Imagine, if you will, that you are in a place of great beauty. Some teenage boys walk past you, they yell out, they bitch tits. The world you see is a place of paradox of beauty and cruelty. It will cut you off of the knees then gift you a pair of easies. And that, my friends, is why you always always need a buck up?

Imagine, if you will, that you are in a place of great beauty. Some teenage boys walk past you, they yell out, they bitch tits. The world you see is a place of paradox of beauty and cruelty. It will cut you off of the knees then gift you a pair of easies. And that, my friends, is why you always always need a buck up?

What do you need?

What do you need?

Bah bah, A buck up, A backup? Yeah, we need a buck up, a break, a backup. Yeah, we need a backup, not a.

Bah bah, A buck up, A backup? Yeah, we need a buck up, a break, a backup. Yeah, we need a backup, not a.

Buck down, and not a around. We need a backup.

Buck down, and not a around. We need a backup.

If that's what we need, you know what we should do this week. But if we just flipped it around one week for an experiment and said, we're going to bring you all down a notch and we're going to list things that are depressing and awful and be just like every other podcast where people go.

If that's what we need, you know what we should do this week. But if we just flipped it around one week for an experiment and said, we're going to bring you all down a notch and we're going to list things that are depressing and awful and be just like every other podcast where people go.

And then you'll cry, I cry, You're weep.

And then you'll cry, I cry, You're weep.

I'll cry about add and then you'll weep about you weeping. What an awful beginning.

I'll cry about add and then you'll weep about you weeping. What an awful beginning.

But wouldn't it be good? Because you know, sometimes I think you get.

But wouldn't it be good? Because you know, sometimes I think you get.

Taken for granted when you bring the Joey for instance, hang on, I've got to introduce you.

Taken for granted when you bring the Joey for instance, hang on, I've got to introduce you.

You are, I believe am I Nate Valvo.

You are, I believe am I Nate Valvo.

Hello Kate lane Brook.

Hello Kate lane Brook.

Oh hello Nate Valvo.

Oh hello Nate Valvo.

Before we kick off, do you want to discuss the who eight year old boy in the corner?

Before we kick off, do you want to discuss the who eight year old boy in the corner?

Oh? Sorry, Sasha French eight year old? Well?

Oh? Sorry, Sasha French eight year old? Well?

Have I ever told you the story about how this is Sasha's look?

Have I ever told you the story about how this is Sasha's look?

Sash, by the way, is hot as haydies these?

Sash, by the way, is hot as haydies these?

No, always has been, And since we did radio together, when we do things with listeners, they were always like this is a beautiful right, and some of them were even different accents than that, like.

No, always has been, And since we did radio together, when we do things with listeners, they were always like this is a beautiful right, and some of them were even different accents than that, like.

She's hot, uh huh.

She's hot, uh huh.

Anyway, but when we discovered this scene that when we'd fly on planes, would take plane trips together, I had this revelation and I would always make a friend on the plane.

Anyway, but when we discovered this scene that when we'd fly on planes, would take plane trips together, I had this revelation and I would always make a friend on the plane.

I was traveling in a different part of the plane. I mean, let's be honest.

I was traveling in a different part of the plane. I mean, let's be honest.

You're down with the luggage in a cage.

You're down with the luggage in a cage.

Anyway, two things would happen. I'd always make a friend on the plane. That then I'd palm off to Sash, who was single.

Anyway, two things would happen. I'd always make a friend on the plane. That then I'd palm off to Sash, who was single.

You're my worst nightmare? Oh okay, on a plane was a friend. I don't want to make a friend anywhere. I got friend a male with the potential to okay, but you just introduced her as an eight year old boy.

You're my worst nightmare? Oh okay, on a plane was a friend. I don't want to make a friend anywhere. I got friend a male with the potential to okay, but you just introduced her as an eight year old boy.

It's one thing Sasha French can do, it's realize potential, right. But the other thing that happened was I would always get helped by strangers me with my bag. They'd always be like putting it up, getting it down.

It's one thing Sasha French can do, it's realize potential, right. But the other thing that happened was I would always get helped by strangers me with my bag. They'd always be like putting it up, getting it down.

I do my own fossicking, but they do the heavy lifting right.

I do my own fossicking, but they do the heavy lifting right.

And Sash was like, because I discovered that if I was going to get on a plane, I was going to try and look nice on a plane, those.

And Sash was like, because I discovered that if I was going to get on a plane, I was going to try and look nice on a plane, those.

Are the days they're gone.

Are the days they're gone.

Well, no, no, I for you still be Yeah, what happened?

Well, no, no, I for you still be Yeah, what happened?

I look evacuation sheet when I'm getting on a plane, and why comfort? Yeah? No, have you seen the line of people boarding an international flight. You've never seen a group of uglier clothes exactly like gray sweatpants as far as the eye can see, exactly, big jumpers with weird stains on them, hideous boots.

I look evacuation sheet when I'm getting on a plane, and why comfort? Yeah? No, have you seen the line of people boarding an international flight. You've never seen a group of uglier clothes exactly like gray sweatpants as far as the eye can see, exactly, big jumpers with weird stains on them, hideous boots.

There's no need to be the part of the buck up is that you elevate yourself and you elevate people around.

There's no need to be the part of the buck up is that you elevate yourself and you elevate people around.

It's not interested and you couldn't think of anything worse than wearing nothing but a soft pant on a floor.

It's not interested and you couldn't think of anything worse than wearing nothing but a soft pant on a floor.

I could still be attractive.

I could still be attractive.

You know what I also hate when you're in the back of the plane, Kate, do you remember those days when we're all in the back of the plane. I got a back. Can you turn right? What when you look forward in a long haul and you see all those absolute business Wayneer is chucking on those quany pj's before you've even taken off those disgusting onesie things that they look like they've joined a cold. It's not anyway. Do you put them on dout? You put the pjs on in business? Oh my god, you don't.

You know what I also hate when you're in the back of the plane, Kate, do you remember those days when we're all in the back of the plane. I got a back. Can you turn right? What when you look forward in a long haul and you see all those absolute business Wayneer is chucking on those quany pj's before you've even taken off those disgusting onesie things that they look like they've joined a cold. It's not anyway. Do you put them on dout? You put the pjs on in business? Oh my god, you don't.

Course before takeoff, not before takeoff, okay, but because I also want to be comfortable, and another one uncomfortable clothes so that I look nice. That's lovely, right, Okay.

Course before takeoff, not before takeoff, okay, but because I also want to be comfortable, and another one uncomfortable clothes so that I look nice. That's lovely, right, Okay.

So one day we've got a trip. I think we've gone to Perth, hadn't we?

So one day we've got a trip. I think we've gone to Perth, hadn't we?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Perth? Ye?

Perth? Ye?

And I said, ah something that I said hello to someone as we're getting off the plane, and I said, Sasha, that was a lovely guy who helped me.

And I said, ah something that I said hello to someone as we're getting off the plane, and I said, Sasha, that was a lovely guy who helped me.

With my bag. And Sasha went, oh, that's nice for you.

With my bag. And Sasha went, oh, that's nice for you.

I was trying to get my big pick up into the overhead looker and I couldn't even reach it.

I was trying to get my big pick up into the overhead looker and I couldn't even reach it.

She's very short.

She's very short.

Do your feet hit the gri around if you sit on a plane seat? No? Wow, So every seat's a business seat.

Do your feet hit the gri around if you sit on a plane seat? No? Wow, So every seat's a business seat.

That's exactly right. So I never felt bad for her anyway. When she said to me, nobody, nobody helped me, and I looked at her and I said, what part of the social contract are you fulfilling? So we know that there's there's a social contract, but I said, basically, no one's going to help an eight year old boy with his bag, or maybe eight they would.

That's exactly right. So I never felt bad for her anyway. When she said to me, nobody, nobody helped me, and I looked at her and I said, what part of the social contract are you fulfilling? So we know that there's there's a social contract, but I said, basically, no one's going to help an eight year old boy with his bag, or maybe eight they would.

She looked like a fourteen year old boy.

She looked like a fourteen year old boy.

She was wearing a baseball cap, jeans, she had a hoodie, and.

She was wearing a baseball cap, jeans, she had a hoodie, and.

She had a maroone backpack. Nobody is helping that person.

She had a maroone backpack. Nobody is helping that person.

It's as though you set out to disguise your beauty, your feminine wiles. Whereas one of the enduring and possibly few things that men have going for them through a society or prism, I don't agree with this is this strength and.

It's as though you set out to disguise your beauty, your feminine wiles. Whereas one of the enduring and possibly few things that men have going for them through a society or prism, I don't agree with this is this strength and.

The fact that you can be helpless. It is Sash always look pretty.

The fact that you can be helpless. It is Sash always look pretty.

How a plane. We want you next time you get on a plane, make sure you look like an eight year old boy wearing a dress, not I'll attract the right kind of guy anyway.

How a plane. We want you next time you get on a plane, make sure you look like an eight year old boy wearing a dress, not I'll attract the right kind of guy anyway.

It's just an interesting thing, you know how, they say. I said it to my son. Too many teachable moments in our life. But I said to him the other day, he went shopping for the first time because he's got a job. He's doing an apprentice engineering thing, which is he's working for a real company, but he studies at UNI two days a week, right, And he went for the first time and bought.

It's just an interesting thing, you know how, they say. I said it to my son. Too many teachable moments in our life. But I said to him the other day, he went shopping for the first time because he's got a job. He's doing an apprentice engineering thing, which is he's working for a real company, but he studies at UNI two days a week, right, And he went for the first time and bought.

Himself a shirt.

Himself a shirt.

Love this, love it.

Love this, love it.

And when I was having a look at it, sat on, of course, on the kitchen table for two days, had a look a little like Pins struck beautiful shirts.

And when I was having a look at it, sat on, of course, on the kitchen table for two days, had a look a little like Pins struck beautiful shirts.

One hundred and nineteen dollars. That's treated himself.

One hundred and nineteen dollars. That's treated himself.

It's a hard, proper shirt, isn't it.

It's a hard, proper shirt, isn't it.

I said, Oh, that's a beautiful shirt art And he goes, oh, I think it's a bit too dressy for work.

I said, Oh, that's a beautiful shirt art And he goes, oh, I think it's a bit too dressy for work.

And I said to him.

And I said to him.

Here we go. What did you say, Kate said, listened.

Here we go. What did you say, Kate said, listened.

Dress for the job you want, not the job you have. There's no rule.

Dress for the job you want, not the job you have. There's no rule.

Now, we somehow are ashamed if we ever look nice or we've made an effort, because the whole, the whole society is on a travelometer.

Now, we somehow are ashamed if we ever look nice or we've made an effort, because the whole, the whole society is on a travelometer.

To depression.

To depression.

You've banged one about this. Yes, at the end of last year and one of our episode you did say you were waiting in the car and the city and everyone that was crossing the road looked discussing. Yes, just fine for the gym.

You've banged one about this. Yes, at the end of last year and one of our episode you did say you were waiting in the car and the city and everyone that was crossing the road looked discussing. Yes, just fine for the gym.

Jeans, fine for the gym, but why do we have to dress like that all the time?

Jeans, fine for the gym, but why do we have to dress like that all the time?

Speaking of dressing, last week's top gate t shirt gate? Were you wearing a long sleeve top or a T shirt?

Speaking of dressing, last week's top gate t shirt gate? Were you wearing a long sleeve top or a T shirt?

What's happened?

What's happened?

People have a lot of opinions. I mean, we really just hit the big questions in the war world. Well, you know, curly whirlies, T shirts or tops.

People have a lot of opinions. I mean, we really just hit the big questions in the war world. Well, you know, curly whirlies, T shirts or tops.

God is in the details. It's in the detail, and so is the devil.

God is in the details. It's in the detail, and so is the devil.

People had some things to say about do tops actually exist the same time as long sleeve T shirtshirt? Because technically a T shirt is a T shirt because it's a shorn slant whatever.

People had some things to say about do tops actually exist the same time as long sleeve T shirtshirt? Because technically a T shirt is a T shirt because it's a shorn slant whatever.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

So we did a pole.

So we did a pole.

You're trying to sneak that through as he did.

You're trying to sneak that through as he did.

We did a pole.

We did a pole.

Okay, what happened?

Okay, what happened?

Were you wearing a top or a long sleeve tea? Kate? I was actually really surprised about this. I thought it would be a fifty to fifty on the line. Eighty two percent said, you just say top.

Were you wearing a top or a long sleeve tea? Kate? I was actually really surprised about this. I thought it would be a fifty to fifty on the line. Eighty two percent said, you just say top.

No I knew when you so gleefully.

No I knew when you so gleefully.

Long sleeve tea so dress to impress.

Long sleeve tea so dress to impress.

Call it the right and anyway, it's a long sleeved T shirt. It stretches.

Call it the right and anyway, it's a long sleeved T shirt. It stretches.

The second thing I wanted to bring up before we kicked off to a fantastic pot with.

The second thing I wanted to bring up before we kicked off to a fantastic pot with.

Its money back guarantee, is there? Oh you know what it is?

Its money back guarantee, is there? Oh you know what it is?

No, I.

No, I.

That you will feel better, Yes, you were at the end of this podcast than you do at the start. No matter how what righteously good spirits.

That you will feel better, Yes, you were at the end of this podcast than you do at the start. No matter how what righteously good spirits.

You come to us in, no matter what disgusting clothes you're wearing about to border.

You come to us in, no matter what disgusting clothes you're wearing about to border.

Play, matter what we will up you, you will feel so great.

Play, matter what we will up you, you will feel so great.

You will feel like you've spot in the corny business pjs.

You will feel like you've spot in the corny business pjs.

And in fact, we've only had to honor the money back guarantee with one dissatisfied customer because.

And in fact, we've only had to honor the money back guarantee with one dissatisfied customer because.

We kicked off on seventy percent Coco.

We kicked off on seventy percent Coco.

Which was what was her thing, thoud hard.

Which was what was her thing, thoud hard.

We almost lost a few with curly Whirlings too. I've learned my lesson, But this is the episode that almost never happened. We come to the studio last night of the night before technical difficulties. We have to actually pull the pin. We couldn't record, and now no.

We almost lost a few with curly Whirlings too. I've learned my lesson, But this is the episode that almost never happened. We come to the studio last night of the night before technical difficulties. We have to actually pull the pin. We couldn't record, and now no.

It wouldn't sash Win Foss will not record.

It wouldn't sash Win Foss will not record.

I was like, why is there an eight year old boy at the desk? Why it was busy playing Minecraft? We go downstairs my favorite cake story. Wait a while, this is the Kate life, the Cake the Caate world. So we're leaving all at the same time. It really happens. Yeah, all three cars are about to leave. So I had to watch you leave because you're in the car park next to me and you're just smiling and loving life in your car. Yeah. It's actually quite big, that one.

I was like, why is there an eight year old boy at the desk? Why it was busy playing Minecraft? We go downstairs my favorite cake story. Wait a while, this is the Kate life, the Cake the Caate world. So we're leaving all at the same time. It really happens. Yeah, all three cars are about to leave. So I had to watch you leave because you're in the car park next to me and you're just smiling and loving life in your car. Yeah. It's actually quite big, that one.

It's cheapy for me.

It's cheapy for me.

I think it is, because let's keep it. You reverse out, yeah, and I was like, oh, she better slow down. There is that pole back there, and you keep reversing. You keep reversing. Bang, you reverse into the pole. Not even a flinch in the face. You don't even walk, just keep smiling in to drive off.

I think it is, because let's keep it. You reverse out, yeah, and I was like, oh, she better slow down. There is that pole back there, and you keep reversing. You keep reversing. Bang, you reverse into the pole. Not even a flinch in the face. You don't even walk, just keep smiling in to drive off.

You got that you reversed into the pole?

You got that you reversed into the pole?

Did I I knew that? I did.

Did I I knew that? I did.

I did hear it.

I did hear it.

Thought I heard a third.

Thought I heard a third.

I did hear a third.

I did hear a third.

I heard a third? And you know what I'm best. I'm also life advice. When I walk into a dark room and I'm scared of the dark, I close my eyes.

I heard a third? And you know what I'm best. I'm also life advice. When I walk into a dark room and I'm scared of the dark, I close my eyes.

That's a good way to drive a car.

That's a good way to drive a car.

No, well, so I knew that something bad had happened.

No, well, so I knew that something bad had happened.

Fails.

Fails.

Why I didn't want to know what.

Why I didn't want to know what.

You can But if I was dressed well, some lovely man would have come.

You can But if I was dressed well, some lovely man would have come.

I was too busy in shock that you just popped off.

I was too busy in shock that you just popped off.

Forgot I bumped into the pole. I haven't even told Peter.

Forgot I bumped into the pole. I haven't even told Peter.

If we were to do a bet, how many dents and dents and marks on that car there is? Roughly speaking, how many do you think? Oh?

If we were to do a bet, how many dents and dents and marks on that car there is? Roughly speaking, how many do you think? Oh?

Look, when I got it, it was in pristine condition because I got it from my friend's dad, beautiful man doctor.

Look, when I got it, it was in pristine condition because I got it from my friend's dad, beautiful man doctor.

He was a doctor.

He was a doctor.

Oh your car? Who's a doctor car? Yeah, it's a doctor car. It's a bit eighty.

Oh your car? Who's a doctor car? Yeah, it's a doctor car. It's a bit eighty.

It was immaculate when I got it, and now it's.

It was immaculate when I got it, and now it's.

Eight ten things.

Eight ten things.

It looks like a Dodge on car.

It looks like a Dodge on car.

Yeah, it's not what it was. And it was a beautiful car. It's been really good to me. Remember the start, it was haunted. No, oh, it broke down all the time. I had to take it to the mechanic like four times in tree day and the.

Yeah, it's not what it was. And it was a beautiful car. It's been really good to me. Remember the start, it was haunted. No, oh, it broke down all the time. I had to take it to the mechanic like four times in tree day and the.

Mechanic said, there's a ghost in this machine.

Mechanic said, there's a ghost in this machine.

They don't talk like that.

They don't talk like that.

What did you take it? Knowing you you probably are the only person who has a holistic mechanic.

What did you take it? Knowing you you probably are the only person who has a holistic mechanic.

Is there such a thing? Is there?

Is there such a thing? Is there?

Like your car broke down? A little negative energy? Speak more positively when your driver, okay speaking, put this blue stuff in the engine. It makes your engine go blue. But have it every time?

Like your car broke down? A little negative energy? Speak more positively when your driver, okay speaking, put this blue stuff in the engine. It makes your engine go blue. But have it every time?

Okay? Speaking of positive energy.

Okay? Speaking of positive energy.

Yes, a beautiful shout out to all our buckheads, our buckwhets.

Yes, a beautiful shout out to all our buckheads, our buckwhets.

We love them, we love them.

We love them, we love them.

All, but particularly an international bucket. Oh yeah, what about this?

All, but particularly an international bucket. Oh yeah, what about this?

I am listening from Doyleston, Pennsylvania.

I am listening from Doyleston, Pennsylvania.

I love, love, love you guys. I get bucked every time. Freaking funny or should I say bucking funny? Big fan, huge Carolyne.

I love, love, love you guys. I get bucked every time. Freaking funny or should I say bucking funny? Big fan, huge Carolyne.

I think her? Do you think Kaz is an Aussie expat or no?

I think her? Do you think Kaz is an Aussie expat or no?

She just looks like an American?

She just looks like an American?

Okay.

Okay.

Don't you think she would have said she was an Australian?

Don't you think she would have said she was an Australian?

Okay?

Okay?

You know Australians always say that it reminds me of what I miss from home something, you know what I mean?

You know Australians always say that it reminds me of what I miss from home something, you know what I mean?

Nice pod? You think you're better than me would be the au.

Nice pod? You think you're better than me would be the au.

So I think she's so American she'll contact us again because you'll have heard this.

So I think she's so American she'll contact us again because you'll have heard this.

But how to lot put a message from someone in Dublin the other day?

But how to lot put a message from someone in Dublin the other day?

What did they say?

What did they say?

But they're in Dublin and then they listen I remembers not going on there?

But they're in Dublin and then they listen I remembers not going on there?

Why didn't you do an Irish accent?

Why didn't you do an Irish accent?

You've had this chat so many times. I'm very very bad at accents, and so were you. I know it doesn't stop you, but.

You've had this chat so many times. I'm very very bad at accents, and so were you. I know it doesn't stop you, but.

I, oh, is that the first nig?

I, oh, is that the first nig?

Oh?

Oh?

No, we've done my driving. Excuse the second leg of.

No, we've done my driving. Excuse the second leg of.

The pod witnessing you reverse into a pole and just sharing a story modern.

The pod witnessing you reverse into a pole and just sharing a story modern.

I think it's like.

I think it's like.

Hey kay, you reversed into a pole. Stop nagging me.

Hey kay, you reversed into a pole. Stop nagging me.

Anyway? AnyWho, Dublin.

Anyway? AnyWho, Dublin.

Mad Now, I don't want you to. You know how we're pro real teeth on the buck, yes.

Mad Now, I don't want you to. You know how we're pro real teeth on the buck, yes.

And white White Lotus.

And white White Lotus.

Of course we spoke about it a couple of weeks ago.

Of course we spoke about it a couple of weeks ago.

Odd that they cast the two new best friends, the English girl and the American girl, who both have got real teeth.

Odd that they cast the two new best friends, the English girl and the American girl, who both have got real teeth.

Real teeth together. Yeah, I would have thought they would have diluted it.

Real teeth together. Yeah, I would have thought they would have diluted it.

Baby, and especially because one of them is the girlfriend of Baby Baby Bobby, Baby Billy, and he's got the bigger, whitest, fakest teeth.

Baby, and especially because one of them is the girlfriend of Baby Baby Bobby, Baby Billy, and he's got the bigger, whitest, fakest teeth.

Maybe maybe it's all on purpose. I will say, though I can watch a show for years, I can be five seasons into a television show, I couldn't name a single character. Ever. I don't know character names, do you know? I don't either, and fame never ever know the name of anyone in any show.

Maybe maybe it's all on purpose. I will say, though I can watch a show for years, I can be five seasons into a television show, I couldn't name a single character. Ever. I don't know character names, do you know? I don't either, and fame never ever know the name of anyone in any show.

I see baby Billy, that's not even his character name in this show.

I see baby Billy, that's not even his character name in this show.

I don't even know.

I don't even know.

That's from another show called The Something Gemstones Rights.

That's from another show called The Something Gemstones Rights.

But if you said that, just then that's his name. It needs to.

But if you said that, just then that's his name. It needs to.

I never know anyone's character names either. And also you know, I don't recognize people's faces.

I never know anyone's character names either. And also you know, I don't recognize people's faces.

I think I think all TV shows, every now and then their name with a little arrow should just pop up on the screen just to remind me.

I think I think all TV shows, every now and then their name with a little arrow should just pop up on the screen just to remind me.

Who they do in a documentary where they have to put.

Who they do in a documentary where they have to put.

Down the bottom bottom Yes, a dead man's wife.

Down the bottom bottom Yes, a dead man's wife.

And just in case the buckets missed me, say this the other week on some features now on Netflix, if you press rewind, the subtitles come up for twenty seconds, so if.

And just in case the buckets missed me, say this the other week on some features now on Netflix, if you press rewind, the subtitles come up for twenty seconds, so if.

You can hear what they say, so you can read what they say.

You can hear what they say, so you can read what they say.

Alright, so someone mumble just pressed for a wine, and then you can actually read what they said.

Alright, so someone mumble just pressed for a wine, and then you can actually read what they said.

All right, can we just I've got to confess to do a lot.

All right, can we just I've got to confess to do a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I watch all TV shows with subtiles. I they have the subtitles on all the time.

I watch all TV shows with subtiles. I they have the subtitles on all the time.

Why.

Why.

Well, because then you don't have to really pay attention.

Well, because then you don't have to really pay attention.

I would say you have to pay more attention.

I would say you have to pay more attention.

No, because because you can look just glance up. I'm not like you. I'm quite a good reader. So where to speaking anyway? So I and you know what, my daughter does it as well. Okay, it's great.

No, because because you can look just glance up. I'm not like you. I'm quite a good reader. So where to speaking anyway? So I and you know what, my daughter does it as well. Okay, it's great.

It's quite annoying sometimes if there's a white bottom of the picture that they've filmed and the subtitles are white, that's annoying.

It's quite annoying sometimes if there's a white bottom of the picture that they've filmed and the subtitles are white, that's annoying.

I did when I did a screenwriting course once. One of the things that they told us to do was to watch all TV in movies with the subtitles on, so we get better at the muscle of looking at dialogue. Oh really, So maybe that's what you're doing because you're writing your book.

I did when I did a screenwriting course once. One of the things that they told us to do was to watch all TV in movies with the subtitles on, so we get better at the muscle of looking at dialogue. Oh really, So maybe that's what you're doing because you're writing your book.

Well, remember I've told.

Well, remember I've told.

You before, you're writing your book.

You before, you're writing your book.

I told you before.

I told you before.

That's why the Dutch are so good at speaking English and the Scandinavians, whereas the French and the Italians are not good because the Dutch always subtitled their shows and the Italians and the French dubbed the doos, so they just have a voice mouthing the actors' words, whereas the Dutch learned, we're basically in English lessons, see, and their English is so good that it's almost When Peter and I were there, and we've been to a coffee shop, so we were. I actually said to Peter, I cannot have one more from conversation with a Dutch person in which their English is better than ours. You're grappling with these concepts. They're too smart.

That's why the Dutch are so good at speaking English and the Scandinavians, whereas the French and the Italians are not good because the Dutch always subtitled their shows and the Italians and the French dubbed the doos, so they just have a voice mouthing the actors' words, whereas the Dutch learned, we're basically in English lessons, see, and their English is so good that it's almost When Peter and I were there, and we've been to a coffee shop, so we were. I actually said to Peter, I cannot have one more from conversation with a Dutch person in which their English is better than ours. You're grappling with these concepts. They're too smart.

I won't name names, but I was at a wedding the other day and told me she was in those parts of the world with her two children and had a muffin that maybe she should not have had.

I won't name names, but I was at a wedding the other day and told me she was in those parts of the world with her two children and had a muffin that maybe she should not have had.

Oh yes, at a coffee shop with.

Oh yes, at a coffee shop with.

Her teenage kids. Oh no, she didn't know, she knew, but she didn't teenage. Maybe a little bit too many, too many bites of this special muffin. How old were the kids, maybe late.

Her teenage kids. Oh no, she didn't know, she knew, but she didn't teenage. Maybe a little bit too many, too many bites of this special muffin. How old were the kids, maybe late.

Teens, they'd have to be.

Teens, they'd have to be.

They're all involved, cool parents. I don't know that then she had a bit of a trip, shall we say, in a bit of a panic freak out. And the family quote now is she turned to the family and said to her kids, yeah, I'm going to piss and ship myself at the same time to mention the name, because the whole family listened to the Buckerod. She'll tell you that story the other day.

They're all involved, cool parents. I don't know that then she had a bit of a trip, shall we say, in a bit of a panic freak out. And the family quote now is she turned to the family and said to her kids, yeah, I'm going to piss and ship myself at the same time to mention the name, because the whole family listened to the Buckerod. She'll tell you that story the other day.

But that's terrible.

But that's terrible.

As a mother being stoned off, your head will never turn down on a train going somewhere.

As a mother being stoned off, your head will never turn down on a train going somewhere.

Tram in amsterdamned trams.

Tram in amsterdamned trams.

So yes, the teeth that we love, we hate. And if you've got veniers, we're not nig on the veniers. We're nagg on bad veneers.

So yes, the teeth that we love, we hate. And if you've got veniers, we're not nig on the veniers. We're nagg on bad veneers.

Yeah correct.

Yeah correct.

But also we love the beauty of natural teeth, which you know I can't embrace in myself. I'm desperate to.

But also we love the beauty of natural teeth, which you know I can't embrace in myself. I'm desperate to.

Get vinee and I'm told you get brown wine.

Get vinee and I'm told you get brown wine.

But I haven't had time. I love. That's my favorite bit of your advice.

But I haven't had time. I love. That's my favorite bit of your advice.

Amy lou Wood is the one we've been talking about, the one I love the most. Here she is talking about her teeth.

Amy lou Wood is the one we've been talking about, the one I love the most. Here she is talking about her teeth.

I mean, I can't believe the impact my teeth are having, because the Americans can't believe.

I mean, I can't believe the impact my teeth are having, because the Americans can't believe.

But they're all being lovely.

But they're all being lovely.

It's pretty much like I mean, I've seen all these these videos just come up on my Instagram as like these orthodontists analyzing my teeth. So what she has here is a whatever the hell it is, I don't know what the hell it is, and they like dissect my teeth and tell and say what's wrong with it? But then at the end go but we don't think she should change a thing. And it's like, oh my god, it feels so lovely after a real full circle a moment after being bullied my teeth rather now people are clapping.

It's pretty much like I mean, I've seen all these these videos just come up on my Instagram as like these orthodontists analyzing my teeth. So what she has here is a whatever the hell it is, I don't know what the hell it is, and they like dissect my teeth and tell and say what's wrong with it? But then at the end go but we don't think she should change a thing. And it's like, oh my god, it feels so lovely after a real full circle a moment after being bullied my teeth rather now people are clapping.

Well, so that is amazing.

Well, so that is amazing.

You know why because my husband, like yours, yours is a dabbler.

You know why because my husband, like yours, yours is a dabbler.

Into the pod, into our pod.

Into the pod, into our pod.

I don't even know that my husband's even has he totally dropped off the perch, Sash.

I don't even know that my husband's even has he totally dropped off the perch, Sash.

What is this? What do you mean as you listening?

What is this? What do you mean as you listening?

Yeah, I don't think because he hasn't heard any of this conversation. He never references it. Oh he did for a while, you know, he loves to crunch our numbers, which are great, thank you for everybody sharing this with your friends. But he hadn't heard any of the teeth conversation. So when we were watching The White Lotus. He said about what's her name.

Yeah, I don't think because he hasn't heard any of this conversation. He never references it. Oh he did for a while, you know, he loves to crunch our numbers, which are great, thank you for everybody sharing this with your friends. But he hadn't heard any of the teeth conversation. So when we were watching The White Lotus. He said about what's her name.

Amy lou Wood.

Amy lou Wood.

He goes, Oh, they've given her false teeth, right, And I said, no, No, they're actually her real teeth. He goes, And so he said about five times during the show, they're not real teeth.

He goes, Oh, they've given her false teeth, right, And I said, no, No, they're actually her real teeth. He goes, And so he said about five times during the show, they're not real teeth.

He's not listening.

He's not listening.

Let's call him Sash, Let's call him.

Let's call him Sash, Let's call him.

I've always thought I had yes, and we had yeah, the faul mate, faith faithful, all faithful. This is like years ago. I lied to a comedian at the comedy festival, because this is what you just say to comedians at the comedy firstival. I can't know what it was. And I just said, oh, I've heard really good things about your show.

I've always thought I had yes, and we had yeah, the faul mate, faith faithful, all faithful. This is like years ago. I lied to a comedian at the comedy festival, because this is what you just say to comedians at the comedy firstival. I can't know what it was. And I just said, oh, I've heard really good things about your show.

I say that lovely yeah.

I say that lovely yeah.

And they called me on it and said, what you saw?

And they called me on it and said, what you saw?

I lie? What did you sound?

I lie? What did you sound?

I can't remember. To my defense, I do forget a lot, right.

I can't remember. To my defense, I do forget a lot, right.

No, that's true, that's true.

No, that's true, that's true.

It's not that it is on brand.

It's not that it is on brand.

It's funny when you lie, because also you're.

It's funny when you lie, because also you're.

Not a liar. No, I'm bad at it, So I just don't do it.

Not a liar. No, I'm bad at it, So I just don't do it.

And I got myself in terrible trouble when I had to do a game show a little while ago, and it was a show I'd never watched.

And I got myself in terrible trouble when I had to do a game show a little while ago, and it was a show I'd never watched.

And when you go in, you know the one.

And when you go in, you know the one.

And when you go in, Giuseppe loves that.

And when you go in, Giuseppe loves that.

Yeah, so does my mum. And then when you go in, they're gonna find out why did I?

Yeah, so does my mum. And then when you go in, they're gonna find out why did I?

Like?

Like?

So, don't I don't say it. Don't say it.

So, don't I don't say it. Don't say it.

You just said I did a game show and in a couple of weeks you're gonna pop up from Tipping Point, Celerity Edition deal or like Megan mor have you filmed that one? No? Anyway, don't think story is going to be furious that you didn't know the rules of this game show.

You just said I did a game show and in a couple of weeks you're gonna pop up from Tipping Point, Celerity Edition deal or like Megan mor have you filmed that one? No? Anyway, don't think story is going to be furious that you didn't know the rules of this game show.

To support people's work, I will.

To support people's work, I will.

Also say I've watched Tipping Point and I still don't.

Also say I've watched Tipping Point and I still don't.

So here's the thing I said.

So here's the thing I said.

So they said you're familiar with the game, and I went yes, yes, And as soon as I said that, I'm like, why did I? This is the most complicated game. It's got apparatus. It's like a giant clawn machine. There's big they're called counters. Okay, the giant it's half the set is this giant mechanical thing. You've got to know who's doing what. They've all got different names for how the count his land on top of each other.

So they said you're familiar with the game, and I went yes, yes, And as soon as I said that, I'm like, why did I? This is the most complicated game. It's got apparatus. It's like a giant clawn machine. There's big they're called counters. Okay, the giant it's half the set is this giant mechanical thing. You've got to know who's doing what. They've all got different names for how the count his land on top of each other.

He's a Dorothy Dixon. Oh that's a pooy Annie.

He's a Dorothy Dixon. Oh that's a pooy Annie.

I've been pushed past my tipping point just listening to this.

I've been pushed past my tipping point just listening to this.

So when I got and it was my turn to do it, I didn't know what to do.

So when I got and it was my turn to do it, I didn't know what to do.

Of course you did. I don't know why you lied. There's another game show coming soon to your ABC that I filled a couple of apps the other day with Pea Miranda.

Of course you did. I don't know why you lied. There's another game show coming soon to your ABC that I filled a couple of apps the other day with Pea Miranda.

Oh yeah, lovely, lovely, lovely.

Oh yeah, lovely, lovely, lovely.

She's still looking for Ala Brandy and quite very similar. We did exactly this. Zoned out when they were explaining something to us, this is a game for going on television.

She's still looking for Ala Brandy and quite very similar. We did exactly this. Zoned out when they were explaining something to us, this is a game for going on television.

Maybe this is the one I was talking the game.

Maybe this is the one I was talking the game.

Began, and I don't know how they're going to edit this up because we had no idea how to play.

Began, and I don't know how they're going to edit this up because we had no idea how to play.

What was the game?

What was the game?

It was a lot of different games within the one app, or just one particular game. And when they wrapped up the app, I mean, Pierre get into the lift. I turned to her and she said, what the was that last, you booble? We just faked it. You know what we need, so we'll see how that gets edited up. You know what we need.

It was a lot of different games within the one app, or just one particular game. And when they wrapped up the app, I mean, Pierre get into the lift. I turned to her and she said, what the was that last, you booble? We just faked it. You know what we need, so we'll see how that gets edited up. You know what we need.

We need a holiday and I've got something for you okay, I think it's possibly.

We need a holiday and I've got something for you okay, I think it's possibly.

It's by the way, very quickly, very relatable content, and a lot of our listeners will understand the pain of our life of having to go on game shows and not understanding them. Welday, that's just that's just down work.

It's by the way, very quickly, very relatable content, and a lot of our listeners will understand the pain of our life of having to go on game shows and not understanding them. Welday, that's just that's just down work.

People do that at work all the time, embark on something that they don't know how to do.

People do that at work all the time, embark on something that they don't know how to do.

It's just a different arena.

It's just a different arena.

You're playing for charity on tipic.

You're playing for charity on tipic.

I was playing for it. That was the shameful thing.

I was playing for it. That was the shameful thing.

Who are you playing for?

Who are you playing for?

My Room Foundation? Which it supports kids with cancer?

My Room Foundation? Which it supports kids with cancer?

You know I had one. Oh, here we go. Time to cry?

You know I had one. Oh, here we go. Time to cry?

Can you cry so we can go viral? Yeah?

Can you cry so we can go viral? Yeah?

No, you need to cry. No one cares about women crying. Ah, Do you cry because you know you've got to touch it? Do you cry?

No, you need to cry. No one cares about women crying. Ah, Do you cry because you know you've got to touch it? Do you cry?

I cry sometimes. Cody has caught me getting emotional thinking about the dog dying, even though she's perfectly healthy and alive. I'm already I'm already morning.

I cry sometimes. Cody has caught me getting emotional thinking about the dog dying, even though she's perfectly healthy and alive. I'm already I'm already morning.

Und Derby the snobby dog.

Und Derby the snobby dog.

Fix your parking and I'll bring her over. Get me a parking bars and I'll come over.

Fix your parking and I'll bring her over. Get me a parking bars and I'll come over.

Oh, you know, jes he's got a new dog now too.

Oh, you know, jes he's got a new dog now too.

You got to rescue ginger. I don't know you could get rescue puppies, but.

You got to rescue ginger. I don't know you could get rescue puppies, but.

I said you can't. Sorry, that's what I said. How did he get one?

I said you can't. Sorry, that's what I said. How did he get one?

I feel like you can like tell a place when you get a puppy and let us know, and I will say this. I want, I want to I want people to get rescues. Of course, get rescues. Please get rescues if you can't. However, I also don't think you should shame people who say, well, it's a lot of work if they're an adult, Can I just get a puppy? Can I get a puppy?

I feel like you can like tell a place when you get a puppy and let us know, and I will say this. I want, I want to I want people to get rescues. Of course, get rescues. Please get rescues if you can't. However, I also don't think you should shame people who say, well, it's a lot of work if they're an adult, Can I just get a puppy? Can I get a puppy?

I'd always get a puppy, rescue puppy. I've only ever had one dog, and I got him as a puppy. He was a big puppy.

I'd always get a puppy, rescue puppy. I've only ever had one dog, and I got him as a puppy. He was a big puppy.

But I'm also don't shame people generally because he's the brutal truth.

But I'm also don't shame people generally because he's the brutal truth.

I didn't make the dog. It exists already, so I'm going to have to get it right.

I didn't make the dog. It exists already, so I'm going to have to get it right.

Are you ready for a brutal true This.

Are you ready for a brutal true This.

Will make me cry?

Will make me cry?

Okay, here we go, No it won't, but I love you too.

Okay, here we go, No it won't, but I love you too.

Come on, there are not enough rescue dogs in the country, so a lot of people who say to you it's a rescue, not a rescue.

Come on, there are not enough rescue dogs in the country, so a lot of people who say to you it's a rescue, not a rescue.

Dog.

Dog.

That's some of them are rescued from breeders and pet shops.

That's some of them are rescued from breeders and pet shops.

Yeah, I remember that. Do you remember the days of gone Greensborough Plaza, popping on down to the pet shop levels, seven puppies in the window.

Yeah, I remember that. Do you remember the days of gone Greensborough Plaza, popping on down to the pet shop levels, seven puppies in the window.

Always a little cute white labrade.

Always a little cute white labrade.

That's grim. I'm glad those days are over. Are they over? Yeah?

That's grim. I'm glad those days are over. Are they over? Yeah?

I don't think pets have you? Can's they having pet shops?

I don't think pets have you? Can's they having pet shops?

Now? Fish?

Now? Fish?

You have fish and for some reason no one cares about the fish.

You have fish and for some reason no one cares about the fish.

Fish.

Fish.

Release them, they die, not into the ocean.

Release them, they die, not into the ocean.

Okay, well let's do that the same way that people are this don't make me cry, okay, the same way people are obsessed with dolphins.

Okay, well let's do that the same way that people are this don't make me cry, okay, the same way people are obsessed with dolphins.

Right, this is dolphin friendly tuina, but they don't give a fuck about the tuna that's actually dead inside the can that you're about to eat.

Right, this is dolphin friendly tuina, but they don't give a fuck about the tuna that's actually dead inside the can that you're about to eat.

Like we do know, there's a hierarchy of.

Like we do know, there's a hierarchy of.

People, good women with dolphin tattoos. You know, there's no girl around the tuna tattoo, And if it is, you'll never get to see it. Some girl up there on the Gold Coast with the tuna driving over a sun in the lower back area.

People, good women with dolphin tattoos. You know, there's no girl around the tuna tattoo, And if it is, you'll never get to see it. Some girl up there on the Gold Coast with the tuna driving over a sun in the lower back area.

All right, are you ready for possibly the most Okay, I'm not saying this is a holiday for everyone. Yeah, in fact, I'm going to say it's a holiday for nobody.

All right, are you ready for possibly the most Okay, I'm not saying this is a holiday for everyone. Yeah, in fact, I'm going to say it's a holiday for nobody.

But the things that people think of.

But the things that people think of.

In this modern world are quite incredible, quite incredible.

In this modern world are quite incredible, quite incredible.

This is a podcast.

This is a podcast.

Is it your mum's house?

Is it your mum's house?

On what I'm about to play you?

On what I'm about to play you?

Oh?

Oh?

And they are going to bring they should be travel agents.

And they are going to bring they should be travel agents.

Because this is the most incredible I'm gonna be honest.

Because this is the most incredible I'm gonna be honest.

It's an adventure holiday.

It's an adventure holiday.

Well, this is it for you.

Well, this is it for you.

We found that you can pay a Russian company to take you out on a boat and hunt Somali pirates. Is that something you would be interested in, like to go shoot a mkiller.

We found that you can pay a Russian company to take you out on a boat and hunt Somali pirates. Is that something you would be interested in, like to go shoot a mkiller.

Well, here's the thing, it's just rolling the dice.

Well, here's the thing, it's just rolling the dice.

So what it is?

So what it is?

Do they know that the Somali pirates have guns that can shoot back?

Do they know that the Somali pirates have guns that can shoot back?

Well, you know your Russians are wild, bro. So what they do is you gotta pay between seventy five hundred and I think twelve thousand dollars to go on a boat that will pass through the street that usually.

Well, you know your Russians are wild, bro. So what they do is you gotta pay between seventy five hundred and I think twelve thousand dollars to go on a boat that will pass through the street that usually.

Has they play Russian roulette while.

Has they play Russian roulette while.

And you just have their like a fifty caliber and like an RPG, Like if you see one letter rip.

And you just have their like a fifty caliber and like an RPG, Like if you see one letter rip.

What this is the most insane?

What this is the most insane?

Is that the most incredible, the most incredible.

Is that the most incredible, the most incredible.

And we do know the Russians are built differently.

And we do know the Russians are built differently.

You know.

You know.

You can always see them cuddling beers and we're like people.

You can always see them cuddling beers and we're like people.

Well I'm sorry, Yeah, hugging a bear is quite different to it, you know.

Well I'm sorry, Yeah, hugging a bear is quite different to it, you know.

But what I'm saying is that they run towards, okay, things that we would normally run away from.

But what I'm saying is that they run towards, okay, things that we would normally run away from.

Sure, hello to my sister in law, But who is she?

Sure, hello to my sister in law, But who is she?

Russian?

Russian?

Half Russian, half Russian, quarter Russian? Something Russian Russian which he grew Russia.

Half Russian, half Russian, quarter Russian? Something Russian Russian which he grew Russia.

Anyway, the Russian?

Anyway, the Russian?

Who listens to the buck up? So I'll ask them.

Who listens to the buck up? So I'll ask them.

The Russians are like, incredible, But to do that?

The Russians are like, incredible, But to do that?

Who went?

Who went?

And And also then those things he was saying, weapons.

And And also then those things he was saying, weapons.

Yeah, I don't. This is gun something guns, psycho, you.

Yeah, I don't. This is gun something guns, psycho, you.

Can go shoot and you know what I'd saying, You know what I'd be saying, I'm the captain, now.

Can go shoot and you know what I'd saying, You know what I'd be saying, I'm the captain, now.

Please the gunsates and they're vicious.

Please the gunsates and they're vicious.

I've never gotten over this.

I've never gotten over this.

Now.

Now.

What comedians will never tell you is that most comedians a couple of times a year do the cruise ship gigs because they pay great.

What comedians will never tell you is that most comedians a couple of times a year do the cruise ship gigs because they pay great.

And it's fun everyone has fun on board.

And it's fun everyone has fun on board.

You know, you get teased and you know it's looked upon as you know, what's wrong with your career you're doing cruise ships. But having said that, everyone has a good time. I could not believe this that the first time years ago I did my first one.

You know, you get teased and you know it's looked upon as you know, what's wrong with your career you're doing cruise ships. But having said that, everyone has a good time. I could not believe this that the first time years ago I did my first one.

Where was it to What they do is you'll love this.

Where was it to What they do is you'll love this.

They don't technically go anywhere. So the three or four day cruises that Australia does a lot of, you just go out so far that you hit international waters, open the casino.

They don't technically go anywhere. So the three or four day cruises that Australia does a lot of, you just go out so far that you hit international waters, open the casino.

And drink and drink at duty free price.

And drink and drink at duty free price.

Just do whatever they need to do in the international waters, do a couple of laps and then pop back in a couple of dames. That's most of them legal again think you need the cash. So what I could not get over the first time I ever got on a cruise ship is I looked at these things on the side where you can walk around.

Just do whatever they need to do in the international waters, do a couple of laps and then pop back in a couple of dames. That's most of them legal again think you need the cash. So what I could not get over the first time I ever got on a cruise ship is I looked at these things on the side where you can walk around.

The deck the deck.

The deck the deck.

I don't watch below decks, know what it's called. They had these big hose things and I was like, oh, for a fire So I said, no, for pirates. What do you mean? Every single cruise ship is equipped with these water water that they can they can shoot pirate ships if they were to get popping out of the Brisbane for a couple of days. And you're telling me there's water guns for pirates, isn't so insane?

I don't watch below decks, know what it's called. They had these big hose things and I was like, oh, for a fire So I said, no, for pirates. What do you mean? Every single cruise ship is equipped with these water water that they can they can shoot pirate ships if they were to get popping out of the Brisbane for a couple of days. And you're telling me there's water guns for pirates, isn't so insane?

All right?

All right?

So I've actually seen them use those water cannons. So they suck water out of the ocean obviously, and then they just spray it at great four some velocity.

So I've actually seen them use those water cannons. So they suck water out of the ocean obviously, and then they just spray it at great four some velocity.

But you know where I see they bought in water for it.

But you know where I see they bought in water for it.

Everyone we got to truck it in.

Everyone we got to truck it in.

But no, because I think when we were in lockdown and we were in Italy and we do this thing where we'd watch movies with the kids, and one of the things we did was called the crying game, which was great. So we'd watch sad movies and see who cried first. It was always me and Artie, our number three, whereas Yarni, the youngest, we called him Captain Stonehart, never cried anyway. But we'd also just watch strange movies. And because there were Sunday and I were out numbered by the boys, we ended up watching boy films.

But no, because I think when we were in lockdown and we were in Italy and we do this thing where we'd watch movies with the kids, and one of the things we did was called the crying game, which was great. So we'd watch sad movies and see who cried first. It was always me and Artie, our number three, whereas Yarni, the youngest, we called him Captain Stonehart, never cried anyway. But we'd also just watch strange movies. And because there were Sunday and I were out numbered by the boys, we ended up watching boy films.

Okay, and one of the films though, no.

Okay, and one of the films though, no.

Not cry films, just boy films as well as the crying films. We love the crying films.

Not cry films, just boy films as well as the crying films. We love the crying films.

We watched that film where Tom Hanks is on the.

We watched that film where Tom Hanks is on the.

Boat captain Phillips.

Boat captain Phillips.

Yes, I am the captain.

Yes, I am the captain.

Now true story? What all a true story? What it's a true story? Anyway that it's a true story. And I don't think so it's a true story. I'll bet money on it. That's a completely true story. Good. The guy that plays the head pirate, he was so really I think he got nominated for an Oscar for that.

Now true story? What all a true story? What it's a true story? Anyway that it's a true story. And I don't think so it's a true story. I'll bet money on it. That's a completely true story. Good. The guy that plays the head pirate, he was so really I think he got nominated for an Oscar for that.

He was absolutely brilliant.

He was absolutely brilliant.

He's a Somali guy and he's the one that has enticed me into thinking about taking this whole.

He's a Somali guy and he's the one that has enticed me into thinking about taking this whole.

Turned dark hair as a compliment. Yes, true story, true story.

Turned dark hair as a compliment. Yes, true story, true story.

True story. Tom Hanks used to be a boat captain.

True story. Tom Hanks used to be a boat captain.

So I feel very controversial opinion here, Oh here we go. Actually I'm up until that movie. I've always found Tom Hanks very overrated.

So I feel very controversial opinion here, Oh here we go. Actually I'm up until that movie. I've always found Tom Hanks very overrated.

Yeah me too. I don't think that's controversial.

Yeah me too. I don't think that's controversial.

I just find it. And also, you know he's I just find him in everything.

I just find it. And also, you know he's I just find him in everything.

Out over here. Okay, Well, I just red shoes, That's all I'm going to I.

Out over here. Okay, Well, I just red shoes, That's all I'm going to I.

Will never not laugh at him getting COVID first and with.

Will never not laugh at him getting COVID first and with.

Really weird with his wife.

Really weird with his wife.

Yeah, they were just going about their business and all of a sudden Tom Hanks, what what's COVID? Very funny. I've never found him that. Yeah, whatever, I never find him. What's what I'm looking for? I never see him disappear into a role, is what I'm trying to say. But in that movie, that's the first time he can act. Yeah, he was little good. Yeah, he was going to give movie tips from movies that are ten years old.