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Gooday, welcome to real Life. I'm John Cowner. My guest tonight was incredibly successful as a pop an, R and B singer, and along with a lot of other things in her life, she's had a great career now in radio. Kaylee McNabb, Welcome, Kayleie. It's great to have you in real.

Gooday, welcome to real Life. I'm John Cowner. My guest tonight was incredibly successful as a pop an, R and B singer, and along with a lot of other things in her life, she's had a great career now in radio. Kaylee McNabb, Welcome, Kayleie. It's great to have you in real.

Life, Yoda. Thank you for having me.

Life, Yoda. Thank you for having me.

And your world just keeps on spinning and going on, and there's new stuff happening all the time. You know, when I thought, when I was told, you know, how are you going to be interviewing Kaylee? I thought, Okay, we'll talk about a pop career from say twenty years ago. And then and then I started looking what else you've done and just in the last six months, I mean, we could fill up the whole show just talking about that. For instance, baby number.

And your world just keeps on spinning and going on, and there's new stuff happening all the time. You know, when I thought, when I was told, you know, how are you going to be interviewing Kaylee? I thought, Okay, we'll talk about a pop career from say twenty years ago. And then and then I started looking what else you've done and just in the last six months, I mean, we could fill up the whole show just talking about that. For instance, baby number.

Six, Yes, yes, yes, I just had a baby.

Six, Yes, yes, yes, I just had a baby.

He's seven months now, yeah, little Maker, and he is an absolute dream. He's such a beautiful baby and we're really really lucky, and I think I was lucky this time to make it to thirty four weeks, especially after the rigamarole I've had with my previous daughter. And so, yeah, he's absolutely beautiful. And yeah, I mean my husband are playing tag team at the moment as I do breakfast on Flavor and I do Breakfast Radio, and you know, we're making a work.

He's seven months now, yeah, little Maker, and he is an absolute dream. He's such a beautiful baby and we're really really lucky, and I think I was lucky this time to make it to thirty four weeks, especially after the rigamarole I've had with my previous daughter. And so, yeah, he's absolutely beautiful. And yeah, I mean my husband are playing tag team at the moment as I do breakfast on Flavor and I do Breakfast Radio, and you know, we're making a work.

We make it work. It's a beautiful thing.

We make it work. It's a beautiful thing.

Oh, that's great, that's great. You mentioned some difficulties with pregnancies, and I was reading about your struggles with Honor. Isn't it your daughter? And she was how many weeks when she was born?

Oh, that's great, that's great. You mentioned some difficulties with pregnancies, and I was reading about your struggles with Honor. Isn't it your daughter? And she was how many weeks when she was born?

She was so my waters broke at twenty three weeks.

She was so my waters broke at twenty three weeks.

That'd be concerning.

That'd be concerning.

Yeah, yeah, it was quite I mean, once we got over the excitement, oh we could have a baby, we thought, hold on, this is actually quite scary because the things that the doctors were telling us, we almost already we were like, Okay, this is not as exciting.

Yeah, yeah, it was quite I mean, once we got over the excitement, oh we could have a baby, we thought, hold on, this is actually quite scary because the things that the doctors were telling us, we almost already we were like, Okay, this is not as exciting.

As we should be, and this is actually really scary.

As we should be, and this is actually really scary.

And there was a huge it was actually a really morbid chat every day for about six weeks until I got to thirty weeks, and I didn't actually make it to the full thirty weeks. So I got to twenty nine and four and she decided to come. She is really really strong and healthy, but the first two years of her life were very, very, very difficult.

And there was a huge it was actually a really morbid chat every day for about six weeks until I got to thirty weeks, and I didn't actually make it to the full thirty weeks. So I got to twenty nine and four and she decided to come. She is really really strong and healthy, but the first two years of her life were very, very, very difficult.

She got or something and then.

She got or something and then.

Yeah, she almost died three times RSV. Like you said, the common cold, pneumonia, yeah, just in rhinovirus, yeah, you name it. She would catch it and we would end up in hospital on the respirator and oxygen and we'd be back at square one every single time. It was really a testing and trying time for our family.

Yeah, she almost died three times RSV. Like you said, the common cold, pneumonia, yeah, just in rhinovirus, yeah, you name it. She would catch it and we would end up in hospital on the respirator and oxygen and we'd be back at square one every single time. It was really a testing and trying time for our family.

But you know, we persevered, and you've got a healthy little girl now.

But you know, we persevered, and you've got a healthy little girl now.

Oh she is feisty. She is healthy, She is headstrong and independent, and you look at her and you think she wasn't this little girl that was gasping for life.

Oh she is feisty. She is healthy, She is headstrong and independent, and you look at her and you think she wasn't this little girl that was gasping for life.

You know, that's amazing.

You know, that's amazing.

Yeah, she is now.

Yeah, she is now.

One of the things that I do recall reading about that time was that you had mention your trust, your faith, your prayers at that time.

One of the things that I do recall reading about that time was that you had mention your trust, your faith, your prayers at that time.

Yeah, I think that was probably the It wasn't the first time that I'd really dug deep into my faith, but at one of the most important times that I really just had to really stop and just really hand it over to God and just be like, please, I really need you to really just keep her in, don't let her come out. Let these doctors do their magic and stop my labors from happening. And then I managed to keep her in until we're twenty nine weeks. And you know, if you think about it, this, I went in in the hospital in December before Christmas twenty first, I think it was I had her seventh of February. We didn't leave the hospital until May, and then four months later we were back in hospital, you know, praying for her life again. So it just goes to show that, you know, it was a huge trust in God's direction and where he was taking us. And I had loads of loads and loads of our friends in far No. We had prayer communities around Auckland, around New Zealand, praying for our little girl and for her to be strong enough to leave the hospital at several different times, and we would play music. We would play gospel music, you know, and it was just such a really beautiful time in my life where I really just I really lent into that faith that I had and my husband's as well. And I think it wasn't until then we hadn't really been open with each other about where our own personal faith were. And as we came into that situation, even Honor being our fifth child together where it was probably the first time that we actually held hands and we prayed over her together, you know, and we really just you know, took away, it took away all the walls, the barriers on what each other believed and how each other were brought up, and we just really leant into that and we trusted God had had us, had our family, had our relationship, and had our daughter. And it was a beautiful and it is a beautiful moment, and it is a beautiful journey, and it still continues on. You know, we're ever so grateful, which she just celebrated her fourth birthday, and you know, we've got a cake for her at home and at dinner. You know, our children do cut a care and they're thanking God for Honor's health and for Honor for being here. So you know, it's still an ongoing thing that we continue to give praise for.

Yeah, I think that was probably the It wasn't the first time that I'd really dug deep into my faith, but at one of the most important times that I really just had to really stop and just really hand it over to God and just be like, please, I really need you to really just keep her in, don't let her come out. Let these doctors do their magic and stop my labors from happening. And then I managed to keep her in until we're twenty nine weeks. And you know, if you think about it, this, I went in in the hospital in December before Christmas twenty first, I think it was I had her seventh of February. We didn't leave the hospital until May, and then four months later we were back in hospital, you know, praying for her life again. So it just goes to show that, you know, it was a huge trust in God's direction and where he was taking us. And I had loads of loads and loads of our friends in far No. We had prayer communities around Auckland, around New Zealand, praying for our little girl and for her to be strong enough to leave the hospital at several different times, and we would play music. We would play gospel music, you know, and it was just such a really beautiful time in my life where I really just I really lent into that faith that I had and my husband's as well. And I think it wasn't until then we hadn't really been open with each other about where our own personal faith were. And as we came into that situation, even Honor being our fifth child together where it was probably the first time that we actually held hands and we prayed over her together, you know, and we really just you know, took away, it took away all the walls, the barriers on what each other believed and how each other were brought up, and we just really leant into that and we trusted God had had us, had our family, had our relationship, and had our daughter. And it was a beautiful and it is a beautiful moment, and it is a beautiful journey, and it still continues on. You know, we're ever so grateful, which she just celebrated her fourth birthday, and you know, we've got a cake for her at home and at dinner. You know, our children do cut a care and they're thanking God for Honor's health and for Honor for being here. So you know, it's still an ongoing thing that we continue to give praise for.

How you've drawn other people into that as well. I think I read a story about some doctors coming at you have a great, big needle. I think a lot of people would pray if I see a doctor coming at them with a big needle, that you got him to pray.

How you've drawn other people into that as well. I think I read a story about some doctors coming at you have a great, big needle. I think a lot of people would pray if I see a doctor coming at them with a big needle, that you got him to pray.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So with number six, Micah, I ended up. I was thirty four weeks and I went into labor. I had been sitting in hospital for a couple of weeks already, yep. And my labor started and he was stuck right into my ribs, and because he was so small, I wasn't able to give birth to him naturally. They had to get him out as soon as possible. So they rushed me straight forward, bumped me right into the front of the line to go in and to have a sea section. And I get there and you know, all the doctors are setting up, the nurses are sitting up, and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I'm doing this again. This is the second time I've had to go for a sea section. And I was like, oh, please, please please. So they get me ready in the gown. I got my my husband and his little scrubs and everything. He's got the things on the nurses there, and I just looked at him.

So with number six, Micah, I ended up. I was thirty four weeks and I went into labor. I had been sitting in hospital for a couple of weeks already, yep. And my labor started and he was stuck right into my ribs, and because he was so small, I wasn't able to give birth to him naturally. They had to get him out as soon as possible. So they rushed me straight forward, bumped me right into the front of the line to go in and to have a sea section. And I get there and you know, all the doctors are setting up, the nurses are sitting up, and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I'm doing this again. This is the second time I've had to go for a sea section. And I was like, oh, please, please please. So they get me ready in the gown. I got my my husband and his little scrubs and everything. He's got the things on the nurses there, and I just looked at him.

And I said, can we do a cut? A care?

And I said, can we do a cut? A care?

So we're in there and the nurse is standing there with us, and she's allowing us to do this, and at the end she says Amen. I don't know if she's Christian, god fearing or whatever. I'm like, thank you, thank you so much for allowing us to do that or God. We go rolling into the theater and I see this man standing there and I see this big ass needle sitting on the table and he's doing all these tests and stuff, and he's putting the getting the IV ready and stuff. And he's like, okay, okay, you're gonna sit on the end of the bed. Grab a hold of the pillow. And I was like, whoa, wa wa wa, whoa.

So we're in there and the nurse is standing there with us, and she's allowing us to do this, and at the end she says Amen. I don't know if she's Christian, god fearing or whatever. I'm like, thank you, thank you so much for allowing us to do that or God. We go rolling into the theater and I see this man standing there and I see this big ass needle sitting on the table and he's doing all these tests and stuff, and he's putting the getting the IV ready and stuff. And he's like, okay, okay, you're gonna sit on the end of the bed. Grab a hold of the pillow. And I was like, whoa, wa wa wa, whoa.

Just just hold up folk, like maybe two minutes.

Just just hold up folk, like maybe two minutes.

Look, you're Maldy. I'm Maldy. I just I need to ask God to be in this room with us right now. I want my baby. We didn't know if it was a boy or girl. I was like, I just want my baby to be healthy and I need to be able to survive this.

Look, you're Maldy. I'm Maldy. I just I need to ask God to be in this room with us right now. I want my baby. We didn't know if it was a boy or girl. I was like, I just want my baby to be healthy and I need to be able to survive this.

Yeah, you know, I didn't know what they were going to do.

Yeah, you know, I didn't know what they were going to do.

It's harder the second time round when you have a C section, and the third, fourth, first anytime after that. So I just wanted to be you know thing. I said, do you mind if maybe we do a cut of care? And he was like, oh, of course, of course.

It's harder the second time round when you have a C section, and the third, fourth, first anytime after that. So I just wanted to be you know thing. I said, do you mind if maybe we do a cut of care? And he was like, oh, of course, of course.

He took his head off, he took his little scrub head off and he was like right there.

He took his head off, he took his little scrub head off and he was like right there.

And my husband led us in a cut of care and everything and at the end he goes, oh, Calda, you know, ready to go, and I you know, it just it's amazing how just a little prayer, just a little belief and a little ask of you know, divine intervenure.

And my husband led us in a cut of care and everything and at the end he goes, oh, Calda, you know, ready to go, and I you know, it just it's amazing how just a little prayer, just a little belief and a little ask of you know, divine intervenure.

It's interesting that you're saying this is perhaps not the first time, but it is something a bit of a renaissance. I mean, for a lot of people, face sort of sometimes trails off a little bit as people get older and it's more cynical and everything like this, but yours sounds like it's it's developing.

It's interesting that you're saying this is perhaps not the first time, but it is something a bit of a renaissance. I mean, for a lot of people, face sort of sometimes trails off a little bit as people get older and it's more cynical and everything like this, but yours sounds like it's it's developing.

Yeah, yeah, I would say there, yeah, yeah, I would definitely say that.

Yeah, yeah, I would say there, yeah, yeah, I would definitely say that.

And I think the more that I learned to trust in you know, God and what He's got planned for me, then the more that I get to see the beauty in what I actually have around me. And I think that's the that's the that's the essence of it, because then you're not shrouded by they have and have not looking at other people's relationships, families, jobs, going why don't I have that?

And I think the more that I learned to trust in you know, God and what He's got planned for me, then the more that I get to see the beauty in what I actually have around me. And I think that's the that's the that's the essence of it, because then you're not shrouded by they have and have not looking at other people's relationships, families, jobs, going why don't I have that?

Why don't Why am I not getting that? Why am I not doing this?

Why don't Why am I not getting that? Why am I not doing this?

You know?

You know?

And you start to look inwards, and you go, where is my where's my love? Where's my faith? Where's my gratitude, where's my appreciation?

And you start to look inwards, and you go, where is my where's my love? Where's my faith? Where's my gratitude, where's my appreciation?

You know? Where Where am I am I?

You know? Where Where am I am I?

You know?

You know?

Happy?

Happy?

Am I grateful for the things that I have around me? And you start to take notice of all the great things that you have around you, and therefore you start going, actually, I'm I'm good.

Am I grateful for the things that I have around me? And you start to take notice of all the great things that you have around you, and therefore you start going, actually, I'm I'm good.

I'm happy. God's got me. Life is good.

I'm happy. God's got me. Life is good.

If you've just tuned in. My guest tonight is Kaylee McNabb, who has a career and music and a radio star and on Flavor Breakfast host on Flavor Now.

If you've just tuned in. My guest tonight is Kaylee McNabb, who has a career and music and a radio star and on Flavor Breakfast host on Flavor Now.

Yeah, I'm a big fruit salad of talent.

Yeah, I'm a big fruit salad of talent.

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That the soul. Of course you remember it. Of course you remember it.

That the soul. Of course you remember it. Of course you remember it.

Open up letters just in case you thought, just in case yeah, I mean it was.

Open up letters just in case you thought, just in case yeah, I mean it was.

It was like twenty one plus years ago. Everyone's like, wow, you can still sing like that. Well, I haven't actually stopped singing.

It was like twenty one plus years ago. Everyone's like, wow, you can still sing like that. Well, I haven't actually stopped singing.

Oh that's great, that's very good to hear, now, Kayleie, that was you singing in two thousand and one. And looking back at the YouTube videos and which I've had a lot of fun doing, going back over your music and videos and things, and there's this incredibly mature, poised performer. And then I look in the night notes and you are sixteen. Yeah, yeah, sixteen. How does a sixteen year old get on to that level of success? Because that was number two, and then your album came out and it was in the top top lists for.

Oh that's great, that's very good to hear, now, Kayleie, that was you singing in two thousand and one. And looking back at the YouTube videos and which I've had a lot of fun doing, going back over your music and videos and things, and there's this incredibly mature, poised performer. And then I look in the night notes and you are sixteen. Yeah, yeah, sixteen. How does a sixteen year old get on to that level of success? Because that was number two, and then your album came out and it was in the top top lists for.

What's seven your top ten album it was I think it was number four.

What's seven your top ten album it was I think it was number four.

I think the most of number three. Four.

I think the most of number three. Four.

Anyhow, you had a great career there with I think four top ten hits and things. Sixteen, you're still at school.

Anyhow, you had a great career there with I think four top ten hits and things. Sixteen, you're still at school.

Or credit to Matty J. Matty J. Rise, Yes, yeah, or credit to him.

Or credit to Matty J. Matty J. Rise, Yes, yeah, or credit to him.

He obviously his amazing air for music and an incredible writer, incredible producer. He's still producing and writing to this day as he travels and lives around the world abroad okay, yeah.

He obviously his amazing air for music and an incredible writer, incredible producer. He's still producing and writing to this day as he travels and lives around the world abroad okay, yeah.

Good to give them some everything like that, but you had the voice.

Good to give them some everything like that, but you had the voice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, look, my my Cord always used to tell me, but make sure you have great stories to tell your grandchildren. Go and live a life. Life is for the living. And my grandmother, she always used to tell me, what is the point of not doing trying something if you've never tried it before. You can't say no to something if you haven't already tried it before.

Well, look, my my Cord always used to tell me, but make sure you have great stories to tell your grandchildren. Go and live a life. Life is for the living. And my grandmother, she always used to tell me, what is the point of not doing trying something if you've never tried it before. You can't say no to something if you haven't already tried it before.

Is this the grandma that just died recently? Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the jays of you. I noticed it in my quarter as well.

Is this the grandma that just died recently? Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the jays of you. I noticed it in my quarter as well.

Yeah, and so I just I've always I've always just taken life like that. Then, you know, make sure I have great stories to tell my grandchildren, to tell my children to.

Yeah, and so I just I've always I've always just taken life like that. Then, you know, make sure I have great stories to tell my grandchildren, to tell my children to.

Tell you guys, well, what of these videos that I've been looking at that you wasn't a long Bethel's beach and in a land cruiser and things with a whole lot of people in bikinis and dancing in caves and bonfires and stuff like that. At sixteen, that must have you must have been thinking this is such a buzz all. You're thinking this is actually hard work.

Tell you guys, well, what of these videos that I've been looking at that you wasn't a long Bethel's beach and in a land cruiser and things with a whole lot of people in bikinis and dancing in caves and bonfires and stuff like that. At sixteen, that must have you must have been thinking this is such a buzz all. You're thinking this is actually hard work.

Oh no, no, it was all fun. It was totally. It was totally fun. It's totally fun. Yeah, waking up at four am in the morning and having a you know, twenty two hour shoot. It was all fun, especially when you're getting smoked out by putting bonfires and the bath in the cave and trying to quickly get the shots and that you needed to before the cave filled up with water.

Oh no, no, it was all fun. It was totally. It was totally fun. It's totally fun. Yeah, waking up at four am in the morning and having a you know, twenty two hour shoot. It was all fun, especially when you're getting smoked out by putting bonfires and the bath in the cave and trying to quickly get the shots and that you needed to before the cave filled up with water.

Oh an increasing video.

Oh an increasing video.

Oh no, well it actually did in the end, and we ended up having to vacate the cave, but we had shot all the shots by then. No, doing the video clips and doing the tours, getting to tour with amazing artists like at Pink Cypress, hell, you know Missy Elliott, Shaggy, Yeah, just to name a few, like great, great, great memories, great some. I forget that I've done that kind of stuff. I actually forget that I've done all of that.

Oh no, well it actually did in the end, and we ended up having to vacate the cave, but we had shot all the shots by then. No, doing the video clips and doing the tours, getting to tour with amazing artists like at Pink Cypress, hell, you know Missy Elliott, Shaggy, Yeah, just to name a few, like great, great, great memories, great some. I forget that I've done that kind of stuff. I actually forget that I've done all of that.

Now at sixteen, you want a typical sixteen year old, because you've been playing in clubs and bars and things, are you. Yeah, the fast far the button.

Now at sixteen, you want a typical sixteen year old, because you've been playing in clubs and bars and things, are you. Yeah, the fast far the button.

Well, I wasn't going there to drink that alcohol, that's for sure.

Well, I wasn't going there to drink that alcohol, that's for sure.

No, no, no, So I had to fudge a little and say that I was, you know, seventeen and that I was, indeed, you know, old enough to go and you know play in these bars. Wasn't drinking obviously, so I just wanted to go and play. I just wanted to go and sing, So I was jamming with live bands. It wasn't until my PE teacher saw me and was like, what are you doing in this bar? I was sir, I'm jamming with the band, and he was like, you better be at school for PE tomorrow and I need that assessment.

No, no, no, So I had to fudge a little and say that I was, you know, seventeen and that I was, indeed, you know, old enough to go and you know play in these bars. Wasn't drinking obviously, so I just wanted to go and play. I just wanted to go and sing, So I was jamming with live bands. It wasn't until my PE teacher saw me and was like, what are you doing in this bar? I was sir, I'm jamming with the band, and he was like, you better be at school for PE tomorrow and I need that assessment.

I was like, right, yeah about that.

I was like, right, yeah about that.

Now, there's also some grittiness in those songs and talking about being cheated on by your boyfriend and things. Now I want to come back to that because you just got married recently. Yeah, and it looked like a wonderful wedding.

Now, there's also some grittiness in those songs and talking about being cheated on by your boyfriend and things. Now I want to come back to that because you just got married recently. Yeah, and it looked like a wonderful wedding.

And finally, finally.

And finally, finally.

Well that's the thing. You have been with Lama eleven years, you have four babies together, you'd and modern couples can enjoy life together without a wedding ceremony. What was it about formal marriage that says something about what you want your relationship to be or is or or whatever. Why'd you decide after eleven years together to get married?

Well that's the thing. You have been with Lama eleven years, you have four babies together, you'd and modern couples can enjoy life together without a wedding ceremony. What was it about formal marriage that says something about what you want your relationship to be or is or or whatever. Why'd you decide after eleven years together to get married?

Well, I mean, yeah, we've been together for eleven years.

Well, I mean, yeah, we've been together for eleven years.

We were engaged for seven.

We were engaged for seven.

Okay, so we actually got engaged after we came out of that first lockdown and I found out that I was pregnant. So those kind of things kind of hindered actually going forth with a wedding. And at first he had things that he wanted to achieve, and so I had just given up by their Now, marriage.

Okay, so we actually got engaged after we came out of that first lockdown and I found out that I was pregnant. So those kind of things kind of hindered actually going forth with a wedding. And at first he had things that he wanted to achieve, and so I had just given up by their Now, marriage.

Has always been on the agenda for you.

Has always been on the agenda for you.

No, No, I actually never wanted to get married. Really, no, No, is.

No, No, I actually never wanted to get married. Really, no, No, is.

That because you had had some cyings and you had been stomped around, you know, your hard had been stopped on.

That because you had had some cyings and you had been stomped around, you know, your hard had been stopped on.

Well, you know, they're actually my older two children.

Well, you know, they're actually my older two children.

The relationship to their father that was a really horrific relationship and it was quite physical and mental and emotionally you know, abusive, and so coming out of that, I was just quite happy just to you know, be with someone who made me happy and just didn't have any type of like full on, you've got to be here, I've got to be here.

The relationship to their father that was a really horrific relationship and it was quite physical and mental and emotionally you know, abusive, and so coming out of that, I was just quite happy just to you know, be with someone who made me happy and just didn't have any type of like full on, you've got to be here, I've got to be here.

It's a contract.

It's a contract.

And then we had a child and then we're like, okay, we're really doing this. This is actually like we're actually in this now, you know, we're tied to each other. Then we decided to have another child, and it kind of got to the point where the kids we've been asking us, and I had to actually think about to myself, like what did marriage actually mean to me? And at that point, it meant the unity of our family together because we are a blended family. And like all props to my husband, he has been my rock and actually the person who's really showed me that this is actually what a relationship is, this is what love is. And my notion of what love was before that. I mean, as you can tell from all the songs like one plus one, it's it's cynical, yeah, yeah, and it was very I guess at that point where I don't need a man.

And then we had a child and then we're like, okay, we're really doing this. This is actually like we're actually in this now, you know, we're tied to each other. Then we decided to have another child, and it kind of got to the point where the kids we've been asking us, and I had to actually think about to myself, like what did marriage actually mean to me? And at that point, it meant the unity of our family together because we are a blended family. And like all props to my husband, he has been my rock and actually the person who's really showed me that this is actually what a relationship is, this is what love is. And my notion of what love was before that. I mean, as you can tell from all the songs like one plus one, it's it's cynical, yeah, yeah, and it was very I guess at that point where I don't need a man.

I don't need any of that, you know. And and and once.

I don't need any of that, you know. And and and once.

I got out of that relationship with my older kid's dad, I was firm in that, like I didn't need a man. I didn't want to go through that turmoil again. I didn't want to have to go through being black and blue and you know I have to go through that roller. No, no, So I found I found trust again after that, I found what it meant to be in a real relationship, in an adult relationship.

I got out of that relationship with my older kid's dad, I was firm in that, like I didn't need a man. I didn't want to go through that turmoil again. I didn't want to have to go through being black and blue and you know I have to go through that roller. No, no, So I found I found trust again after that, I found what it meant to be in a real relationship, in an adult relationship.

Now that abuse of relationship that was part of your American experience. You went off to the s and it must have seemed like you're verging on the big time.

Now that abuse of relationship that was part of your American experience. You went off to the s and it must have seemed like you're verging on the big time.

There no, actually, no, no, it is you know, everyone thinks like, oh my gosh, you've had the big time.

There no, actually, no, no, it is you know, everyone thinks like, oh my gosh, you've had the big time.

You've moved to America.

You've moved to America.

You start at ground zero, and it was really hard and I think to take the rose tint glasses off, you have to learn to trust people. And the way that people going like it just it wasn't all smelling roses for me. The people that I came across weren't the most savory of people.

You start at ground zero, and it was really hard and I think to take the rose tint glasses off, you have to learn to trust people. And the way that people going like it just it wasn't all smelling roses for me. The people that I came across weren't the most savory of people.

It sounds like some of them were jolly unsavory. If your house is getting shot up and you're getting kidnapped, yeah, well those things happen.

It sounds like some of them were jolly unsavory. If your house is getting shot up and you're getting kidnapped, yeah, well those things happen.

Yeah, those things actually happened, you know, and it's quite a natural thing.

Yeah, those things actually happened, you know, and it's quite a natural thing.

It's quite a common thing.

It's quite a common thing.

It's normal thing over in America when you're living in Long Beach, California, or watts or Compton, and you know, it's it's normal over there.

It's normal thing over in America when you're living in Long Beach, California, or watts or Compton, and you know, it's it's normal over there.

Because it's like at least one of those stories house getting shot up.

Because it's like at least one of those stories house getting shot up.

Oh look, we were moving out of the house at the time, so the house got shown up and everything. But the one I think the the more I guess, the more vivid one is the one where I was kidnapped and held a gunpoint for twelve hours, and I ended up telling him that I was HIV positive because that's all I could think of, chlamydia or AIDS, and you can get rid of lamydia.

Oh look, we were moving out of the house at the time, so the house got shown up and everything. But the one I think the the more I guess, the more vivid one is the one where I was kidnapped and held a gunpoint for twelve hours, and I ended up telling him that I was HIV positive because that's all I could think of, chlamydia or AIDS, and you can get rid of lamydia.

So and he let me go.

So and he let me go.

He let me go, and I was able to flag down a couple of cars that were inside the park carrier. Two of them wound up the windows and locked their doors on me. And it wasn't until it was an old Mexican man and he I was like dumb love ballas yet and he gave.

He let me go, and I was able to flag down a couple of cars that were inside the park carrier. Two of them wound up the windows and locked their doors on me. And it wasn't until it was an old Mexican man and he I was like dumb love ballas yet and he gave.

Me his phone.

Me his phone.

I rang the police, and it just so happened that the park ranger was also riding through there, and he got on the sirens that men ended up being he was found barricaded in the house and they found him and I went to court and to tell my story to a jury.

I rang the police, and it just so happened that the park ranger was also riding through there, and he got on the sirens that men ended up being he was found barricaded in the house and they found him and I went to court and to tell my story to a jury.

You know.

You know.

So these are the kind of things that is.

So these are the kind of things that is.

You got rescued. Now, looking at the pictures of your wedding, there's another rescue person, a rescuing person there Nixon doing here was the celebrant at your wedding. Nicest guy you ever meet. He came over to American and rescued you.

You got rescued. Now, looking at the pictures of your wedding, there's another rescue person, a rescuing person there Nixon doing here was the celebrant at your wedding. Nicest guy you ever meet. He came over to American and rescued you.

Yeah he did so. He actually messaged me.

Yeah he did so. He actually messaged me.

I had left the kid's dad at that time, and it just so happened divine intervention.

I had left the kid's dad at that time, and it just so happened divine intervention.

Thank you Lord.

Thank you Lord.

I remembered my log into my Facebook page and hello he Within two seconds of me logging into Facebook, I get a message notification. Turn on the message, Hey sis, when do you think you're coming back to New Zealand? Remember how we always said we'd love to do a radio show together? And I thought, yep, this is that's a sign. That is the sign that I need to get up and out of here.

I remembered my log into my Facebook page and hello he Within two seconds of me logging into Facebook, I get a message notification. Turn on the message, Hey sis, when do you think you're coming back to New Zealand? Remember how we always said we'd love to do a radio show together? And I thought, yep, this is that's a sign. That is the sign that I need to get up and out of here.

And then basically you got you back into radio. You started you in radio, didn't you. Yeah?

And then basically you got you back into radio. You started you in radio, didn't you. Yeah?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So he was actually at Flavor doing drive show. We've actually been friends since we were at high school, him being into me, been in west Auckland, Y tex So.

So he was actually at Flavor doing drive show. We've actually been friends since we were at high school, him being into me, been in west Auckland, Y tex So.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I think we've just had such a beautiful pathway together anything, And I owe a lot to just him being such an amazing friend, and you know that lifelong friend who's I've learned a lot from as well.

No, I think we've just had such a beautiful pathway together anything, And I owe a lot to just him being such an amazing friend, and you know that lifelong friend who's I've learned a lot from as well.

Funnily enough, Hey, there were so.

Funnily enough, Hey, there were so.

Many things I wanted to talk to you about because things like being on Dancing on the Stars of only four months after you've had a C section. Yeah, you're wonderful.

Many things I wanted to talk to you about because things like being on Dancing on the Stars of only four months after you've had a C section. Yeah, you're wonderful.

Don't ever do that again. My cheeseer just slid off my crackaches.

Don't ever do that again. My cheeseer just slid off my crackaches.

And doing try that was Triathlon's celebrity ditsid Island.

And doing try that was Triathlon's celebrity ditsid Island.

Great stories to tell my grand.

Great stories to tell my grand.

Excuse me, Sam producer? Can we have kayle one about another? Five times? Against all these stories that we like to talk about. Hey, we've got to go, but you've picked another song for us. What have you got here? That's a song you pick.

Excuse me, Sam producer? Can we have kayle one about another? Five times? Against all these stories that we like to talk about. Hey, we've got to go, but you've picked another song for us. What have you got here? That's a song you pick.

This is a song that I actually walked down the aisle too to my husband Lamma, and this is the moment that I was like, we're actually doing this. This is the beginning of the unity of our family and the unity that we have as a culture, both Maldi's One, our families and just us as a family. It was really about celebrating what we've been through, how far we'd come, and really just declaring our love for each other in front of all of our family and friends. It was beautiful, such an amazing wedding, a great weekend. We didn't stop until Monday.

This is a song that I actually walked down the aisle too to my husband Lamma, and this is the moment that I was like, we're actually doing this. This is the beginning of the unity of our family and the unity that we have as a culture, both Maldi's One, our families and just us as a family. It was really about celebrating what we've been through, how far we'd come, and really just declaring our love for each other in front of all of our family and friends. It was beautiful, such an amazing wedding, a great weekend. We didn't stop until Monday.

I think, well, it's.

I think, well, it's.

Been great talking with you. What is the song that we're actually going to be listening.

Been great talking with you. What is the song that we're actually going to be listening.

To, Tory Kelly ed sheeron, I was Made for Love?

To, Tory Kelly ed sheeron, I was Made for Love?

Okay, And so it sounds like, even with all these experiences in the cluth, that you're still a romantic really.

Okay, And so it sounds like, even with all these experiences in the cluth, that you're still a romantic really.

Yeah, I'm still a big softy. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm still a big softy. Yeah.

That's lovely and long may that continue and all the best for your renewed career on Flavor. I mean you, I mean I don't need to wish you too much luck after you've done about fourteen fifteen years of radio. I think that you're an old hand at that, but wishing you all the best.

That's lovely and long may that continue and all the best for your renewed career on Flavor. I mean you, I mean I don't need to wish you too much luck after you've done about fourteen fifteen years of radio. I think that you're an old hand at that, but wishing you all the best.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This has been real life. I've been talking with Kaylie McNabb about her career and life and the faith and all sorts of things, and I'm looking forward to being back with you again next Sunday night with another guest.

This has been real life. I've been talking with Kaylie McNabb about her career and life and the faith and all sorts of things, and I'm looking forward to being back with you again next Sunday night with another guest.

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