Society talks endlessly about having kids — but no one really talks about not having them. This week, Kelly and Chip open up about what it’s like to live a child-free life in a world that still expects everyone to follow the same script.

They talk about the pressure to become parents, the guilt and judgment that comes with choosing a different path, the surprising joys of child-free life, and the emotional nuance that no one ever acknowledges. From identity and purpose to societal expectations and double standards, this is a real, honest conversation about a lifestyle that’s more common than people admit — but rarely discussed.

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