what strategies do you use to keep yourself, you know, going as you have done now for fifteen years without those props.

Well, just going back to the start, I nearly died, okay, so mostly alcohol.

Well, just going back to the start, I nearly died, okay, so mostly alcohol.

So a fright, A fright is probably part of a strategy.

So a fright, A fright is probably part of a strategy.

Then a fride is very good. And I had already my children had come to me and said, Mum, this is you know, not funny, and I'd say, yes, I'll stop now lying, because you know, if you're compelled to keep drinking. But now I just I suppose I'm clean long enough. If you're a year clean, still difficult. If it's three years clean, maybe still a little bit more difficult, because you've got to uncover stuff about yourself that you sort of I want to say bullshit, but I won't bullshit it your way through life by just covering up since you had done the night before or something. But now I sort of you just live nicely and with gratitude and laugh. I mean, I hadn't laughed like that for a long time. And I remember going out with a narcotics anonymous group. We're going out for a tree, you know, a forest track triump trump tramp tramp, and I was, look at this, there's trees. There's because most of us stay indoors a lot. We look at that star. What the hell the animals? And so all those things were late coming. But I do feel very childlike at the same time as being a grown up.

Then a fride is very good. And I had already my children had come to me and said, Mum, this is you know, not funny, and I'd say, yes, I'll stop now lying, because you know, if you're compelled to keep drinking. But now I just I suppose I'm clean long enough. If you're a year clean, still difficult. If it's three years clean, maybe still a little bit more difficult, because you've got to uncover stuff about yourself that you sort of I want to say bullshit, but I won't bullshit it your way through life by just covering up since you had done the night before or something. But now I sort of you just live nicely and with gratitude and laugh. I mean, I hadn't laughed like that for a long time. And I remember going out with a narcotics anonymous group. We're going out for a tree, you know, a forest track triump trump tramp tramp, and I was, look at this, there's trees. There's because most of us stay indoors a lot. We look at that star. What the hell the animals? And so all those things were late coming. But I do feel very childlike at the same time as being a grown up.

Well that must be quite it's wonderful, It must be quite beautiful at times to actually encounter life like that.

Well that must be quite it's wonderful, It must be quite beautiful at times to actually encounter life like that.

Basically, it is even like Kerrie and I, for example, we know enough. We've been together like fourteen coming up fifteen years, and we know not to go too far. And you know, there's a saying just for to day, just as they carry once said to me, just for the day, get left, and I laughed because it was a great way to deal with an argument. But we don't seem to. It's a funny thing I've learned. I mean, because I've married a lot of times ridiculous amount, and that now I know that I can give and receive love. I just only ever took it. And it's just all those things that have come with being sober.

Basically, it is even like Kerrie and I, for example, we know enough. We've been together like fourteen coming up fifteen years, and we know not to go too far. And you know, there's a saying just for to day, just as they carry once said to me, just for the day, get left, and I laughed because it was a great way to deal with an argument. But we don't seem to. It's a funny thing I've learned. I mean, because I've married a lot of times ridiculous amount, and that now I know that I can give and receive love. I just only ever took it. And it's just all those things that have come with being sober.

There's so many things I admire about Japan, but this ability to continuously learn and learn about love and learn about relationships and learn that there's even a world outside of trees and sky and stuff. That's that's amazing.

There's so many things I admire about Japan, but this ability to continuously learn and learn about love and learn about relationships and learn that there's even a world outside of trees and sky and stuff. That's that's amazing.

That's nice of you to say.

That's nice of you to say.

I watched your incredible journey to Columbia this afternoon just to prep for this, and wow, wow, that was just incredible for a start. Getting shot in Colombia, it hurt, not really hurts, just a bit of a backstory. It was to test a bulletproof vest, which but even so it left a massive great bruise on you.

I watched your incredible journey to Columbia this afternoon just to prep for this, and wow, wow, that was just incredible for a start. Getting shot in Colombia, it hurt, not really hurts, just a bit of a backstory. It was to test a bulletproof vest, which but even so it left a massive great bruise on you.

Oh what, I just thought it was like I'm Italian, it would bounce fast. And I didn't swear when it happened, which I'm so proud of.

Oh what, I just thought it was like I'm Italian, it would bounce fast. And I didn't swear when it happened, which I'm so proud of.

No, because then they would have had to do it again and over.

No, because then they would have had to do it again and over.

My dead body. I loved going there.

My dead body. I loved going there.

Well, But the thing is, what was there to love when you're when you're an inside girl who doesn't do outdoors stuff, who's terrified horses, and you spend five hours on the back of a horse and then tracking, you know, hours and hours up a river and a boat in the middle of the Amazon with bugs and swimming and rivers with piranha and things.

Well, But the thing is, what was there to love when you're when you're an inside girl who doesn't do outdoors stuff, who's terrified horses, and you spend five hours on the back of a horse and then tracking, you know, hours and hours up a river and a boat in the middle of the Amazon with bugs and swimming and rivers with piranha and things.

That was just incredible.

That was just incredible.

And you said you.

And you said you.

Had and a condas would come a swishing by. I think there's enough showers and me to get over. I don't to this day. I don't know how I did that, but I thought that nice, go to Columbia, that'll bit nice. And there was a very good looking guide.

Had and a condas would come a swishing by. I think there's enough showers and me to get over. I don't to this day. I don't know how I did that, but I thought that nice, go to Columbia, that'll bit nice. And there was a very good looking guide.

Oh he looked like Fabio.

Oh he looked like Fabio.

Oh yes, I know you're not telling us anybody.

Oh yes, I know you're not telling us anybody.

So if you've got to be stuck in the middle of it, if you're going to be stuck in the middle of the Amazon with bugs and anacondas and things. You may as well have a dishy looking guide, I suppose. So that was part of the reason you got up that mountain.

So if you've got to be stuck in the middle of it, if you're going to be stuck in the middle of the Amazon with bugs and anacondas and things. You may as well have a dishy looking guide, I suppose. So that was part of the reason you got up that mountain.

Well, it's just popped out of my mouth. Now I'm going to have to explain it to others. You've got to laugh, don't really. I mean, it's a grim time in the world at the moment, it's not does it get.

Well, it's just popped out of my mouth. Now I'm going to have to explain it to others. You've got to laugh, don't really. I mean, it's a grim time in the world at the moment, it's not does it get.

You down the world at the moment.

You down the world at the moment.

It's yeah, yeah it does. But I just like to think this is a cycle we're going through and I'm and it possibly is. You know, it have been changes as things have gone along, but no, it can. I just I just sometimes stop reading it, but only for half a day because it's as long as I can go from not reading news. But yeah, it's it's it's grim, but it's we'll learn from it. But a lot of people are suffering from it.

It's yeah, yeah it does. But I just like to think this is a cycle we're going through and I'm and it possibly is. You know, it have been changes as things have gone along, but no, it can. I just I just sometimes stop reading it, but only for half a day because it's as long as I can go from not reading news. But yeah, it's it's it's grim, but it's we'll learn from it. But a lot of people are suffering from it.

Yeah. Now you're you're a socialist from well probably came out of you at the worm as a socialist and you stood with the Alliance Party and had a term in Parliament and you stood for the Marity.

Yeah. Now you're you're a socialist from well probably came out of you at the worm as a socialist and you stood with the Alliance Party and had a term in Parliament and you stood for the Marity.

You've still got more left, yes, yeah.

You've still got more left, yes, yeah.

They're all towards the left. And do you still have some political fire in your belly. Is there are some issues that you want to engage with and change and have you still got any fight left in you?

They're all towards the left. And do you still have some political fire in your belly. Is there are some issues that you want to engage with and change and have you still got any fight left in you?

I have in that. I don't do Anyone wants my opinion now, but they say with I've got a good group of friends here and we will discuss all of that and as time goes on, you know, I'll go and vote because I've still got my New Zealand tickets and things like that. I don't know what else I can do. I'm very sarcastic when I broadcast about the current government in New Zealand. So I do have outlets and I don't hold back.

I have in that. I don't do Anyone wants my opinion now, but they say with I've got a good group of friends here and we will discuss all of that and as time goes on, you know, I'll go and vote because I've still got my New Zealand tickets and things like that. I don't know what else I can do. I'm very sarcastic when I broadcast about the current government in New Zealand. So I do have outlets and I don't hold back.

Right, You're still doing a bit of broadcasting and a bit of writing and corresponding. No sign of retiring or anything like that. You're still you're still driven in that area. You're still a journalist at heart.

Right, You're still doing a bit of broadcasting and a bit of writing and corresponding. No sign of retiring or anything like that. You're still you're still driven in that area. You're still a journalist at heart.

Not so much a journalist, but I am taking on a sort of writing job.

Not so much a journalist, but I am taking on a sort of writing job.

I've just think, I.

I've just think, I.

Tell you, I have to kill you.

Tell you, I have to kill you.

Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm just sort of thinking. You've got, you know, a career that said, You've hosted a TV show, You've You've produced these wonderful documentaries on gangs and and if we've got more time, we'll talk about that as well, and politics and all these things. When do you feel most like yourself? When? Is what niche do is you know, if you're going to have to pull up one label to stick on yourself, where would you feel most comfortable as Pancorkry. That's a hard one.

Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm just sort of thinking. You've got, you know, a career that said, You've hosted a TV show, You've You've produced these wonderful documentaries on gangs and and if we've got more time, we'll talk about that as well, and politics and all these things. When do you feel most like yourself? When? Is what niche do is you know, if you're going to have to pull up one label to stick on yourself, where would you feel most comfortable as Pancorkry. That's a hard one.

Back now, over all the things I've been lucky to experience, I think it comes back to family. Yeah, that's what it's home down to. I can't fight the battle for everyone. But now I've got these two gorgeous daughters who have successful and blossoming. I've got Terry, I've got sister and nieces here in Queensland. And I can sit with myself. That's the thing I can because I'm here on my own most of the day, and often i'll hide if someone comes to the door, in fact, throwing myself on the floor. But yeah, I think I'm relaxed, which when you're using alcohol and other drugs, none of that evans. So I'm still I suppose cherishing these years. But also you know, I don't think I want to save the world anymore. I'd just like to live a bit longer. But holl if it happens, it will and all that sort of stuff. Living to go to the barrack, I go to just the last thing. I've gone to a lot of marches here, especially for the average and the Indigenous people's rights. I've been to lots of them, yep, but I haven't signed up to anything.

Back now, over all the things I've been lucky to experience, I think it comes back to family. Yeah, that's what it's home down to. I can't fight the battle for everyone. But now I've got these two gorgeous daughters who have successful and blossoming. I've got Terry, I've got sister and nieces here in Queensland. And I can sit with myself. That's the thing I can because I'm here on my own most of the day, and often i'll hide if someone comes to the door, in fact, throwing myself on the floor. But yeah, I think I'm relaxed, which when you're using alcohol and other drugs, none of that evans. So I'm still I suppose cherishing these years. But also you know, I don't think I want to save the world anymore. I'd just like to live a bit longer. But holl if it happens, it will and all that sort of stuff. Living to go to the barrack, I go to just the last thing. I've gone to a lot of marches here, especially for the average and the Indigenous people's rights. I've been to lots of them, yep, but I haven't signed up to anything.

Right. Well, living successfully with serenity and gratitude like you seem to be doing, I think that's going to change the world. Pen. I mean, it's probably going to be to a slightly smaller audience than when you're broadcasting, but they're still making a difference. I'm sure, Lovely. It's been so nice talking to you, and I'm sure our paths will continue to cross as they have occasionally over the years. And wish you all the best and give my best to carry as well. Hey, what song are we going out on? What song? Is this?

Right. Well, living successfully with serenity and gratitude like you seem to be doing, I think that's going to change the world. Pen. I mean, it's probably going to be to a slightly smaller audience than when you're broadcasting, but they're still making a difference. I'm sure, Lovely. It's been so nice talking to you, and I'm sure our paths will continue to cross as they have occasionally over the years. And wish you all the best and give my best to carry as well. Hey, what song are we going out on? What song? Is this?

The High Woman? There's just four great singers, and I love the song and it's about all the things he could be and he won't die and all of that. But I just love Johnny Cash. Call me crazy. It goes from money into another yep.

The High Woman? There's just four great singers, and I love the song and it's about all the things he could be and he won't die and all of that. But I just love Johnny Cash. Call me crazy. It goes from money into another yep.

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