In this bonus episode of Math & Magic, we’re highlighting more of our favorite marketing stories — and they aren’t stories about when success came easily. Hear from Happy Baby Organics founder Shazi Visram, IBM Chief Global Affairs Officer Jonathan Adashek, Capital One Chief Brand Officer Marc Mentry, Sesame Workshop CEO Sherrie Westin, and Take-Two Interactive CEO Strauss Zelnick about times when mistakes were made, risks were taken, or pitfalls were avoided. Often, those are the moments when the most valuable lessons are learned.

Bonus Episode: Secrets of the Marketing Masters (Part 2)
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Diego Scotti: “Change always ends up winning.”
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Hoda Kotb: “Joy’s in us, it’s about unearthing it.”
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