WE TOLD YOU FIRST — Meghan Markle & Gwyneth Paltrow Team Up. Andy Cohen Forces Housewife To Address Lesbian Rumors. Gene Hackman Family Hire Private Investigator.

Published Mar 27, 2025, 12:33 PM

Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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Rob Shuter was the first to report something was brewing between Meghan Markle and Gwyneth Paltrow — and now it’s confirmed: the duchess and the Goop queen are officially cooking up a collaboration. Andy pressuring Kyle to speak openly for the first time about the long-running rumors that she’s romantically involved with country singer Morgan Wade. The family of the late Gene Hackman is refusing to stay silent following the shocking deaths of the Oscar-winning actor and his wife, Betsy Arakawa

Rob is joined by the charming Marc Lupo. Don't forget to vote in today's poll on Twitter at @naughtynicerob or in our Facebook group.

 

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Yeah, welcome to the Naughty Venicia and your house to Rob Shooter. And it's Thursday, which means our friend Mark Lebo joins us. Say, Lupi, Loui there, Hi rog, Hey, my friend. We've got a busy show today, a packed show, and we're even gonna pat ourselves a little bit on the back to day. I don't like to do that too much, but we have to do it when it is deserved, and it is today, So let's jump in. What time is it, my friends? It is a d time big story at the top of the show. So we told you first, Meghan Martle did reach out to Gwenneth Paltrow. Remember I told you that Meghan was going to reach out. Inside has told me that after Gwyneth was kain and she was kind with a little bit of a sting. They asked Gwyneth what she thought about Meghan expanding into this life style division. Gwyneth was sort of nice, not totally nice, but was like, you know, we should, We've all got the right to try. She said something like that. Well, shortly afterwards she got a note from Meghan. Then Gwyneth invited her over to her house and get this, this is really juicy, Mark. So Meghan turned up expecting to meet Gwyneth Paltrow and have a little chat, have a cup of tea and a slice of cake. It was Gwenneth's idea to film the video, and when Meghan walked in, Gwenneth already was in full glab, hair, makeup, everything to perfection. She had a little camera crew there, she had those ring lights. Like I want to say it was an ambush because I think Megan very much enjoyed this. There's no doubt Meghan likes the spotlight. So she's not a really private person, and so when she turned up there, she was, I'm told by insiders, a little taken back, but I think she's learnt from this that Gwenneth will never let an opportunity to promote Goop, to promote her business go to one side. She's in its Megan's turning up there definitely was going to be a selfie. There was going to be a photograph. However, if you look at this video, Mark, it's really slick. This is not you and me at Bottino's with an iPhone. This has lights, this is edited, This is glorious. Just in the composition of this video is so so delicious. I'm told even though it was staged, it was still true. They did meet, they did have a chat, and now they're talking about a collaboration. What do you think about all this? And are you surprised that it was pushy Gwyneth that told Megan really what she wanted her to do.

The moment I saw this video, I literally screamed and then also immediately thought of you, because you know, we love Gwyneth. She is a pure wizard. Just beyond Gwyneth, you know, there's Megan Markin who's also a pure wizard. And I just love that they came together and that Gwyneth is kind of not passing the baton, but she's sharing because I remember it years ago, Remember when Gwyneth was kind of introducing Goop and Martha Stewart was kind of territorial and didn't want it was she was not There was no video, there's no video like this with mark the Stewart, and so I think it's really sweet. I think, you know, Meghan, I would imagine she shut up. She knew there was something was going to happen on this. You're not going to waste this opportunity, right.

They were definitely going to take a picture. And Meghan did not turn up with a hair pulled back at the scruntry. She's clearly got hair and makeup on the hairs done, but she wasn't ready for a photo shoot. She wasn't ready for a video shoot. But Gwen than a team. I don't want to say ambush, that's too much, but gwenever, the team was like, oh, if Megan's coming over, let's come up with this little stunt. And I'm even told there was a writer involved because it's quite scripted, like and if you notice, Meghan doesn't really speak, it's it's all Gwenneth. So Gweneth has her lies, she had her motivation, she knew how she's an actress. They're both actresses. I absolutely screamed when I saw it, and I hit the phone so hard because I wanted to know every detail. How did this happen? Who called? Who? Who turned up? Where did they part the car? Did they walk up the dry way? Did they bring some flowers? Who decided to do this video? Like if you and me were out Mark and we were famous and we had a few drinks at Patinaz. We might be like, oh, let's come up with a funny video, but it probably wouldn't be that good because we're not the writers of sketches like this is really well produced. You've been a producer Mark for a long time. This isn't an accidental video. When you saw it, you know, combad look at the light, look at it. Even if it was professionally done.

Of course, it felt like watching a movie when you were waiting, you know, for the end in this big surprise finale. It was just such a it was so great execution of this. I would imagine Gwyneth has really smart people working for her right for a group, because she does, you know, it's become such a successful company, and I would imagine they've probably thought immediately, let's jump on this opportunity and not only getting compressed for us, but then to create this relationship we can you know.

It's great use in the future. Yeah, yeah, we're all talking about it. And even though Gwenneth is being kind here, she's being kind in a Gwenneth way, which means it helps herself. Like now we've got goop back into the conversation that is slightly casually reminding us that group is much more successful than Markle Sparkle like she's doing much. Gweneth, against the odds, against the odds, has turned this company that we all laughed at Mark we get it into a billion dollar enterprise. Meghan, I think if Gwenneth is gonna let you in and she will do a certain extent, I would take a notepad and a pen and write everything down, because you are going to learn a masterclass in not only branding and marketing, but how to really make a successful company. There's no doubt that Gwenneth did it. Now, a naughty, a cheeky friend of mine, Donnie asked me, do you think Meghan might go into the adult pleasure category like Gweneth has. Gweneth sells certain things on her website to make you very very tige. What do you think? You know what I'm talking about. I'm not going to say anymore. Do you think do you think Megan could go down that route? Well?

I think Meghan still has to figure out who exactly she is, and that's why I was thinking maybe she used to still, you know, read the copy of the forward answer and figure out who she is in four words, because her brand has to represent the person that she's becoming. So maybe that all at the narrative, if she decides it's part of her her shtick. But I'm not sure exactly what the brand's going to be.

I don't know what it is. Do you know what's really selling well for her? Her clothing. So she started up this website where you can shop Meghan and the clothing that she wore on the TV series. She looks fabulous. As a friend of mine said, I did giggle. It wasn't a cooking show, it was a fashion show. She loved it. She changed her out fits more often than she changed her eggs and flour and bacon soda like she every time she went to the fridge came back in a different sweater. I loved it. And so she's put all those sweaters, all those clothing up online and it's selling quite well. So maybe that's an indication that what we want from Meghan is fashion. It's Victoria Beckham is Jessica Simpson. Maybe we don't want jam and household goods and honey. Maybe we don't want that from the Duchess. Maybe we want a fashion brand. It's interesting because I think the public. The market ultimately tells you what they want. I had a very different vision for this show when we started mark and I started to see what did really well, what really popped, what people really enjoyed, And that's the path that I went down. In many ways, the Naughties programmed this podcast because I know immediately the stories they don't care about the story. We all pretend we don't care about Meghan or Kim Kardashian, but we always listen to those shows always get the highest rateing. So Meghan, don't be silly here, listen to Gwenneth. Well, also listen to your viewers, to people that are buying your product, because they'll tell you what they want. Which brings us to our pohole question of the day. So, as I told you first, Gwenneth Peltraw and Meghan Markel are officially cooking up a collaboration. Who benefits more from this? Is it Goop? Is it the Duchess? Who do you think benefits more? I think they both benefit, but someone always does, just a little dearly tony bit bitter. Who do you think is going to benefit more? Here? Meghan or Gweneth Haga? Vote on Twitter page I had naughty nice for ama Facebook page is naughty yr zip and be sure to check back tomorrow to here your results. Heylopy. What are you working on? All? Right? So?

Annie Cohen has reportedly forced Kyle Richards to address.

The lesbian.

Address for lesbian rumors and the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. Of course, of course, so multiple insiders are telling us that the upcoming Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion is nothing short of brutal, with any pressure in Kyle to speak openly for the first time about the long running rumors that she's romantically involved with country singer Morgan Wade. Now, a source close to the production has revealed that Kyle knew the stakes, that these reunions and these are essentially additions for the next season and if more end or to support him, you're done. And Kyle brought her agging from their now infamous music video appearances to their globe tried and getaways, and Andy reportedly grills Kyle on every detailed relationship.

What do you think I think that this is what these reunions are. We've known this now for a decade. It's an audition for the next season. Yeah, and if you let Andy down on the reunion, you're not coming back. And let's remember too, Andy does have a habit of making everything about himself. This is the Andy Cohen Show. This is two hours with Andy. It's not really about the ladies, it's about Andy. So Andy insists that you put on a show. And remember, because everybody at this special is on his payroll. It changes the dalam, the dynamic mak. If you and me sat down with the housewife and asked the questions Andy asked, they would slap us or walk off the set. They would not answer. However, Andy can ask really intimate questions and they've got to bright their lip and they've got to grin and bury it, and they've got to give him an answer. So he really comes at this in a very powerful position. Lisa Renner recently said, it's weird because he acts like daddy and all the women around him are like children, and they were vying for his attention and he sort of exploits that a little bit. They say, but it does create good TV. You know, I do not have much sympathy here for the ladies because they've all seen the show, as they've seen the reunions. When you sign up to do this show, you know what you're in for. Forcing somebody to talk about something they don't want to talk about. Never a good idea, but do they not want to talk about it? Mark, They are on a reality show. She did appear in a music video. They are being photographed holding hands. I think they're protesting in a Ben Affleck type of way that they don't appreciate the press. That made me laugh. Mark on the cover of GQ. Ben Affleck said he's a much more private person than j Loo. He's on the cover of GQ talking about being private. That's the same with the housework. So I don't have much sympathy here, but I do know Mark. You know this too. They've got to sing to keep their jobs.

They really do. And I think this is something we talk about all the time in this podcast. You just can't have it both ways. So if you want to be on a reality show and you want to sell your products, whatever you got as tell us what's going on in your life, you just have.

To You just have to do it. Okay, Moving along, people are saying that Harry was very naive. He's just quit this charity. There's a lot of scandal. It's a beloved charity in Africa, and it's been called some horrible things sexist, racist, misogynist, and so Harry has left. However, Pallace insiders are worried what is he going to do next? So insiders are telling me that Harry just believes anything he's told and if you flatter him, he's in. And that's the problem. He's surrounding himself with people who adore him, not people who protect him. So this charity was started back in two thousand and six years ago. It was focused on his mom, on her amazing work with HIV, with with countries that really needed help. But it's gonna ry and now inside as a worried that Harry could become the new Duke of York with his ties to Jeffrey Epstein. So it's interesting, Kirk. A lot of famous people have shady people trying to get into their lives. I've seen this firsthand. The more successful you are, the more people you attract, and the more people you attract, the more good and bad people you attract. There are a lot of billionaires, really rich people who would love to be in Harry's world. This happened to his uncle, Prince Andrew. Harry doesn't have people around him to protect him. And if you flatter Harry, if I was a shady Russian billionaire, I'm sure I could get a meeting with Harry. And that's what the Palace is really worried about. Just bad judgment. What do you think?

Yeah, you know, I think the story has more we realize because the chair of the of the Foundation came out and made a kind of a vague statement suggesting that people are above the law, and there's building and misogyny there, and I think it was kind of pointed at Harry. We're not exactly sure, and so you know, I would imagine, yes, Rob, I think fame can be very isolating, and I think when you're isolated and you don't have people to count on that you can trust, you do fall into these traps of being around people that could take advantage of you or to do you the wrong direction.

And it does.

In the last few years, feel like Harry's life has completely fallen apart and its continuing to spiral. And I'm worried for him because he's been in a bad place for many years and he's this foundation was created, you know, in honor of his mom. It's been a part of his adult this entire adult life, and now suddenly he's no longer a part of it. I wonder what and how does he feel his mental state in this situation.

It's awful. When they left the family, I think it's full five years ago now, Disney, Spotify, all these major companies want you to be part of them, and they don't anymore. And when you take those away, when you take the legitimate outlets away, you just left with the sketchy ones. He left with sketchy, sketchy people. It's something that the Palace is really really worried about. And I speak to a lot of sources in the Palace and often they get a little bit of pleasure out of Harry and Megan's falling down. They like a little bit of drama there. But this time they're not laughing. They really really did sound concerned. Okay, quickly, before we go to break, Teresa Judici from the Real Housewives of Jersey is back in trouble, but this time she is not going to prison. Tell me what I'm talking about.

This is unbelievable. So Teresa Jude is maybe Bravo's Ultimate comeback Queen. But behind the scenes, so as we're saying, she is preparing for yet another far so with her husband Lewis Louis Roulas owing more than two point six million dollars in bad cashes, and now Teresa herself has been hit with a three hundred thousand dollars lean. The pressure is mounting and fast. The source of saying she's panicking and that she's been through this before. But she's not going down for anyone, not again, not even for Louis.

She's going to turn on him. Turn She's going to turn on him. Remember she went to jail last time. I think it was in twenty and fifteen. She's not doing this again. Louis. If you're listening, a Lola loolo, you in trouble, You in danger, You in danger? All okay, We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nasham your hosto imp shoot you with their dear friend Mark Lupo, Hey, LUPI, let's get to the polls. Last year, we talked about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift be spotted on a secret Montana get Away. I'm told they're looking at homes there. Our question was quite simple, will they move there? What do you think? Eighty percent said yes. A lot of celebrities really like Montana. David Letterman is there. I think justin Timberlake is there. Kevin Costner's there. It's just so physically beautiful. But it's also isolated, and so you don't have to worry about Papa Ratci. Although if Taylor and Travis move their Mark, I think the Papa rad you might move to. We might set up a Montana office of The Naughty, but I show a bureau just for Taylor.

I might have to move there, my son and help.

It's your gig. Mark, don't forget to vote on today's Paul good A Twitter page at Naughty Nice rom Facebook page is Norty yours him. I'm sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results are. Now it's time for her Noisiest of the Day A. Oh no, we've just lost Marcus. My kiss connection has cut out. But don't worry. I'll do the nicest of the day, and nicest of the day are and nicest of the day is Sarah Jessica Parker who's turned sixty. Gosh, she looks fantastic celebrating with the only guests that really matter to her. She knows a lot of celebrities, but who manters to Sarah her family. So Sarah might be one of Hollywood's most iconic styles. But when it came to her sixtieth birthday, a milestone birthday, the Sex and the City legend opted for something more intimate. She didn't want the glitz and the glam. She wanted her family. Sauces tell us that Sarah didn't want anything flashy. Sarah is deeply private and happiest when she's with her family. Now we do know that some of her co stars, Kristen Davis and Cynthia Nixon all scent flowers and notes Kim Cattrell did not, there should be no surprise there. It's a rare kind of star. She really is one that does not need the spotlight to feel seen in and nicest of the day, and now are naughtiest of the day, naughty, naughty, naughty. Gene Hackman's family suspects foul play and having hired a private investigator, so the family of the late Gene Hackman is refusing to stay silent. Following the shocking death of the oscar winner and his wife, Betsy, Sauces say they've lost faith in the authorities and this just doesn't add up and it feels like somebody's trying to cover something up. And Jean's door will not rest until the truth is revealed. Now, adding to their suspicions is a new conversation with the hairdresser, Betsy's longtime hairdresser, who described her as frazzled and concerned about a strange man who had allegedly been following the couple in the months leading up to their death. Now a private investigator has been brought on to try and get to the bottom of this. A lot of mistakes have been made by the authorities here. The family seems to have lost faith of a nautiust of the day. Okay, let's end with a moment of rob ruby rub good, rub good rub. Confidence isn't given. It's built. Confidence doesn't just show up one day, and it's not something you're even born with or something you stumble into. Confidence is created, and it's created through small, consistent things that you do every single day. It's waking up when you said you would it's making a bit, it's keeping the promises you made to yourself. It's showing up even when you are uncomfortable, because every time you follow through, you send a message I can trust me. And that's where real confidence comes from, not from the big winds, but from the tiny daily victories that nobody else sees. You've got this naughties. Hey, thank you so much for listening to the Naughty but Nice with Rob and Mark shall I'm sorry we lost Mark for the last five minutes. We are a production of Elvis Duran and iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts wherever you listen, leave us a review if you can. They really really do help. And remember all together now, if you're going to be naughty, you've got to be let me hear you nice. Take care everybody, Pit Pip