Paul Young on Grieving Well, Trusting Slowly, and the Photo Album We Keep

Paul Young wrote The Shack as a Christmas gift for his six kids. He photocopied 15 copies at Office Depot. It went on to sell 25+ million. But the story behind the story is harder than the fairy tale suggests: a missionary kid raised by an abusive father, sexual abuse starting at age five, and a th…

Michael W. Smith: The Missed Flight, the Uber Driver, and the Sermon

40 years into his career, Michael W. Smith says he still hasn't arrived — and that's the point. Ben sits down with the legendary singer, songwriter, and now executive producer of *Daniel and the Fiery Furnace* (in theaters September 18) for an honest conversation about faith, family, and staying g…

One Foot in the Quicksand: Granger Smith on Carrying Other People's Grief

Granger Smith spent years thinking he was a Christian. Then he lost his son, and everything he believed got tested. In this conversation, Granger opens up about walking away from a country music career at the height of it, becoming a lay pastor in Central Texas, and what he now calls the "toxic be…

Why Montell and Kristin Jordan Traded Platinum Records for Prayer and Picture Books

What if the monster under the bed is more afraid of you than you are of him? That's the question Kristin and Montell Jordan asked their son one night — and it became the seed for their new children's book, *Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed*. In this episode, Ben sits down with the J…

Jay Pharoah: SNL, Addiction, and the Prodigal Son

Jay Pharoah — SNL alum, impressionist, and star of Fox's Quiz With Balls — sits down with Ben Higgins to talk about the moment he stopped running. In 2023, surrounded by everything he thought he wanted, Jay heard a voice tell him to leave the room. What happened next changed his life. In this con…

DOE: I Want to Be God's Daughter, Not His Employee

Grammy-winning artist DOE joins Ben Higgins to talk about what it means to stop performing your faith and start living it. In this conversation, DOE opens up about being raised at the intersection of music and faith, the weight of feeling like "an employee" of God rather than a daughter, and how s…

Faith, Marriage, And Second Callings with Cody Zeller and Leanna Crawford

Ben's college buddy Cody Zeller — and his wife, Grammy-nominated artist Leanna Crawford — sit down for a conversation about faith, identity, and what comes after the spotlight fades. Cody spent a decade in the NBA before retiring at 31. Leanna's career is just taking off — a #1 radio single, a sop…

Max McNown: I Climb One Step, Not the Whole Staircase

Max McNown learned guitar in 2022. Three years later, he's selling out venues and releasing his next album. In this conversation, Max sits down with Ben Higgins to talk about the story behind his rise — and why he doesn't credit it to ambition. We get into: - The guitar his dad handed him as he d…

Love Me Anyway — Writing the Song I Was Afraid to Play My Mom, with Alana Springsteen

Alana Springsteen grew up in a house where prayer was the answer to everything—including an eating disorder no one talked about out loud. In this conversation, the country artist opens up about her new album *I Hope This Helps* and the years of quiet work behind it: the breakup that broke her trus…

Young Washington: The Origin Story of the Original American, with Diederik Hoogstraten

What happens when a kid from the Netherlands grows up to write the origin story of America's first president? In this episode, screenwriter Diederik Hoogstraten joins Ben to talk about Young Washington — the Wonder Project film releasing July 3rd to mark America's 250th — and why an immigrant migh…