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A 19-year-old Who Started a Movement, and A Guy Who Almost Didn't See 30

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Content note: discusses suicide and medical assistance in dying. Support: 9-8-8, anytime, by call or text.

Zack Heil is 19. He started Call Your Bros after buying a sandwich for a stranger at a Hamilton Subway at 1am. Trevor McLaughlin is on the other side of it; in 2022 he was put on a 14-month therapy waitlist and applied for MAID instead. Trevor’s still here, and in June 2027 he's biking 8,200 kilometres across Canada. Two guys, twelve years apart, on what nearly didn't happen.

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Content note: This episode discusses suicide and medical assistance in dying. Support: call or text 9-8-8 anytime in Canada.

Zack Heil was at a Subway in Hamilton at 1am when something small changed his life. A homeless woman couldn't afford her sub. He bought it for her, and she told him no one had ever done that for her before. He went home and started a men's mental health movement that night. He's 19.

Trevor McLaughlin is on the other side of the conversation. In 2022, he applied for therapy in Ontario and was told the wait was 14 months. His next phone call was to ask how to apply for medical assistance in dying. He's still here. In June 2027, he's biking 8,200 kilometres across Canada through a campaign called Annihilate the Walls.

Hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with both of them. Two men recognizing each other across a twelve-year gap. One figuring it out in real time. One who's been to the bottom and back.

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