What a miserable week for William Lawson, a dream shattered. As the news officially was released, as you well know, overnight Lawson to racing Bullsonoda to the top team. Of course, Christen Hornet called it the sporting decision and they had a duty of care to protect and develop laws in the BBC formula. And correspondent Andrew Binson's back, whether it's Andrew morning to you morning, this has been a you know, as you would understand, a mess of story in this part of the world. How it seems to me to be global as well. Has it been a big deal where you are?

What a miserable week for William Lawson, a dream shattered. As the news officially was released, as you well know, overnight Lawson to racing Bullsonoda to the top team. Of course, Christen Hornet called it the sporting decision and they had a duty of care to protect and develop laws in the BBC formula. And correspondent Andrew Binson's back, whether it's Andrew morning to you morning, this has been a you know, as you would understand, a mess of story in this part of the world. How it seems to me to be global as well. Has it been a big deal where you are?

Yeah, pretty massive everywhere. Actually, it's quite an extraordinary turn of events, doesn't it. Give a guy a chance three months ago, give him two races, and then flick him for the guy you thought wasn't good enough when you gave him the drive in the first place. So I think most of them one is like what.

Yeah, pretty massive everywhere. Actually, it's quite an extraordinary turn of events, doesn't it. Give a guy a chance three months ago, give him two races, and then flick him for the guy you thought wasn't good enough when you gave him the drive in the first place. So I think most of them one is like what.

Yeah, when you put it like that, they almost seem a nipped, are they?

Yeah, when you put it like that, they almost seem a nipped, are they?

Well it's not for me to say, is it, But certainly lots of people are asking serious questions about this. It goes right back to well, even perhaps before, but certainly right back to last spring when Serge of Perez's performances were beginning to tail off again for the second year running, and yet Red Bull gave him a new two year contract at the end of twenty twenty six. Then he had a really bad season. They paid him off at the end of the year put Lawson in even though you know, he's only done eleven Grand Prix before he started this season, and Sonoda, who was his teammates at Racing Bulls or RB as it was called last year, had done four seasons. Now they were pretty evenly matched, but on most metrics, Snoda probably just about edged it against Lawson in their time together. But still they picked Lawson because they thought he was the guy with the best potential. They didn't trust Snoda in terms of mentality resilience going up against Max de Stappen in the senior team and two races in you know before Lawson's even driven on a track that he knows. You know, this weekend next weekend in Japan is the first track that he's been to before. Out of these races. At the start of the year, they've got rid of him. Now. Lawson obviously didn't have a very good start to the season, there's no question about that, but you really have to question if he was if he was the right guy in December should assume a bit more chats. Yeah.

Well it's not for me to say, is it, But certainly lots of people are asking serious questions about this. It goes right back to well, even perhaps before, but certainly right back to last spring when Serge of Perez's performances were beginning to tail off again for the second year running, and yet Red Bull gave him a new two year contract at the end of twenty twenty six. Then he had a really bad season. They paid him off at the end of the year put Lawson in even though you know, he's only done eleven Grand Prix before he started this season, and Sonoda, who was his teammates at Racing Bulls or RB as it was called last year, had done four seasons. Now they were pretty evenly matched, but on most metrics, Snoda probably just about edged it against Lawson in their time together. But still they picked Lawson because they thought he was the guy with the best potential. They didn't trust Snoda in terms of mentality resilience going up against Max de Stappen in the senior team and two races in you know before Lawson's even driven on a track that he knows. You know, this weekend next weekend in Japan is the first track that he's been to before. Out of these races. At the start of the year, they've got rid of him. Now. Lawson obviously didn't have a very good start to the season, there's no question about that, but you really have to question if he was if he was the right guy in December should assume a bit more chats. Yeah.

I note that helmet make this morning said it was a mistake and he hasn't handled it mentally, and that they couldn't have talked up as mental stability more at the time. This duty of care line that Horner's running this morning is for a really cutthroat team. Do we believe that? I mean, on one hand, you talk us about peerios, and you're right, they wanted to give them surety, to give them confidence that look good. And then the next thing, this second I can't work out what they're about.

I note that helmet make this morning said it was a mistake and he hasn't handled it mentally, and that they couldn't have talked up as mental stability more at the time. This duty of care line that Horner's running this morning is for a really cutthroat team. Do we believe that? I mean, on one hand, you talk us about peerios, and you're right, they wanted to give them surety, to give them confidence that look good. And then the next thing, this second I can't work out what they're about.

Well, I think it smacks a little bit of trying to dress it up as best they can. You know, this is not a duty of care, is it, by any stretch of the imagination getting rid of someone after two races. The duty of care is to give him chance to try and perform a bit better. Put your arm around his shoulder, talk to him about what's going wrong. I mean, from Lawson's point of view, Actually, I don't think this is all negative. You know, there are other drivers who Red Bull have rejected and have rebuilt their careers. Look at Alix Alban, who's not Williams and very well respected in One one, Pierre Gasly who's gone to Alpine earning lots of money as their kind of lead driver at the moment. So I think if Lawson deals with this with a positive mindset, he can go back to racing bulls. He can perform strongly. I think he probably needs to get out of the red bull driver fold as soon as he can. But if he performs strongly at racing bulls, he's got every chance of doing that and he could still have a long and successful Formula One career.

Well, I think it smacks a little bit of trying to dress it up as best they can. You know, this is not a duty of care, is it, by any stretch of the imagination getting rid of someone after two races. The duty of care is to give him chance to try and perform a bit better. Put your arm around his shoulder, talk to him about what's going wrong. I mean, from Lawson's point of view, Actually, I don't think this is all negative. You know, there are other drivers who Red Bull have rejected and have rebuilt their careers. Look at Alix Alban, who's not Williams and very well respected in One one, Pierre Gasly who's gone to Alpine earning lots of money as their kind of lead driver at the moment. So I think if Lawson deals with this with a positive mindset, he can go back to racing bulls. He can perform strongly. I think he probably needs to get out of the red bull driver fold as soon as he can. But if he performs strongly at racing bulls, he's got every chance of doing that and he could still have a long and successful Formula One career.

They're making a little bit of Thos mex for Stepans liked an Instagram post from Guido Vanderguarde saying that he was bullied out. The fact that mex has liked the post has been seen as Mechs being unhappy again. How much weight do you place on mex as unhappy and eventually will end up somewhere else.

They're making a little bit of Thos mex for Stepans liked an Instagram post from Guido Vanderguarde saying that he was bullied out. The fact that mex has liked the post has been seen as Mechs being unhappy again. How much weight do you place on mex as unhappy and eventually will end up somewhere else.

Well, it's very interesting that post because Vastapan is not the only Formula One driver who's liked it. So is Oscar Piastre, So is Niko Holkenberg. So has Pierre Ghasly. That's four out of twenty Formula One drivers or four out of the other nineteen, if you like, who have kind of what appears to be expressed their displeasure with the way Red Bull have behaved. I don't think we should presume what Verstappan thinks until we've spoken to him in a week's time in Japan. But I have heard on the grape vine. I mean, he was making it pretty clear at the weekend in China that he, you know, he didn't think it was the driver's fault in the second Red Bull. He was you know, he thinks the car is what's the problem is. You know, he thinks it's the fourth fastest car on the grid. So I think there are a lot of questions that need to be addressed at the team, not just about their drivers choices. You know, they've lost Adrian Nui, the you know, the design guru who's gone to ask the Martin They've not They've apparently lost competitiveness relatively over the over the winter. So what's going on there? And if the cars are this difficult to drive? We know that the Stappen's a genius. Is Sonoda going to do any better than laws. And these are all interesting questions.

Well, it's very interesting that post because Vastapan is not the only Formula One driver who's liked it. So is Oscar Piastre, So is Niko Holkenberg. So has Pierre Ghasly. That's four out of twenty Formula One drivers or four out of the other nineteen, if you like, who have kind of what appears to be expressed their displeasure with the way Red Bull have behaved. I don't think we should presume what Verstappan thinks until we've spoken to him in a week's time in Japan. But I have heard on the grape vine. I mean, he was making it pretty clear at the weekend in China that he, you know, he didn't think it was the driver's fault in the second Red Bull. He was you know, he thinks the car is what's the problem is. You know, he thinks it's the fourth fastest car on the grid. So I think there are a lot of questions that need to be addressed at the team, not just about their drivers choices. You know, they've lost Adrian Nui, the you know, the design guru who's gone to ask the Martin They've not They've apparently lost competitiveness relatively over the over the winter. So what's going on there? And if the cars are this difficult to drive? We know that the Stappen's a genius. Is Sonoda going to do any better than laws. And these are all interesting questions.

Yeah, exactly, I'm interested in Andrew and you're taking Liam from from the outside, and obviously we're obsessed about him. He's not. He's a likable guy. Yes, he's skilled, because he wouldn't be an IF one, But what's your view of him as a driver?

Yeah, exactly, I'm interested in Andrew and you're taking Liam from from the outside, and obviously we're obsessed about him. He's not. He's a likable guy. Yes, he's skilled, because he wouldn't be an IF one, But what's your view of him as a driver?

Well, until this, until this certain turn of events, he was he'd looked like a very decent Formula One driver, you know, he'd acquitted himself well, and those eleven Grand Prix spread over the two seats. The two previous seasons, he'd been aggressive and robust, you know, racing wheel to wheel with the likes of Fernando al on So last year and Perez, you know, not making any friends. But then from the one drivers aren't out to make friends. He seems like a very personable guy when you meet him. But to be honest with you, the last two races in Australia and China, he's looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He's looked like someone who was really struggling, couldn't get his head around why it wasn't working with the car quite how the car was so difficult It did look like he was struggling. I have to say, you know, you would catch glimpses of him while he was waiting to be interviewed on camera, for example, and he just looked, you know, it looked like it looked completely shell shocked. Things like that. But you know, I'm sure he'll be able to bounce back from this. Certainly people hope so. But he needs to think about it positively. It's very hard to think about that now. You can see how he must be thinking. All his dreams have been shattered. But as long as he thinks positively, thinks right, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to prove them wrong. He can still he can still maintain a career going on.

Well, until this, until this certain turn of events, he was he'd looked like a very decent Formula One driver, you know, he'd acquitted himself well, and those eleven Grand Prix spread over the two seats. The two previous seasons, he'd been aggressive and robust, you know, racing wheel to wheel with the likes of Fernando al on So last year and Perez, you know, not making any friends. But then from the one drivers aren't out to make friends. He seems like a very personable guy when you meet him. But to be honest with you, the last two races in Australia and China, he's looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He's looked like someone who was really struggling, couldn't get his head around why it wasn't working with the car quite how the car was so difficult It did look like he was struggling. I have to say, you know, you would catch glimpses of him while he was waiting to be interviewed on camera, for example, and he just looked, you know, it looked like it looked completely shell shocked. Things like that. But you know, I'm sure he'll be able to bounce back from this. Certainly people hope so. But he needs to think about it positively. It's very hard to think about that now. You can see how he must be thinking. All his dreams have been shattered. But as long as he thinks positively, thinks right, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to prove them wrong. He can still he can still maintain a career going on.

And Andrew not to catch up. Appreciate it very much. Andrew Binson, who's with the BBC's Formula one correspondent Nix Race this coming weekend week in of course Japan. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio

And Andrew not to catch up. Appreciate it very much. Andrew Binson, who's with the BBC's Formula one correspondent Nix Race this coming weekend week in of course Japan. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio