Rich Roll gets brutally honest about the seven-year financial nightmare that nearly broke him — cars repossessed, dumping rubbish behind grocery stores, racing against house foreclosure while being featured on the cover of Outside Magazine. 

This isn't the polished hero's journey. 

This is the real thing.

Part of a longer conversation form ep 484, today Rich and Osher discuss: 

The dissonance between public success and private collapse

How his wife Julie's "Jedi mindset" became their survival strategy

Why he treated the repo man with dignity instead of resentment

The neuroscience of movement as a pattern interrupt for stuck thinking

The single question that kept him from going back to his old job. 

If you've ever been one bad month away from losing everything or wondered whether your dream is worth the cost, this conversation will stay with you.

LINKS
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here

Rich Roll gets brutally honest about the seven-year financial nightmare that nearly broke him &mdash; cars repossessed, dumping rubbish behind grocery stores, racing against house foreclosure while being featured on the cover of Outside Magazine.&nbsp;
This isn't the polished hero's journey.&nbsp;
This is the real thing.
Part of a longer conversation form ep 484, today Rich and Osher discuss:&nbsp;
The dissonance between public success and private collapse
How his wife Julie's "Jedi mindset" became their survival strategy
Why he treated the repo man with dignity instead of resentment
The neuroscience of movement as a pattern interrupt for stuck thinking
The single question that kept him from going back to his old job.&nbsp;
If you've ever been one bad month away from losing everything or wondered whether your dream is worth the cost, this conversation will stay with you.
LINKS
<ul>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1147ba31-bde9-4505-b7f3-b596db84cd60">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ede9d2a8-42f8-4c38-b72a-14160d47aa02">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?"&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="47a2bed3-8ea9-412e-9a5f-cbb289cc1676">here</a></li>
</ul>

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher Günsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it’s authentic conversations. Sometimes we’ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you’ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher G&uuml;nsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it&rsquo;s authentic conversations. Sometimes we&rsquo;ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you&rsquo;ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

Helping you make today better than yesterday since 2013.

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Günsberg

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Gunsberg

What does it take to stay on your path when everything's falling apart?

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/b054a0ce-c0cb-448a-8175-b415015cd507/transcript

How do you build confidence when the voice in your head keeps telling you that you’re not good enough?

In this episode, Osher Gunsberg is joined by performance psychologist and mental performance coach Dr Cindra Kamphoff, author of 'The Confidence Habit' and executive performance coach to some of the world's most successful athletes, to explore why even highly successful people can struggle with self-doubt, harsh self-talk and the fear of making mistakes.

Cindra has worked with NFL players and members of the U.S. track and field team, helping them develop the mental skills to perform under pressure. But the lessons she shares aren't just for athletes—they're for anyone who has ever questioned themselves, replayed a mistake or felt like they should be doing better.

Cindra explores the difference between our “inner critic” and our “inner coach”, and how learning to recognise and challenge negative thoughts can fundamentally change the way we see ourselves. She also shares practical tools for dealing with self-doubt, including her “truth meter” and three questions designed to help determine whether the stories we tell ourselves are actually true. She also explains why confidence isn't something you're simply born with, but a skill that can be developed, and how to recover from mistakes without allowing them to define your next performance, using her powerful “learn, burn, return” approach.

From changing negative self-talk to letting go of past failures and learning to trust yourself, this is a practical conversation about turning self-doubt into self-belief and developing the confidence to move forward - even when you don't feel confident.

LINKS 
Get 'The Confidence Habit' and bonus resources here
Follow (@cindrakamphoff) on Instagram
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest books here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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How do you build confidence when the voice in your head keeps telling you that you&rsquo;re not good enough?
In this episode, Osher Gunsberg is joined by performance psychologist and mental performance coach Dr Cindra Kamphoff, author of 'The Confidence Habit' and executive performance coach to some of the world's most successful athletes, to explore why even highly successful people can struggle with self-doubt, harsh self-talk and the fear of making mistakes.
Cindra has worked with NFL players and members of the U.S. track and field team, helping them develop the mental skills to perform under pressure. But the lessons she shares aren't just for athletes&mdash;they're for anyone who has ever questioned themselves, replayed a mistake or felt like they should be doing better.
Cindra explores the difference between our &ldquo;inner critic&rdquo; and our &ldquo;inner coach&rdquo;, and how learning to recognise and challenge negative thoughts can fundamentally change the way we see ourselves. She also shares practical tools for dealing with self-doubt, including her &ldquo;truth meter&rdquo; and three questions designed to help determine whether the stories we tell ourselves are actually true. She also explains why confidence isn't something you're simply born with, but a skill that can be developed, and how to recover from mistakes without allowing them to define your next performance, using her powerful &ldquo;learn, burn, return&rdquo; approach.
From changing negative self-talk to letting go of past failures and learning to trust yourself, this is a practical conversation about turning self-doubt into self-belief and developing the confidence to move forward - even when you don't feel confident.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Get 'The Confidence Habit' and bonus resources <a href="https://www.confidencetools.com">here</a></li>
<li>Follow (@cindrakamphoff) on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/cindrakamphoff">Instagram</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest books <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
<li>Send a pic of what you're looking at to <a href="mailto:sendosheremail@gmail.com">sendosheremail@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/why-winning-doesn-t-always-make-you-happy-with-ben-crowe">Why Winning Doesn&rsquo;t Always Make You Happy with Ben Crowe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/former-pro-surfer-cooper-chapman-on-the-1-habit-that-can-transform-your-mental-health">Former Pro Surfer Cooper Chapman on the 1% Habit That Can Transform Your Mental Health</a></li>
<li><a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/the-mindset-behind-daniel-macphersons-transformation-for-latest-film-beast">The Mindset Behind Daniel MacPherson's Transformation for latest film 'Beast'</a></li>
</ul>

How to Build Unshakeable Confidence and Silence Your Inner Critic with Dr Cindra Kamphoff

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/ea306ac4-bb0b-444c-ae9a-b4b90051b431/transcript

What would you do if the lights suddenly went out and stayed out not for an hour, but for days? Your phone is down to 5% because you've been on TikTok and who knows where the torch is?

Watching what's been happening in Tibet these last few days has been truly harrowing, and got me reflecting on one of the most powerful conversations I've ever had on this podcast - a conversation with disaster planner Lucy Easthope.

Lucy has spent more than 20 years preparing governments and communities for some of the worst events imaginable — from floods and fires to bombings, plane crashes and major infrastructure failures. Her message is surprisingly simple: we need to prepare for “when”, not “if” disaster happens.

In this conversation, Lucy explains why being prepared doesn't mean living in fear, and how a little planning can actually make us feel more calm and resilient. She shares what families can learn from disaster planning, why Australian communities have developed a stronger culture of preparedness, and why we should be having more honest conversations with our children about risk.

Lucy also challenges one of our most instinctive responses to disaster: sending 'stuff'. After a crisis, our desire to help is powerful, but donated goods can sometimes become more of a hindrance than a help. Lucy explains why cash is often the most useful donation and how organised charities can put resources where they're needed most.

And then there's panic - despite what movies often show, research suggests people caught in disasters frequently behave responsibly and look after one another. Lucy explains what actually causes panic — and why good information and sensible planning can make such a difference.

Be sure to check out my full conversation with Lucy - the link is below.

LINKS 
Listen to the full episode with Lucy here
Follow Lucy (@whenthedustsettleslucy) on Instagram
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at  Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

What would you do if the lights suddenly went out and stayed out not for an hour, but for days? Your phone is down to 5% because you've been on TikTok and who knows where the torch is?
Watching what's been happening in Tibet these last few days has been truly harrowing, and got me reflecting on one of the most powerful conversations I've ever had on this podcast - a conversation with disaster planner Lucy Easthope.
Lucy has spent more than 20 years preparing governments and communities for some of the worst events imaginable &mdash; from floods and fires to bombings, plane crashes and major infrastructure failures. Her message is surprisingly simple: we need to prepare for&nbsp;&ldquo;when&rdquo;, not &ldquo;if&rdquo; disaster happens.
In this conversation, Lucy explains why being prepared doesn't mean living in fear, and how a little planning can actually make us feel more calm and resilient. She shares what families can learn from disaster planning, why Australian communities have developed a stronger culture of preparedness, and why we should be having more honest conversations with our children about risk.
Lucy also challenges one of our most instinctive responses to disaster: sending 'stuff'. After a crisis, our desire to help is powerful, but donated goods can sometimes become more of a hindrance than a help. Lucy explains why&nbsp;cash is often the most useful donation and how organised charities can put resources where they're needed most.
And then there's panic - despite what movies often show, research suggests people caught in disasters frequently behave responsibly and look after one another. Lucy explains what actually causes panic &mdash; and why good information and sensible planning can make such a difference.
Be sure to check out my full conversation with Lucy - the link is below.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Listen to the full episode with Lucy <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/440-how-planning-for-disaster-can-make-your-day-more-wonderful-with-professor-lucy-easthopee">here</a></li>
<li>Follow Lucy (@whenthedustsettleslucy) on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/whenthedustsettleslucy">Instagram</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at &nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
<li>Send a pic of what you're looking at to <a href="mailto:sendosheremail@gmail.com">sendosheremail@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

'Prepare for When, Not If': How to Be Ready for Disaster with Lucy Easthope

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/f1f26729-8aeb-4d49-bd7d-b4b900247771/transcript

What happens when the version of yourself you created to succeed starts getting in the way of actually being yourself?

In this episode, broadcaster and author Christian O’Connell opens up to Osher Gunsberg about the darker side of the career he built around conversation and connection. Christian reflects on the radio persona he developed early in his career, his obsession with having the funniest show on air, and the moment that carefully constructed identity began to fall apart. In his 40s, he started having severe panic attacks in the one place he had always felt the most comfortable: the radio studio. Eventually, he sought therapy for the first time and discovered that confronting what was happening beneath the surface could change everything. He also packed up and moved his family halfway around the world from England to Australia, sparking initial backlash from radio listeners.

This conversation explores vulnerability, self-discovery and authentic human connection, including Christian's unconventional experience of physically releasing emotions during a therapy session. Christian also shares his 'WAVES' framework for better conversations, and explains why becoming less defensive, more curious and more present can transform the way we communicate with partners, children, colleagues and ourselves. There are practical tools too, including Christian's experience with breathwork and a simple breathing technique that he uses when he feels anxiety beginning to rise.

In one of the episode's most moving moments, Christian recalls how a listener named Pete sharing his bowel cancer experience on air led to a 600% rise in the return of bowel screening kits. And Christian reveals that Pete's final message became a guiding principle: “Keep up the humour, don't forget the human.”

As social media and AI increasingly changing the way we communicate, this conversation is a reminder that the things that make us human — curiosity, vulnerability, humour, presence and genuine connection — may be more important than ever.

LINKS 
Christian's book 'Unscript: The Radical Act of Being Yourself' is available now
Follow (@mrchristianoconnell) on Instagram
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest books here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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What happens when the version of yourself you created to succeed starts getting in the way of actually being yourself?
In this episode, broadcaster and author Christian O&rsquo;Connell opens up to Osher Gunsberg about the darker side of the career he built around conversation and connection. Christian reflects on the radio persona he developed early in his career, his obsession with having the funniest show on air, and the moment that carefully constructed identity began to fall apart. In his 40s, he started having severe panic attacks in the one place he had always felt the most comfortable: the radio studio. Eventually, he sought therapy for the first time and discovered that confronting what was happening beneath the surface could change everything. He also packed up and moved his family halfway around the world from England to Australia, sparking initial backlash from radio listeners.
This conversation explores vulnerability, self-discovery and authentic human connection, including Christian's unconventional experience of physically releasing emotions during a therapy session. Christian also shares his 'WAVES' framework for better conversations, and explains why becoming less defensive, more curious and more present can transform the way we communicate with partners, children, colleagues and ourselves. There are practical tools too, including Christian's experience with breathwork and a simple breathing technique that he uses when he feels anxiety beginning to rise.
In one of the episode's most moving moments, Christian recalls how a listener named Pete sharing his bowel cancer experience on air led to a 600% rise in the return of bowel screening kits. And Christian reveals that Pete's final message became a guiding principle: &ldquo;Keep up the humour, don't forget the human.&rdquo;
As social media and AI increasingly changing the way we communicate, this conversation is a reminder that the things that make us human &mdash; curiosity, vulnerability, humour, presence and genuine connection &mdash; may be more important than ever.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Christian's book 'Unscript: The Radical Act of Being Yourself' is <a href="https://christianoconnell.com/unscript/">available now</a></li>
<li>Follow (@mrchristianoconnell) on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mrchristianoconnell/">Instagram</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday <a href="https://makeitbetterthanyesterday.kit.com/7d9d18dcee">newsletter</a></li>
<li>Watch episodes of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa-1kXDagJXvgJa9MNymv4jnKkfdtCqBd">Better Than Yesterday on YouTube</a></li>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive"> on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li>Get Osher's latest books <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
<li>Send a pic of what you're looking at to <a href="mailto:sendosheremail@gmail.com">sendosheremail@gmail.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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</ul>

Broadcaster Christian O'Connell on panic attacks, living unscripted and making stronger connections

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/053e172b-5163-4bb0-8371-b4b80042e4bb/transcript

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