What if the monster under the bed is more afraid of you than you are of him?

That's the question Kristin and Montell Jordan asked their son one night — and it became the seed for their new children's book, *Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed*.

In this episode, Ben sits down with the Jordans to talk about:
• Why fear left unattended in childhood often becomes trauma in adulthood
• How 32 years of marriage, ministry, and music shaped their approach to raising brave kids
• Montell's journey as a two-time prostate cancer survivor — and what early detection made possible
• Kristin's role as caregiver, and how vulnerability protects intimacy
• Why humility is the doorway to inviting God into your hardest seasons
• The difference between spending time with your kids and investing in them

September is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. If you're a man over 40 — or you love one — this conversation matters.

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Timestamps
00:57 Meet Montell and Kristin Jordan
01:33 The story behind Shiloh
04:57 Flipping fear into empathy
09:14 Why fear was the first lesson
13:02 Montell's cancer journey
15:46 Doing hard things together
17:34 Inviting God into the scariest moments
21:49 Faith woven into a good story
28:08 From heathen to marriage ministry
34:27 Investing time with the next generation
36:50 Prostate cancer: early detection saves lives
42:29 Final cries to God