Rich Roll gets brutally honest about the seven-year financial nightmare that nearly broke him — cars repossessed, dumping rubbish behind grocery stores, racing against house foreclosure while being featured on the cover of Outside Magazine. 

This isn't the polished hero's journey. 

This is the real thing.

Part of a longer conversation form ep 484, today Rich and Osher discuss: 

The dissonance between public success and private collapse

How his wife Julie's "Jedi mindset" became their survival strategy

Why he treated the repo man with dignity instead of resentment

The neuroscience of movement as a pattern interrupt for stuck thinking

The single question that kept him from going back to his old job. 

If you've ever been one bad month away from losing everything or wondered whether your dream is worth the cost, this conversation will stay with you.

LINKS
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Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here

Rich Roll gets brutally honest about the seven-year financial nightmare that nearly broke him &mdash; cars repossessed, dumping rubbish behind grocery stores, racing against house foreclosure while being featured on the cover of Outside Magazine.&nbsp;
This isn't the polished hero's journey.&nbsp;
This is the real thing.
Part of a longer conversation form ep 484, today Rich and Osher discuss:&nbsp;
The dissonance between public success and private collapse
How his wife Julie's "Jedi mindset" became their survival strategy
Why he treated the repo man with dignity instead of resentment
The neuroscience of movement as a pattern interrupt for stuck thinking
The single question that kept him from going back to his old job.&nbsp;
If you've ever been one bad month away from losing everything or wondered whether your dream is worth the cost, this conversation will stay with you.
LINKS
<ul>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1147ba31-bde9-4505-b7f3-b596db84cd60">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ede9d2a8-42f8-4c38-b72a-14160d47aa02">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?"&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="47a2bed3-8ea9-412e-9a5f-cbb289cc1676">here</a></li>
</ul>

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher Günsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it’s authentic conversations. Sometimes we’ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you’ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher G&uuml;nsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it&rsquo;s authentic conversations. Sometimes we&rsquo;ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you&rsquo;ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

Helping you make today better than yesterday since 2013.

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What does it take to stay on your path when everything's falling apart?

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What does it actually mean to live a good life in a world that feels increasingly complex, divided, and emotionally charged? 

In this conversation, I speak with world-renowned moral philosopher and professor of bioethics Peter Singer to unpack some of the hardest questions of our time—from the ethics of global conflict and public discourse, to why we ignore suffering we could prevent, and what we really owe one another. 

We explore the tension between outrage and empathy, the psychology behind why we cling to certain beliefs even when faced with evidence, and how identity can quietly shape (and limit) our thinking. Peter also shares the personal story of how he radically changed his own views, and why being willing to revise your beliefs isn’t just intellectual humility… it’s a moral responsibility. 

And Peter explains how to make donations to charity have the greatest impact in 2026. 
 

LINKS 
More info on The Life You Can Save’s work 
Grab Peter’s book ‘The Life You Can Save’ for free 
Listen to Peter’s podcast ‘Lives Well Lived’ 
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter 
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube 
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube 
Get tickets for our next Story Club show 
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here 
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

What does it&nbsp;actually mean&nbsp;to live a good life in a world that feels increasingly complex, divided, and emotionally charged?&nbsp;
In this conversation,&nbsp;I speak&nbsp;with world-renowned moral philosopher&nbsp;and&nbsp;professor of bioethics&nbsp;Peter Singer&nbsp;to unpack some of the hardest questions of our time&mdash;from the ethics of global conflict and public discourse, to why we ignore suffering we could prevent, and what we&nbsp;really&nbsp;owe one another.&nbsp;
We&nbsp;explore the tension between outrage and empathy, the psychology behind why we cling to&nbsp;certain&nbsp;beliefs even when faced with evidence, and how identity can quietly shape&nbsp;(and limit)&nbsp;our thinking. Peter also shares the personal story of how he radically changed his own views, and why being willing to revise your beliefs&nbsp;isn&rsquo;t&nbsp;just intellectual humility&hellip;&nbsp;it&rsquo;s&nbsp;a moral responsibility.&nbsp;
And Peter explains how to make donations to charity have the greatest impact in 2026.&nbsp; &nbsp;
LINKS&nbsp;
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Motivated Reasoning: Why We Believe What We Want with Peter Singer 

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In this episode, I'm joined again by the brilliantly fearless comedian Daniel Sloss.

We take a deep dive into a wide range of topics, including the realities of fatherhood, the dark side of anonymity on the internet, and the crucial distinction between kindness and weakness. Daniel shares his experiences navigating the emotional rollercoaster of going from performing for thousands of adoring fans to the daily grind of parenting young children.

We also explore how the line of what's acceptable in comedy is constantly shifting, the challenges of being a "sexist feminist", and the importance of self-compassion. Daniel reveals how embracing his flaws through parody on stage has helped him become more humble in real life.

And based on his new comedy show, we also discuss the bitterness that can creep in when comparing oneself to others and how focusing on what truly matters, like the love of family, can bring genuine happiness.

LINKS
More info on Daniel's 'Bitter' tour: danielsloss.com
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com

In this episode, I'm joined again by the brilliantly fearless comedian Daniel Sloss.
We take a deep dive&nbsp;into a wide range of topics, including the realities of fatherhood, the dark side of anonymity on the internet, and the crucial distinction between kindness and weakness. Daniel shares his experiences navigating the emotional rollercoaster of going from performing for thousands of adoring fans to the daily grind of parenting young children.
We also explore how the line of what's acceptable in comedy is constantly shifting, the challenges of being a "sexist feminist", and the importance of self-compassion. Daniel reveals how embracing his flaws through parody on stage has helped him become more humble in real life.
And based on his new comedy show, we also discuss the bitterness that can creep in when comparing oneself to others and how focusing on what truly matters, like the love of family, can bring genuine happiness.
LINKS
<ul>
<li>More info on Daniel's 'Bitter' tour: <a href="https://danielsloss.com/tour/">danielsloss.com</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday&nbsp;<a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1147ba31-bde9-4505-b7f3-b596db84cd60">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ede9d2a8-42f8-4c38-b72a-14160d47aa02">Get tickets&nbsp;</a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?"&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="47a2bed3-8ea9-412e-9a5f-cbb289cc1676">here</a></li>
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Daniel Sloss Gets Brutally Honest About Fatherhood and Becoming Bitter

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Broden Kelly is best known as one of the members of comedy team Aunty Donna. But he's also a mad footy fan who started a podcast called The Footy with Broden Kelly.

With the footy season kicking off in Australia, I thought it would be a good time to look back on my chat with Broden from a few years ago, where we discussed the power of sport, particularly AFL, to unite people in cheering for a common goal. In a world that often lacks connection, sport can provide both social connection and physical movement.

If you're not currently barracking for a team, I'm going to try my best to convince you it's a good idea to start. And if you are already following a team, I'll give you some reasons why it's a good thing (even if other people are telling you otherwise).

LINKS
Listen to the full interview with Broden here
Check out The Footy with Broden Kelly podcast
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com

Broden Kelly is best known as one of the members of comedy team Aunty Donna. But he's also a mad footy fan who started a podcast called The Footy with Broden Kelly.
With the footy season kicking off in Australia, I thought it would be a good time to look back on my chat with Broden from a few years ago, where we discussed the power of sport, particularly AFL, to unite people in cheering for a common goal. In a world that often lacks connection, sport can provide both social connection and physical movement.
If you're not currently barracking for a team, I'm going to try my best to convince you it's a good idea to start. And if you are already following a team, I'll give you some reasons why it's a good thing (even if other people are telling you otherwise).
LINKS
<ul>
<li>Listen to the full interview with Broden <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/492-how-changing-intention-of-action-changed-a-career-with-broden-kelly-from-aunty-donna">here</a></li>
<li>Check out <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/CRDOR9576461777">The Footy with Broden Kelly</a> podcast</li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1147ba31-bde9-4505-b7f3-b596db84cd60">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ede9d2a8-42f8-4c38-b72a-14160d47aa02">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?"&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="47a2bed3-8ea9-412e-9a5f-cbb289cc1676">here</a></li>
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</ul>

Connection and Community Through Sport with Broden Kelly

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