This week is about the journey to healing, not the moment you lose someone, but everything it actually takes to rebuild after.

Our guest is Zak Williams, mental health advocate, founder of the wellness brand Pym, and the son of Robin Williams. He's been in therapy since he was a small child, and that lifelong relationship with it is part of what's made him such a vocal advocate for men actually getting help.

He talks about what actually helped him heal in the years after his father's death, and makes the case that recovery isn't one big breakthrough so much as a set of small, practical shifts - how you think, how you rest, how you show up for other people. It's less about getting over loss and more about building a life that can hold it.

He also opens up about the kind of man his father was off-screen, the kindness and generosity that defined him, and by the end, we talk him into blind-ranking his dad's ten most iconic movies, from Good Morning, Vietnam to Mrs. Doubtfire.

If you've ever lost someone and felt like you were supposed to have moved on by now, this one is for you.

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And as a reminder, we are not therapists, and while this may feel like therapy, it's not. So if you're struggling, please reach out to a mental health professional who can help.

• 00:00:00 – Intro
• 00:06:44 – Why Men Misunderstand Therapy
• 00:12:14 – Training Your Brain Like a Muscle
• 00:17:33 – Grief, Service, and Healing
• 00:23:10 – Ranking Robin Williams' Movies
• 00:28:02 – Building Pym After Loss