40 years into his career, Michael W. Smith says he still hasn't arrived — and that's the point.

Ben sits down with the legendary singer, songwriter, and now executive producer of *Daniel and the Fiery Furnace* (in theaters September 18) for an honest conversation about faith, family, and staying grounded in an industry built on adoration.

In this episode:
- The story behind *Worship* (2001) and why it became a healing album for America
- Crying through an entire concert in Bahrain — and what shifted
- Working alongside his son Tyler, who composed the score for *Daniel*
- Why he thinks God only reveals certain things to "deep people"
- The rules he and his wife Deb set 40+ years ago to protect their marriage
- A missed flight, an Uber driver, and why the interruptions matter
- New music, a guitar solo from Dan Huff, and what's coming in 2026

Michael's mentors included Billy Graham and his own father. Now, at 68, he sees his role as fathering the next generation of artists.

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Timestamps
00:32 40 years of God moments
02:40 Feeling the atmosphere shift
04:22 Crying through Bahrain concert
07:56 How Daniel movie came about
10:06 Watching his son Tyler compose
14:09 Why this Bible story hits different
17:41 We've got it too easy
24:22 Staying stirred and hungry for God
26:27 Missed flight, divine Uber ride
30:15 Surviving 45 years of marriage
33:28 Fathering the next generation
35:20 New music and a guitar solo
39:18 Teach me how to abide