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Welcome back to part two of Thanksgiving. We're giving gratitude because Sharon has agreed to answer all of our questions and yours and stay with us for an extra long time because we're greedy and we love her.

Welcome back to part two of Thanksgiving. We're giving gratitude because Sharon has agreed to answer all of our questions and yours and stay with us for an extra long time because we're greedy and we love her.

We got to talk about Millie and Lisa Goldstein. I had a realization this might have happened in the episode actually with Antoine and Lee, because remember I was stumping pretty hard for Mouth and Miss Lauren. Yeah, yeah, what I had. What I've come to realize is that what I was really rooting for was just more Miss Lauren. What I didn't realize is the only way we got her was through a guy. So I was rooting for this relationship when really all I was rooting for was more Alison Mount Because as soon as Lisa showed up and Mouth and Milly are doing their thing. I was one hundred percent on board for the relationship. So what I realized was, I don't really care. I just want Lisa and Alison around because they're both so good.

We got to talk about Millie and Lisa Goldstein. I had a realization this might have happened in the episode actually with Antoine and Lee, because remember I was stumping pretty hard for Mouth and Miss Lauren. Yeah, yeah, what I had. What I've come to realize is that what I was really rooting for was just more Miss Lauren. What I didn't realize is the only way we got her was through a guy. So I was rooting for this relationship when really all I was rooting for was more Alison Mount Because as soon as Lisa showed up and Mouth and Milly are doing their thing. I was one hundred percent on board for the relationship. So what I realized was, I don't really care. I just want Lisa and Alison around because they're both so good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Lisa was great in this episode.

Lisa was great in this episode.

Her little gobble gobble that she does when when Skills walks out and goes, you're not a turkey, and she kind of just smiles like the way Lisa does. It's like she has to be around more. She's so and the two of them are just so cute and easy to roof for. They were so fun to watch man.

Her little gobble gobble that she does when when Skills walks out and goes, you're not a turkey, and she kind of just smiles like the way Lisa does. It's like she has to be around more. She's so and the two of them are just so cute and easy to roof for. They were so fun to watch man.

Yeah, their chemistry is so natural, and they they have that sort of intimacy where they can really quickly move between teasing each other, laughing together, seeming attracted to each other.

Yeah, their chemistry is so natural, and they they have that sort of intimacy where they can really quickly move between teasing each other, laughing together, seeming attracted to each other.

It's like it's.

It's like it's.

A groundedness that to your point, I knew I missed, I knew I hated when they had conflict, and when you see it come back as if you were, you just.

A groundedness that to your point, I knew I missed, I knew I hated when they had conflict, and when you see it come back as if you were, you just.

Go, oh, that's what I wanted, Let me have more.

Go, oh, that's what I wanted, Let me have more.

And it feels so nice to root for something like that.

And it feels so nice to root for something like that.

That whole the three of them in the apartment with the turkey showing up. It's just so I did not remember that at all. It really surprised me.

That whole the three of them in the apartment with the turkey showing up. It's just so I did not remember that at all. It really surprised me.

That is so funded.

That is so funded.

I didn't remember how the episode panned out. So when it's start, I remembered you directed it, and I didn't recall house. When everyone was in their own places, I thought, oh, that's so odd. I kind of felt like this ended up being like a big group thing. And then of course as each one gets derailed on the way, I was like, oh, okay, that's that's how that's how we all.

I didn't remember how the episode panned out. So when it's start, I remembered you directed it, and I didn't recall house. When everyone was in their own places, I thought, oh, that's so odd. I kind of felt like this ended up being like a big group thing. And then of course as each one gets derailed on the way, I was like, oh, okay, that's that's how that's how we all.

Yeah, that's how it happened.

Yeah, that's how it happened.

Just seeing that turkey, that turkey's head.

Just seeing that turkey, that turkey's head.

Just oh gosh, it was so good. I did not Tim McKinney probably was the one who figured out how to get us the turkey too, I'm sure. But there's a line I think it's Millie. Somebody says how's my bird? And she says, just how I like it dead and cooked? Yep, was that her line. I can't remember who said it. It was so funny. Yes, she really was great in this episode and had a lot to do too. You know, it's interesting in episodes where there's so many cast members and there's so much going on to be able to keep track of your particular thread and keep it consistent. Lisa had a tricky job because she's kind of playing a lot of different angles. Like she's got to be she's friendly with Alex, and she's trying to figure out where she's at with Brooke and trying to she doesn't want to be mean to Mia, who she doesn't really know, but Alex clearly doesn't like her. But also like she's not a fan of her friend being a jerk. Yeah, and she's trying to be girlfriend and helpful, and it's there was a lot for her to do that.

Just oh gosh, it was so good. I did not Tim McKinney probably was the one who figured out how to get us the turkey too, I'm sure. But there's a line I think it's Millie. Somebody says how's my bird? And she says, just how I like it dead and cooked? Yep, was that her line. I can't remember who said it. It was so funny. Yes, she really was great in this episode and had a lot to do too. You know, it's interesting in episodes where there's so many cast members and there's so much going on to be able to keep track of your particular thread and keep it consistent. Lisa had a tricky job because she's kind of playing a lot of different angles. Like she's got to be she's friendly with Alex, and she's trying to figure out where she's at with Brooke and trying to she doesn't want to be mean to Mia, who she doesn't really know, but Alex clearly doesn't like her. But also like she's not a fan of her friend being a jerk. Yeah, and she's trying to be girlfriend and helpful, and it's there was a lot for her to do that.

If you pulled her out of.

If you pulled her out of.

The scenes, I think things would have frayed a bit. I think things would have kind of fallen apart a bit. Like she was really a stable source that probably got underrated. We didn't really notice how important she was to this to have.

The scenes, I think things would have frayed a bit. I think things would have kind of fallen apart a bit. Like she was really a stable source that probably got underrated. We didn't really notice how important she was to this to have.

Her have that capability to say when Alex is like, she looks like a turkey, and she looks at Mia who looks gorgeous, and is like, she really she really doesn't like I'm sorry, I can't agree. She didn't judge her, and she didn't make a big deal of it. She played it so perfectly that she enhanced the humor, and when you see her in that set of discomfort or that moment of discomfort, and then you see her, you know, come up to me wondering.

Her have that capability to say when Alex is like, she looks like a turkey, and she looks at Mia who looks gorgeous, and is like, she really she really doesn't like I'm sorry, I can't agree. She didn't judge her, and she didn't make a big deal of it. She played it so perfectly that she enhanced the humor, and when you see her in that set of discomfort or that moment of discomfort, and then you see her, you know, come up to me wondering.

Are we okay? And I'm like, yeah, we're fine. I don't want to kill you. I want to kill my mom.

Are we okay? And I'm like, yeah, we're fine. I don't want to kill you. I want to kill my mom.

She gives the device for Brooke to essentially jinx herself, which is another one of those moments where the audience knows the secret and the character doesn't. That feels so fun to watch because you you're like, ooh, doom is impending, and then you realize it's because of Sylvia, who, when I'm venting, goes huh and walks away like.

She gives the device for Brooke to essentially jinx herself, which is another one of those moments where the audience knows the secret and the character doesn't. That feels so fun to watch because you you're like, ooh, doom is impending, and then you realize it's because of Sylvia, who, when I'm venting, goes huh and walks away like.

Uh oh, yeah, but we don't remember how upset Brook is. With Victoria without Milly is just another key device.

Uh oh, yeah, but we don't remember how upset Brook is. With Victoria without Milly is just another key device.

And that's what I'm saying.

And that's what I'm saying.

She gives us the ability to do the things and to set up the drama, and in every scene she plays it perfectly.

She gives us the ability to do the things and to set up the drama, and in every scene she plays it perfectly.

It's like she.

It's like she.

Saw the shape of the roller coaster and was in the right spot every time.

Saw the shape of the roller coaster and was in the right spot every time.

And arguably the best button on any of the scenes. Well, there's a lot of good buttons, but still one of my favorites was when Victoria shows up. There's a very quick moment that happens where it's like a two shot of Brooke and Milly and Brooke clocks Victoria and everyone stays looking in the same direction, but Brook's hand just reaches over to the cutting board and grabs the knife, and Millie doesn't look down. She also just reaches over and grabs her hand. Yeah. Perfect, there's like no exta for the joke. You see it real quick, and then we're out, and it's such a good way to end the scene.

And arguably the best button on any of the scenes. Well, there's a lot of good buttons, but still one of my favorites was when Victoria shows up. There's a very quick moment that happens where it's like a two shot of Brooke and Milly and Brooke clocks Victoria and everyone stays looking in the same direction, but Brook's hand just reaches over to the cutting board and grabs the knife, and Millie doesn't look down. She also just reaches over and grabs her hand. Yeah. Perfect, there's like no exta for the joke. You see it real quick, and then we're out, and it's such a good way to end the scene.

Yeah yeah, well blink and you missed it. But it was so so good and that was you, guys. That's you just being free and feeling comfortable with each other and knowing each other. And she know, she knows you so well. So I love that she she just knew to reach forard at the same time.

Yeah yeah, well blink and you missed it. But it was so so good and that was you, guys. That's you just being free and feeling comfortable with each other and knowing each other. And she know, she knows you so well. So I love that she she just knew to reach forard at the same time.

Well, and that we got to have those buttons again. Loving props. The props are the communication, because you think the joke is Brooke grabbing Millie's wine glass and starting to drink, and then it's it's glass knife knife and it's a perfect triplet, and you again, you just think you know what's funny, and then it gets funnier and it's such a nice thing when you're working with people that you have such good chemistry with because you just get to keep going.

Well, and that we got to have those buttons again. Loving props. The props are the communication, because you think the joke is Brooke grabbing Millie's wine glass and starting to drink, and then it's it's glass knife knife and it's a perfect triplet, and you again, you just think you know what's funny, and then it gets funnier and it's such a nice thing when you're working with people that you have such good chemistry with because you just get to keep going.

It's it's improfits.

It's it's improfits.

Yes, and yeah, absolutely, I love it.

Yes, and yeah, absolutely, I love it.

How the girls feel about the fight.

How the girls feel about the fight.

Oh gosh, right, I remember with the stunt with the stunt doubles, the two girls fight. Oh when she gets clotheslined, Oh god, I mean, I'm so like, I'm over watching women fight each other over a boy. Like objectively, that's just it's super irritating to watch.

Oh gosh, right, I remember with the stunt with the stunt doubles, the two girls fight. Oh when she gets clotheslined, Oh god, I mean, I'm so like, I'm over watching women fight each other over a boy. Like objectively, that's just it's super irritating to watch.

But times have changed.

But times have changed.

Outside of that, I enjoyed how much they committed to the material and I like that Chase was like I want to be alone. It's like, yeah, okay, yeah, maybe maybe we don't need to be wasting our time fighting over a guy that's not actually interested in us.

Outside of that, I enjoyed how much they committed to the material and I like that Chase was like I want to be alone. It's like, yeah, okay, yeah, maybe maybe we don't need to be wasting our time fighting over a guy that's not actually interested in us.

You know what actually helped me with that because of course we're like, oh okay, I was going to make the two Hawk girls fight over the guy.

You know what actually helped me with that because of course we're like, oh okay, I was going to make the two Hawk girls fight over the guy.

Yeah, I actually thought.

Yeah, I actually thought.

What saved us.

What saved us.

And again, kudos to Austin being perfect in the episode, much like Lisa is.

And again, kudos to Austin being perfect in the episode, much like Lisa is.

Yeah, when it cuts to Julian and.

Yeah, when it cuts to Julian and.

He is laughing in faces that he's like, you're fighting over Chase.

He is laughing in faces that he's like, you're fighting over Chase.

And he just laughs at them.

And he just laughs at them.

It's such good diffusion for how silly it is, and it feels like a little wink to the rest of us. And I think he does so much of the same kind of service for those storylines as Lisa's doing with so many of the others.

It's such good diffusion for how silly it is, and it feels like a little wink to the rest of us. And I think he does so much of the same kind of service for those storylines as Lisa's doing with so many of the others.

Yeah, because he could have delivered that like more interested, like he was playing into it, and the fact that he didn't, the fact that he just was like, this is absurd, and I'm going to play it absurd. Yes, Austin come through.

Yeah, because he could have delivered that like more interested, like he was playing into it, and the fact that he didn't, the fact that he just was like, this is absurd, and I'm going to play it absurd. Yes, Austin come through.

Yeah, And in a way, him opening it up like that is part of I think what sets the tone for them to sit there and be like, oh, what are we doing? I didn't see this coming at all, and they play it so almost flat that it makes it funnier.

Yeah, And in a way, him opening it up like that is part of I think what sets the tone for them to sit there and be like, oh, what are we doing? I didn't see this coming at all, and they play it so almost flat that it makes it funnier.

And speaking of Austin, the whole bit about him being chosen last for football, so it just it just doesn't work in a visual medium. He's obviously a physical specimen and people are choosing like people half his size who are unathletic.

And speaking of Austin, the whole bit about him being chosen last for football, so it just it just doesn't work in a visual medium. He's obviously a physical specimen and people are choosing like people half his size who are unathletic.

Yeah, Nathan looking to you and being like, hey, Julian's the last choice.

Yeah, Nathan looking to you and being like, hey, Julian's the last choice.

But I was like this this one, We've like, it's it's it's no, it doesn't work, But there was a line. I was so curious if if any of you bumped on it, because I heard it and was like, mmm, when Alex sees me, excuse me, sees Milly and I'm like, hey, bitch, hey bitch, and Milly goes tell me some hollywoody stories so I can live vicariously through you. And Alex's response is you mean boring stories? Work, diet, work, diet, think about Chase, think about Chase some more. And I was like, there it is. That's what women do. They diet and they think about men. Like it was this stupid, like oversimplification. Anyways, I just saw it was I don't mean like, you know so box by it. I heard that line, was like, mmmm, you know what, Rob.

But I was like this this one, We've like, it's it's it's no, it doesn't work, But there was a line. I was so curious if if any of you bumped on it, because I heard it and was like, mmm, when Alex sees me, excuse me, sees Milly and I'm like, hey, bitch, hey bitch, and Milly goes tell me some hollywoody stories so I can live vicariously through you. And Alex's response is you mean boring stories? Work, diet, work, diet, think about Chase, think about Chase some more. And I was like, there it is. That's what women do. They diet and they think about men. Like it was this stupid, like oversimplification. Anyways, I just saw it was I don't mean like, you know so box by it. I heard that line, was like, mmmm, you know what, Rob.

I would like to hand you one of those little blue ribbon buttons right through the computer.

I would like to hand you one of those little blue ribbon buttons right through the computer.

You are an excellent man.

You are an excellent man.

I agree that. Thank you for noticing that.

I agree that. Thank you for noticing that.

But yeah, but it's just it was right though. I'm sure you all heard that and we're like, okay, yeah, and I.

But yeah, but it's just it was right though. I'm sure you all heard that and we're like, okay, yeah, and I.

Think it was a different time. I just feel the world has changed, and you all helped make it change. You did help make our kids. Sharing we tell stories and the way we think about not what we represent, so yeah.

Think it was a different time. I just feel the world has changed, and you all helped make it change. You did help make our kids. Sharing we tell stories and the way we think about not what we represent, so yeah.

Well, just to just to build out a little more human detail. And I think I think it's why thankfully we have some of those moments in this episode, because the episode is so full and it is so colorful for all of the characters, and and there is so much that's going on. And even even that moment, you know, Quinn comes home surprises you. It's this reunion for our couple. You're so happy to see them. The light is so insanely beautiful. When you have that two shot of the two of you kissing, I was like, what postcard is this? Like it's so gorgeous, and then there's color on She goes in to say, I really just want to go home. You know, she's jet lagged, she's apparently just flown all the way back from Africa, and Haley already has the food packed up, and it's like, here you go. You're the best worst sister ever. And it's just that's the kind of detail you want in everybody's scenes. But I'm thankful that if we got the basic thing in that moment with you know, Alex and Millie, at least we got so much detail and so many other moments to counter it.

Well, just to just to build out a little more human detail. And I think I think it's why thankfully we have some of those moments in this episode, because the episode is so full and it is so colorful for all of the characters, and and there is so much that's going on. And even even that moment, you know, Quinn comes home surprises you. It's this reunion for our couple. You're so happy to see them. The light is so insanely beautiful. When you have that two shot of the two of you kissing, I was like, what postcard is this? Like it's so gorgeous, and then there's color on She goes in to say, I really just want to go home. You know, she's jet lagged, she's apparently just flown all the way back from Africa, and Haley already has the food packed up, and it's like, here you go. You're the best worst sister ever. And it's just that's the kind of detail you want in everybody's scenes. But I'm thankful that if we got the basic thing in that moment with you know, Alex and Millie, at least we got so much detail and so many other moments to counter it.

Yeah, And the only reason that I think I can't imagine any of us saying that line and or seeing that line in the script and being like, uh, yeah, I'll say that. But I think that because Alex's character is always trying to put on airs of some kind, like there's always some element of like performative, I want this person to think this about me, that I could kind of buy that she was saying that to Milly for some reason, like insecurity reason, but it's still Yeah.

Yeah, And the only reason that I think I can't imagine any of us saying that line and or seeing that line in the script and being like, uh, yeah, I'll say that. But I think that because Alex's character is always trying to put on airs of some kind, like there's always some element of like performative, I want this person to think this about me, that I could kind of buy that she was saying that to Milly for some reason, like insecurity reason, but it's still Yeah.

I also think to Sharon's point about how times have changed and all the work everybody's had to slog through behind the scenes, you have to take into consideration that Jana was still recurring. Yeah, she wasn't a series regular. When your job is less secure, you can't. It was hard enough for us to fight, and they couldn't get rid of us if they tried to. If you're not guaranteed to come back next week, you really do have to pick your battles. And I think as a testament to her, you know, and and really to so many people, people committed to all of it in our show.

I also think to Sharon's point about how times have changed and all the work everybody's had to slog through behind the scenes, you have to take into consideration that Jana was still recurring. Yeah, she wasn't a series regular. When your job is less secure, you can't. It was hard enough for us to fight, and they couldn't get rid of us if they tried to. If you're not guaranteed to come back next week, you really do have to pick your battles. And I think as a testament to her, you know, and and really to so many people, people committed to all of it in our show.

And they made they made some things that shouldn't.

And they made they made some things that shouldn't.

Have worked work really well, and they made some material that was you know, special, exceptional, and I think that's like just a testament to our whole ragtag gang, you know.

Have worked work really well, and they made some material that was you know, special, exceptional, and I think that's like just a testament to our whole ragtag gang, you know.

Yeah, it was all lightning in a bottle.

Yeah, it was all lightning in a bottle.

Janna and Julian are like teflon. Like there was so much sticky, crummy stuff thrown at them that just didn't stick.

Janna and Julian are like teflon. Like there was so much sticky, crummy stuff thrown at them that just didn't stick.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're so good and you're right, it's because they're they're they're good at what they do, and they commit. They weren't they weren't worried about looking a certain way. They just went for the material and as a result, like these end up being characters you really like.

Yeah, they're so good and you're right, it's because they're they're they're good at what they do, and they commit. They weren't they weren't worried about looking a certain way. They just went for the material and as a result, like these end up being characters you really like.

Yeah, it's a testament to how smart they both are too.

Yeah, it's a testament to how smart they both are too.

Yeah did anyone this is so random? But was anyone else very surprised to find out you need a college degree to be a sports agent?

Yeah did anyone this is so random? But was anyone else very surprised to find out you need a college degree to be a sports agent?

Is that true?

Is that true?

I googled it and it is true. Wow, Because as soon as that happened, I paused the show and I was like, oops, I think we made a mistake here. Nope, not only do you need to have a bachelor's degree, they recommend you have some law school training as well, if not a full on JD.

I googled it and it is true. Wow, Because as soon as that happened, I paused the show and I was like, oops, I think we made a mistake here. Nope, not only do you need to have a bachelor's degree, they recommend you have some law school training as well, if not a full on JD.

Wow, Sharon, you know about this, Yes, and it's because of the antitrust laws because you're negotiating contracts. If you're an agent, you are licensed to negotiate a contracts. So that means you must be licensed within a type of framework that may include law, that certainly would include a bachelor's.

Wow, Sharon, you know about this, Yes, and it's because of the antitrust laws because you're negotiating contracts. If you're an agent, you are licensed to negotiate a contracts. So that means you must be licensed within a type of framework that may include law, that certainly would include a bachelor's.

Or why do you know about that?

Or why do you know about that?

Because I have friends who are sports agents. Oh and if you think about it, a lot of people that go into any kind of agent position come they started back in the eighties, seventies or eighties, coming from law schools. A lot, it's true, wanted to go into the entertainment business.

Because I have friends who are sports agents. Oh and if you think about it, a lot of people that go into any kind of agent position come they started back in the eighties, seventies or eighties, coming from law schools. A lot, it's true, wanted to go into the entertainment business.

Because I have to negotiate still, even though the lawyers are doing some negotiating, I mean they do the final negotiations, but the agents have to jump in early for sure.

Because I have to negotiate still, even though the lawyers are doing some negotiating, I mean they do the final negotiations, but the agents have to jump in early for sure.

Ye.

Ye.

That paper, you know, that paper makes you to your clients more credible, more more valuable. So it's a it's it's an enticement as much as it is a requirement.

That paper, you know, that paper makes you to your clients more credible, more more valuable. So it's a it's it's an enticement as much as it is a requirement.

Sharon, you had one of my favorite lines of the episode. It's when Victoria gets to the house and of course Brook is like, get her out of here, and you know, Sylvia is just like unrelentingly welcoming, and you go. I think it's when like Brook is kind of trying to hoard the wine or something and Sylvia grabs a bottle, and your lying is, don't be silly. A lady gets out of the big house. She deserves a nice big glass of reasling. And like that you would even have a quote for that scenario is so funny to me, and it just kills out so naturally, like a common thing, you know.

Sharon, you had one of my favorite lines of the episode. It's when Victoria gets to the house and of course Brook is like, get her out of here, and you know, Sylvia is just like unrelentingly welcoming, and you go. I think it's when like Brook is kind of trying to hoard the wine or something and Sylvia grabs a bottle, and your lying is, don't be silly. A lady gets out of the big house. She deserves a nice big glass of reasling. And like that you would even have a quote for that scenario is so funny to me, and it just kills out so naturally, like a common thing, you know.

Well, and then you see Daphne kind of do this. She looks at you and says, finally someone with manners, and I'm like, oh no, they're best friends.

Well, and then you see Daphne kind of do this. She looks at you and says, finally someone with manners, and I'm like, oh no, they're best friends.

Yeah, the ally ship that happened there immediately I'm smart because they could have easily written them as you know, editors. And I like that they that Nikki thought, no, let's make these two grown ass women want to be together.

Yeah, the ally ship that happened there immediately I'm smart because they could have easily written them as you know, editors. And I like that they that Nikki thought, no, let's make these two grown ass women want to be together.

It's so much more interesting.

It's so much more interesting.

Well, and I love that. Then you wind up outside on the Adirondacks. I love that when we go inside and Victoria is like, I'm not sitting at the kids table. You're like, no, no, And You've commandeered the two biggest, most beautiful chairs in the living room. There's this thing of these two on their little thrones and it really plays well.

Well, and I love that. Then you wind up outside on the Adirondacks. I love that when we go inside and Victoria is like, I'm not sitting at the kids table. You're like, no, no, And You've commandeered the two biggest, most beautiful chairs in the living room. There's this thing of these two on their little thrones and it really plays well.

Did you just say you and Daphney worked together before? You just knew each other before.

Did you just say you and Daphney worked together before? You just knew each other before.

We both we were in class together, we studied, we lost the famed acting tea back in the the last century in the nineties, and then we did a miniseries together, and we were in in Toronto for a while and our love of the environment has brought us together.

We both we were in class together, we studied, we lost the famed acting tea back in the the last century in the nineties, and then we did a miniseries together, and we were in in Toronto for a while and our love of the environment has brought us together.

Yeah, you've been with Heal de Bay for so long. Wait, what was the name of a miniseriries, Sharon.

Yeah, you've been with Heal de Bay for so long. Wait, what was the name of a miniseriries, Sharon.

Guilt, Degree of Guilt. I played a murderer and she was an extra.

Guilt, Degree of Guilt. I played a murderer and she was an extra.

Gosh, she's the attorney.

Gosh, she's the attorney.

She was the attorney, she was the prosecutor.

She was the attorney, she was the prosecutor.

I think I need to see this.

I think I need to see this.

They they they they examined me on the witness stand.

They they they they examined me on the witness stand.

Oh yes, I'm gonna have my own glass of reason and watch this. I feel like every time I see you on camera, I just feel the need to go back and watch more of your work because you're so good.

Oh yes, I'm gonna have my own glass of reason and watch this. I feel like every time I see you on camera, I just feel the need to go back and watch more of your work because you're so good.

To that end, Can I ask a wildly off topic question, will you all allow it? Okay, Sharon, I did not realize that you showed your bum on NYPD Blue. I think joyr Soph mentioned this in a previous episode. And I was curious because was that the first time that had happened on like proper broadcast television on television.

To that end, Can I ask a wildly off topic question, will you all allow it? Okay, Sharon, I did not realize that you showed your bum on NYPD Blue. I think joyr Soph mentioned this in a previous episode. And I was curious because was that the first time that had happened on like proper broadcast television on television.

Yes, this is interesting. Just last night I was with my dear friend who was a great acting coach you all may know, Lee Kilton Smith, and we known each other forever and waited tables together. And she has been with me, you know, by my side for forty years, so she remembers things that I don't. She said that less it shit and it was the first one Bear Buttock show and I said, Noah, wasn't. It was David Caruso and Amy Brennaman that were. They did the first love scene nude on in My PD Blue, which was nude scene on network television. It was a ten PM slot. There was a lot of controversy around it. A religious organization led by guy named Reverend Wildman wanted to They were going to sue ABC. ABC really had to stand up to the censorship. People were going to pull their ads, advertisers. But all it did is create a controversy that made more people interested in watching it and too much higher ratings on the local eleven PM news show. So all of the affiliates were delighted. Oh yes, But what Lee reminded me of was that was a silhouette. They were silhouetted. Mine was a full, a straight on shot. And I was in the shower with Dennis Franz and frankly you saw his first his buttocks first. Team player, Yeah, team player, team player. And what I can say is, while it was something I never expected, what happened I remember seeing and my PD blue advertised, not advertised, but we all as actors learned about it through what we're called breakdowns. And that was a big a sheet of paper that had all of the details about the characters and the show, and that was typed in it but written in sharpie was nudity required. And when I saw that, I went, well, that's not me. I won't be doing that.

Yes, this is interesting. Just last night I was with my dear friend who was a great acting coach you all may know, Lee Kilton Smith, and we known each other forever and waited tables together. And she has been with me, you know, by my side for forty years, so she remembers things that I don't. She said that less it shit and it was the first one Bear Buttock show and I said, Noah, wasn't. It was David Caruso and Amy Brennaman that were. They did the first love scene nude on in My PD Blue, which was nude scene on network television. It was a ten PM slot. There was a lot of controversy around it. A religious organization led by guy named Reverend Wildman wanted to They were going to sue ABC. ABC really had to stand up to the censorship. People were going to pull their ads, advertisers. But all it did is create a controversy that made more people interested in watching it and too much higher ratings on the local eleven PM news show. So all of the affiliates were delighted. Oh yes, But what Lee reminded me of was that was a silhouette. They were silhouetted. Mine was a full, a straight on shot. And I was in the shower with Dennis Franz and frankly you saw his first his buttocks first. Team player, Yeah, team player, team player. And what I can say is, while it was something I never expected, what happened I remember seeing and my PD blue advertised, not advertised, but we all as actors learned about it through what we're called breakdowns. And that was a big a sheet of paper that had all of the details about the characters and the show, and that was typed in it but written in sharpie was nudity required. And when I saw that, I went, well, that's not me. I won't be doing that.

Oh that's what I was going to ask you.

Oh that's what I was going to ask you.

And they didn't hire me for that. I played. I had a day player role that became a series regular because the chemistry with dennisis and it was an unexpected love story that they they created when they saw what was happening with the two of us. I mean it was it talked about lightning in a bottle that yeah, yeah, yeah, So my character was originally written for a man, but everything just unfolded because it was so authentic and time of with twenty two episodes, the season allowed for that anyway. Wow, And when this happened, it was we were the couple that was not about just hotness. We were about realness again to the gloves. So our love was awkward and real and tender and very well lit.

And they didn't hire me for that. I played. I had a day player role that became a series regular because the chemistry with dennisis and it was an unexpected love story that they they created when they saw what was happening with the two of us. I mean it was it talked about lightning in a bottle that yeah, yeah, yeah, So my character was originally written for a man, but everything just unfolded because it was so authentic and time of with twenty two episodes, the season allowed for that anyway. Wow, And when this happened, it was we were the couple that was not about just hotness. We were about realness again to the gloves. So our love was awkward and real and tender and very well lit.

Did they come to you with this, like, Hey, here's what we want to do. How do you feel about this? Was it just in the script?

Did they come to you with this, like, Hey, here's what we want to do. How do you feel about this? Was it just in the script?

Was it?

Was it?

Because because I remember seeing all of the media blow up about this, I remember like, and was I was. I don't know what age I was, but I wasn't watching in my PD blue. But I became aware of the show because of all of this hullabaloo around your beautiful rear end. And I'm just like curious how you felt about it all? And I mean, can we talk about it? I'm sorry.

Because because I remember seeing all of the media blow up about this, I remember like, and was I was. I don't know what age I was, but I wasn't watching in my PD blue. But I became aware of the show because of all of this hullabaloo around your beautiful rear end. And I'm just like curious how you felt about it all? And I mean, can we talk about it? I'm sorry.

Dennis has got much more attention because people are like, oh my god, I really it was funny. Our scene was tender and funny, and it ended with a joke rather than an attempt to be the dust sexual.

Dennis has got much more attention because people are like, oh my god, I really it was funny. Our scene was tender and funny, and it ended with a joke rather than an attempt to be the dust sexual.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And and the realness of it comforted me. Yeah, he did a series regular. I had to sign a writer that that nudity was required. Yeah, and I believe me, it was not comfortable. I'm glad. It's the only time that I've ever really had to do that. I've had love scenes since then, but yeah, never with that kind of exposure, so to speak. But now we have so many more things in place. Our union has worked to make sure that that their intimacy coordinators on set, that no monitors are allowed to be on set. People can't have you can't very restricted limited crew man.

And and the realness of it comforted me. Yeah, he did a series regular. I had to sign a writer that that nudity was required. Yeah, and I believe me, it was not comfortable. I'm glad. It's the only time that I've ever really had to do that. I've had love scenes since then, but yeah, never with that kind of exposure, so to speak. But now we have so many more things in place. Our union has worked to make sure that that their intimacy coordinators on set, that no monitors are allowed to be on set. People can't have you can't very restricted limited crew man.

Yeah, that wasn't even the case when we were shooting stuff. I mean, poor Tory DeVito getting in the shower with James and there were monitors like everywhere everywhere.

Yeah, that wasn't even the case when we were shooting stuff. I mean, poor Tory DeVito getting in the shower with James and there were monitors like everywhere everywhere.

And people's terrible shots. What we did that that me too movement. All of that was because of the experiences that all of us had had. We had to sign that after that show, harassment writers were required to be signed harassmenting harassment comes up forms, and it came in the formost taking screenshots of using those those new devices called cell phones that had got in the mid nineties. Uh, making sure that that footage did not get released outside intended.

And people's terrible shots. What we did that that me too movement. All of that was because of the experiences that all of us had had. We had to sign that after that show, harassment writers were required to be signed harassmenting harassment comes up forms, and it came in the formost taking screenshots of using those those new devices called cell phones that had got in the mid nineties. Uh, making sure that that footage did not get released outside intended.

I mean I think that's what a lot of people don't realize, is how far we've had to fight for protections that you would assume would just be decent, but people aren't. There are such dynamics of power and control.

I mean I think that's what a lot of people don't realize, is how far we've had to fight for protections that you would assume would just be decent, but people aren't. There are such dynamics of power and control.

And I mean, you know, even to have to.

And I mean, you know, even to have to.

Make it a violation for your boss to keep photos of you in your underwear in their office.

Make it a violation for your boss to keep photos of you in your underwear in their office.

Because they could do that taking.

Because they could do that taking.

Still images of an actress on a television show if she happened to be an underwear for a scene, and you would just think, well, who would do that? And plenty of people would do that, And so you know this idea that you have to say, No, you're not allowed to take a screenshot of someone in a shower.

Still images of an actress on a television show if she happened to be an underwear for a scene, and you would just think, well, who would do that? And plenty of people would do that, And so you know this idea that you have to say, No, you're not allowed to take a screenshot of someone in a shower.

No you are not allowed.

No you are not allowed.

To take and keep images from women's fittings.

To take and keep images from women's fittings.

No you are not allowed to.

No you are not allowed to.

Invite your friends to set on the day someone has to shoot a love scene. Like it seems is basic, but we had to fight these crazy upheld battles, you know, to do those things.

Invite your friends to set on the day someone has to shoot a love scene. Like it seems is basic, but we had to fight these crazy upheld battles, you know, to do those things.

I was, frankly there were crew members that made this me it in particular, but I wasn't alone. Their comments got back to us. Sometimes we overheard them, but their comments got back and we actually spoke to the Botchko company about it and their concern with lawsuits and their understanding that they needed to recognize how unprofessional it was. That's what motivated these writers these harassment, and I believe it was the women in that production company, Yeah, that were not going to look the other way.

I was, frankly there were crew members that made this me it in particular, but I wasn't alone. Their comments got back to us. Sometimes we overheard them, but their comments got back and we actually spoke to the Botchko company about it and their concern with lawsuits and their understanding that they needed to recognize how unprofessional it was. That's what motivated these writers these harassment, and I believe it was the women in that production company, Yeah, that were not going to look the other way.

Well, that's another reason why you're a trailblazer, Sharon. You've walked through so such a buried so many varied experiences in your career, and I've in all the times I've been on set with you, I've always been amazed at how you're able to set boundaries for yourself while also being totally free on camera and so and so comfortable in your ability to improvise and have ideas. And I never see you ever make anyone feel uncomfortable or feel like you're being bossy or I feel like it's it's uh, you know, you have this incredible I just watch you with wonder, like I want to learn how to do that. And I'm sure it's something that you've I'm assuming it's something you learned over time in your career, but being young and coming up in that environment and then having to learn how to transition through it. Do you have any like what are your what are the tricks?

Well, that's another reason why you're a trailblazer, Sharon. You've walked through so such a buried so many varied experiences in your career, and I've in all the times I've been on set with you, I've always been amazed at how you're able to set boundaries for yourself while also being totally free on camera and so and so comfortable in your ability to improvise and have ideas. And I never see you ever make anyone feel uncomfortable or feel like you're being bossy or I feel like it's it's uh, you know, you have this incredible I just watch you with wonder, like I want to learn how to do that. And I'm sure it's something that you've I'm assuming it's something you learned over time in your career, but being young and coming up in that environment and then having to learn how to transition through it. Do you have any like what are your what are the tricks?

Like?

Like?

What what do you have to say for young actors or for even for us like as we're as we continue to learn and grow in this industry as well, how do you manage all that well?

What what do you have to say for young actors or for even for us like as we're as we continue to learn and grow in this industry as well, how do you manage all that well?

I appreciate your appreciation of the a manner or quality or a tone, and I want to acknowledge that my theater training, I think is what has grounded me in a confidence and a freedom, but also a cultural understanding that we are all that this is team work. Film and television sets are different because we are a bit more what's the word I'm looking for? We are we are a little more sequestered. You know, we're not always watching everybody throughout the whole day. When you're working on a play or working on a Broadway musical, you're in the same room and when in how so they talk about the room where it happens on stage, that is a given. So you feel everybody all the time.

I appreciate your appreciation of the a manner or quality or a tone, and I want to acknowledge that my theater training, I think is what has grounded me in a confidence and a freedom, but also a cultural understanding that we are all that this is team work. Film and television sets are different because we are a bit more what's the word I'm looking for? We are we are a little more sequestered. You know, we're not always watching everybody throughout the whole day. When you're working on a play or working on a Broadway musical, you're in the same room and when in how so they talk about the room where it happens on stage, that is a given. So you feel everybody all the time.

Yeah, you're holding all that energy and.

Yeah, you're holding all that energy and.

You learn from what's gracious and what is not. On a film set, we are often sent away to our trailers and we don't get a chance to observe how everybody affects everybody else. And I think as people that are beginning in this business, to make sure that they invest their time in some stage production somewhere so they learn what it means to create together, to be part of that process and then to deliver for the run of the play. And I think it will set you up for an understanding of shared shared challenges, shared rewards, breathing the same air all the time, listening in a different.

You learn from what's gracious and what is not. On a film set, we are often sent away to our trailers and we don't get a chance to observe how everybody affects everybody else. And I think as people that are beginning in this business, to make sure that they invest their time in some stage production somewhere so they learn what it means to create together, to be part of that process and then to deliver for the run of the play. And I think it will set you up for an understanding of shared shared challenges, shared rewards, breathing the same air all the time, listening in a different.

Way, and creativity and for.

Way, and creativity and for.

Something, and that everybody that you're in front of is an audience, whether they're a crew member or somebody that's paid to sit in the house. We are. We're a big ecosystem and you can be asset or a liability.

Something, and that everybody that you're in front of is an audience, whether they're a crew member or somebody that's paid to sit in the house. We are. We're a big ecosystem and you can be asset or a liability.

Yeah, I will say Sharon did make me cry a few times during the movies we made together. But in her defense, in her defense, it was not only deserved but necessary good.

Yeah, I will say Sharon did make me cry a few times during the movies we made together. But in her defense, in her defense, it was not only deserved but necessary good.

It was written in the script and maybe it was us just sitting around listening to treat enjoy his fart app on his phone. So will you know so much? And thank you bother u seeing those movies for making sure that we all got to be together with a special person in our industry who made us cry with left and just.

It was written in the script and maybe it was us just sitting around listening to treat enjoy his fart app on his phone. So will you know so much? And thank you bother u seeing those movies for making sure that we all got to be together with a special person in our industry who made us cry with left and just.

To get to, like I said, to experience you because we cross paths for all of four hours on the set of this episode, and I immediately liked you. But it wasn't until we got to work together that I've got to fully appreciate, just like what Joy's saying, like you are a gift, Like you're such a great collaborative partner and a teammate, and you make the water warm and safe, which makes it easy for everyone just to jump in and play.

To get to, like I said, to experience you because we cross paths for all of four hours on the set of this episode, and I immediately liked you. But it wasn't until we got to work together that I've got to fully appreciate, just like what Joy's saying, like you are a gift, Like you're such a great collaborative partner and a teammate, and you make the water warm and safe, which makes it easy for everyone just to jump in and play.

While managing to really care about and defend your characters, which sometimes feels like you have to choose one or the other, and you somehow managed to never make it that way. It's really lovely.

While managing to really care about and defend your characters, which sometimes feels like you have to choose one or the other, and you somehow managed to never make it that way. It's really lovely.

But I think it's such.

But I think it's such.

A beautiful thing that you're saying. And the root of that care is if you care about everybody on your set, and you defend your people on your set, and you make sure that every crew member on your set feels as you know, important, as visitors might think the actors are supposed to be. You know, I think realizing that the circus doesn't work without every member of it is really important, and it's one of the things that I really value was so important on our set certainly, you know, I've I've worked on other sets where I've seen people be real shitty to crewe like you know, I've I've witnessed some things where I'm like, damn, that is just not how we're supposed to do things. And so I think I think the more of us that you know, check in on our department heads every day and make sure people have what they need and feel respected, and if they don't, we can stand up and say something because we might have a little more protection in certain areas than they do. Like that's also how things change, you know. Sometimes it requires a movement, and sometimes it requires like smaller movement that's local and just on your sound stage, but it can really be powerful to your credits.

A beautiful thing that you're saying. And the root of that care is if you care about everybody on your set, and you defend your people on your set, and you make sure that every crew member on your set feels as you know, important, as visitors might think the actors are supposed to be. You know, I think realizing that the circus doesn't work without every member of it is really important, and it's one of the things that I really value was so important on our set certainly, you know, I've I've worked on other sets where I've seen people be real shitty to crewe like you know, I've I've witnessed some things where I'm like, damn, that is just not how we're supposed to do things. And so I think I think the more of us that you know, check in on our department heads every day and make sure people have what they need and feel respected, and if they don't, we can stand up and say something because we might have a little more protection in certain areas than they do. Like that's also how things change, you know. Sometimes it requires a movement, and sometimes it requires like smaller movement that's local and just on your sound stage, but it can really be powerful to your credits.

So if you are the one first person I ever heard say that when you are asked by the producers to do a forced call, that you actually talk with the department heads before you agree, because as actors, if you're like you know, like one or two, or you're higher up, or you're in the majority of the next day, they'll be like, hey, can we force your call, which means can we bring you in in less time than is required. I've always just thought like, I'll be a team player and just say yes. And it was until Sopia said I actually asked the department heads. It's like, oh, I had never occurred to me. Yeah, that everyone else is also being asked, And so kudos to you for also, yeah, you know, for doing the same thing, because that sort of opened my eyes to like, oh, yeah, that's another way I can be, you know, a teammate to everyone else.

So if you are the one first person I ever heard say that when you are asked by the producers to do a forced call, that you actually talk with the department heads before you agree, because as actors, if you're like you know, like one or two, or you're higher up, or you're in the majority of the next day, they'll be like, hey, can we force your call, which means can we bring you in in less time than is required. I've always just thought like, I'll be a team player and just say yes. And it was until Sopia said I actually asked the department heads. It's like, oh, I had never occurred to me. Yeah, that everyone else is also being asked, And so kudos to you for also, yeah, you know, for doing the same thing, because that sort of opened my eyes to like, oh, yeah, that's another way I can be, you know, a teammate to everyone else.

That's really sweet. I appreciate that, Rob, you know. I think one of the things that I really cherish, Like I didn't grow up in like the industry, right, Like I don't come from an acting family, but my dad was a photographer for his career, and I think from the outside that seemed sort of fancy to some people, like, oh, your dad takes pictures for a.

That's really sweet. I appreciate that, Rob, you know. I think one of the things that I really cherish, Like I didn't grow up in like the industry, right, Like I don't come from an acting family, but my dad was a photographer for his career, and I think from the outside that seemed sort of fancy to some people, like, oh, your dad takes pictures for a.

Living, and like, yeah, it's cool, he's an artist.

Living, and like, yeah, it's cool, he's an artist.

But to be clear, on set, he's the help, Like he's the crew.

But to be clear, on set, he's the help, Like he's the crew.

You know.

You know.

I grew up working crew, and I know who comes into a studio and is nice to the crew, and who comes into a studio and isn't. And I'm really grateful for those lessons I learned before I could even articulate that they were lessons, because it's exactly what.

I grew up working crew, and I know who comes into a studio and is nice to the crew, and who comes into a studio and isn't. And I'm really grateful for those lessons I learned before I could even articulate that they were lessons, because it's exactly what.

You're talking about, Sharon. It's what you learn in the theater. It's being.

You're talking about, Sharon. It's what you learn in the theater. It's being.

Being on the crew side on a film set, or being part of the crew in a theater like it is. It's why we use this term circus affectionately. It's why you hear me say it all the time because it takes all of us. And yeah, it's always really cool to watch people who navigate it well. And you certainly taught me, Sharon, to Joy's point, like I can when something's wrong on set, I'll be the first person to stand.

Being on the crew side on a film set, or being part of the crew in a theater like it is. It's why we use this term circus affectionately. It's why you hear me say it all the time because it takes all of us. And yeah, it's always really cool to watch people who navigate it well. And you certainly taught me, Sharon, to Joy's point, like I can when something's wrong on set, I'll be the first person to stand.

Up and be like, do not speak to the crew that way.

Up and be like, do not speak to the crew that way.

And you know, like I get into ferociousness, and you managed to do it, but like in a way that makes people go, oh, she's so funny, she's so cool, And I'm like, oh, I'm going to try to learn from Sharon.

And you know, like I get into ferociousness, and you managed to do it, but like in a way that makes people go, oh, she's so funny, she's so cool, And I'm like, oh, I'm going to try to learn from Sharon.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't have to let my like sharp little ADHD brain drive the car.

I don't have to let my like sharp little ADHD brain drive the car.

All the time.

All the time.

Grease is definitely one of your superpowers, one hundred percent, because even before you came onto this, as soon as you're as soon as Sylvia came on the screen, I think we all were saying, like she just floats into this room.

Grease is definitely one of your superpowers, one hundred percent, because even before you came onto this, as soon as you're as soon as Sylvia came on the screen, I think we all were saying, like she just floats into this room.

You float in every scene.

You float in every scene.

Well, that that's the dance background for sure, and for those kinds, for that kind of character, it did make sense. And there are characters that I play who don't who shouldn't, and I'm I'm grateful for that training.

Well, that that's the dance background for sure, and for those kinds, for that kind of character, it did make sense. And there are characters that I play who don't who shouldn't, and I'm I'm grateful for that training.

Do we want to do some honorable mentions? Gang, Yeah, Sharon, The honorable mentions are just sort of the whatever was sort of a highlight for us in the episode. It can be something we've already discussed, it can be something we haven't, but just something you want to shout out as it was something you particularly liked.

Do we want to do some honorable mentions? Gang, Yeah, Sharon, The honorable mentions are just sort of the whatever was sort of a highlight for us in the episode. It can be something we've already discussed, it can be something we haven't, but just something you want to shout out as it was something you particularly liked.

I particularly liked being out there on the water on that inner coastal that is so special to us North Carolinians, especially those of us who love Wilmington. I'd also like to shout out this.

I particularly liked being out there on the water on that inner coastal that is so special to us North Carolinians, especially those of us who love Wilmington. I'd also like to shout out this.

Listeners. Sharon just put on her one Tree Hill season eight rap hat.

Listeners. Sharon just put on her one Tree Hill season eight rap hat.

Wow. It's so good, right and I found it recently and it really means so much to me to have to have that keep saying. And when I went back to Wilmington last year as the Azalea Queen for the seventy seventh Annual Azalea Festival share it. Yes, yes, yes, the love for One Tree Hill just is still so vibrant and vital. And you guys have made it so because you go back to do the fan the reunions, and it's you have left an indelible print on that that city.

Wow. It's so good, right and I found it recently and it really means so much to me to have to have that keep saying. And when I went back to Wilmington last year as the Azalea Queen for the seventy seventh Annual Azalea Festival share it. Yes, yes, yes, the love for One Tree Hill just is still so vibrant and vital. And you guys have made it so because you go back to do the fan the reunions, and it's you have left an indelible print on that that city.

Whet Sharon being the Azalea Festival Queen, does that mean you did the like ride in the in the convertible and the whole.

Whet Sharon being the Azalea Festival Queen, does that mean you did the like ride in the in the convertible and the whole.

Oh yes, the motorcade the oldest Azalia queen by thirty years, definitely, and and it feels fabulous. It was fabulous. They dressed me beautye, fantastic bridal shop that just made it all so easy. With the fried stuff that just really worked on a gorgeous count. And I have the distinct pleasure because I'm sure now it will be public, but to hand the thrown over to none other than Joy, Oh.

Oh yes, the motorcade the oldest Azalia queen by thirty years, definitely, and and it feels fabulous. It was fabulous. They dressed me beautye, fantastic bridal shop that just made it all so easy. With the fried stuff that just really worked on a gorgeous count. And I have the distinct pleasure because I'm sure now it will be public, but to hand the thrown over to none other than Joy, Oh.

My god, we know her, Oh my god.

My god, we know her, Oh my god.

And of course that's the moment she had to go, oh my god, no, yeah, that's so fun perfect.

And of course that's the moment she had to go, oh my god, no, yeah, that's so fun perfect.

Well, she's very excited. They're very excited. I'm very cute.

Well, she's very excited. They're very excited. I'm very cute.

Listen, that's a big tiara to Phil coming in after you. But I think if anyone can do it.

Listen, that's a big tiara to Phil coming in after you. But I think if anyone can do it.

It's Joy, Rob, you'll get your chance.

It's Joy, Rob, you'll get your chance.

Do they have Azalea whatever festival, kings or princes.

Do they have Azalea whatever festival, kings or princes.

We're going to have to figure it out because you'll need to do it at some point.

We're going to have to figure it out because you'll need to do it at some point.

Let's be progressive about this guy, as I'd like to be an Azalia king.

Let's be progressive about this guy, as I'd like to be an Azalia king.

There we go, we'll speak it into my honorable mention. Oh my gosh, hold on.

There we go, we'll speak it into my honorable mention. Oh my gosh, hold on.

I have so okay, you scare your notes. I have two. The first one's obvious. It's to Joy because she directed the heck out of this episode. I remember before we even started directing, she sent an email to all of us. It was just very sweet and thoughtful. It was like, hey, it's going to be a madness. I just want everyone to stay alive, which means like, if you're in the background, have a conversation with someone, here's how the room's going to be blocked. Maybe think about where you'd like to be. Like she was so on top of it, but in watching this episode now, it's just so good from start to finish, and she did an amazing job. But my second honorable mention goes to my daughter, who, for the second episode in a row, was awake for the entire thing. Fussing playing and then fell asleep as we're wrapping up the episode. Wow, she needs to work on her timing.

I have so okay, you scare your notes. I have two. The first one's obvious. It's to Joy because she directed the heck out of this episode. I remember before we even started directing, she sent an email to all of us. It was just very sweet and thoughtful. It was like, hey, it's going to be a madness. I just want everyone to stay alive, which means like, if you're in the background, have a conversation with someone, here's how the room's going to be blocked. Maybe think about where you'd like to be. Like she was so on top of it, but in watching this episode now, it's just so good from start to finish, and she did an amazing job. But my second honorable mention goes to my daughter, who, for the second episode in a row, was awake for the entire thing. Fussing playing and then fell asleep as we're wrapping up the episode. Wow, she needs to work on her timing.

Listen, or she's perfect because she was a sweet baby angel. We got a little bit of headphone grab which we love to see, and now we're going to wrap up for the day and you have a sleeping baby and you can have some rob time.

Listen, or she's perfect because she was a sweet baby angel. We got a little bit of headphone grab which we love to see, and now we're going to wrap up for the day and you have a sleeping baby and you can have some rob time.

You're right, she's perfect, said, she's perfect.

You're right, she's perfect, said, she's perfect.

Pect she's perfect.

Pect she's perfect.

Honestly, my, there's so many I just thought everybody was so good in the episode. But the bonding of you, Sharon and Daphne for me was so much fun to watch and gave me all the fun I got to have in the episode. To have the moms be the foils and love each other, and to get my moment to you know, pull you aside and say why are you bonding like? It was fun for me And I don't know, I think there's something. There's just something I love about getting to focus on you both, and I like watching you both as a viewer.

Honestly, my, there's so many I just thought everybody was so good in the episode. But the bonding of you, Sharon and Daphne for me was so much fun to watch and gave me all the fun I got to have in the episode. To have the moms be the foils and love each other, and to get my moment to you know, pull you aside and say why are you bonding like? It was fun for me And I don't know, I think there's something. There's just something I love about getting to focus on you both, and I like watching you both as a viewer.

So it's you and Daphne for me.

So it's you and Daphne for me.

Wow, I can throw in a third real quick. It would be the exchange between Brooke and Sylvia when when Sylvia is like you should call your mom it's Thanksgiving, and Brooke is like, absolutely not. If if anyone wants to go back and watch that scene because it's great from from both Sofa and Sharon, but watch the final moment of Sylvia processing what Joy has just said. Because I went back and watched again because it's what's so good about it is there's so much happening behind your eyes that like it gave me as an audience member, like so much room to go? Was it this? Was it that? Because the first time I watched it, I went, Ooh, that's a controlling mom who realizes she might have a hard time controlling this person. And then I went back and watching it again, I'm like, or is she trying to understand her? It's a great thing actors do where it's like they don't they muddy the water, you know, they don't make it easy to decide on a character. But that moment that you give at the end of it, I was like, Oh, take that to therapy. There you go.

Wow, I can throw in a third real quick. It would be the exchange between Brooke and Sylvia when when Sylvia is like you should call your mom it's Thanksgiving, and Brooke is like, absolutely not. If if anyone wants to go back and watch that scene because it's great from from both Sofa and Sharon, but watch the final moment of Sylvia processing what Joy has just said. Because I went back and watched again because it's what's so good about it is there's so much happening behind your eyes that like it gave me as an audience member, like so much room to go? Was it this? Was it that? Because the first time I watched it, I went, Ooh, that's a controlling mom who realizes she might have a hard time controlling this person. And then I went back and watching it again, I'm like, or is she trying to understand her? It's a great thing actors do where it's like they don't they muddy the water, you know, they don't make it easy to decide on a character. But that moment that you give at the end of it, I was like, Oh, take that to therapy. There you go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Should we do a listener question?

Should we do a listener question?

Yes we should. What do we got?

Yes we should. What do we got?

Rob Chloe asks if you could have any person dead or alive narrate a movie or documentary about your life. Who would it be?

Rob Chloe asks if you could have any person dead or alive narrate a movie or documentary about your life. Who would it be?

Oh, I have one. I have one, and I think you'll like it.

Oh, I have one. I have one, and I think you'll like it.

Sharon. Years ago. Actually, when we were doing our show, I got to be part of this really cool thing and it was a story, you know, about a bunch of young women actors whatever, and we got the whole thing was you know, they always do those silly like next generation whatever that means lists, But what they did was they photographed each of us in the style of like an old Hollywood actress. And I got to with this voice of mine be Lauren Bacall for the day, so the hair and the clothes and the whole thing. And you know, we did little video clips and I delivered. They just put your lips together and blow and the whole whatever. And I don't know why in my brain as I was trying to think of, you know, whose voice would I want to hear? I would I would love if I could bring her back and listen to her talk.