Kate spent 24 years as a NSW police officer, right in the thick of trauma, chaos, and humanity at its messiest. And instead of hardening into someone cold or shut down… she made a conscious decision to stay kind. 

We got into trauma, coping, why so many people in high stress roles lose themselves, and what actually helped her not just survive it, but come out the other side still intact. Kate talks about creativity literally switches off anxiety in the brain… and what avenues she uses to practice it. 

We also explored the not-so-comfortable stuff. The people we struggle to forgive. The tension between gratitude and resentment. The reality that sometimes you don’t get closure… you just choose who you’re going to be anyway.

This one’s about doing the work. Owning your reactions. And choosing kindness, even when it would be way easier not to.

Oh, and 'Hey Siri... thanks for the intro' (that'll make sense when you tune in!)

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