In this powerful conversation from the Better Than Yesterday archives, Michelle Cowan shares the lessons she’s learned from breaking barriers, challenging expectations, and building a career in a space where she was told she didn’t belong.

From writing letters to every AFL club as a teenager to becoming a leader the code, Michelle reveals the mindset that helped her keep going when others doubted her. She shares practical tools for handling criticism, staying confident in difficult environments, navigating challenging conversations, and knowing when it’s time to step away from a place that no longer aligns with your values.

It's a conversation about resilience, courage, leadership, and creating your own path — even when nobody else can see it yet.

LINKS 
Listen to the full episode with Michelle here
More info on Michelle here
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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How to Communicate Better in Every Conversation with Jefferson Fisher
The Iconic founder Adam Jacobs' reveals his top 3 ideas for success
What does it take to stay on your path when everything's falling apart?

In this powerful conversation from the Better Than Yesterday archives, Michelle Cowan shares the lessons she&rsquo;s learned from breaking barriers, challenging expectations, and building a career in a space where she was told she didn&rsquo;t belong.
From writing letters to every AFL club as a teenager to becoming a leader the code, Michelle reveals the mindset that helped her keep going when others doubted her. She shares practical tools for handling criticism, staying confident in difficult environments, navigating challenging conversations, and knowing when it&rsquo;s time to step away from a place that no longer aligns with your values.
It's a conversation about resilience, courage, leadership, and creating your own path &mdash; even when nobody else can see it yet.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to the full episode with Michelle <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/the-secret-to-maximising-productivity-is-play-and-other-insights-from-dr-ali-abdaal">here</a></li>
<li>More info on Michelle <a href="https://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/teams/aflw/coaches/michelle-cowan">here</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch episodes of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">&nbsp;on YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Send a pic of what you're looking at to <a href="mailto:sendosheremail@gmail.com">sendosheremail@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
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With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher Günsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it’s authentic conversations. Sometimes we’ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you’ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher G&uuml;nsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it&rsquo;s authentic conversations. Sometimes we&rsquo;ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you&rsquo;ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

Helping you make today better than yesterday since 2013.

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Günsberg

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Gunsberg

AFL Coach Michelle Cowan on How to Stay Confident When People Doubt You

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/437fe4b2-1178-4e13-98e2-b472006f752a/transcript

Katie Noonan is one of Australia's most acclaimed and celebrated musicians, but behind the awards, sold-out performances and extraordinary vocal talent is a story of resilience, reinvention and unwavering passion for the arts.

Having known each other for some 40 years, Katie sits down for this deeply personal conversation with Osher Günsberg, and opens up about navigating some of the hardest years of her life, including her recent and unexpected divorce. She speaks candidly about her journey with sobriety, her painful journey to an endometriosis diagnosis, navigating motherhood, and the mental and emotional challenges that come with a life spent in the spotlight.

They also explore Katie's lifelong love of music, from her earliest days growing up in Brisbane to building an internationally acclaimed career spanning jazz, opera, classical and contemporary music. Together, Katie and Osher discuss the transformative power of music education, why authentic voices matter in an age of autotune and AI, and the vital role Australian storytelling plays in shaping our national identity.

They also tackle the challenges facing Australia's creative industries, including the lasting impact of COVID-19, the decline of live music venues, arts funding, gambling sponsorships, and why supporting local artists has never been more important.

It's an honest, insightful and often hilarious conversation, and a powerful reminder that music is about far more than entertainment - it's about connection, healing, community and telling the stories that define who we are.

LINKS 
Katie Noonan's powerful 30th album Alone but all one is out now
Katie is always on the road performing live, be sure to check her out
Follow Katie (@katie_noonan_music) on Instagram
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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The Mindset Behind Daniel MacPherson's Transformation for latest film 'Beast'
Natalie Bassingthwaighte Lifts the Curtain on Her Career & Personal Struggles
The business end of show business with the unstoppable Dannii Minogue

Katie Noonan is one of Australia's most acclaimed and celebrated musicians, but behind the awards, sold-out performances and extraordinary vocal talent is a story of resilience, reinvention and unwavering passion for the arts.
Having known each other for some 40 years, Katie sits down for this deeply personal conversation with Osher G&uuml;nsberg, and opens up about navigating some of the hardest years of her life, including her recent and unexpected divorce. She speaks candidly about her journey with sobriety, her painful journey to an endometriosis diagnosis, navigating motherhood, and the mental and emotional challenges that come with a life spent in the spotlight.
They also explore Katie's lifelong love of music, from her earliest days growing up in Brisbane to building an internationally acclaimed career spanning jazz, opera, classical and contemporary music. Together, Katie and Osher discuss the transformative power of music education, why authentic voices matter in an age of autotune and AI, and the vital role Australian storytelling plays in shaping our national identity.
They also tackle the challenges facing Australia's creative industries, including the lasting impact of COVID-19, the decline of live music venues, arts funding, gambling sponsorships, and why supporting local artists has never been more important.
It's an honest, insightful and often hilarious conversation, and a powerful reminder that music is about far more than entertainment - it's about connection, healing, community and telling the stories that define who we are.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Katie Noonan's powerful 30th album <a href="https://gyro.to/AlonebutalloneAlbum">Alone but all one</a> is out now</li>
<li>Katie is always on the road performing live, be sure to <a href="https://www.katienoonan.com.au/shows">check her out</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Katie (@katie_noonan_music) on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katie_noonan_music/">Instagram</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
<li>Send a pic of what you're looking at to <a href="mailto:sendosheremail@gmail.com">sendosheremail@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
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<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/natalie-bassingthwaighte-lifts-the-curtain-on-her-career-personal-struggles">Natalie Bassingthwaighte Lifts the Curtain on Her Career &amp; Personal Struggles</a></li>
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</ul>

Katie Noonan Opens Up About Divorce, Endometriosis and How Music Can Heal Us

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/44a8810c-3504-47a4-be48-b486002472bc/transcript

In this episode of Better Than Yesterday, Osher revisits one of his most powerful conversations, with sole survivor of the 1997 Thredbo landslide, Stuart Diver. After 65 hours trapped beneath the rubble and enduring the loss of his wife Sally, Stuart has spent decades learning not just how to survive trauma, but how to build a meaningful life beyond it.

Stuart explores three practical tools he uses to protect his mental health and cultivate ongoing resilience, including exercise, deliberately creating and preserving positive memories before life changes, and why giving yourself permission to move forward isn't a betrayal of the people or experiences you've lost.

Whether you're navigating loss, supporting someone through a difficult time, or simply looking for better ways to care for your mental health, this conversation offers actionable strategies that can help you become just that little bit better than yesterday.

LINKS 
Listen to the full chat with Stuart here
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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How Radio Star Robin Bailey Kept Going Through Unimaginable Grief - Twice
Why Winning Doesn’t Always Make You Happy with Ben Crowe
The Skills of Being Happier, with Happiness Researcher and Expert Declan Edwards

In this episode of Better Than Yesterday, Osher revisits one of his most powerful conversations, with sole survivor of the 1997 Thredbo landslide, Stuart Diver. After 65 hours trapped beneath the rubble and enduring the loss of his wife Sally, Stuart has spent decades learning not just how to survive trauma, but how to build a meaningful life beyond it.
Stuart explores three practical tools he uses to protect his mental health and cultivate ongoing resilience, including exercise, deliberately creating and preserving positive memories before life changes, and why giving yourself permission to move forward isn't a betrayal of the people or experiences you've lost.
Whether you're navigating loss, supporting someone through a difficult time, or simply looking for better ways to care for your mental health, this conversation offers actionable strategies that can help you become just that little bit better than yesterday.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to the full chat with Stuart <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/399-living-a-wonderful-life-after-living-through-disaster-with-stuart-diver">here</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Watch episodes of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
<li>Send a pic of what you're looking at to <a href="mailto:sendosheremail@gmail.com">sendosheremail@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
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<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/why-winning-doesn-t-always-make-you-happy-with-ben-crowe">Why Winning Doesn&rsquo;t Always Make You Happy with Ben Crowe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/the-skills-of-being-happier-with-happiness-researcher-and-expert-declan-edwards">The Skills of Being Happier, with Happiness Researcher and Expert Declan Edwards</a></li>
</ul>

Stuart Diver's Powerful Lessons on Surviving Trauma, Healing & Hope

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/1a8dad8d-a534-43ea-a663-b48000557af3/transcript

In this episode of Better Than Yesterday, Osher Günsberg sits down with life coach and author Jaemin Frazer for a thought-provoking conversation about insecurity, self-worth, identity and the stories we tell ourselves that shape our lives.

They explore Jaemin's remarkable journey from church pastor to sought-after coach, including how questioning long-held beliefs transformed the way he understands purpose, responsibility and personal freedom, and ultimately deconstructed everything he knew about his faith.

Jaemin discusses why he believes that insecurity isn't simply a lack of confidence, but the fear that our deepest doubts about ourselves might actually be true. Together, they unpack where those beliefs come from, why so many of us unknowingly sabotage our own happiness, and what it really takes to create lasting personal change.

Osher and Jaemin also discuss the hidden "secondary gains" that keep us stuck, why agency is one of the most powerful tools we have, how our childhood experiences shape adult behaviour, and what parents can do to help their children build genuine confidence.

Whether you're navigating self-doubt, feeling trapped by old patterns, or simply curious about challenging preconceived notions about yourself or your life, this episode offers practical insights that challenge conventional thinking and encourage a deeper understanding of yourself.

LINKS 
Jaemin's book 'Unhindered - The Seven Essential Practices for Overcoming Insecurity' is available now
Follow Jaemin(@jaeminfrazer) on Instagram
More info on The Insecurity Project
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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How to Communicate Better in Every Conversation with Jefferson Fisher
The New Leadership Playbook: Why Caring Workplaces Win with Graeme Cowan
How Social Media And Smartphones Are Rewiring Our Brains with Dr. Mark Williams

In this episode of Better Than Yesterday, Osher G&uuml;nsberg sits down with life coach and author Jaemin Frazer for a thought-provoking conversation about insecurity, self-worth, identity and the stories we tell ourselves that shape our lives.
They explore Jaemin's remarkable journey from church pastor to sought-after coach, including how questioning long-held beliefs transformed the way he understands purpose, responsibility and personal freedom, and ultimately deconstructed everything he knew about his faith.
Jaemin discusses why he believes that insecurity isn't simply a lack of confidence, but the fear that our deepest doubts about ourselves might actually be true. Together, they unpack where those beliefs come from, why so many of us unknowingly sabotage our own happiness, and what it really takes to create lasting personal change.
Osher and Jaemin also discuss the hidden "secondary gains" that keep us stuck, why agency is one of the most powerful tools we have, how our childhood experiences shape adult behaviour, and what parents can do to help their children build genuine confidence.
Whether you're navigating self-doubt, feeling trapped by old patterns, or simply curious about challenging preconceived notions about yourself or your life, this episode offers practical insights that challenge conventional thinking and encourage a deeper understanding of yourself.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Jaemin's book 'Unhindered - The Seven Essential Practices for Overcoming Insecurity' is&nbsp;<a href="https://jaeminfrazer.com/products-1">available now</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Jaemin(@jaeminfrazer) on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jaeminfrazer/">Instagram</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">More info on <a href="https://jaeminfrazer.com/theip">The Insecurity Project</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch episodes of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">&nbsp;on YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
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