High Brow, Mid Brow, Low Brow

Published Jun 8, 2023, 10:00 AM

Devin and Carolina return to the classic high brow, mid brow, low brow segment where they recommend everything from helpful habits to tv shows to sex tips to how not to talk about the year 2020 at parties. Plus , of course, recaps of the Vanderpump Rules reunion part 2 and The Ultimatum: Queer Love!

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Hello and welcome with your romance. This is Carolina Barlow and this is Devin Leary. Devin, where is your cat Cookie? And why is she not attacking you?

Finally, for the first time ever, he's asleep while you record, which he sorry, No, I think I think he's Cookie is a feminine name, and I want you to know that he's he's non binary. I think because they're non binary because a lot of people presume that they're female.

And I don't know.

I mean, I think he has kind of a male presence, as do I.

By the way, right now, he's sleeping. It's so cute.

He does this thing where he covers his eyes like he like digs his face into his paws because he wants to cover his eyes from the sunlight.

So that's really free.

Well, that'd be so funny if that's how I slept too, with my little hands over my eyes, like just getting cozy.

My hands. Why that he's.

Waving his or they're waving their white flag and peace has descended upon your household.

They're waving their white flag and their pride flag. I think, how has your week been?

Devin? Okay, let's just go into the.

Okay, okay, sorry, we don't know. I mean, can you kick it off then?

Okay, So this week we're going to do our famed and off forgot high brow, midbrow, low brow, many different options, afloat, but I'll kick it off with my highbrow.

Oh are we starting highbrow? We can start low brow if you want. You know what? You know what?

I am flexible okay, metaphorically, not literally, I'm a creaky old woman.

Literally, yes, let's start with highbrow.

So My Highbrow is a show that I just came upon this week and I cannot believe I haven't been watching it sooner. It's called Somebody Somewhere on Max I guess fucking Max.

I saw someone.

Post about it and said like they said that it got renewed for another season and that like that. They were like, this is a win because this is like a small comedy and these kind of shows don't get made a lot.

So I turned it on.

It's so gosh dang delightful and emotional and they're singing involved. It's like basically the dark, grounded, small comedy version of Glee in a weird way, and the characters are just like really unique and I love it.

I fucking love it.

I love Bridget Everett so much, and I think she's like a truly special person.

She's very like vulnerable. She reminds you of Julian Moore, where it's like the performances so like real and vulnerable and like you just can't look away when when she's on screen.

I remember seeing Jeff Hiller. He's the actor with the glasses, the tall kay actor. I remember seeing him when I was nineteen at perform at UCB, and he is such a funny performer. He was one of the funniest like UCB performers I'd ever seen. So it's just so cool when talent rises to the top, because it's so rare that the most talented person in the room gets the respect that they deserve. And so I think that that's something that's really exciting about that show, is that all this show deserves to be on air. It deserves the season three and it's getting one and it doesn't. It's not the Selena Gomez cooking show.

Oh my god. But I think that's really great. I Bridget Everett.

One of my favorite parts of Girls was when she played Marnie's makeup artist for her wedding and kept them talking about what a sweetheart's sleet of Gomez was. That was really she was an absolute sweetheart. She also posted a picture once on New Year's of her boobs in a robe and she was like, Happy New Year's to this robe that never stood a chance. Yeah, she's great. Okay, what's yours? Okay, my highbrow gosh. I mean, now that you said the TV show, I want to make a shout out to Happy Valley with Oh yeah, is.

Burutal but so good.

I love a female cop show, even though acab. But you know these aren't American police officers. These are in I believe Island. How's that for acting? Where's my Emmy for that Irish accent? I wanted to give a shout out to Signal Return if you google Signal Return Prints. It's a print shop in Detroit where I get some of my favorite artwork. I actually need to stop shopping there, and I put a pause on it because I own so many prints from there. Devin I once went sent Devvin Pictures and got a bunch of prints for her there. But it's just a nice place to quote unquote collect art when you don't have the money to collect art, but it is art and it does make your home both funny. There's funny prints, there's beautiful prints. They're all extremely well made though, and I just got a huge one that I honestly like. I could afford the print, but I could not. I can't afford framing it yet, so I'm going to frame it for my office, but I'm very excited. There was a print of barbecue chips. It was just a small print that but it was a beautiful illustration of barbecue chips. And so that's what I have my eye on right now. And it's just a small business that I love. And I sometimes I have a hard time with art because I like to understand art, if that makes sense, and a lot of times I don't. It's kind of like poetry in the New Yorker, like I'm reading it, I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it. And so I like art like beautiful photographs. I love void photographs of horses, photographs of dogs. That's the kind of art that I can really get behind because I understand it. And that is the same with signal or turn. They're prints that are I understand why you would want to hang them in your home. I understand the meaning of them, and yeah, it's it's my favorite place to collect art. I will say one of my favorite shops ever. Maybe my favorite shop, your favorite shop. I also did get Devin for her birthday last year two years ago, a miural of all the Real Housewives and what was that from?

There? No, that was from Etsy, but I love that. I have it hanging in my room. But that was primarily made for Devn Well.

I have been trying to make my own art recently, and it's really a good way to pass the time and to express what I think are like really deep emotions.

But I did post a collage that.

I made on Instagram and someone messaged me that it was brave of me to post that.

It's horrendously bad, So you know that's something I'm working through.

I have trouble with, like I can't stop adding things like I just like am like all right, and then like three more pictures of kittens, and then three more pictures of stars and.

It's a little bit kindergarten level.

But well, I haven't seen these clashes, And I don't know, do you not use Instagram anymore? I use it sporadically Okay, I get sucked in. In the words of Gia Tolantino, it's like hitting my forehead with a hammer over and over again. Sometimes, what do you do?

Delete the app or deactivate?

I delete the app off my phone for periods at a time and just check my messages once in a while. I want to say, though, that something I heard recently from someone who was painting. They said, I'm not that good, But why do we only have to do things if we're amazing at them?

Sorry?

Say that without seeing your clashes, because I want you to know. I'm not saying like, even though Devin's clashes look like I think they don't do them.

That's like, why if this makes me.

Feel good, If playing the piano makes me feel good, if playing baby chords on a guitar makes me feel good, I do neither. Why can I Why do I have to wait until I'm amazing at it? If painting and collajing makes me feel good and relaxed, it's like cooking. I'm not that good of a cook, but I love cooking.

Why would I not do that? Yeah?

I also tried playing tennis yesterday for about fifteen minutes.

Well, that's insane.

And no, but it was really fun and also like I was horrible at it, but you have to do it. You have to do these things with the right audience and the right people and with friends who won't judge you or be competitive, Like I can't. Being around competitive people is really triggering for me because I'm not competitive at all.

It is for me too. I'm just like, okay, this none of this actually matters. Okay.

It's like when I went to a friend had like a murder mystery birthday party, and like we got there and I was like, oh cool, Like we dress in like it's circus theme, like oh, we're like a slutty circus outfit. And then we get there and they're like giving out cards and they're like this is your character and this is you have to find out that.

I was like, wait, I don't feel like doing that.

I just want to talk to people and like maybe hook up with someone like I don't really care about like being method as like a fucking circus lion tamer, Like I don't care about this. And so then like I was just kind of hanging by the wayside aka smoking cigarettes outside, and then the people who the person who like figured out mystery. A grown adult was like, yes, yes, I got it, and I'm like evacuate, Like what what does this do for you?

What? What's missing?

I I have that instinct, even when it's low grade competitiveness, like I told you would only take twenty minutes to get there. Yeah, I want to be like, no, I'm not engaging with that behavior.

Oh my god, I hate that so much. It's like or when someone's like when someone you know what I hate?

You know what I fucking hate?

And yes I was guilty of this in like high school and may maybe early twenties, when someone has to loudly prove that they know every lyric to the song, like the song comes on in the car or the bar or something, and someone's like pointedly being like, cause the remedy is that experience. It is a dangerous liaison sn and it's like, okay, I get it. You know every word? Like got it? It reminds you of like these girls in high school that memorize every word to fer Delicious and then they would like pointedly sing.

It at dances and stuff.

And I was like, I know, you guys sat with YouTube and memorize every lyric and anyone can do that.

Actually, anyone could do that. It was the Nicki minajiars were big for that too.

Yes, oh my god, the Monster Verse. Yeah, the white girls who knew the Monster Verse or really any Nikki song need to examine things.

Pencils down, pencils well, and you know who's one of them.

I think there's like a famous was it like Adele or Kelly Clarkson or someone like Taylor I think did.

The Monster Verse?

No?

Oh, I know that Taylor and Selina were really into that at the time. Which listen, worry what if I keep talking about tweena, I'm gonna get docs?

But what do you mean You know that they were really into that because they.

Were posting videos of themselves wrapping to starships.

Okay, well, I would like to see receipts on that, and you better provide them if you want to ever be accepted by Beth Jacob's Cohen Again.

I know friend of the Pod, Beth Jacobs Cohen is somewhere sharpening her knives listening to this. She's somewhere putting a mysterious white powder and an envelope and putting my address on it. Let's do midbrow this is tough because it's tough because when is midbrow?

But I actually think I nailed it. Okay, I'm really competitive. No, you're being competitive, and that's okay.

Fuck.

I wanted to do one, and now I realize, like it's actually offensive, so I can't do it.

I'm so concerned about what that could have been. Well, because I just started before this podcast.

I just started watching Shiny Happy People Dougger Family Secrets, and I wanted to do that as my high brow because it's really fucking good. But now I took my highbrow with something that I can't remember now, but so now, but to say it's mid, it's not mid, it's it's high, I would say mid.

No, it can't be mid.

It can't. It cannot be mid. The trauma of the Dougger family cannot be mid, like it is beyond.

I would say midbrow is.

Any Okay, I have my midbrow, and I'm using midbrow as a term in a way of like that is so mid basic base level.

Let's get rid of that. Not like mid brow, like, eh, this was fine. Mid to me is.

Any discussion of the era in time where we wore masks outside.

Do not ever bring that up to me. Do not ever talk to me recommendations.

What was no this is. This is a recommendation of what not to do. Do not bring up the era of time when people were still wearing masks outside, when when COVID was starting to go away. Okay, vaccine era, Okay, I'll hear about that when it first happened.

That's kind of interesting. It was a crisis in history, the era.

Of time where we accepted a life where we wore surgical masks outdoors.

I do not ever want to think about that again. I don't want to hear about that again. Nothing happened, Time melted into one. It was hell.

It was the worst possible scenario. The worst possible scenario is to accidentally see a photo in your featured iPhone photos of yourself in a surgical mask outdoors.

So miss I understand that, get rid of it, don't need it. Moving on.

There's a jacket that I wore during that period that when I'm going through my closet, I.

Have a physical reaction to it, like I'm like ughh.

Because it was such an awful time. It wasn't because we were wearing masks. It was because of the time period, the time period. I agree, it'd be so funny to come out now as an anti mask person and like, ah, kids need to see each other smile. Please take away masks in schools.

Okay.

I actually had a dream last night that I was hooking up with one of my ex boyfriends and that like we hadn't seen each other since COVID obviously because it's been years, and that he was like, I was like saying something about unvaccinated people, like making fun of them. That he was like, oh my god, I did not do that, and I was like, wait, what, I didn't get the vaccine, so that would.

Be of the anti vactor is a nightmare my mid brow and this is perfectly mid I think. Is a book that is one of those pop psychology books.

I love those. It's called Atomic Habits. I've downloaded that.

So I started it. I'm thirty percent the way through. And this is not the first time I recommended a book without finishing it, and I've come to regret that sometimes. For instance, when I recommended Whitney Cummings memoir and then after recommending it, I was almost done with it when she got to a chapter where she said that people are over medicated and that people.

Don't need to be on meds. Oh no exactly, And I was like, oh, I wish I could retract that recommendation.

But Atomic Habits has really helped me think about habits coolarly, it's number one on the iTunes bookstore or one of the like top books that's downloaded. But what I like about it is it talks about how people are have been convinced that they don't have willpower, when really it's your environment that tells you what to do. So if you live, you know, next to like only fast food places, you're more likely to eat fast food. It doesn't mean you have bad willpower. It means that nothing like good is available to you, you know, if you live near good restaurants but you can't afford them. Like again, it doesn't mean that you're not healthy. It means that like you don't have access to these things. And basically talks about like filling your home with like making your home a good environment to support healthy habits. And it also talks, which I thought was really interesting, about progress and how most people think of progress as like a completely math based just going up, up up, as soon as you do good things. And it's like, actually, progress stays lateral for a really long time, a like horizontal for a very long time, and then all of a sudden it goes off like and goes the other word. So you basically have to commit to doing things for a while without seeing results before you will get results, which really helps me because I'm very impatient. So there's a lot of insights that I really like from this book. It's comfortable. It's not one of those books that's like beating you up about not doing things, like, well, you have to do it this way if you want to see it done. It's more very practical, like, hey, maybe don't be on your phone in bed if you have trouble sleeping, don't even read in bed. Just make your bed a place to sleep. I can literally fall asleep with my phone in front of my face and like a music video playing, so that when I'm not going to.

Really take in but I do. He says.

One of the things, one of the rules he practices is one place, one purpose, even if you live in like my desk is in my room and my room is really small, I don't I shouldn't be sitting at my desk if I'm not working and I shouldn't work in bed. That is sort of what he's talking about. So I'm very much enjoying it. I'm reading it very slowly because I'm not kind of in the place where I'm very distracted easily.

And that's that's another thing.

He said, your phone is so distracting that it's hard to do one thing on it because there's so many things you can do on it.

Anyway, So I'm famous like that. There's so many things you can do on your phone.

Famously, you can do a lot on those little iPhones that people have. My modelings when I went through a breakup, said you need to get an iPhone and she was right, meaning like this will help you recover from your breakup.

And I was like, what, she was right, I to get rid of my BlackBerry. That's gonna help. And she was right, you did have a BlackBerry for so long. This is true.

Okay, low my favorite category, low low low, low, low brow.

This is gonna be an easy one for me.

Although I kind of have the feeling about this that I that I have, like every time I tweet something, I have the immediate thought like, wait, haven't I tweeted that exact same thing before.

It's really weird.

I don't know, it's just a mental thing that I guess is pretty unique about me.

But that's how I.

Feel about this low brow I'm like, have I recommended this before? But I recently turned on my TV a little bit too early for vander Pump Rules, and I happened to catch the tail end of Below Deck Sailing Yacht, and I thought, now I've seen below Deck, and now I've seen below Deck med but I have not yet seen Below Deck Sailing Yacht. So I gave it a look see and the first thing I see is two people making out hot and heavy in a hot tub, and I thought, I'm gonna need to be tuning.

In here.

Well, And so again, now I've gone back, and I'm so that was the current season, which is season four. Now I'm on, I've caught all the way up to season three. And the reason why this is what I've understood why it's so good.

It's actually an exploration of.

The capitalist system and oppression in a way. So the structure of the show is there's the crew that works below deck, and then there's the rich people who charter the yacht, and.

The first half of the episode.

Actually, I would say the first seventy five percent of the episode is the blo low deck crew working soberly and earnestly to serve these awful fucking rich people who do terrible things such as try a gourmet omelet and say I've had better food at a ballpark.

My complain that.

They were given buffalo wings at the beach, but they first of all requesting buffalo wings from like a Italian chef who is like a world class expert in fine foods, requesting buffalo wings, and then complaining that they had to put their buffalo wings bones back in the same bowl instead of having a separate bowl. Like that's like the kind of stuff they deal with on a daily basis. Also, an old woman who got spray tan all over the like sixty thousand dollars couch in the yacht and then lied about it and was like, I don't know what that is and I wasn't sitting there. They cut the footage of her sitting directly there and she's like, I was never there, that never happened.

I love pathological liars on reality TV. Is it could been a low brow for me, but it's a it's a huge umbrella under which many fall.

Under, which many take shelter.

So then after that part of the episode where you're just watching these people be like oppressed by being in service to these horrible rich people, then the charter ends and Captain Glenn, a lovely endearing man, says, Okay, that was like great, and here's like the tip, and now you have the night off before tomorrow's charter. And these people go absolutely like bananas for a night. Like they literally say like they're like I'm blacking out tonight. Who's blacking out today? Blacking out tonight? Like because they're just worked under it. It's like the worse the charter, the more fucked up they get because they just had to deal with that.

It's literally they all make out with each other.

They like one of the one of the chefs from one of the seasons actually said she was like, wow, night one was really girls gone wild because the girls were all making out with each other at one point. There there's these two girls who there's always romances every season, like they end up like having like trysts with each other. So one season there's these there's Ali and Danny, and they're both kind of like cooking up with JL and Gary and there's a night where they all get drunk and JL is like complaining about work and like just being really boring, and Danny's like, Okay, I want to have sex with you, and he's like okay, well, like I'm talking to Gary right now, and she's like okay, Ali, let's go, and she goes and has sex with Ali instead.

Wow. Amazing, wow wow. Literally it's like really giving me in high school. By the way. It's amazing. It's so good.

And they're like they're all making out with each other, they're all and they show it, they actually show it, like it's it's truly so fun. But it's also like the release. And also there's these people are all so good looking. Like in a way, I'm just like, this is just like voyeurism. Like getting to watch hot people make out in a hot tub is just like really fun and that's like what TV should be in all that ways. So I really recommend it. It's storytelling. I really, I have to say. It's women's stories. It's women's stories. It's women in stem it's women in yachting, by the way, it's women in yachting, which is a typically very male industry.

So check it out. Give it a look.

I actually am going to give that a look. I'm taking that recommendation to the bank.

I am going to watch that maybe even today. Yeah, do it.

Devin has not led me wrong. In fact, it took me a long time to, you know, to come to her like like little Oliver Twist and say please, sir, can I have some more? And she showed me bravo. She showed me Southern charms. She showed me things that became a part of my life. Part of my life took over my life. My low brow and I say lowbrow because it's sexual, and so it's not really about intellect. It's more about pure sex, which is something that I've talked to people about and I've talked to a few women about, and I've heard people have the same experience. But my lowbrow is pushing on your block during sex, like pressing on your bladder with your hand. Devin looks like she's about to cry. She looks so disgusted.

It's upsetting. Why are you saying these.

Words, because it's something that if people are struggling having an orgasm, it is really helpful because you are pressing down on basically your g spot, which is under your bladder, and the pressure under it will help you reach an orgasm faster. I really do believe that this is like kind of sometimes the only way I can finish. And I'm saying this because it feels like a secret. I have so want to I want to wave that flag.

That's interesting. How did you find that out? I honestly can't remember.

I think I just instinctually did it once and then was like, oh, this is an orgasm.

Wait, where's your bladder on your stomach?

It's your bladder's next to your heart. Oh, it goes up into your throat. Your bladder is like on your basically like right above your vagina.

Interesting, Okay, this is like.

When Devin had her mom write her out of health class so she didn't have to watch the Miracle of Life. Like she's slowly moving off the zoom camera.

I shouldn't have had to watch it, and I didn't want to have to watch it, and I will never regret that.

I think that we should recap two shows that mean a lot to us.

Devin, how do you feel about the ultimatum?

The ultimatum Queer Love is quite Frankly, all I can think about right now.

All I can think about is.

Mal and Yoli and whether they will end up together, and also that I need Xander to leave Vanessa. So I want I want Xander to leave Vanessa, but I also want Yoli to stay with Mal, and Xander's way of leaving Vanessa would be with Yoli.

So it's just so complicated.

It's interesting because the straight season of the Ultimatum was so toxic. It actually at times felt like bad to be watching. And as you know, like I watched that feeling ninety Day Fiance, Single Life, like I'm I'm watching feeling was probably how you felt. I'm watching shiny, happy people, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess. I did watch Nineteen Kids in Counting at one point and john and Kate plus eight, and I actively defended one time when I was like in middle school, I was watching Johnny Kate plus A and my mom was like, ew, this woman, Kate Goslin is like a bad mother, and I go, no, she's not. The kids are really happy, like what anyway? So that's me And yet I still found Ultimatum straight season like disturbing. It was just like these couples who hate each other and they like just wanted to have sex with other people, and then like some of them stayed together anyway, and there was like abusive dynamics and just like fucking weird shit trauma ultimatum, queer love is so it's almost like too therapized.

They communicate so.

Well, all of these couples and every single couple, Like I start out being like, Okay, this person I hate and this person I love, and then by the end I'm like, Okay, actually I love all of them, and I want them all to be happy. That being said, I don't want Vanessa to be happy. She is the villain and she is fucking terrible and I cannot stand her and she's just like fake and weird and full of shit.

And then everybody else, like Tiff.

I had a tough time at first with Tiff, and then Tiff freaked out because her trial marriage partner Sam, Oh my god, I knocked my computer with my foot. Her trial marriage partner Sam didn't act like in love enough with her dog, and Tiff like freaked out and she's like, oh, you barely even looked at my dog. You barely even look at her and I was like, that is me with Cookie, Like honestly, I have a picture of Cookie on my dating app profile and one and it's like me on the couch with Cookie and one guy message and was like, Cookie's gonna have to make room for me, or your cat's gonna have to make room for me.

And I was like, talk to me that way, and don't you animal that way?

Walk right off this app and out off the fuck the ocean, into the ocean, off the pirate ship fucking board thing whatever that thing is called off.

The plank the shipboard, so you can walk off the pirate ship board for all I care.

I think Also, it's interesting Assie is too traumatized for this show, and I've never seen a worst communicator, like even in this show, where like the communication is amazing and they're all supportive of each other, and like I think they all do actually deeply love and care about each other. Ossi is so conflict averse it's like scary, and it's like.

Clearly rooted in trauma.

And then I think Lexi I really relate to basically just being obsessed with the fact that her partner is not sure about marrying her.

That's something I've like struggled with because I have this thing of like, okay, well if you're not sure, then like fuck you.

And it's like, actually, some people just move lower and are more anxious and have different attachment styles and it's not as easy for them to just say, like I'm sure I want to be married to this one person forever.

So that's kind of an interesting dynamic overall.

I've learned so much as opposed to Ultimatum straight season, where I actually unlearned, like my brain melted. I think in this season, I'm like learning how dynamics can improve and how you can like listen to someone and not take things personally.

And a lot on this podcast what listen and not take things personally?

Yeah, well maybe you should watch The Queer Love Ultimatum.

And then I think I missed lessons.

I think I may have to I of course, and I know, Devin, you are two watching a vander Pump Rules.

We just finished.

There's only one episode left, which I've decided not to face.

I've decided to be in denial about that. It's devastating.

They I just watched the part two of the reunion. James Kennedy is clearly doing cocaine on this show. He says that he gets stressed out and then has to pee, which I actually had to have pointed out by a coworker. They said, James is doing cocaine, and I thought, oh my gosh, why does it take me so long to pick up on things like this, But yes, he probably is. Tom Sanderbal called Ariyan a mother effer, motherfucker, mother effort, and you think, how can Lisa defend these people?

She looks to him and goes, did you just call her motherfucker?

And you're like, Lisa, yes he did. This is your business partner. This is who you are defending. Even James, who like probably would you know, like take care of Lisa's Jiggy's or all of the little animals she has that look barely alive. Even he said, you're defending them too much. Tom Schwartz, in his attempts to be funny, which is not going well, which are failing. Those attempts are failing, says as soon as Chakall comes out, he says, I'm gonna take a xanax and he takes out a pill bottle and he's like and it's like, what are you doing? And then the best part so embarrassing. Tom Sandaval is like that is Schwartz's medication. He does not have to tell you anything about it.

You're like Sandoval, someone's like he took it out and threw it across the room.

Like also, it's so crazy.

I'm done with Lisa like making her little snide comments about the boys, like someone posted their like amazing Lisa's face she makes when Tom Schwartz asks if he's a bad guy or whatever, and it's like, Okay, she can make her faces in her comments.

Then get off the wrong side of history.

Then switch sides, then give up on them, like you're defending these men and we're not gonna like applaud your little facial expressions. It's like, choose a side, and choose the right one.

How about please please?

Talking of the right and wrong sides, there was a scene that I don't know why Bravo decided not to include in the UH season finale, but it was of Sandoval when he first visits Raquel after the affair is exposed, and he talks about how he went by the house and there was a bunch of cars in front of Ariana's house and he was like so she's having a bunch of people over, which is like, and he goes, which is hard because like she wouldn't even let me have my birthday party there.

And he thinks, how person get worse? How a person can't get worse?

A person cannot get worse, Like it's really unfathomable, and like he cannot get worse, and Raquel cannot get human. Raquel has no expression. She's watchually. It's fascinating.

Really, it's watching a Yankee candle try to have emotion exactly.

It's like looks pretty, probably smells good, but does not have a cognitive ability.

It's not a sentient being. I don't know. Some people are.

Like she's so stupid that like the that it uses all of her cognitive strength to focus on like the story that she has to keep straight.

But I don't know.

It's like we have seen her cry on the show only when she's drunk, and only about being an occupational therapist.

I don't know.

I think there's a sociopathy element. I think as I think you're right because also she's like been trying to get on the show for years. There's pictures of her going to like events with like Kylie Jenner, like she's just been trying to get famous for years, and she had like a traumatizing childhood with Grandma Buttons being obsessed with James's penis size. And I think I think things were tough nature versus nurture. We don't know, but whatever it was, it led to her in a trailer watching Sena cry about having a restraining order filed against her and losing one of her closest friends and Raquela having no emotion and then just saying I always wondered if I should have written her a letter.

Yeah, it's pretty wild.

And I like when she talks to Sandoval and she's like, I think maybe Ariana like didn't know you were unhappy because you didn't break up with her. It's like, wow, that is called two plus two equals four, sweetheart. And he actually don't even need to say it out loud.

It's so obvious.

It's almost like Trump, where like trying to do comedy about Trump, where it's like, Okay, this person's such a fucking insane idiot that it's like not even funny to make fun of them. It's not like George Bush, where it's like he thinks he's an upstanding individual.

Same with Tom and Raquel. It's like, all right, it's too easy now, Like you have.

A villain haircut and white nail polish and villain outfit, standing outside smoking, and she's like saying, nothing is sitting on the pavement, Like it's like you're just making it too easy to fucking hate you that I almost don't enjoy hating you anymore.

The real miracle, the real top dog, is Ali, of course, who comes out in a great Barbie inspired outfit hot pink. I love to see it, and she literally looks like she's presenting. She looks so normal it's jarring. The most concerning part of Ali is that she's on the show, and true she's I went so poised. We don't even know what to do with her quite when she came, I was a little upset that we didn't talk about how she basically broke the case. She was the first person to say, I thought it was weird seeing Raquel and sandalbal dance together at one am at the abbey, But that's okay. We don't need a special metal for someone pointing out the obvious.

I guess.

But she is really the reigning Champ. She's calling James on his bullshit. She got a man into therapy, which is not ulous miraculous actually, and I'm I really hope to see more of her. I need to learn more about how to be as balanced. I also did try to book an astrology reading with her, and her schedule is it seems that there are no pointments available, which made me upset because I was like, there's so many crazy people who are probably just trying to talk to her about scandabal when I actually want to see her work. I want to know more about myself.

Really, I do too. I want to know it all all about myself.

But actually I have to stop knowing so much about myself, according to my therapist.

Anyway, we will definitely keep in touch about the finale.

Of both The Ultimatum and Vanner Pump Rules coming up this week. Honestly, thank god, I need stuff like this right now, like the Cruel Summer season two premiere, vander Pump Rules finale and Ultimatum finale and reunion.

That's what's keeping me going. Plus my medication. Yeah you can say I'll be taken care of plus max dosage of lexapro. Yeah. On that note, I love you, Devin, love you Carol.

I won't suits so romantic.

Leave Babee if don't leave me, Hagen. I want true

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