Last year Andrew was stressed, dealing with rollercoaster cash flow and bad apples on his team. His books weren't up to date, he had no financial visibility, and despite having work, the cash wasn't there. Today, he's landing $400-500K jobs at 23% gross profit margin with completely different stress levels.

Join Owen Chambers and Coach Cole as they break down Andrew's 9-month transformation story. Discover how getting the right people off the bus (and the right people on) can actually improve momentum rather than kill it, why financial visibility is crucial for reducing anxiety, and how repositioning from small renos to larger projects changed everything.

Learn the Same Page Plan framework for team alignment, why you should view your business like a sports team (not a family), and how one bad apple really can spoil the whole batch - plus what to do about it.

Key Points
00:00:00 Introduction: Coach Cole's Builder Summit highlights
00:03:20 Andrew's starting point: stress, cash flow, and team issues
00:06:40 The three main areas of focus: team, profit protection, financial visibility
00:09:15 Getting people off the bus to improve momentum
00:12:30 The Same Page Plan framework for team alignment
00:15:45 Why financial visibility reduces business owner anxiety
00:18:20 Results: From $140K to $500K jobs at 23% margin
00:21:40 Next moves: hiring office manager and pushing to 25% margin
00:24:10 The market test vs. opinion on pricing
00:26:30 Advice for builders in Andrew's starting position

Tune in to discover how focusing on the fundamentals - people, systems, and numbers - can transform your building business from a source of stress into an energizing venture you control on your own terms.

Our construction business coaching has helped 3,100+ building companies succeed. Subscribe to The Builder's Ladder Podcast for weekly, actionable insights — tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.

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Last year Andrew was stressed, dealing with rollercoaster cash flow and bad apples on his team. His books weren't up to date, he had no financial visibility, and despite having work, the cash wasn't there. Today, he's landing $400-500K jobs at 23% gross profit margin with completely different stress levels.
Join Owen Chambers and Coach Cole as they break down Andrew's 9-month transformation story. Discover how getting the right people off the bus (and the right people on) can actually improve momentum rather than kill it, why financial visibility is crucial for reducing anxiety, and how repositioning from small renos to larger projects changed everything.
Learn the Same Page Plan framework for team alignment, why you should view your business like a sports team (not a family), and how one bad apple really can spoil the whole batch - plus what to do about it.
Key Points
<ul>
<li>00:00:00 Introduction: Coach Cole's Builder Summit highlights</li>
<li>00:03:20 Andrew's starting point: stress, cash flow, and team issues</li>
<li>00:06:40 The three main areas of focus: team, profit protection, financial visibility</li>
<li>00:09:15 Getting people off the bus to improve momentum</li>
<li>00:12:30 The Same Page Plan framework for team alignment</li>
<li>00:15:45 Why financial visibility reduces business owner anxiety</li>
<li>00:18:20 Results: From $140K to $500K jobs at 23% margin</li>
<li>00:21:40 Next moves: hiring office manager and pushing to 25% margin</li>
<li>00:24:10 The market test vs. opinion on pricing</li>
<li>00:26:30 Advice for builders in Andrew's starting position</li>
</ul>
Tune in to discover how focusing on the fundamentals - people, systems, and numbers - can transform your building business from a source of stress into an energizing venture you control on your own terms.
Our construction business coaching has helped 3,100+ building companies succeed. Subscribe to The Builder's Ladder Podcast for weekly, actionable insights &mdash; tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.
Follow TPB for more:
<ul>
<li>🖥️ Get your business health audit + free resources (including website audit) here &ndash;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theprofessionalbuilder.com">https://www.theprofessionalbuilder.com</a></li>
<li>🚀 Head to <a href="https://tpb.tools/pod-call">https://tpb.tools/pod-call</a> to book your FREE strategy session.</li>
</ul>
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Welcome to The Builders Ladder, for residential builders and construction business owners who want to fast-track their results, scale their construction company, and create a systemized, profitable construction business.

If you’re ready to free up your time, increase profit, and build a high-performing team, you’re in the right place.

Your host, Marti Amos, has worked with over 5,000 building companies globally over the last 19+ years through builder coaching and proven business systems. His mission? To help you climb the builder’s ladder and run a predictable, high-margin construction business.

Tune in to hear from industry experts and discover step-by-step strategies to become a strategic building business owner - and ultimately, achieve true wealth, time freedom, and financial freedom through your residential construction business.

Welcome to The Builders Ladder, for residential builders and construction business owners who want to fast-track their results, scale their construction company, and create a systemized, profitable construction business.
If you&rsquo;re ready to free up your time, increase profit, and build a high-performing team, you&rsquo;re in the right place.
Your host, Marti Amos, has worked with over 5,000 building companies globally over the last 19+ years through builder coaching and proven business systems. His mission? To help you climb the builder&rsquo;s ladder and run a predictable, high-margin construction business.
Tune in to hear from industry experts and discover step-by-step strategies to become a strategic building business owner - and ultimately, achieve true wealth, time freedom, and financial freedom through your residential construction business.

The Builders Ladder: Business Growth Strategies for Residential Construction Businesses

Epi 152: Sometimes You Gotta Get People Off the Damn Bus: The Same Page Plan That Changes Everything

Marti sits down with Simone McKenzie, CEO of Core Refurbishments in Western Australia. Simone opens up about the brutal reality of staring down a $250,000 debt and nearly going bankrupt. She explains how keeping underperforming staff and tolerating toxic clients almost cost her the entire business. By shifting her focus strictly to retirement living and utilizing a subcontractor only model, she completely rebuilt her operations.

Simone shares the exact steps she took to dig out of a massive $150,000 tax debt, starting with cutting the dead wood and aggressively raising her margins. They discuss how to stop bleeding cash on missed variations by ditching messy spreadsheets for proper project management software. If you are struggling with fixed price contracts or letting bad clients dictate your worth, Simone's turnaround story is the ultimate blueprint for taking back control.

🕒 Timestamped Key Points
[00:00] Staring down a massive $250,000 company debt
[05:58] The brutal reality of taking responsibility for other people's money
[07:28] Why you must cut the dead wood from your team immediately
[08:14] The absolute terror of raising your margins to survive
[09:18] Firing toxic clients who refuse to pay what you are worth
[11:00] Building a subbies only model for retirement living projects
[13:20] How to stop losing thousands of dollars on missed site variations
[18:26] Transitioning from being a mate to an assertive business leader

***

The Professional Builder has helped over 3,100+ building companies around the world get more Profit, more Time and Succeed in Selling their Business.

https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt

Subscribe to our channel for weekly, actionable insights. Tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.

Want to Join our coaching program? Or just speak to one of our team to see if it's the right fit for you? Hit the link below. Everything you need is there!

https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt

Marti sits down with Simone McKenzie, CEO of Core Refurbishments in Western Australia. Simone opens up about the brutal reality of staring down a $250,000 debt and nearly going bankrupt. She explains how keeping underperforming staff and tolerating toxic clients almost cost her the entire business. By shifting her focus strictly to retirement living and utilizing a subcontractor only model, she completely rebuilt her operations.
Simone shares the exact steps she took to dig out of a massive $150,000 tax debt, starting with cutting the dead wood and aggressively raising her margins. They discuss how to stop bleeding cash on missed variations by ditching messy spreadsheets for proper project management software. If you are struggling with fixed price contracts or letting bad clients dictate your worth, Simone's turnaround story is the ultimate blueprint for taking back control.
🕒 Timestamped Key Points
<ul>
<li>[00:00] Staring down a massive $250,000 company debt</li>
<li>[05:58] The brutal reality of taking responsibility for other people's money</li>
<li>[07:28] Why you must cut the dead wood from your team immediately</li>
<li>[08:14] The absolute terror of raising your margins to survive</li>
<li>[09:18] Firing toxic clients who refuse to pay what you are worth</li>
<li>[11:00] Building a subbies only model for retirement living projects</li>
<li>[13:20] How to stop losing thousands of dollars on missed site variations</li>
<li>[18:26] Transitioning from being a mate to an assertive business leader</li>
</ul>
***
The Professional Builder has helped over 3,100+ building companies around the world get more Profit, more Time and Succeed in Selling their Business.
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt">https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt</a>
Subscribe to our channel for weekly, actionable insights. Tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.
Want to Join our coaching program? Or just speak to one of our team to see if it's the right fit for you? Hit the link below. Everything you need is there!
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt">https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt</a>

Epi 195: If You Treat Your Staff Like THIS, You Will Lose Everything

Owen sits down with Rick, founder of Estimating Online, to expose the brutal truth about pricing building projects. For years, the industry relied on pumping out free estimates and playing the volume game, hoping to land a few contracts. Rick explains why this outdated model treats your expertise like a cheap commodity and slowly drains your margins.

Rick shares his experience from running Blue Level Estimating. He was doing six or seven quotes a day, but his builders were still losing jobs because clients were given unrealistic budgets by architects. He breaks down exactly why you must charge for quotes, how to filter out bad subbies, and why deducting your estimating fee from the final fixed price contract is a massive mistake.

They also dive into the danger of trying to do everything yourself. Using a brilliant sports analogy, Rick and Owen explain why hiring elite specialists is the only way to scale a profitable construction company and get off the tools for good.

🕒 Timestamped Key Points
[04:45] Why $120k in-house estimators are a thing of the past
[07:38] The danger of playing the volume game with quoting
[09:50] Why charging for quotes is no longer taboo
[11:00] Why you must never credit the quote fee back to the client
[16:42] The harsh reality of quoting against bad architectural budgets
[19:10] The physical cost of building a software company
[24:18] Why relying on generalists will cap your business growth
[28:23] The sports playbook for hiring elite specialists

***

The Professional Builder has helped over 3,100+ building companies around the world get more Profit, more Time and Succeed in Selling their Business.

https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt

Subscribe to our channel for weekly, actionable insights. Tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.

Want to Join our coaching program? Or just speak to one of our team to see if it's the right fit for you? Hit the link below. Everything you need is there!

https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt

Owen sits down with Rick, founder of Estimating Online, to expose the brutal truth about pricing building projects. For years, the industry relied on pumping out free estimates and playing the volume game, hoping to land a few contracts. Rick explains why this outdated model treats your expertise like a cheap commodity and slowly drains your margins.
Rick shares his experience from running Blue Level Estimating. He was doing six or seven quotes a day, but his builders were still losing jobs because clients were given unrealistic budgets by architects. He breaks down exactly why you must charge for quotes, how to filter out bad subbies, and why deducting your estimating fee from the final fixed price contract is a massive mistake.
They also dive into the danger of trying to do everything yourself. Using a brilliant sports analogy, Rick and Owen explain why hiring elite specialists is the only way to scale a profitable construction company and get off the tools for good.
🕒 Timestamped Key Points
<ul>
<li>[04:45] Why $120k in-house estimators are a thing of the past</li>
<li>[07:38] The danger of playing the volume game with quoting</li>
<li>[09:50] Why charging for quotes is no longer taboo</li>
<li>[11:00] Why you must never credit the quote fee back to the client</li>
<li>[16:42] The harsh reality of quoting against bad architectural budgets</li>
<li>[19:10] The physical cost of building a software company</li>
<li>[24:18] Why relying on generalists will cap your business growth</li>
<li>[28:23] The sports playbook for hiring elite specialists</li>
</ul>
***
The Professional Builder has helped over 3,100+ building companies around the world get more Profit, more Time and Succeed in Selling their Business.
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt">https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt</a>
Subscribe to our channel for weekly, actionable insights. Tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.
Want to Join our coaching program? Or just speak to one of our team to see if it's the right fit for you? Hit the link below. Everything you need is there!
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt">https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt</a>

Epi 194: If You Price Jobs Like THIS, You Are Bleeding Margin

Owen sits down with Leon Sokolski, founder of Lokal Engage, to break down why having a pretty website is actually bleeding your building company dry. Leon explains how to turn your digital presence from an online brochure into a 24/7 sales rep that protects your margins, filters out tire kickers, and pre-qualifies your ideal clients.

They dive into the brutal reality of scaling a business and the toxic trap of misaligned partnerships. Leon shares specific strategies for increasing website conversions, from creating a bold site policy guarantee to using the sawdust strategy for repurposing video content. They also unpack why AI is about to force operational efficiency across the building industry and how you can get ahead of it.

Get the free Website Conversion Audit Checklist mentioned in this episode here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-5OBxFuTIL5pX7b_1bL_X_pwTU-4bb-/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=111866581252287131581&rtpof=true&sd=true



🕒 Timestamped Key Points
[03:22] The critical difference between driving traffic and actually converting leads
[06:22] Why specific messaging is the ultimate needle mover for your site
[10:50] How a 1% margin increase saves you $210,000 in required revenue
[14:18] Using a $50 nail jar policy to weed out bad subbies
[16:44] Why case studies are about them, but testimonials are about you
[25:10] The sawdust strategy for getting a massive return on video content
[30:36] The brutal reality of misaligned business partnerships
[36:43] Why AI will aggressively bunny hop software uptake in construction

***

The Professional Builder has helped over 3,100+ building companies around the world get more Profit, more Time and Succeed in Selling their Business.

https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt

Subscribe to our channel for weekly, actionable insights. Tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.

Want to Join our coaching program? Or just speak to one of our team to see if it's the right fit for you? Hit the link below. Everything you need is there!

https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt

Owen sits down with Leon Sokolski, founder of Lokal Engage, to break down why having a pretty website is actually bleeding your building company dry. Leon explains how to turn your digital presence from an online brochure into a 24/7 sales rep that protects your margins, filters out tire kickers, and pre-qualifies your ideal clients. They dive into the brutal reality of scaling a business and the toxic trap of misaligned partnerships. Leon shares specific strategies for increasing website conversions, from creating a bold site policy guarantee to using the sawdust strategy for repurposing video content. They also unpack why AI is about to force operational efficiency across the building industry and how you can get ahead of it. Get the free Website Conversion Audit Checklist mentioned in this episode here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-5OBxFuTIL5pX7b_1bL_X_pwTU-4bb-/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=111866581252287131581&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/16-5OBxFuTIL5pX7b_1bL_X_pwTU-4bb-/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=111866581252287131581&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true</a> 
🕒 Timestamped Key Points
<ul>
<li>[03:22] The critical difference between driving traffic and actually converting leads</li>
<li>[06:22] Why specific messaging is the ultimate needle mover for your site</li>
<li>[10:50] How a 1% margin increase saves you $210,000 in required revenue</li>
<li>[14:18] Using a $50 nail jar policy to weed out bad subbies</li>
<li>[16:44] Why case studies are about them, but testimonials are about you</li>
<li>[25:10] The sawdust strategy for getting a massive return on video content</li>
<li>[30:36] The brutal reality of misaligned business partnerships</li>
<li>[36:43] Why AI will aggressively bunny hop software uptake in construction</li>
</ul>
***
The Professional Builder has helped over 3,100+ building companies around the world get more Profit, more Time and Succeed in Selling their Business.
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt">https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt</a>
Subscribe to our channel for weekly, actionable insights. Tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.
Want to Join our coaching program? Or just speak to one of our team to see if it's the right fit for you? Hit the link below. Everything you need is there!
<a href="https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt">https://tinyurl.com/tpb-yt</a>

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