Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are keeping things cozy — and snowy — on yet another undercover escape to Montana. But this time, they weren’t alone. In what promises to be one of the most emotional and revealing celebrity documentaries of the year, The Carters: Hurts to Love You gives fans an unfiltered, gut-wrenching look inside one of pop culture’s most tragic families. Pedro Pascal wants everyone to calm down — he’s not dating Jennifer Aniston… at least not yet.
Donny Meacham joins Rob! Don't forget to vote in today's poll on Twitter at @naughtynicerob or in our Facebook group.
Advice. Oh sure, Lane, We welcome to the Naughty Vanni Show. Your has strong shooter and it's Wednesday, which means dear friend Donnie matshrom John says, hey, Donnie, are you there, hello, level level. Last week, your mommy was in town.
She was, she really was.
We had an amazing, amazing, amazing time. This is the thing, I know, Look, everybody.
Not everybody.
I think that a lot of people are. You know, it's tricky with parents. Parents are tricky.
Yes, it's just something.
About this visit.
I just looked at her and I think, you know, more people could come to this realization, like she's her own person.
Mm hmmm, Yes, she's my mom.
She's there are parents, but they're also their own people for their own people, and I just like, maybe cut them a little more.
So maybe I think that's a really good philosophy on everybody. It doesn't need to be a parent, who doesn't need to be a friend. Anybody you meet, they're their own person, and you don't know what's going on in their lives, even if you think you do, even if they're a relative, you know probably ten percent of their literally the only person that knows one hundred percent is that you is you and the same with everybody else. So let's all have a day where we can't put everybody we meet a day with her a little bit of extra slack. Okay, let's jump into my show What time is it? My friends? It's detailed, big story at the top of the show. So, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey was spotted on a secret date in Montana with Aaron Andrews, who I just love. I don't know how I really know her because we're from such different worlds. She is a sports anchor. I think she does the NFL and all this other stuff. I became friendly with her when she was one of the hosts of Dancing with the Stars and we started to have a text relationship and I think I met her for drinks one night. Really cool person. Well now she's hanging out with Travis and Taylor Swift. Now Aaron does take some credit for pushing them together as a couple. She's those Travis obviously from football, and she encouraged Taylor to date him. She did not know Taylor, but she went live with a joke at the time saying you got to go on a date with this guy. Well, she did, and now they're happy, and now the three of them are hanging out. But I have a little exclusive here, Donnie. I am told that Travis and Taylor have been looking at homes in Montana. It's very very private. There's no paparazzi and there's no pressure. Just the mountains, good foods, close friends. I'm told that this is their happy place. Very interesting.
What do you think that is interesting? Of course, I'm wondering if you knew Aaron from because she's a date Aaron Rodgers. That's right, And don't you have like a you.
Knew Aaron or a little bit? Yes, I don't want to give too much away, so thank you for doing that. Don Yes, I really like her and I think too, she's a good, good person to be around this couple. She's cool, she doesn't leak secrets. She's a really cool, sweet, smart person, and I like this Montana. Tell us Kanye, don't say that I've gone off it now. He does really into Montana and lots of celebrities there. I think justin Timberlake's there. I think Kevin Costner has a home there. It's meant to be just beautiful and it is a little bit off the beaten track. So if you want to get away, it's so interesting. We have no photographs of this entertain If Taylor and Travis and Eron Andrews went out for dinner in New York or LA or Chicago, we'd have pictures. We'd have hundreds of pictures. We have no pictures. So it's actually working for them. The problem that Taylor's going to have is that if Taylor does move to Montana, then the paparazzi will move too. I feel as if she's almost too famous to get away from from from this glare, this spotlight. But good luck to her. And I think that these two in Montana having a regular life as possible, I think that's a good thing.
What do you think, Yeah, I mean you'll see some bison strapped up with a GoPro running around Montana just to try and get some footage of Taylor and Travis. Seriously, because they know paparazzi are gonna sit out there in the cold in the mountains. It's just gonna be like, all right, take this bison, slap a GoPro on it. We're gonna get some footage.
You might be right, You might be right. Which brings us to that pole question of the day. Taylor and Travis have been spotted on a secret getaway in Montana. Will they move there? I'm told they are looking at highs is what do you think? Will they move there? Hey? Go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob. That Facebook page is Naughty gussib and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Donny, what are you working on?
So there's a new heartbreaking documentary called The Carters Hurts to Love You. It's so sad it, you know, lifts the veil in the family tragedy, addiction and the dark side of fame. It's gonna premiere on Paramount Plus on April fifteenth. It's narrated by the sister, her Angel Carter, and you know, she kind of goes on to talk about it and she was like five kids and they're all that's left. It's just her and Nick, Nick from obviously the Backstree Boys. But I just I don't, I just I really am contemplated. Yes, the Carters have had a addiction runs in the family when they did that reality show, And I'm not misaken. Nick was not part of that reality show. But obviously Nick doesn't need the money, doesn't he's part of He's a backstree boy, like the man is loaded. I just it's hosted by the sister, which makes me obviously this is your got paid for it, and so I just I don't know. I just it bothers me that Nick gets roped into this so much because his last name is Carter.
Yeah, hey, what you're saying that the sister's clearly doing this for the money as well as helping people. She said that she's she wants to help people, and I'm sure I'm not sure that that motive, but also to she does not have the money that Aaron or Nick has, and so I get that making a living is something we all have to do. I think Nick's being a gentleman by being part of this. Although it's got to be cathartic. I'm told that this is not a sloppy, messy Wendy Williams type documentary. This is a really thoughtful, smart, smart documentary. And the fact that it's not airing on Bravo but it's on Paramount Plus tells us that it really is really, really a deep dive into the tragedy of this family, five kids and only two are left. Like they saw everything. They saw fame, glittering, glamorous red carpets, and they also saw addiction, they saw poverty, they saw suicide, they saw death. It's just an American tragedy, this family. I'm surprised this documentary has not been done before, in fact, it probably has, but Angel, this is the first time that Angel is participating. I'm told I've not seen it yet, Donnie, but I have friends who have. I'm told it's really heartmnching, it's really well done, it's really beautiful. It does not feel exploitative, which some of those documentaries can feel. And if Angel's earning a little money or a lot of money to do it, good for her. There's a lot of money in TV. I'd rather her get it than the big executives who run the company. And so I think this is all round a good idea. I do know from personal experience that if you have problems, talking about them normally helps. It always helps. I'm not sure if talking about them on camera helps. I've never done that, but I think really getting together, there's only two of them left, only two siblings left, that all they have. Maybe this can help build a bridge, build build a bridge between this really really dysfunctional family.
Yeah, well there is.
I want to say, it's on an investigative discovery idea, which I love, ID trust me, I love that true gram. But there's a documentary it's called The Rise and Fall of Nick and Aaron Carter, and that one is very exploitive. It's very just a lot of rumors.
And allegedly allegedly alleged, and you can.
Have a documentary entirely about allegedly and Aaron. We all knew, I mean Aaron died, I mean he died.
I knew, like I know him, he was, He was a troubled, troubled, troubled, troubled guy. It was heartbreaking, I think though, this is the first time we've seen a first hand account. This is not sources, This is not entertainment reporters, this is not talking heads. This is the family. And when you get the family to speak, it's not allegedly. It's on the record. This is what they think they were. There is their brother. I'm gonna gonna watch this one. I'm sure it's gonna be really emotional, but hopefully enlightening and maybe empowering to I am wishing this family the best. I just wish goodness now is they've had so many tragedies. I just want them to turn a corner. Hey, fingers crossed. Okay, moving along Pedro Pascal, who I love. I shot down the rumors that he's dating Jennifer Anderston. Have you listened to ysay show, We told you they were not dating. They went on a three hour meeting, a dinner together. It wasn't a date, but they were with other people too, It wasn't just the two of them. The internet excluded that they were a couple. He has told Entertainment tonight, Jennifer and I are very good friends. It was a fun Martini dinner, that's all. And he said he laughed about all this attention, saying that is her starlight and I'm just basking in it. He went on to say that he's aware of all the buzz. He's aware of all the rumors, and he said it was just dinner and it turned into a media firestorm. I spoke about this yesterday though, and I hit the phones again. His friends are telling me that it just is quite a private guy. We don't know very much about him, his dating history and so he would never date somebody like Jennifer. It's just too high profile. He probably likes that she's great, but this is something that jen has to consider.
Now.
When you date Jennifer Anderston, you become a tabloid fixture, and a lot of people don't want that in their lives. I feel bad for her. She doesn't on it in her life either, but she can't can't get rid of it. What do you think, Donna?
Yeah, the first I would love these two to be together, though, I mean, you think about it both. I mean, he is huh, he is dreamy, dream very dreamy. She's beautiful. Mean, she's Jennifer freaking understand. The thing about Pedro too, though, is he's open and very open about being very fluid mmm. And his you know, it's just you know, and what he wants, and it's all about the person and what he's attracted to. So I do also agree with you that Jennifer would be just so too much for him.
I feel bad. Yeah, And it's not saying she is too much. We're not disrespecting her. We love Jennifer. She's just become part of this tabloid story that she wants to get away from She does not like it herself, but she is that. I'm saying on ashow yesterday, Donnae that Kim Kardashian. I'm not comparing them because I know people will be angry about that, but there's something you can compare about their level of fame. Whenever Jennifer or Kim does something, think the world is going to know and it gets clicks. And even if you pretend you don't like them, and I do too, you do click it. I see on our podcast when I lead with Jennifer or a Kim's story, we get more listeners. Mega Markle's another one that's certainly in that bubble, and I don't think Pedro wants to be part of that. Probably understandably so, but too bad because they are adorable together all knowne. Let's be clear they are not together yet. D dumb okay. Moving along, Teresa Judici from The Real Housewives is in trouble with the law again. What has this messy, messy person done?
First of one of these housewives, pay your taxes. Pay your tax you hear me, pay your taxes. Theresa and her husband Luis Ruellis so her and Louise have not been buried that long they you know, they met after the husband kind of bounced the other husband bounced with you know, over support it. He says again, we are well he ran from her.
Let's let's be what it did.
So they got here with a tax bill and not just a little text book three million dollars. So but here's the thing, we'll break it down. Teresa ohs Teresa only ohs three hundred and three thousands, not how much, give it a break. But Louis, though, owns two point six million and on Louis, so obviously he has not been paying taxa since before he met Teresa. Before you hearing Teresa, but Teresa, you ain't paying your tax with either girl.
But isn't that something you add?
It's a mess, it's very titled. It's stealing from the rest of it. It makes me so angry inside is the saying it's Daja Brava. But unfortunately this will probably save her job on the show. They're thinking about what to do with this franchise. It's not doing so well any anymore in the ratings. But Teresa potentially going back to jail probably turns Bravo on. That's the sick world. Of the Housewives. We reward bad behavior and it drives me mad, and then we wonder why these women are just so awful. I can't supt it anymore. Ten years ago, I still loved the Housewives. I thought it was so funny and so cheeky. I think they're all awful people, don't you not? Maybe not all, But it's just this bad behavior. I guess if you want bad behavior on camera, you've got to expect it off camera. They're the same person, and so Teresa has not learned her lesson. You would think going to jail having your husband deported, you'd learn your lesson.
No, No, And it's just the mind bargling thing about it is is, look, I don't make that much money, and I pay my taxes.
I trust me.
I think I pay way too much in taxes, especially here in California. The California tax is incredibly high. But Teresa and then they flat their wealth. They have marse nice houses, but you're not doing.
Your cheating cheating. It makes me so mad because we have to do this. This is not optional. You don't get a tic, you have to pay your taxes. And for these people to be on social media lawnting character. It's rude, That's what it is. I'm really turned off. Okay, quickly before we get a break, Lisa Renner is saying she'll never ever be a real housewife ever again, and saying the time there was toxic and she gave her power away to Andy Cohen. So on her podcast, Lisa confessed that she stepped back into Andy's world. She went on his radio show and he sort of confronted her about what she'd said and all the tough, seing things, truthful things she'd said about being a housewife. And she said the minute she walked in, everything fell into an old troop where she became a little housewife and he became big daddy. And she said, I gave my power to Andy Cohen, who is my boss. And she said she did this it was like a little girl going back to a role that she played in her family. And she went on to say, this is how Andy runs that show. He runs it with an iron fist. She's not the first person to say that. Bethany has I think Nini Leaks has said that he's the top and he moves everybody around like it's a chessboard. Bethany called him tricky. I mean, I think here Andy is doing what he's probably paid to do to put on this really really messy show. But I think you can do it with some kindness, with some grace. Andy seems to enjoy having all this power over all these people.
Oh you know he does. You can tell if you watch during the show. Obviously Andy isn't there, you don't see him during the season, but you can tell on those reunions. It's like Daddy Andy is there and whatever he says, and he sometimes he's really disparaging to this he is down to them.
Yeah, he does. If he said those things. Yeah, so if we said those things to the housewives, they'd get up and walk out. They won't walk on him because he's paying their bills. They work for him. Just awful, Lisa. I'm glad you spoke out. Okay, we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Night Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter. Hey, let's get to the polls that the duh a Lash show. We talked about Jennifer Aniston and Pedro Pascal's three hour dinner together. They're just friends for now. But do you think they would make a great couple. Let's go and have a look. Ohifty percent said yes. Fifty percent said, now you're on the fence of this one. It's because her life is so big and so public and he is so private, very very complicated. Hey, don't forget to vote on today's pole. We'll go to our Twitter page at naughteen nice rob our Facebook pages Naughty Gossip and be sure to check back to mom raw to hear your results are. Now it's time for I'm nicest of the day.
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The nicest of the day is Jennifer.
Lopez And because look, Jennifer.
Lopez is an icon, a superstar, is an actress, as a singer. At the end of the day, she is a mama and she went all on Mama Bear. So she was at the opening of Othello on Sunday ninety night and.
Paparazzi got a little too close to seventeen year old Emmy and sources are saying j Lo put him or.
Or whoever thep is in their plated yelled at the guy, and you know what, I will get it.
I will I actually.
Think the propriazzi and celebrities. Look, it's a sickle correlationship. It's like, you know what you're getting yourself into. But what's our motto? Don't mess with kids? Nineteen year old? Get out of their face.
Yet need to be in their face? Got out the faces. Now Emy is seventeen years old, so some could argue maybe not a kid anymore. And Emmy was doing the red cap Emmy did not just sneak in. Emmy did do the red carpet. I'm told Emmy is getting ready to step into the spotlight a little more. And so a couple of years ago, Emmy would not want any part of this. Emmy would have slipped in through the side door. No, Emmy walked the carpet with their mom. And so I think we're going to see a lot more and have more revelations as they become much more comfortable with this extraordinary life of being a child of Jennifer Lopez and nicest of the day, Good for you, j Lo, And now I naughticed the day. Naughty, naughty Blake Lively is being accused to be paranoid for some really creepy behavior towards a fan at a hotel. Let me explain. A Texas woman is accusing the Gossip Girl star of being creepy and paranoid and claims that she was stalked to her car after a tense run in in a luxury hotel. So Katelyn Cooper said she was staying at a fancy hotel in Texas and she learned that a VIP guest was there. It was Blake Lively. She admits that when she saw Lively in the lobby, she pulled out a phone and started to record a few clips so that she could send them to her friend. Lively did not like this, but instead of confronting her, Lively waited until the next day and when she was checking out, Katelyn was checking out. She alleges that Lively started to film her. Then she got the hotel's security involved and was basically just a really mean girl. Caitlyn said she was just in a hotel. She wanted to show off to her friends that she saw Blake Lively. Blake, you couldn't just wave at the camera and smile like this has to become this big vendetta. You have to get this security involved. You have to pull out your own camera and then film her. Oh, it's just all such a bad look. And let's be honest at this very moment, the last thing that needs is more bad publicity and nautiest of the day. Let's end with a moment. Do what you don't want to do, and you're gonna get everything in reward. So here's a hard truth. Success lives on the other side of comfort. So if you're comfortable, you're not gonna be successful. If you only ever did things that you wanted to do, you'd keep having the same life that you have now. It's when you do the things that you dread, when you do the things that are awkward, when you do the stuff that makes you scared, that's when you get the biggest reward. It's not easy, but that's the key to success. Hey, that's it for today. Thank you so much for listening to the Already Been Nice with Rob and Donnie show, a production of iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio ap Apple podcast wherever you listen, leave us a review if you can. They really do help and remember all together. Now, let me hear you singing along. If you're going to be naughty, you got to be let me hear you nice, pick out everybody pet. It's not even nice with Rom