In this episode of Open For Business, we speak with Koh Cha-Ly, Founder and Chief Executive Officer at UrbanMetry, a data analytics company in Malaysia that provides AI-powered solutions to help cities and governments analyse large amounts of city data through their proprietary algorithms. Also with us is Chloe Yiin, Product Growth Manager of Urbanwave or Urban NX, a home co-ownership program run by UrbanMetry to help people upcycle homes in well-loved neighbourhoods by providing cash for renovations. We discuss their journey into the AI space with Urbanwave and how it works as well as how they aim to create a sustainable path to home ownership.

In this episode of Open For Business, we speak with Koh Cha-Ly, Founder and Chief Executive Officer at UrbanMetry, a data analytics company in Malaysia that provides AI-powered solutions to help cities and governments analyse large amounts of city data through their proprietary algorithms. Also with us is Chloe Yiin, Product Growth Manager of Urbanwave or Urban NX, a home co-ownership program run by UrbanMetry to help people upcycle homes in well-loved neighbourhoods by providing cash for renovations. We discuss their journey into the AI space with Urbanwave and how it works as well as how they aim to create a sustainable path to home ownership.

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UrbanMetry: How Are They Simplifying Home Ownership With UrbanWave.ai? 

Gurcharanvir Singh built his company because he had a dream about washing shoes.



Three years later, Guchi Cuci is a highly profitable, 5-figure home-based shoe cleaning service that has doubled its revenue every single year since inception. Operating entirely without commercial rent, Gurcharanvir leverages on organic TikTok virality to acquire customers, specifically targeting the "lazy or busy" demographic. Even more impressively, he manages this growing operation alongside a full-time career as an architect, a part-time job at a gym, and training for KL Fashion Week.



Gurcharanvir joins us to dissect the exact metrics behind his micro-business. We also look at the unit economics of pricing a service at the cost of a meal, the challenge of calculating Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) through social media algorithms, and the capital expenditure required to transition from cleaning sneakers to detailing cars.

Gurcharanvir Singh built his company because he had a dream about washing shoes.Three years later, Guchi Cuci is a highly profitable, 5-figure home-based shoe cleaning service that has doubled its revenue every single year since inception. Operating entirely without commercial rent, Gurcharanvir leverages on organic TikTok virality to acquire customers, specifically targeting the "lazy or busy" demographic. Even more impressively, he manages this growing operation alongside a full-time career as an architect, a part-time job at a gym, and training for KL Fashion Week.Gurcharanvir joins us to dissect the exact metrics behind his micro-business. We also look at the unit economics of pricing a service at the cost of a meal, the challenge of calculating Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) through social media algorithms, and the capital expenditure required to transition from cleaning sneakers to detailing cars.

I Dreamt of Washing Shoes (And It Made Me 5 Figures)

For years, the Malaysian property market has been dominated by a legacy "discovery-only" portal model. Real estate agents are forced to pay RM3,000 to RM8,000 in upfront annual subscriptions just to list properties, with zero performance guarantees. The result? Agents receive high volumes of raw traffic, but only 2% to 3% actually convert into real appointments.



Enter MyRumahBaru (MRB). Co-founded by Melvin Soh, Ching Yaw Hao, and Anthony Chin, MRB is an AI-powered property platform designed to destroy the traditional subscription model. Instead of charging for listings, MRB provides unlimited free listings and utilises an AI chatbot to converse with, pre-qualify, and financially vet buyers (including Debt Service Ratio calculations). Agents and developers are only charged a flat RM200 fee when a verified buyer actually shows up for an appointment. This model has successfully driven buyer show-up rates to over 90%.



Melvin joins us to dissect the hard metrics behind MRB's growth, the unit economics of a pay-per-performance marketplace, and why incumbent portals are structurally trapped from copying their technology.

For years, the Malaysian property market has been dominated by a legacy "discovery-only" portal model. Real estate agents are forced to pay RM3,000 to RM8,000 in upfront annual subscriptions just to list properties, with zero performance guarantees. The result? Agents receive high volumes of raw traffic, but only 2% to 3% actually convert into real appointments.Enter MyRumahBaru (MRB). Co-founded by Melvin Soh, Ching Yaw Hao, and Anthony Chin, MRB is an AI-powered property platform designed to destroy the traditional subscription model. Instead of charging for listings, MRB provides unlimited free listings and utilises an AI chatbot to converse with, pre-qualify, and financially vet buyers (including Debt Service Ratio calculations). Agents and developers are only charged a flat RM200 fee when a verified buyer actually shows up for an appointment. This model has successfully driven buyer show-up rates to over 90%.Melvin joins us to dissect the hard metrics behind MRB's growth, the unit economics of a pay-per-performance marketplace, and why incumbent portals are structurally trapped from copying their technology.

The PropTech Rebellion: How MyRumahBaru is Changing Real Estate

Fukuro Malaysia was founded in 2019 to fill the "missing middle" in the kitchenware market. Co-founders Daryl Lai and Kevin Lau recognised that local brands were trapped in a race to the bottom on price and quality, while international brands dominated the expensive, premium tier. Applying an FMCG approach to kitchen essentials, they bootstrapped Fukuro into a highly profitable brand generating RM14 million in annual revenue, with a presence in over 1,300 offline retail stores across Malaysia.



Daryl joins us in the studio to dissect the hard metrics behind Fukuro’s growth. We also discuss treating physical shelf space as a customer acquisition channel, the strategy for protecting unit margins against multinational competitors, and the roadmap to hitting RM50 million in annual revenue organically.

Fukuro Malaysia was founded in 2019 to fill the "missing middle" in the kitchenware market. Co-founders Daryl Lai and Kevin Lau recognised that local brands were trapped in a race to the bottom on price and quality, while international brands dominated the expensive, premium tier. Applying an FMCG approach to kitchen essentials, they bootstrapped Fukuro into a highly profitable brand generating RM14 million in annual revenue, with a presence in over 1,300 offline retail stores across Malaysia.Daryl joins us in the studio to dissect the hard metrics behind Fukuro’s growth. We also discuss treating physical shelf space as a customer acquisition channel, the strategy for protecting unit margins against multinational competitors, and the roadmap to hitting RM50 million in annual revenue organically.

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