Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pop Brothers at Law with special guests Joe G from m JS Wellness. Find out how he got started in the CBD industry and his planned to go global in South Korea.
Hello, welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one Monday is Blue. Alongside of me is the world famous Joe Grande, Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pop Brothers at Law, and we have an amazing show for you guys today.
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Well it looks like you forgot to pay your phone bill. And Mark Washerman is on a remote cut at court right now. No, your phone's cutting out, Dog, You got to get a real plan. First off, your brother's at home on the internet on a computer. They're both doing this via distance right now. Because Mark, how did you do your court go today? Did you win or did you lose? Again?
We never lose?
Well, he lost that Pro Bowl that we were fighting forever and we lost today. Well, Mark, you keep cutting out. You might as well drive over here because we can't even hear you. Mark. Just start driving.
It'll start giving you better reception, because your reception is not worth listening to.
So moving on. Joe, Yes, thank you guys for listening to at least Craig, Joe and Blue. Mark is in left field as usual. And if you ever want to follow us on Instagram, it's at Cannabis Talk one on one at Pot Underscore, Brothers Underscore at Underscore. Law. Mark's at Waslaw, Craig's at was Waslaw, Dog blues at one, Christopher right, and I am at Joe Grande fifty two today. Somebody's Stealing My name is on the show partially he goes by Joe G and the reason you go by Joe G. H.
I took Japanese in college, so my friends kind of nicknamed me that nice.
Well, you know, Joe G is the founder and formulator of MJ's Wellness. You can go online to Mj'sdelivery dot com, which is m J S D E l I V E r s dot com. He's on Instagram at mjs Underscore Wellness w E L L n E S S. And I got to tell you, Joe, for those who are just listening to this on the podcast the first time, tell us a little bit how you came up as the CEO and the formulator of MJ's Wellness. Because we've talked to you, and I've been dealing with you for years when we first met, when you had your golf tournament, you had a cannabis golf tournament. But we did this on the FM radio show in southern California. Now you're heard in eighty six different countries right now, so we're gonna do everything like we've never talked to you obviously. Sure that being said, how does the company come? How did you bring it up? How'd you start this?
Well? Nineteen let's see twenty ten, I started researching cannabis products that were developed before the government made it illegal, and I found that most of the the corporation's pharma corporations had products that they made. Most of them were called tinctures, which is an alcohol extraction tincture. And I went from that and kind of moved forward and started off where they left off and created a new line of products. Back then, they were called MJ's Wild Nectars, and they were pretty much products to get you high through a different delivery method, a sublingual route, and did that for about four years, and then in twenty fourteen, I met the mayor of a city in San Diego and he had a stage four squamas cell carcinoma, and unbeknownst to me, I gave him my new products that I was making, some CBD products, and in forty five days he went into remission and he said it was my products, and I didn't believe it. In fact, the first five remissions, I still was having a hard time believing that my products were doing it. And from there, moving forward to today, I'm on my fifty fourth remission that I have actual testimonial and proof of and.
It's just over to dad.
We got to send them over to dad.
I gave your dad this number a while back, Mark and Craig, and I believe you.
Guys talked to your dad. I talked to their dad, and I talked to his dad, and I think we kind of got lost in translation there follow up or whatnot.
But happy to help line. Yeah, matter of fact, their parents just called me the other night asking about what they should take, and I actually referred them again. You saying, I don't know if you guys have talked to Joe.
Maybe he forgot.
That's possible, yeah, more than likely.
But what makes we'll follow that.
We'll follow up with that though, because he has life.
Absolutely more important, absolutely something else.
Well, we'll put him on the right track for sure, and something like that, Joe, what's the difference between that? What makes MJ's product different from every other product out there?
So I think the number one thing is is if you look out in the legal market, I'd say ninety five percent of the companies that make cannabis tinctures, they're not really tinctures. They're actually just a liquid edible, but they sell it as a tincture. I used to make tinctures now I created serums, and there's a big difference between the two. The serum is oral, sublingual, topical, It has multiple pathways of delivery. And what I try to do is create a multiple spectrum product that's delivered into multiple pathways into the body to try and activate as many receptor cells as you can. And when you do that, you actually excite the body's receptors and turn them on. And I think the reason why my stuff's effective is really my design, my dose and delivery methods.
What are the delivery methods that you're currently using. I mean, obviously there's oral, but what else.
So every cancer pation I work with that's in serious metastatic stage four, they do a monthly protocol. They take the oral, sublinguals, the topicals and suppositories and I try to give them a dose or they actually give their own dose, but every three hours, and by doing so, it keeps them what we call the therapeutic range, which is a range of cannabinoids in the body that don't overload the body but activate and stimulate. You to make your own endocannabinoids, which we all make, which are called a nandamide and two AGR.
So you're actually giving it to them three to four different you know ways of meThe yeah, methods of topicals again oral and then suppositories, and so then you're saying to do that every three hours to give them a consistent a dosage.
Is that I mean, you know, during business.
Hours or while they're awake, or should they even wake up and continue.
So the one thing about my products is there there's no high to them. They're given in a dose that's low enough to activate, and also in the acidic form of cannabinoids, which is tetrahydrocannabinolic acid, So it's like taking the flour and eating it. But they just did a study in Israel doctor mashu Lan, and he found that the acidic forms of cannabis are ten to thirty times more therapeutic than the activated THC. And the big misnomer is most people think you have to get high to heal yourself, and it's exactly the opposite. I've had patients that I put him halfway into remission in two months, and then they go off the deep end. They start eating edibles, they start smoking vapes, and what happens is your body will actually shut down the cannabinoid receptors they do what's called down regulation, and the receptors actually turn off. So that's why you can't overdose on cannabis. Your body won't allow it. It has a system designed to shut down. So when you overload, you take too many dabs or you eat too many edibles, you can't get any higher than that highest high. So I eliminate the high a lot of reasons. Like your dad, I work with kids that are two three years old up to ninety five years old, and they don't want to be high, but they'd like to have a chance to at least to try and heal.
So when you say the medicine with a lower THC, would that be for anyone and everyone? Like say, for instance Mark when he says he gets medicated or Quig, would they be better medicated if they weren't smoking and they were doing just more CBD? Or when you use that reference, is it only for people who need it for a certain treatment or illness?
Good question. Actually, you can take cannabis in any dose and it can be therapeutic. It depends on the individual person and what they're trying to ameliorate. I know a lot of women like to smoke cannabis, because it helps with anxiety, it helps with depression. The one thing that I've seen with people that have serious disease is you're better off almost resetting, taking three days off and not doing anything and then starting with the lowest dose. Because shockingly, you guys, probably and most people won't believe this, but the fifty four cancer emissions that I have, these people took no more than one hundred milligrams a day total. That's the I was gonna ask you that next. Yeah, that's the equivalent of taking a couple hits off a joint. But I stretch it out over the full day. And as Blue was mentioning, you know, what do you do at night? So I have a nighttime formula that you take before bed, a serum and then you do the suppositories, so you're getting the medication while you're sleeping and makes her a great night sleep too.
It's just crazy to think that out of the.
How long did it actually take you to make the formula and create these formulas? What was that process like and how long did it take and what were some of those legal hurdles that you had to get past because of the laws surrounding cannabis.
So the.
Original method that I used was I mixed the cannabinoid oils with honey, agave and natural syrups. But what I found was it's all sugar, and cancer is fed by sugar. So I kind of moved away from that and I developed the serums in order to absorb into a different metabolic pathway in the body. And so as far as as far as the testing goes, when I got into the legal market, they test for everything, seventy pesticides, forty solvents, fifteen heavy metals, everything, and I was able to pass it on the first try. Shockingly, I mean even the homogeneity test. On the legal side, it really has been more or less whatever the state allows us to do. I think as far as methods, it's not that difficult of a process. It's just it's kind of the way I design it. And there's some IP technology in there that I that I have that I don't really share, but it does help out quite a bit.
I would think that's the case is this is your products sold in cannabis retailers or.
CBD.
So okay, So I've been in the legal market for the last year. In the last three months, my original partners decided to pull out because they lost so much money with the legalization and all. Oh yeah, and I start back with my same same building, same area in about a month and a half. And you mentioned hemp. I've never made or I've never sold a hemp product in my life. But my products are right now in South Korea's f DA. They're being tested right now so I can import into South Korea. And it's the same exact design. It's just using a t free hemp distol it is instead of a cannabis because that's what they're testing for. If there's any TAC in it, they're gonna fail it.
Sure, so your product's going global.
Then, yeah, shockingly, I'm pretty excited about it.
Yeah, that makes it interesting. Let's take a break real quick and we come back. You said you have fifty four remissions.
Yeah.
I want to hear some of the stories of some of these top remissions that I remember hearing before that are just mind boggling. You're gonna want to hear this. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll be right back after this.
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one with the Pop Brothers at Law, Joe Grande and myself Blue and Joe.
Are you tired of day? I'm so exhausted. Yeah, You're just like I don't even I feel you're like you're I feel like I need to pick you up and put you I don't even know why. I was like, I've had a I know why. You know why, You're just like not smoking cigarettes here and there. I'm just use that nicotine. Joe, we probably went to you've mentioned the fifty four remissions. Give us some of the stories of some of the great, you know, developments that your product has done for these patients.
Sure, so I always go back to this one lady that I met. She had a glioblastoma brain tumor. It's one of the deadliest forms of cancer. Normally, what happens is they'll go in if they can, they'll try to remove as much of the tumor as possible, but it grows back exponentially within the next six months, and usually you're dead within six months. And I started with this lady two and a half years ago. She was diagnosed the same month that Neil Peart, the drummer of Rush, who just passed in January, same exact type of tumor. She's still alive to this day. Her doctors still don't understand why the tumor hasn't grown anymore. So she's one of my favorites. And I think one of the craziest types of cancer that I've dealt with is pancreatic cancer. It's probably the fastest and most deadly of all. And I have seven pancreatic remissions and as fast as it kills you for some reason, taking these protocols, it's the fastest remissions that I've seen, usually forty five fifty day max.
That's awesome.
You know, I would like to just what I'd like to do is I'd like to have some of them on the show with you, you know what I mean, absolutely, just their testimony.
This is what's funny, you guys. It's just hard to do. I mean, here's a real.
Joe what's it call Joe, Joe, what's it called?
Anecdotal? Anecdotic evidence, anecdotal and said it right the first time, exactly. Well, I was going to get to the story, which is I had a kid named Mouricio that I've been mentoring since he was fifteen years old. He was twenty three twenty four when he told me he got cancer. I called Joe. Right. So since I first met you, Joe, in between that, I've called you for two or three people, You've helped each one of them. They're probably some of these fifty fours. Mouricio was And like I said, this is a kid that I was his big brother when I worked at the radio station. I remember I heard the story with Joji. Yes, but after we've interviewed, so then By'm letting the audience know that, you know, I called Joji and said, Joe, I got this kid that is like my son to me, what can we do? And you know, he was going to chemo and he was doing all kinds of things and he got on Joe's protocol and then I don't know how quick it was. But the best part about it was jo g calling me, going, Joe grande, you just joined yourself some more wings And I go, what do you mean? He goes Modiscio's and remission and Modisio called me too, and he goes, you earned your wings from above helping somebody else out. And I get the chills just because of the call that Joe gave me. The Modistio called me following that proto call going dude, it worked. I'm in, you know, remission. So it's like crazy out there that you market Craig don't care enough about your dad to follow up on somebody where I have to. You know it there, I don't get it.
Since you're big, you know what.
That I'm going to call your mother and I'm going to make sure.
Made a decision to try this other medication for another round. And that was his decision to make. I made that decision that he's going off of that other drug, and I'm going to try to get.
Him definite, you know, when you have enough anecdotal le because it can't can't hurt, right.
It's difficult, you know. I I'll tell you what.
You know, when my my father was going through cancer and and and chemo and and all the pills and everything else. You know, we we went to a uh suppository, uh you know, some edibles and he was doing high, high doses of edibles and he wouldn't stop smoking because that's his thing. But he he completely kicked all the the opioids. He completely kicked all the the drugs and the narks, narcos, norcos and the oxy cotton and all this stuff they were giving him. He kicked all that and was like, I'm quitting. And I'm like, you can't just quit, dad, Like you've been taking this ship so well, you can't just quit. And he's like, I don't care. He's like, I'm dying anyways, I'm quitting. So he quit all that, and as soon as he did, and he went straight to like edibles and and the repositories and the different you know cannabis that he was using.
I'll be honest, man, he was on his feet. You know, he was in bed for changed dude. It's amazing, man, I mean he was literally in bed. How much did he last without taking any of the pains and everybody, well, he until until he was in hospitalized, and that's all they would give him because then they were like, well he's on he doesn't He keeps saying he doesn't want you know, yeah, morphine and stuff like that.
But they're like, this is comfort care, so you have a choice. You're in charge of it now. And it's like do you want to give him comfort care or do you want to see him suffer there in pain?
So comfort yeah? Well, and it gets to even worse.
I mean when you know, and I never really said this in front of anybody, but it's something that you, as as an adult, will probably have to go through.
If you have to watch your.
Parents leave, is you know, there's a point where you have to say, you know, do you let them go or do you let them live on on the I do have with both my parents, Yeah, and and and so you have to go through that process. And when you're going through that process, you're like, oh, yeah, and then and then do you want to give them comfort care? Do you want to give them you know, morphine and keep them high pretty much? And then while they're super high and they're you know, in that that state, you know, you can't even ask them questions, you can't even talk to them, and they're overswollen and they're just like gosh, you know, and then you want to believe, you know, they're coming back. They're gonna there's gonna be a miracle.
I guess the point where there's no bouncing back and it happens, I mean, you know, and it's this is and by by no means I'm gonna say this for you, Joji. You're not saying this is the cure all for everyone out.
There No, Actually, I think it's complementary, uh to many things. I've had people that have had seven rounds of chemo income to me and ask me to help. I've had peeople that were just diagnosed, didn't do any chemo, they still went to remission. I am. I'm pretty confident that if you're gonna do chemo, you should absolutely take a cannabis protocol. It actually can protect your body from all the damage chemo does. And I've seen it. I've lost three people to chemo. They had no cancer in their body when they passed.
Wow. And what's the weirdest one, what's the weirdest type of you know, scenario you helped with?
Man? Okay, beyond cancer, I've had some really weird disorders. One of them is called more gallons. It's a skin parasite and it's from lime disease. Actually, when the tick bites you, it puts three parasites in your body. One of them is a skin parasite and it actually eats your skin and hair, and as gross as it sound, it poops it out underneath your skin. So these people scratch their skin and they've got holes all over their body. They go to the doctor. The doctor says you need to go see a psychiatrist because their microscopic. So I went on Facebook, thinking, hey, I can help all these people. I help this one guy with it, and the Facebook groups banned me from all their sites because I wouldn't tell them how I make my product. I said, I've never heard of more gallons. I work with cancer patients. So they banned me. They talked bad about me. But I got about ten private messages from women and they were all women. They all had it, and I met them all. They all got the protocol and they all experienced the exact same thing. Cannabis boosts your immune system and these parasites live in your body because they suppress your immune system. As soon as they took the oral, sublingual and the topical, they spent about eight hours in the shower because these parasites just come straight out of the skin. It's like they're jump they're jumping ship. And that's probably one of the weirdest. Another one is something called complex.
Um.
Yeah, a cheeseburger just comes out. What about the very first one? What's your very the very first case? When was that?
And show twenty fourteen? I was in Pala Mesa golf course and I'm sitting at the bar after a round of golf and I look over at this guy and I said, hey, you look just like Robert de Niro. And he turns to me and he goes, oh, yeah, A lot of people tell me that. And half his next missing and I'm like, is that cancer? He goes, yeah, I got squamas cell carsonoma. It turns out his name is Bud Bud Cole. He was the mayor pro tem of Bonzil in San Diego. And I said, so, what's your plan now? He goes, well, I'm looking for that cannabis oil. And I said, really, come out to my truck. So I gave him my new medicine that I had developed, and forty five days later he calls me and says, come down to my ranch. I want to talk to you. So I went down there. He's like, I want you.
To grow on my property. Here.
You cured my cancer. I'm like, what are you talking about. He's like, check it out. He pulled up his sleeves, all the tumors in his arms were gone. He was metastatic. So he went into full remission. And the funny story about him was he has parties every weekend, So for like two months straight, every Friday night he'd have me come down and he'd have a line of people standing there waiting to talk to me. I felt like Jesus like, come come to me, son, what is your problem? And man every type of issue from COPD to skin disorders. That was great. He's still going strong. He travels the world right now with the band.
That's great. What about we're talking to Joe g from MJ's Wellness and you can go on their website and check them out. Mjs Wellness dot com is the website MJ's Deliver Sorry yeah, and then on ig it's mjs Underscore Wellness. But what would you tell people, Joe who are skeptical of cannabis and sit there and think it's the gateway or don't want to treat it for anything else. What's your message of those cats out there? You know?
Good question. I've had a lot of people that they're just they have a fear of it. Everything they see about it is you're high, you can't control yourself. And unfortunately religion also plays a part in it where they feel like they can't do this. And what I try to tell everybody is you've already done it. You make cannabis in your body every day. Your body develop a system called the endocannabinoid system, and you make in very small quantities nandamide and two AG. Nandamide is almost an identical molecule to THC, so our bodies make it naturally. But in nineteen thirty seven, when they made it illegal, they stripped everyone from getting those cannabinoids. And we used to get them from the animals we ate, because all the animals we'd eat feral hemp and we get tiny the cannabinoids that way. So I think that's why it's so beneficial in the lowest dose, because that's the way our bodies kind of evolved. And it's it's it's it's nothing to fear. For one, you don't have to get high to benefit from cannabis.
And then someone says, but no, trojy, it's the gateway drug.
Yeah, well it's it's actually the exit drug. I've got probably fifty veterans that were on opioids and everything and they switch over to this stuff, and every time they went to reach for a pill, they grab the bottle, take a squirt that reduces they're they're craving everything. So I've seen it with alcohol, heroin, every type of pharma drug out there. So it's not a gateway drug, it's an exit drug.
I think there's been a long list of like people that have just been coached, you know, throughout history to think that it's a gateway drug, because it's true that some people truly believe that this is. And when I could tell you right now, alcohol definitely is is way more of a gateady drug than anything because you know it's legal.
It's you know, you get all loose and y'all do that. I'll try that. Yeah, how many one night stands if you had drunk thinking, oh my god, that was a great decision I made. Yeah, yeah, I had a baby.
The pain killers, the pain killers.
I think the internet killer is killing.
Well, after they get injured, a lot of pins start in with everything else.
Well, yeah, they actually, I mean the protocol is always injury drug, you take the drug to alleviate the pain. And unfortunately, with many of these drugs, you have to increase the doses to get the same benefit. That's the difference with cannabis. In the lowest dose you can get the highest therapeutic benefit. And like I said before, you can't overdose on cannabis. It's just your body won't allow it.
So so what what's your background?
So funny? I mean I was in banking for thirty years and when uh, when the market crashed back in six and eight, you know, I I do like a chemist. Yeah, I just decided to get out of it. And as mentioned before, I started researching that cannabis became millie or legal in six there and I just started, you know, figuring out a way to get into that market. And man, I in the beginning, it was I was like the only guy that made these products. And up and down the state, I was like driving around like Tommy Boy selling selling tires and.
Breaks, selling brake pads.
Yeah.
I think it was. I think it was. I think it was bad.
Yeah it was brake pads. Yeah, Callahan, Callahan, callahan auto.
That's exactly what I was. So I think one of the one of the thought processes.
In my mind is Zelenski.
Yeah, one of the thought processes in my mind is that you know, has this been has this been difficult? With people that are out there that that you know when they have that you know that that that thought that it won't help them, you know what I mean, because in the beginning, I think it's more of the the disbelief and then and then and then once they actually are with you. So are you getting a lot of people that just won't do it because they don't believe?
Yeah?
I have.
I mean a recent story, a little three year old girl. The grandparents came to me and asked me to talk to the father. The father ends up being a drug rep for a chemo company. So he's no way, I'm never giving my child cannabis. And I'm thinking, you're giving him poison, you know, so.
Top of oxy and everything else to help him out with pain and this and that.
So there are there is a huge wall. And what I try to do is a soft approach, and really it's more or less. I try to teach them about it. I send them to places to educate themselves about it, and then make an informed much like I did when I was in finance. You know, you can't make a stupid decision and then you know, blame everybody. It's your choice. So I try to send them down the right path and then have them make that determination. And one of the things that I can't do is. I can't be there every day dosing these people, right, they have to take that and do it the way they do it, and it's really up to them and the ones that do it exactly the way I show them, they always have the best outcomes.
We're talking to Joe g right here from MJ's Delivery. That's MJS d E L I V E r S dot com on Instagram at MJS Underscore Wellness. Now, Joe, as you mentioned kids in dealing with that, for instance, my daughter who's seven, and a lot of kids out there that I get told, you know they have some type of add whether it be hyperactive, are just focusing Are these type of products good for children out there for that? Or go on the regular pill medication that every doctor wants to give to so many other kids like my daughter and everybody else out there.
Well, you know, personally, I'm not a big fan of pharma. I was a d D when I was a kid. My parents there's ten kids in my family, nine boys. My mom would would send us to school with seat belts and if we got out of line, the teacher was told to strap us into our seat. So that was our add medication.
Yeah, big belt, Yeah, I hold his asdam.
I think. I think it's over prescribed and it normally does more damage than help. Cannabis has been shown to have neurogenesis effects.
And it's so funny because I can only imagine when you say the word cannabis, so many people think I'm not gonna give my kid cannabis, almost like they're thinking you're gonna put a joint.
In their bactly, and that's just the case.
And it's like, it's not about smoking weed. That's the solution. It's so explain exactly what these type of products are that they're going to use. So child.
So let's say it's your child and and they're they're diagnosed with an a d D or an ADHD type situation. The first thing I do is I tell the client to start with the CBD. It has a small amount of THHC A in it, but you look there for a.
Small amount point zero three are a little more than.
That more than that. No, it's it's cannabis. It's not hemp. So I would say it's about a ten to one ratio.
It's point.
Is the legal right understand that?
Yeah, I would, I would always start them with the CBD first to alleviate the parents concern that, oh gosh, I'm giving my kid cannabis. But if that doesn't help, then I have them do the c therapy, which is a one to one blend of th C A and CBD. Now, th C A is the acidic form. Like I said before, there's no high to it. The only way you get high from cannabis is if you decarboxylate the molecule and you break the acidic chain off of that molecule, then you get a psychotropic effect. So it's not really required for a medical benefit, and so all my products are in the acidic form. The CBD isn't because there's no high to it. But what I try to do is blend as many cannabinoids into one product to get the maximum therapeutic Benit what I'd like to call the warm blanket effect, where it may help with three issues that you have, but you may have four other things that you didn't know you had, and it'll help with those two. So I would recommend any parent, regardless of the age, to try cannabinoids first.
I really would, and not only that, and I'm always telling people you should try it anyways. It's like you're taking vitamin C, vitamin D. If you're going to take these vitamins that help with your body as a supplements, you should be trying some CBD because CBD is going to do everything that you just described earlier. If you have inflammation, it's gonna help get the inflammation out. If your body's too low on something that's gonna help increase it, too high on something that's gonna help decrease it, whether you be a diabetic, high blood pressure, from cancer, there's so many different diseases out there that this is an all natural product that you should at least try because that pill you're taking that you think is helping you for the doctor is messing up your kidneys, your liver, your ulcers, your bladder, everything else internally that is twisting up, and you won't try something to put under your tongue. I don't understand the people that look at that and use what Blue was saying earlier, the gateway drug, the ooh, this cannabis is that you guys, when you hear the word cannabis, it's not always smoking weed. And I hope the right people could hear this message sometimes because I know a lot of people tell you are the ones that believe in it and know it. But it's like you know, those folks out there, if you're listening, this is the type of message that we have to get out to everyone because it's not just about smoking weed. Cannabis Talk one on one isn't just the advocates and pushing smoke weed. Everybody is the cure for aud No, the plants is the cure for all. And I'm gonna get off my soapbox. I'll be back at nine pm. Well, there it is, guys, It's Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll be right back after this break.
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, Joe Bronde, Mark and Craig Washerman and the Pop Brothers at Law. And today we are here with Joe g the founder and formulator of mj S Wellness, and I want to take just a brief second to thank Peanut, Pitt, Jennifer and Elvis before we get into the favorite part of the show, Joe.
It's the high five with Joe g Yes and you know what I just wish as people don't realize this, Mark is remote in his car right now doing that. I would love to be the person walking by cooin.
This guy I was talking to himself, Yeah, on drugs and the conference call doing like this game show hosting thing.
Welcome a joint? Yeah, I did join in his.
Car at court and he's at the courthouse of all places.
Oh as he lights a freedom baby, as you should, Mark, you should. Yes, it is time for the high five with Joji from MJ's Wellness Joe. Five questions for you. All you have to do is answer him as honest as can be. Question number one, how old are you the first time you got high? And where'd you get it from?
Well? I was thirteen. My next door neighbor was older than me, and he picked me up in his Ford Falcon and we drove up to this place called the Geek up in the foothills of Tust and smoke my first joint with him. And I wouldn't say every day since then, but pretty much close to he became a full timer.
Well that's good, it's made you a very smart man.
Yeah, all right.
Question number two, it looks like we lost Mark and Craig. I'm here, Oh no, you're there, okay, polite, I don't know why there is.
Your favorite way to consume cannabis.
I would say my favorite way is probably vaping dry herb. Other than taking my products. I'm recreational. I kind of tell my clients you got to be more medical. I'll be the recreational guy here. But I would say that vaping, you know, just regular flower.
Nice.
Nice question Number three of the high five craziest place you've ever used or smoked cannabis.
That would have to be in a hospital room with a cancer patient. Yeah, no, Joe, Yeah, well we were. We vaped, so it wasn't like the big smoke, but yeah, he took hits right there in the Bed's no orange orange, aren't you That's.
A good way to do it. You know, it's crew. It didn't you smoke some weird there? I was.
I was smoking there with my wife the other like last time she went to the hospital. I was just vaping in the We smoked like that like in the in in vapes, you know, But I mean I actually, well, you know, I don't want to go into my high five, but you know I smoked like in court in court in you know, uh, in a court room.
I remember you saying, yeah, but it wasn't in the actual court room. It was.
It was in the court the stairways, the stairway, walked in the stairways.
Fire a joint, fired a joint at the Hill Street at Hill Street down in l A.
And we'll do your high five next.
No, I know, I just I don't know how. I don't know how I got there street.
Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, we are here with Joe G, the founder of formulator of m J S Wellness High Gee, what is your go to munchies when you get high?
Oh? Man, it's really bad, But I love the pepper sunflower hour seeds.
Oh those are so fodav of those.
It's great about them is that you don't get the cat tongue after when you do with the salt ones. But yeah, yeah, definitely. I can eat a whole bag of those in a city.
My wife's favorite. Those are literally ones. Question number five of the High Five with Joe G. If you could smoke weed with anyone dead or alive, who would it be and why?
Well, you know, I hate to say this, but it would probably be my mom and my brother. Both of them passed away. My mom passed from lung cancer. My my brother Tony had an epilepsy and drowned in a jacuzzi.
Both things that you can kind of have cures for now.
Yeah, it's really sad. And I didn't know at the time. I didn't know cannabis was even medical back then.
How long ago did your mom pass? And brother?
She passed in six and then my brother Tony died in nineteen eighty three. One, Yeah, he drowned in a jacuzzi imself seizure. Yeah, oh yeah, it was tough, but it blew up the family. You know, nine boys, one girl. He was he was a rad dude, so those two for sure would be number one.
Sorry to hear that. There's no even reason why they're there's not even really like, there's not a reason why. So your mom and how old are you in your mom pass then?
I was probably in my thirties at that time.
But it's always tough no matter what I mean.
That's a warning about smoking cigarettes. My my my mother and her her sister both died within three months of each other. The pretty much cancer lung cancer.
Well and and uh what age seventy six, good little life. My dad died at sixty two, you know, from lung cancer, and you know that was kind of like for me.
I was like, oh, man, I can't go off the same way, you know what I mean. My mom died at fifty two from my dad from lung cancer diabetes.
Are my dad's ninety. I just golfed with them last Monday, Stripes of a Warrior Cancer tournament and we skied Mammoth in January. He's still going strong well.
Mark and Craig's dad. How old is he? Eighty seven? He's eighty seven and the dude still goes to the batting cages or eighty six? Which one is it, you guys, the little brother or older brother? Either way? Hour fastball? Yeah, he still eating ninety and he has the cancer that you know, It's just he's a tough son of a gun. I tell you, Yeah, I love seeing that guy out there.
Let's get him a protocol and get him started.
Before you know, he's in one hundred mile an hour fastballs.
Yeah, well, no, I I think I think it's worth, you know, giving it a shot. Like I said, my father on his way out, you know, when he went straight over to cannabis and kicked all the opioids in his life. It literally put him to a better quality for quality. Yeah, and a lot of people don't understand that quality of life. But let me assure you when you feel that quality of that new quality of life and he could see it in soody, it'll change.
Your life, you know. So be smart about out there, guys. Yeah, and look up the website m J s well, uh deliveries dot com. And just to let you know, Mark.
Devers delivers delivers, yeah, don't deliver results.
Say it again in the right way. So go ahead, and you.
Said mj'sdelivers dot com.
M J m J MJS d E L I V E R S and the way it's written out, just to say for you Mark as well, because you did the same thing I've done for years now. It's MJ's not m j S. So MJ's is how you're supposed to call it, Mary Jane. Yeah, but I've done it wrong since I've met him. So that's my fault.
I forgot to put the apostrophe in my logo.
We'll fix that for you, brother. And I always, and I know that, I always, Oh, MJ S. What he's like, MJ's. Oh God, so Joe Joe G what's the future look like for MJ's therapeutic brand.
Well, I'll tell you some really exciting. My track's always been the medical side of cannabis. And I have a friend who invested early with me, and he got this patent from a friend. His friend wanted to borrow some money, so he took the patent in lieu of the loan, and the guy never paid him back. So he took the patent into a scientist and he goes, you know what you got here? He's like, no, what is And he goes, you have a bacteria that can eat out oil or any contaminant in about two weeks and will clean the ground and make it fertile again. So he started selling to Dubai and all these other countries. And then about four months ago he calls me and says, I need you to come and meet this doctor. And I'm like, for what is this a Dubai. No, this is in North Carolina, so I can't really say his name. But he's a drug discovery doctor. He's developed over seven hundred drugs. He pats them, he puts them through his own clinical trials, and then sells them to the pharma companies. And he's this he wants to do hemp and cannabis now. So I went out there about a month and a half ago. I went through all of my remissions and stories, and I'm going back in a couple of weeks and I'm crossing my fingers hopefully to get a clinical trial going. He has a DEA license, so it's it's the it's the shuest path for me. And and uh, he asked me, what what what what kind of trial do you want to do? And I told him, let's do pancreatic cancer. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, come on, that's that's the that's the worst kind.
The doctors there with him as well, Oh yeah, there.
Were there were a bunch of guys there shaking their heads and and uh, you know, it's it's it's really hard for a doctor to to be a forty year on collegist and have someone like me come up and their patient goes into remission in two and a half months.
And but it works.
They don't know what to say, they don't know what to do. A lot of them are egos are so big that they would never even admit it. But it's it's changing. Things are changing now, so My goal is to trajectory towards that, try and get a trial going. And and you know, we're going to have a vote in September for the More Act, which is legalizing it at a federal level. If they pull it off schedule one, then it opens the door for trials and stuff. So I'd like to be one of the first horses in the gate.
You know, you can still kind out of we got to flip the Senate for that to happen, I know, I know, otherwise the More Act will sit on the floor of the Senate.
Of course, McConnell, they'll probably roll it up and smoke it.
But you know, well we can probably we can still go.
But you know, hey, of all the chances that that it's looking like, I mean, there's a very good chance that we could flip the Senate, yep, yep.
It's an election year, you know. They they want to try and get everybody on their ship. So maybe it'll happen.
If now's not the times, we don't have a time at.
All elected to flip this thing, so we can get it off the list.
Yeah, what I say to people is, don't wait for the government to help you. You have your life. It's your decision and you keep your life in your hands. You can listen to the doctors and the experts, but intuitively, you should look for cannabis first. I would tell everyone if you if you're diagnosed, do a month's a month's protocol and then go get a scan. If you see reduction, don't start the chemo. Sure, take another month's worth and get another scan.
Well again, I think it's the way I've said it for a long time now is that our country is one of the most sophisticated countries in the world, and for them to come out and say that cannabis has medical use, legalize it in more than fifty percent of the states in the United States, you better wake up and smell a coffee because it is happening. You just haven't experimented it yet. And so there's no way, there's no way absolutely that we just came out and goes, oh, it's medical and and you know, it's a kind of it's kind of this. No, it's not kind of this or kind of that. It's anecdotal evidence. It has they've already done.
Their research that Joe's going to be doing. Correct, they've already done this research what happy it.
Is where your your products are carried in only licensed retailers in California.
Correct.
Yeah, so right now I'm actually not in the legal market. I'll be transitioning back in in about a month with a ninety eight Leaf up in Adlonto.
Oh really okay, Yeah, that dispensary that that that's where you'll be able to get your product.
Well, I'll be back into all the stores. The problem with with the legal market is a lot of them don't care about the medical side. They're selling the high and it's you know, you come in, you talk to a bud tender and they're selling you the highest potency of wax and and it's it's a little boring to stoners because the first thing they say is what it doesn't even get you high? So, you know, it's it's a different sales approach really. So my goal and hopefully with ninety eight Leaf is we're going to have a delivery service and I will then start almost like an Amazon type of delivery where a patient can go online, order their products and they'll be delivered to their home every month on a certain date. Love it. Yeah, So it's almost like a subscription model. And that way we know what the clients are taking. And I think I'm resulting.
Yeah, I was going to ask you if there was that a legal store, like when you walk into you know, do the butt tenders know? Because I went to a store in sant Anna. It's real good friend of ours, and I brought in a very uh seventy year old friend of mine that whose ninety five year old mother was going through the end of life and they wanted some tin sture or whatever it was, and they were able to give her a you know, a fifty to fifty, a three to one, A low low THC high CBD. And I think more of the retailers are starting to get a little more sophisticated.
They are actually the young the younger generations really looks at it more medically. As I mentioned before, a lot of women use it and and I think it's changing. I really feel that the medical side's going to have its day here pretty soon. And you know, like I said in the beginning, there's therapeutic benefit in every dose. Man, If you're an end of life and you want to take an edible and get rocked out of your mind and then go sleep, that's great. That's therapeutic. I mean, what they do with morphine really is when they decide to finally put the drip on you, you never wake up.
You just turn it out.
You just fall asleep, and you never wake up again, and then finally your heart stops beating. So I had a gentleman just recently ninety two. His part of the reason why I got the Korean deal. The father didn't want to do the morphine, so he took my products. He was coherent the night he passed. He was in his chair talking to his wife and son, and he passed in his sleep, had no pain, no physical issues at all. Love it.
Yeah, that's like kind of like I think I'd like to go out to yah.
Yeah, I mean better than you know, just sitting there taking morphine and not knowing who's around you. My dad went out that way too, the last you know, he said, sending to me, and then the morphy kicked in and he thought I was somebody else yep, And I was like, damn, I wish you would have went in a way where hey me haul good. You know that. You know, they called me a different name, thought I was a different kid. So it's like, you know, this is a better way to go out. Joe, what are the other products out there? I know you got a new product that's red cream. What is this success?
So, so, my main protocols consist of a CBD daily U C therapy one to one therapy three three three with Delta eight, which is a really rare compound. It's getting real popular right now, but it has the ability to go after cancer cells that's spread in the body. And then I have topicals which are the roll ons, the suppositories. And my new product is the the MJ's wet Rose. It's a it's a cannabis loop sex loop. It's actually inedible. It can be used for everything. It also has medical and if it's using it that way too. So we'll figure out a marketing plan for that one here shortly, hopefully.
Yeah, God willing, I'm sure.
Maybe do some testing, you know, a line of people up there, and let's send one home.
Send one home for me.
I'm available. I'm available for testing.
Loube OK.
Can we use that as a promo? Please? Anything else you want to plug before we let you go?
Hey, I want to thank you guys. I mean, you guys do a great service to the to the world. Really, uh, the most important thing about cannabis is educating people and pulling the curtain back to show what what it really is and what it's really not. And I think you guys do a great job of that. And thank you for inviting me in here.
Well, thank you.
We want so, we want to thank you for being on our show and you always have. You're welcome to come back at any time, my friend. And one more time, with that website for.
Us, mj'sdelivers dot com. Mjs delivers dot com. We deliver results.
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