Adam Wood was barely recruited out of high school in Utah. He reached out to the coach at BYU anyway, was given a time to run, and spent the summer betting on himself until he walked on to the team and earned a scholarship. These days he races marathons and makes running videos, and his wife, Mica, is a marathoner too. In April a panic attack at home turned his life upside down for a month, and he was diagnosed with panic disorder. We sat down in Chicago three days before the marathon, where he was chasing a time under 2:16 to qualify for the US Olympic Trials. I'm grateful he talked about all of it this openly.

In this episode Adam and I discuss going from not getting recruited to chasing an Olympic Trials qualifier. What he does in a race when it hurts, and what he does when he loses focus. Pacing Mica through her first marathon. The anxiety that came with walking on. The panic attack in April, and getting his life back on track. A voice memo question from his wife Mica. A line he picked up about the two kinds of suffering. And the promise he made himself while he was in the thick of it.

This episode touches on panic attacks, anxiety and mental health. If anything it brings up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.

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Adam Wood was barely recruited out of high school in Utah. He reached out to the coach at BYU anyway, was given a time to run, and spent the summer betting on himself until he walked on to the team and earned a scholarship. These days he races marathons and makes running videos, and his wife, Mica, is a marathoner too. In April a panic attack at home turned his life upside down for a month, and he was diagnosed with panic disorder. We sat down in Chicago three days before the marathon, where he was chasing a time under 2:16 to qualify for the US Olympic Trials. I'm grateful he talked about all of it this openly.
In this episode Adam and I discuss going from not getting recruited to chasing an Olympic Trials qualifier. What he does in a race when it hurts, and what he does when he loses focus. Pacing Mica through her first marathon. The anxiety that came with walking on. The panic attack in April, and getting his life back on track. A voice memo question from his wife Mica. A line he picked up about the two kinds of suffering. And the promise he made himself while he was in the thick of it.
This episode touches on panic attacks, anxiety and mental health. If anything it brings up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.
Free your team from time-consuming procurement tasks. Discover smart business buying, where unmatched selection meets AI-driven tools to simplify complex processes so you can focus on what matters most. Learn more at <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/keegan">amazon.com.au/keegan</a>
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#50 Tamika Upton: Newcastle Knights, Coping Strategies for Anxiety &amp; Personal Preparation: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6djlptLNNCRGez66e06YnM">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/50-tamika-upton-newcastle-knights-coping-strategies/id1695873736?i=1000657968759&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a> | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl4VM6SwGic">YouTube</a> Tamika on the panic attacks she didn't have a name for at first.
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#217 Adam Wood on Chasing the Olympic Trials, Navigating Panic Disorder & Changing the Plan, Not the Goal

Cam Bostock spent his teens inside. He was homeschooled, played video games all day and had social anxiety that followed him into his twenties. At about 19 he decided to change it: he got rid of the computer, started saying yes to invitations, and made himself walk up to strangers, which he says was the most terrifying thing he had ever done. A mate took him on three nights on the Bibbulmun Track and he was hooked. In 2020 COVID took his job and his apartment in Tokyo, so he went all in on filming hikes and didn't make any money for three years. Last year he set the unsupported record on the 1000 kilometre Bibbulmun. A bit over a week before we spoke he went back for the self-supported one, and at midnight on day one, 95 kilometres in, he stacked it five times on Mount Hallowell in the rain. He walked ten kilometres the next morning, then called it. 

In this episode Cam and I discuss that morning, the phone call to his wife Karis before he decided, and why a bloke who a couple of years ago would have dogged it out pulled the pin instead. We talk about why he started a podcast when he reckoned he was no good at holding a conversation. Then Dan and Emma, the two hikers he met on day one of the Pacific Crest Trail and walked 139 days with, and what suffering alongside strangers does to a friendship. I get his advice for anyone who has never slept outside,What his wife, Karis says to him on the phone when an attempt is falling apart, and what he leans on when he's out there alone.

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Cam Bostock spent his teens inside. He was homeschooled, played video games all day and had social anxiety that followed him into his twenties. At about 19 he decided to change it: he got rid of the computer, started saying yes to invitations, and made himself walk up to strangers, which he says was the most terrifying thing he had ever done. A mate took him on three nights on the Bibbulmun Track and he was hooked. In 2020 COVID took his job and his apartment in Tokyo, so he went all in on filming hikes and didn't make any money for three years. Last year he set the unsupported record on the 1000 kilometre Bibbulmun. A bit over a week before we spoke he went back for the self-supported one, and at midnight on day one, 95 kilometres in, he stacked it five times on Mount Hallowell in the rain. He walked ten kilometres the next morning, then called it. In this episode Cam and I discuss that morning, the phone call to his wife Karis before he decided, and why a bloke who a couple of years ago would have dogged it out pulled the pin instead. We talk about why he started a podcast when he reckoned he was no good at holding a conversation. Then Dan and Emma, the two hikers he met on day one of the Pacific Crest Trail and walked 139 days with, and what suffering alongside strangers does to a friendship. I get his advice for anyone who has never slept outside,What his wife, Karis says to him on the phone when an attempt is falling apart, and what he leans on when he's out there alone.
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#216 Cam Bostock on Trading Video Games for a 1000km Hiking Record, Quitting on Day Two & Why His Best Mates Are People He Met on Trail

Four days after our baby was born, I ran my version of the Sydney Marathon. It took me over four hours. Three weeks later I lined up in Berlin to run a sub 3:30. The only difference was how much I cared about the outcome.

In this episode I get into why the effort we're willing to give changes from one race to the next. Jack Brehm and motivational intensity theory. Three weeks away from my family. Oliver Foran on doing it for something bigger than himself. Fear, and proving it to yourself. The shallow end and the deep end of the pool. What happened at 33 kilometres. A mate's line about wanting and paying. And a mountain you might not need to climb to the top of.

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Four days after our baby was born, I ran my version of the Sydney Marathon. It took me over four hours. Three weeks later I lined up in Berlin to run a sub 3:30. The only difference was how much I cared about the outcome.
In this episode I get into why the effort we're willing to give changes from one race to the next. Jack Brehm and motivational intensity theory. Three weeks away from my family. Oliver Foran on doing it for something bigger than himself. Fear, and proving it to yourself. The shallow end and the deep end of the pool. What happened at 33 kilometres. A mate's line about wanting and paying. And a mountain you might not need to climb to the top of.
Part one, The Wall Is In Your Head, and part two, Lowering the Effort, are both out now.
This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/">DENZA Gold Coast</a>&nbsp;for getting behind the show.
Start with parts one and two:
Why do we Quit? (Part 1) #209 Psychological Impacts on Physical Performance: The Wall Is In Your Head:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1vjem9tGRp2wpcH0ZRD5vd">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-do-we-quit-part-1-209-psychological-impacts-on/id1695873736?i=1000791053980&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGbqxvtKnG0">YouTube</a>
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#165 The Psychology of Finding your Why?:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2uV8aflV7u68sVx4tVcC1f">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/165-the-psychology-of-finding-your-why/id1695873736?i=1000755713590&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoWY5ujn_h8">YouTube</a>
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Why do we Quit? (Part 3) #215 Psychological Impacts on Physical Performance: Raising the Willingness

Letty Mortensen was a late bloomer. He turned pro by sending Rusty photo after photo for free until they put him on the team. Then he had a big injury three years running: his shoulder, a fractured tibia, and a hamstring torn off the bone. He was just getting back in the water when a board hit him in the temple and gave him a concussion, in the lead up to a boat trip through a military zone between Russia and Japan. He went anyway and had the adventure of a lifetime! 

In this episode Letty and I discuss that trip to the Kuril Islands, a 1200 kilometre chain of volcanic islands that Russia and Japan still fight over, the two locals who started surfing because of Travis Rice, and what it’s like trusting your life to a captain who had never run a surf charter. We talk about the day his hamstring came off the bone, the first thing that went through his head, and how you show a sponsor your value when you can’t surf. Then the concussion: the hour and a half he kept surfing after it, what happened at the butcher’s, the headaches that came back every time he trained, and everyone having an opinion on what he should do. We compare it with my own concussions from footy, and get into the fear of getting hurt again, why he has given up some of his airs, and going all in with no plan B.

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Letty Mortensen was a late bloomer. He turned pro by sending Rusty photo after photo for free until they put him on the team. Then he had a big injury three years running: his shoulder, a fractured tibia, and a hamstring torn off the bone. He was just getting back in the water when a board hit him in the temple and gave him a concussion, in the lead up to a boat trip through a military zone between Russia and Japan. He went anyway and had the adventure of a lifetime! In this episode Letty and I discuss that trip to the Kuril Islands, a 1200 kilometre chain of volcanic islands that Russia and Japan still fight over, the two locals who started surfing because of Travis Rice, and what it&rsquo;s like trusting your life to a captain who had never run a surf charter. We talk about the day his hamstring came off the bone, the first thing that went through his head, and how you show a sponsor your value when you can&rsquo;t surf. Then the concussion: the hour and a half he kept surfing after it, what happened at the butcher&rsquo;s, the headaches that came back every time he trained, and everyone having an opinion on what he should do. We compare it with my own concussions from footy, and get into the fear of getting hurt again, why he has given up some of his airs, and going all in with no plan B.
Free your team from time-consuming procurement tasks. Discover smart business buying, where unmatched selection meets AI-driven tools to simplify complex processes so you can focus on what matters most. Learn more at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/keegan">amazon.com.au/keegan</a>
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#214 Pro Surfer Letty Mortensen: Surf Trips to Russian Military Zones, Tearing His Hamstring Off & Navigating Fear

Most of us already have something we reach for when a session gets hard. Music, a mate beside us, the odd swear word. I wanted to know which of them hold up in the research, and why. This is part two of a three part series on why we quit.

In this episode I get into how to make the same effort feel lighter, and why none of it is a shortcut. The study that sorted songs by beats per minute. Music against podcasts in sprint intervals. Smiling through pain, and someone in a sausage outfit. What my footy coaches used to say to me every pre-season, and whether that voice is baggage or something real. A 2020 study on anger and fear before a run. Swearing and a bucket of ice water. And an Oxford rowing crew who did the same session together and alone.

Part one, The Wall Is In Your Head, is out now. Part three, next week, is Raising the Willingness.

The studies I mention: Terry et al. (2020), Effects of music in exercise and sport: a meta-analytic review. Psychological Bulletin Patania et al. (2020), The Psychophysiological Effects of Different Tempo Music on Endurance Versus High-Intensity Performances. Frontiers in Psychology Stork, Karageorghis & Martin Ginis (2019), Let's Go: Psychological, psychophysical, and physiological effects of music during sprint interval exercise. Psychology of Sport and Exercise Blanchfield et al. (2014), Talking yourself out of exhaustion: the effects of self-talk on endurance performance. Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise Giles et al. (2020), When Anger Motivates: Approach States Selectively Influence Running Performance. Frontiers in Psychology Stephens, Atkins & Kingston (2009), Swearing as a response to pain. NeuroReport Stephens, Spierer & Katehis (2018), Effect of swearing on strength and power performance. Psychology of Sport and Exercise Cohen et al. (2010), Rowers' high: behavioural synchrony is correlated with elevated pain thresholds. Biology Letters

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#172 Rob Dalto: Losing Dad, 38 Marathons & Building the Bronx Burners: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The Bronx Burners is the run club Rob co-founded in New York.

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Most of us already have something we reach for when a session gets hard. Music, a mate beside us, the odd swear word. I wanted to know which of them hold up in the research, and why. This is part two of a three part series on why we quit.
In this episode I get into how to make the same effort feel lighter, and why none of it is a shortcut. The study that sorted songs by beats per minute. Music against podcasts in sprint intervals. Smiling through pain, and someone in a sausage outfit. What my footy coaches used to say to me every pre-season, and whether that voice is baggage or something real. A 2020 study on anger and fear before a run. Swearing and a bucket of ice water. And an Oxford rowing crew who did the same session together and alone.
Part one, The Wall Is In Your Head, is out now. Part three, next week, is Raising the Willingness.
The studies I mention:&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.1037/bul0000216">Terry et al. (2020), Effects of music in exercise and sport: a meta-analytic review. Psychological Bulletin</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.00074">Patania et al. (2020), The Psychophysiological Effects of Different Tempo Music on Endurance Versus High-Intensity Performances. Frontiers in Psychology</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psychsport.2019.101547">Stork, Karageorghis &amp; Martin Ginis (2019), Let's Go: Psychological, psychophysical, and physiological effects of music during sprint interval exercise. Psychology of Sport and Exercise</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.1249/MSS.0000000000000184">Blanchfield et al. (2014), Talking yourself out of exhaustion: the effects of self-talk on endurance performance. Medicine &amp; Science in Sports &amp; Exercise</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.01663">Giles et al. (2020), When Anger Motivates: Approach States Selectively Influence Running Performance. Frontiers in Psychology</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.1097/WNR.0b013e32832e64b1">Stephens, Atkins &amp; Kingston (2009), Swearing as a response to pain. NeuroReport</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psychsport.2017.11.014">Stephens, Spierer &amp; Katehis (2018), Effect of swearing on strength and power performance. Psychology of Sport and Exercise</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2009.0670">Cohen et al. (2010), Rowers' high: behavioural synchrony is correlated with elevated pain thresholds. Biology Letters</a>
This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/">DENZA Gold Coast</a>&nbsp;for getting behind the show.
Start with part one:
Why do we Quit? (Part 1) #209 Psychological Impacts on Physical Performance: The Wall Is In Your Head:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1vjem9tGRp2wpcH0ZRD5vd">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-do-we-quit-part-1-209-psychological-impacts-on/id1695873736?i=1000791053980&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGbqxvtKnG0">YouTube</a>
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The Psychology of Smiling Through Pain | Episode 181:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/3mAKv1Q79gXOSIchDnZjUt">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-psychology-of-smiling-through-pain-episode-181/id1695873736?i=1000767252910&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O9gZAuj6Ao">YouTube</a>
#160 Andy Buchanan: Finding Purpose In Running:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6oOjl3thEZkq3DTNOjQbQ4">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/160-andy-buchanan-finding-purpose-in-running/id1695873736?i=1000752259240&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIsHmMOs2dg">YouTube</a>&nbsp;Listening to your shoes hit the ground in a pack comes from Andy.
#172 Rob Dalto: Losing Dad, 38 Marathons &amp; Building the Bronx Burners:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2SoTBQxXbjZnd6eCNYi0Wx">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/172-rob-dalto-losing-dad-38-marathons-building-the/id1695873736?i=1000760905833&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=shfJrJwwIAA">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The Bronx Burners is the run club Rob co-founded in New York.
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Why do we Quit? (Part 2) #213 Psychological Impacts on Physical Performance: Lowering the Effort

Jake Taylor grew up in Sydney before moving to England on his own at 17 to play soccer. Now he's a content creator known for his signature running shot, bringing high-quality filmmaking to running content.

A year ago he ran his first marathon, in Berlin. We recorded the day before this year's race, and I'm grateful he gave up some of that day to sit down with me.

In this episode Jake and I discuss why he walked away from professional soccer at 24. What losing his wife Alex's dad did to his priorities. The stranger who ran past him in Copenhagen to say he was running because of Jake's video. How social media has made a sub-three marathon look normal, when it's far from it. The months of 300 views before anyone watched. And why he believes his best creative ideas come on a run.

This episode touches on grief and mental health. If anything it brings up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.

For more just like this:

#144 Bailey O'Brien: Building The Life You Want: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The episode Jake says got him following the show.

#199 Eddie Hearn: What It Takes to Be Great, "You Will Never Outwork Me": Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube Eddie on obsession and family, the conversation I bring up with Jake.

#201 The Psychology of Obsession: A Healthy Dose, and When It Crosses the Line: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The solo I mention recording just before Eddie came in.

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Jake Taylor grew up in Sydney before moving to England on his own at 17 to play soccer. Now he's a content creator known for his signature running shot, bringing high-quality filmmaking to running content. A year ago he ran his first marathon, in Berlin. We recorded the day before this year's race, and I'm grateful he gave up some of that day to sit down with me. In this episode Jake and I discuss why he walked away from professional soccer at 24. What losing his wife Alex's dad did to his priorities. The stranger who ran past him in Copenhagen to say he was running because of Jake's video. How social media has made a sub-three marathon look normal, when it's far from it. The months of 300 views before anyone watched. And why he believes his best creative ideas come on a run.
This episode touches on grief and mental health. If anything it brings up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.
For more just like this:
#144 Bailey O'Brien: Building The Life You Want:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/148NGF8Z3f0PzF2BfE29Vs">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/144-bailey-obrien-building-the-life-you-want/id1695873736?i=1000738951983&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPr79o9RHME">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The episode Jake says got him following the show.
#199 Eddie Hearn: What It Takes to Be Great, "You Will Never Outwork Me":&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ygWbg9F1i7UFupwZEoKRb">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/199-eddie-hearn-what-it-takes-to-be-great-you-will/id1695873736?i=1000782595582&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoFQN3TWjvs">YouTube</a>&nbsp;Eddie on obsession and family, the conversation I bring up with Jake.
#201 The Psychology of Obsession: A Healthy Dose, and When It Crosses the Line:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2onkTITCgS7rXwdPLoA3DH">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/201-the-psychology-of-obsession-a-healthy-dose/id1695873736?i=1000783986958&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tv-gGiA5iM">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The solo I mention recording just before Eddie came in.
Listen and subscribe:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4L7zyEBXeNYBDK4rRjBK0K">Spotify</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/keegan-and-company/id1695873736">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Keeganandcompany">YouTube</a>
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#212 Jake Taylor on Leaving Pro Soccer for Content, Why He Gets Best Ideas When Running & How Grief Changes Priorities In Life

Nick Pearce opened his first cafe a few days after his 19th birthday and spent the best part of 13 years in hospitality on the Gold Coast. He sold the cafe and the coffee roastery, and then last year set off around Australia in a caravan with his wife and three daughters. He cooked a recipe at every stop, and the cookbook that came out of it is out on pre-order now.

In this episode Nick and I discuss what inspired the decision to travel around Australia. The careers counsellor who told him hospitality wasn't an option. Opening Blackboard at 19, and the experience of having 70 staff and $750k of debt. Why he sold. The story of scone boy, and what inspired him to share his cooking online. Taking his seven year old daughter spearfishing. Routine and ritual on the road with three kids. How a year in a caravan affected his marriage. And what he told the publisher who said nobody makes the book he wanted to make.

This episode with Nick is supported by Dometic. If you want the best gear for your next outdoor adventure, head to Dometic.

Buy Nick's book, Recipearce On The Road, on pre-order now: Pre-order Recipearce On The Road

For more just like this:

#196 Geoff Wilson: 1800km Across the Desert by Wind & Why Hard Times Make Good People: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The mate I quote in this episode on building resilient kids.

#170 Grace Grove: Doctor, Runner & Content Creator | Being Yourself & Ditching Toxic Productivity: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The toxic productivity episode Nick mentions.

#164 Jai Arrow: Fatherhood and What Really Matters: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

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Nick Pearce opened his first cafe a few days after his 19th birthday and spent the best part of 13 years in hospitality on the Gold Coast. He sold the cafe and the coffee roastery, and then last year set off around Australia in a caravan with his wife and three daughters. He cooked a recipe at every stop, and the cookbook that came out of it is out on pre-order now.
In this episode Nick and I discuss what inspired the decision to travel around Australia. The careers counsellor who told him hospitality wasn't an option. Opening Blackboard at 19, and the experience of having 70 staff and $750k of debt. Why he sold. The story of scone boy, and what inspired him to share his cooking online. Taking his seven year old daughter spearfishing. Routine and ritual on the road with three kids. How a year in a caravan affected his marriage. And what he told the publisher who said nobody makes the book he wanted to make.
This episode with Nick is supported by Dometic. If you want the best gear for your next outdoor adventure, head to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dometic.com/en-au">Dometic</a>.
Buy Nick's book, Recipearce On The Road, on pre-order now:&nbsp;<a href="https://recipearce.com/recipearce-on-the-road/">Pre-order Recipearce On The Road</a>
For more just like this:
#196 Geoff Wilson: 1800km Across the Desert by Wind &amp; Why Hard Times Make Good People:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qibjVpfWC007lGhvIJ6HN">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/196-geoff-wilson-1800km-across-the-desert-by-wind-why/id1695873736?i=1000779495829&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIFq9PxuVx0">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The mate I quote in this episode on building resilient kids.
#170 Grace Grove: Doctor, Runner &amp; Content Creator | Being Yourself &amp; Ditching Toxic Productivity:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/66s6NgrIrs0qikhJTksnpN">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/170-grace-grove-doctor-runner-content-creator-being/id1695873736?i=1000758785296&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW70qW1AaQM">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The toxic productivity episode Nick mentions.
#164 Jai Arrow: Fatherhood and What Really Matters:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0pt58KGH008CDE9ICD8gkF">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/164-jai-arrow-fatherhood-and-what-really-matters/id1695873736?i=1000755365029&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCUoqx9VlE">YouTube</a>
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#211 Nick Pearce: Travelling Around Australia in a Caravan With 3 Daughters & Everything They Brought Home (Including a Cookbook)

Elliott Hagen hosts Mind Your Head, where he's been really open about his own mental health. A while back his wife Jordan gave him a choice, and he went and did the work. He's just become a dad, on the same day I did, so there was no better time to sit down together.

Two new dads reflecting on learnings and life on no sleep. We get into the ultimatum his wife gave him a couple of years ago. Why he had never held a baby until he was 32. And why now was the time, after years of thinking he didn't possess "the qualities to make a good dad".

This episode touches on suicidal thoughts and the death of a baby. If anything it brings up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.

For more just like this:

#186 Alexis Fernandez The Neuroscience of Connection, Creativity & Heartbreak: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

#131 Geoff Wilson: A Life of Adventure: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The mentor Elliott and I go and see straight after this conversation.

#185 Kori Sampson: You Can't Outthink Your Mental Health, Sobriety, ADHD & the Marathon Majors: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

Elliott has a great podcast of his own. Go and listen to it too: Mind Your Head on Spotify Mind Your Head on Apple Podcasts Mind Your Head on Instagram

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Elliott Hagen hosts Mind Your Head, where he's been really open about his own mental health. A while back his wife Jordan gave him a choice, and he went and did the work. He's just become a dad, on the same day I did, so there was no better time to sit down together.
Two new dads reflecting on learnings and life on no sleep. We get into the ultimatum his wife gave him a couple of years ago. Why he had never held a baby until he was 32. And why now was the time, after years of thinking he didn't possess "the qualities to make a good dad".
This episode touches on suicidal thoughts and the death of a baby. If anything it brings up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.
For more just like this:
#186 Alexis Fernandez The Neuroscience of Connection, Creativity &amp; Heartbreak:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4aEvYogj3q6LtvxcyGrswz">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/186-alexis-fernandez-dyfm-the-neuroscience-of/id1695873736?i=1000771520615&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEXGVLbRuYg">YouTube</a>
#131 Geoff Wilson: A Life of Adventure:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6KkN1OEOUH93W7paqLKA5X">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/131-geoff-wilson-a-life-of-adventure/id1695873736?i=1000732492853&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Rbg_mfLUk">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The mentor Elliott and I go and see straight after this conversation.
#185 Kori Sampson: You Can't Outthink Your Mental Health, Sobriety, ADHD &amp; the Marathon Majors:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5ZDrQpm8xyef4OINHqQCtp">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/185-kori-sampson-you-cant-outthink-your-mental-health/id1695873736?i=1000770399025&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ByQy6kw5AM">YouTube</a>
Elliott has a great podcast of his own. Go and listen to it too:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2GmH48tqc4GRsjzTP18mvV">Mind Your Head on Spotify</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mind-your-head/id1681005643">Mind Your Head on Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mindyourhead.podcast/">Mind Your Head on Instagram</a>
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#210 Elliott Hagen: The Ultimatum His Wife Gave Him Before They Started a Family & How to Face What You're Running From

I spent the last few days going through the research on what actually stops us when we think we are done. This is Part 1 of a 3 Part Series on it, and it is one I have been waiting to make.

In this episode I get into what 8 years of NRL pre-season actually teaches you about the conversation you have with yourself when you want to stop. The study from 2012 where cyclists were tricked into racing a virtual avatar set 2% faster than their own personal best. Johnny Gannon on being curious whats on the other side of fear. Courtney Dauwalter on the pain cave. And a challenge for your next hard session. 

Part 2 next week is Lowering the Effort, Part 3, the week after, is Raising the Willingness.

This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks to DENZA Gold Coast for getting behind the show.

For more just like this:

#198 Johnny Gannon: Bra Boy to Black Belt on Grit, Self Respect and Staying Curious: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube The breath hold story in this episode is his.

#153 James Newbury: Why Most People Quit Too Early: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

#162 Jake Barraclough (RanToJapan) : 280km Weeks, Running in Japan & Finding Your Limit: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

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I spent the last few days going through the research on what actually stops us when we think we are done. This is Part 1 of a 3 Part Series on it, and it is one I have been waiting to make.
In this episode I get into what 8 years of NRL pre-season actually teaches you about the conversation you have with yourself when you want to stop. The study from 2012 where cyclists were tricked into racing a virtual avatar set 2% faster than their own personal best. Johnny Gannon on being curious whats on the other side of fear. Courtney Dauwalter on the pain cave. And a challenge for your next hard session. Part 2 next week is Lowering the Effort, Part 3, the week after, is Raising the Willingness.
This podcast is supported by Denza. Thanks to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.denzagoldcoast.com.au/">DENZA Gold Coast</a>&nbsp;for getting behind the show.
For more just like this:
#198 Johnny Gannon: Bra Boy to Black Belt on Grit, Self Respect and Staying Curious:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2pD3CXeFyVkrFbHc7blFIM">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/198-johnny-gannon-bra-boy-to-black-belt-on-grit-self/id1695873736?i=1000781154583&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9y8KxY5zk">YouTube</a>&nbsp;The breath hold story in this episode is his.
#153 James Newbury: Why Most People Quit Too Early:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6vAb0WHjSPXuiYcTTJq3I2">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/153-james-newbury-why-most-people-quit-too-early/id1695873736?i=1000746537217&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi6pcTWz6ic">YouTube</a>
#162 Jake Barraclough (RanToJapan) : 280km Weeks, Running in Japan &amp; Finding Your Limit:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/7bSeXH1BVbgwfhTKq3oR4J">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/162-jake-barraclough-rantojapan-280km-weeks-running/id1695873736?i=1000753849251&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH5GsDCb3hI">YouTube</a>
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Why do we Quit? (Part 1) #209 Psychological Impacts on Physical Performance: The Wall Is In Your Head

This episode includes discussion of suicide and voluntary assisted dying. If anything in it brings something up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.

Matt Formston lost most of his vision at five years old, and the doctors told his parents his life was effectively over. He has since won world titles on a bike, been named Australia's best big wave surfer, picked up an Order of Australia medal, run sustainability at Optus and written a book called Why Not. This is his second time on the show. He came back in the same year he lost his dad, and I'm grateful he sat down and went as far into it as he did.

In this episode Matt and I discuss why a kid with five per cent vision would tackle anyone on a footy field, and what he was really trying to prove. We get into the cycling coach who told him no, his formula for trust, standards times consistency times time, the diagnosis at five that his parents accepted and the prognosis they refused, losing one of his best mates at seventeen and the ten years off the rails that followed, the list of twelve things he wrote down in a dark apartment that turned his life around, the two weeks he spent with his dad before his voluntary assisted death in March, the I ams his three kids say out loud before they go to sleep, and the fishing hook that gave his book its name.

If you want to listen to the first episode we did with Matt:

#99 Matt Formston: Blind Surfing. Big Waves. Bigger Vision: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

For more just like this:

#124 Mark Mathews: Recreate the Fear: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

#164 Jai Arrow: Fatherhood and What Really Matters: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

#105 Jake Baker-Daish: Addiction, Identity & Finding Purpose: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

Listen and subscribe: Spotify Apple Podcasts YouTube

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This episode includes discussion of suicide and voluntary assisted dying. If anything in it brings something up for you, Lifeline is 13 11 14.
Matt Formston lost most of his vision at five years old, and the doctors told his parents his life was effectively over. He has since won world titles on a bike, been named Australia's best big wave surfer, picked up an Order of Australia medal, run sustainability at Optus and written a book called Why Not. This is his second time on the show. He came back in the same year he lost his dad, and I'm grateful he sat down and went as far into it as he did.
In this episode Matt and I discuss why a kid with five per cent vision would tackle anyone on a footy field, and what he was really trying to prove. We get into the cycling coach who told him no, his formula for trust, standards times consistency times time, the diagnosis at five that his parents accepted and the prognosis they refused, losing one of his best mates at seventeen and the ten years off the rails that followed, the list of twelve things he wrote down in a dark apartment that turned his life around, the two weeks he spent with his dad before his voluntary assisted death in March, the I ams his three kids say out loud before they go to sleep, and the fishing hook that gave his book its name.
If you want to listen to the first episode we did with Matt:
#99 Matt Formston: Blind Surfing. Big Waves. Bigger Vision:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Dzml2TjcPoiWOJCM6WYe4">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/99-matt-formston-blind-surfing-big-waves-bigger-vision/id1695873736?i=1000702356061&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozb28Ignv7o">YouTube</a>
For more just like this:
#124 Mark Mathews: Recreate the Fear:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1PKgG4wEwsCbZ6MLplRUZF">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/124-mark-mathews-recreate-the-fear/id1695873736?i=1000727700138&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTE6rK-HTuU">YouTube</a>
#164 Jai Arrow: Fatherhood and What Really Matters:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0pt58KGH008CDE9ICD8gkF">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/164-jai-arrow-fatherhood-and-what-really-matters/id1695873736?i=1000755365029&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCUoqx9VlE">YouTube</a>
#105 Jake Baker-Daish: Addiction, Identity &amp; Finding Purpose:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4GrkWT1o5mHD2KEuBaXpqg">Spotify</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/105-jake-baker-daish-addiction-identity-finding-purpose/id1695873736?i=1000708865946&amp;uo=4">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgRxD6-sxtw">YouTube</a>
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#208 Matt Formston on Becoming the Partner You Want, How to Measure Trust & Why Standards Matter More Than You Think

Ever wondered what drives the world’s top athletes beyond the scoreboard?

Former professional NRL player Keegan Hipgrave uncovers the untold truths about mental health, resilience, and redefining success - one candid conversation at a time.

Ever wondered what drives the world&rsquo;s top athletes beyond the scoreboard?
Former professional NRL player Keegan Hipgrave uncovers the untold truths about mental health, resilience, and redefining success - one candid conversation at a time.

Keegan and Company

Keegan kicks off the new year with a big reset and a big upgrade. As the new Keegan & Company studio comes to life, this episode marks the beginning of a new era: state-of-the-art production, sharper audio, elevated visuals, and higher-quality conversations than ever before. In this solo episode, Keegan reflects on stepping into 2026 with intention and momentum, sharing practical insights on how to actually achieve your goals and more importantly, how to make them stick. With a huge year ahead for the podcast and running all major marathons in the world, this episode sets the tone for what’s next. If you’re ready to upgrade your environment, your mindset, and your execution, this one’s for you. Stay tuned,we’ re just getting started.

Keegan kicks off the new year with a big reset and a big upgrade. As the new Keegan &amp; Company studio comes to life, this episode marks the beginning of a new era: state-of-the-art production, sharper audio, elevated visuals, and higher-quality conversations than ever before. In this solo episode, Keegan reflects on stepping into 2026 with intention and momentum, sharing practical insights on how to actually achieve your goals and more importantly, how to make them stick. With a huge year ahead for the podcast and running all major marathons in the world, this episode sets the tone for what&rsquo;s next. If you&rsquo;re ready to upgrade your environment, your mindset, and your execution, this one&rsquo;s for you. Stay tuned,we&rsquo; re just getting started.

#150 THE NEW YEAR: HOW IM STICKING TO MY GOALS

Welcome to the video feed of Keegan and Company, where we delve into the world of mental health and sports. As a professional athlete, Keegan has seen the challenges faced by athletes, and through candid conversations, he is on a journey to find out what makes us happy and what success truly looks like.

Welcome to the video feed of Keegan and Company, where we delve into the world of mental health and sports. As a professional athlete, Keegan has seen the challenges faced by athletes, and through candid conversations, he is on a journey to find out what makes us happy and what success truly looks like.

Keegan and Company

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