In this episode of B the Change Georgia, Nathan Stuck sits down with Ben Colvin, co-founder of Devil’s Foot Beverage Company. Ben shares his unique transition from spending over 15 years in non-profit conservation to founding a craft, non-alcoholic beverage brand rooted in community impact and sustainability.

In this episode, we discuss:
The Origin Story: How a night out at an Asheville brewery led to the birth of Devil’s Foot Beverage Co.
Farm to Can: Why trademarking "Farm to Can" allowed Devil's Foot to directly support local, multi-generational farmers without getting bogged down in corporate red tape.
Scaling with Integrity: Strategy for growing from local taprooms to major shelf placements like Publix, Whole Foods, and Fresh Market while maintaining core brand values.
Community Resilience: How the Devil's Foot team mobilized their facility as a vital humanitarian supply hub following Hurricane Helene.
The Power of the B Corp Network: Why building a purpose-driven culture creates 100% staff retention and an unbeatable business support system.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Website: Devil's Foot Beverage Co. https://devilsfootbrew.com/ 
Taproom: Visit The Mule in Asheville, NC https://devilsfootbrew.com/location/the-mule/ 
Follow Devil’s Foot Beverage Co. on social mediat at:
linkedin.com/company/devils-foot-beverage 
https://www.instagram.com/devilsfootbrew/ 
https://www.facebook.com/devilsfootbrew 
https://www.tiktok.com/@devils.foot.brew 
https://www.instagram.com/friendofthedevilcocktails/ 
Learn about B Local Georgia: blocalgeorgia.com

 

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In this episode of B the Change Georgia, Nathan Stuck sits down with Ben Colvin, co-founder of Devil&rsquo;s Foot Beverage Company. Ben shares his unique transition from spending over 15 years in non-profit conservation to founding a craft, non-alcoholic beverage brand rooted in community impact and sustainability.
In this episode, we discuss:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The Origin Story: How a night out at an Asheville brewery led to the birth of Devil&rsquo;s Foot Beverage Co.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Farm to Can: Why trademarking "Farm to Can" allowed Devil's Foot to directly support local, multi-generational farmers without getting bogged down in corporate red tape.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Scaling with Integrity: Strategy for growing from local taprooms to major shelf placements like Publix, Whole Foods, and Fresh Market while maintaining core brand values.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Community Resilience: How the Devil's Foot team mobilized their facility as a vital humanitarian supply hub following Hurricane Helene.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The Power of the B Corp Network: Why building a purpose-driven culture creates 100% staff retention and an unbeatable business support system.</li>
</ul>
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RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Website: Devil's Foot Beverage Co. <a href="https://devilsfootbrew.com/">https://devilsfootbrew.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Taproom: Visit The Mule in Asheville, NC <a href="https://devilsfootbrew.com/location/the-mule/">https://devilsfootbrew.com/location/the-mule/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Devil&rsquo;s Foot Beverage Co. on social mediat at:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2"><a href="http://linkedin.com/company/devils-foot-beverage">linkedin.com/company/devils-foot-beverage</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/devilsfootbrew/">https://www.instagram.com/devilsfootbrew/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/devilsfootbrew">https://www.facebook.com/devilsfootbrew</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2"><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@devils.foot.brew">https://www.tiktok.com/@devils.foot.brew</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/friendofthedevilcocktails/">https://www.instagram.com/friendofthedevilcocktails/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about B Local Georgia: <a href="http://blocalgeorgia.com">blocalgeorgia.com</a></li>
</ul>
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In today’s episode, host Nathan Stuck sits down with Amber Makupson, Founder and CEO of Meraki Hair Wellness and Executive Director of the Clean Beauty Coalition.

Amber is an entrepreneur, policy advocate, and media founder working at the intersection of beauty, public health, and business. As the leader of Meraki Hair Wellness, the Clean Beauty Coalition, and Makupson Media, she educates and advocates for ingredient transparency and safer consumer products. Her impactful work has been featured in more than 40 national and international publications—including Forbes, Harper's Bazaar, and Oprah Magazine—and she has testified in Congress in support of safer beauty justice legislation.

In her conversation with Nathan, Amber shares her profound journey from formulating clean products in her kitchen after surviving second-degree chemical burns to successfully navigating the rigorous path to B Corp certification. They dive deep into the alarming 75% toxicity rate found in products marketed to Black women, the tactical adjustments needed to manage founder burnout, and the power of state and federal legislation to drive industry transparency.

Listeners will walk away with an updated blueprint on how to operationalize their values on paper, build authentic stakeholder communities, and scale an impactful brand without losing their humanity.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Visit AmberMakupson.com
Visit Meraki Hair Wellness: MerakiHairWellness.com
Learn about the Clean Beauty Coalition: cleanbeautycoalition.org
Follow Amber Makupson on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ambermakupson
Learn about B Local Georgia: blocalgeorgia.com
Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting: profitablepurposeconsulting.com

 

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In today&rsquo;s episode, host Nathan Stuck sits down with Amber Makupson, Founder and CEO of Meraki Hair Wellness and Executive Director of the Clean Beauty Coalition.
Amber is an entrepreneur, policy advocate, and media founder working at the intersection of beauty, public health, and business. As the leader of Meraki Hair Wellness, the Clean Beauty Coalition, and Makupson Media, she educates and advocates for ingredient transparency and safer consumer products. Her impactful work has been featured in more than 40 national and international publications&mdash;including Forbes, Harper's Bazaar, and Oprah Magazine&mdash;and she has testified in Congress in support of safer beauty justice legislation.
In her conversation with Nathan, Amber shares her profound journey from formulating clean products in her kitchen after surviving second-degree chemical burns to successfully navigating the rigorous path to B Corp certification. They dive deep into the alarming 75% toxicity rate found in products marketed to Black women, the tactical adjustments needed to manage founder burnout, and the power of state and federal legislation to drive industry transparency.
Listeners will walk away with an updated blueprint on how to operationalize their values on paper, build authentic stakeholder communities, and scale an impactful brand without losing their humanity.
&nbsp;
RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="http://ambermakupson.com">AmberMakupson.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Visit Meraki Hair Wellness: <a href="https://www.merakihairwellness.com/">MerakiHairWellness.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about the Clean Beauty Coalition: <a href="https://www.cleanbeautycoalition.org/">cleanbeautycoalition.org</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Amber Makupson on LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/ambermakupson">linkedin.com/in/ambermakupson</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about B Local Georgia: <a href="http://blocalgeorgia.com">blocalgeorgia.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting: <a href="https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/">profitablepurposeconsulting.com</a></li>
</ul>
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Leading With Soul: Reimagining Clean Beauty With Amber Makupson

Nathan sits down with Eve London, the host committee chair for Build Southeast 2026, Business Development Associate at Ecolytics, and a B Local Mid-Atlantic board member.

Eve has spent nearly half of her life in the B Corp movement and is now leading the charge to bring the regional B Corp conference to her hometown of Washington DC, this September 16th and 17th.

Eve and Nathan give you a preview of what you can expect in the nation's capital, including BLD Southeast’s shift away from passive panel presentations towards more action-oriented workshops, how we'll continue to drive hyper-local economic impact across our host city, and what it takes to build an unforgettable community gathering from the ground up.

Stay tuned to discover why you should join us this September in Washington, DC, and how you can help us grow the B Corp movement across our region.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Visit https://www.ecolytics.io/
Follow Ecolytics on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/ecolytics 
Learn more about BLD Southeast at https://bldsoutheast.com/
Follow BLD Southeast on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/bld-southeast 
Learn more about B Local Mid-Atlantic at https://blocalma.com/
Follow B Local Mid-Atlantic on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/b-local-mid-atlantic 
Learn about offsetting your AI footprint at https://www.offsetai.app/ 
Follow Eve on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/eve-london-396897166

 

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Nathan sits down with Eve London, the host committee chair for Build Southeast 2026, Business Development Associate at Ecolytics, and a B Local Mid-Atlantic board member.
Eve has spent nearly half of her life in the B Corp movement and is now leading the charge to bring the regional B Corp conference to her hometown of Washington DC, this September 16th and 17th.
Eve and Nathan give you a preview of what you can expect in the nation's capital, including BLD Southeast&rsquo;s shift away from passive panel presentations towards more action-oriented workshops, how we'll continue to drive hyper-local economic impact across our host city, and what it takes to build an unforgettable community gathering from the ground up.
Stay tuned to discover why you should join us this September in Washington, DC, and how you can help us grow the B Corp movement across our region.
&nbsp;
RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://www.ecolytics.io/">https://www.ecolytics.io/</a></li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">Follow Ecolytics on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ecolytics">https://www.linkedin.com/company/ecolytics</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about BLD Southeast at <a href="https://bldsoutheast.com/">https://bldsoutheast.com/</a></li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">Follow BLD Southeast on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/bld-southeast">https://www.linkedin.com/company/bld-southeast</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about B Local Mid-Atlantic at <a href="https://blocalma.com/">https://blocalma.com/</a></li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">Follow B Local Mid-Atlantic on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/b-local-mid-atlantic">https://www.linkedin.com/company/b-local-mid-atlantic</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about offsetting your AI footprint at <a href="https://www.offsetai.app/">https://www.offsetai.app/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Eve on LinkedIn at <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/eve-london-396897166">www.linkedin.com/in/eve-london-396897166</a></li>
</ul>
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 What to Expect at BLD Southeast 2026 in Washington, D.C. with Eve London

In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Savannah Seydel to unpack what Better Earth is doing to eliminate petroleum-based plastics from our food systems and advance a truly circular economy. 

 

Savannah Seydel is Vice President of Sustainability at Better Earth, an Atlanta-based B Corp and compostable packaging provider, where she advances Better Earth's mission to realize regenerative circularity across the foodservice industry through product innovation, education and advocacy, and stakeholder engagement. She is also the founder of Sustaining Women, a network supporting and sustaining 800+ women across the environmental sector. With an expansive background that bridges creative writing, environmental public affairs, grassroots advocacy, and impact filmmaking, Savannah brings a distinct narrative lens to complex environmental and cross-functional corporate challenges.

 

In this conversation, Nathan and Savannah dive deep into her circuitous career journey—including the fateful ski lift encounter that redefined her professional path. They discuss the historical evolution of compostable packaging, why business leaders must champion a mindset of progress over perfection, and how her newly expanded national initiative, Sustaining Women, is building a resilient, intergenerational community designed to fight change-agent burnout.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Visit Better Earth www.becompostable.com 
Follow Better Earth on social media at:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/becompostable/ 
X / Twitter: https://x.com/becompostable 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/becompostable/ 
Follow Sustaining Women on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/sustaining-women 
Sign Up for the Atlanta Women in Sustainability Quarterly Newsletter https://lnkd.in/efKSE7ig 

 

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In today&rsquo;s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Savannah Seydel to unpack what Better Earth is doing to eliminate petroleum-based plastics from our food systems and advance a truly circular economy.&nbsp;
&nbsp;
Savannah Seydel is Vice President of Sustainability at Better Earth, an Atlanta-based B Corp and compostable packaging provider, where she advances Better Earth's mission to realize regenerative circularity across the foodservice industry through product innovation, education and advocacy, and stakeholder engagement. She is also the founder of Sustaining Women, a network supporting and sustaining 800+ women across the environmental sector. With an expansive background that bridges creative writing, environmental public affairs, grassroots advocacy, and impact filmmaking, Savannah brings a distinct narrative lens to complex environmental and cross-functional corporate challenges.
&nbsp;
In this conversation, Nathan and Savannah dive deep into her circuitous career journey&mdash;including the fateful ski lift encounter that redefined her professional path. They discuss the historical evolution of compostable packaging, why business leaders must champion a mindset of progress over perfection, and how her newly expanded national initiative, Sustaining Women, is building a resilient, intergenerational community designed to fight change-agent burnout.
&nbsp;
RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit Better Earth <a href="http://www.becompostable.com">www.becompostable.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Better Earth on social media at:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/becompostable/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/becompostable/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2">X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/becompostable">https://x.com/becompostable</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/becompostable/">https://www.instagram.com/becompostable/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Sustaining Women on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sustaining-women">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sustaining-women</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Sign Up for the Atlanta Women in Sustainability Quarterly Newsletter <a href="https://lnkd.in/efKSE7ig">https://lnkd.in/efKSE7ig</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Scaling Compostable Innovation and Fighting Burnout with Savannah Seydel

Can you scale your corporate impact without completely running yourself into the ground? In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Elaine Dinos, Founder of Kindred Lane, to unpack how to help leaders move past the exhausting cycle of over-extension and step into a more sustainable, aligned way of leading.

 

Elaine is a newly certified B Corp founder and former partner at Korn Ferry with over a decade of experience guiding executive searches for legendary brands. After navigating her own "breakdown to breakthrough" career moment, she launched Kindred Lane to serve as a nature-backed sanctuary where leaders go to grow.

In this deeply candid conversation, Elaine breaks down the core elements of a truly regenerative corporate culture and shares how she helps leaders make business purpose human-centric. Listeners will walk away with a fresh blueprint for balancing intense growth with personal sustainability.

Upcoming Event: Kindred Lane is hosting a Regenerative Leadership Retreat in Serenbe, October 20-23! Check out their website for dates and registration details to focus on your personal and organizational impact.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Learn more about Kindred Lane at https://www.kindredlane.com 
Connect with Elaine Dinos on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-dinos-4179a73/ 
Learn about B Local Georgia at https://blocalgeorgia.com/ 
Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting at https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/ 

 

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Can you scale your corporate impact without completely running yourself into the ground? In today&rsquo;s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Elaine Dinos, Founder of Kindred Lane, to unpack how to help leaders move past the exhausting cycle of over-extension and step into a more sustainable, aligned way of leading.
&nbsp;
Elaine is a newly certified B Corp founder and former partner at Korn Ferry with over a decade of experience guiding executive searches for legendary brands. After navigating her own "breakdown to breakthrough" career moment, she launched Kindred Lane to serve as a nature-backed sanctuary where leaders go to grow.
In this deeply candid conversation, Elaine breaks down the core elements of a truly regenerative corporate culture and shares how she helps leaders make business purpose human-centric. Listeners will walk away with a fresh blueprint for balancing intense growth with personal sustainability.
Upcoming Event: Kindred Lane is hosting a Regenerative Leadership Retreat in Serenbe, October 20-23! Check out their website for dates and registration details to focus on your personal and organizational impact.
&nbsp;
RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about Kindred Lane at <a href="https://www.kindredlane.com">https://www.kindredlane.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Connect with Elaine Dinos on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-dinos-4179a73/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-dinos-4179a73/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about B Local Georgia at <a href="https://blocalgeorgia.com/">https://blocalgeorgia.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting at <a href="https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/">https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Where Leaders Go to Grow: Regenerative Culture and the Wisdom of the Forest with Elaine Dinos

In this episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Tara Jenkins, founder of Conscious Revolution, to discuss her 25-year journey through the "belly of the beast" in corporate HR.

Tara shares her transition from a high-stakes executive to a "recovering HR person" who now helps businesses build cultures of dignity and transparency. They explore the systemic issues of "supremacy culture," the vulnerability of leaving the corporate inner circle, and why the B Corp community is vital for leaders looking to reconnect the head and the heart of their business.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Learn about Consvious Revolution at https://www.consciousrevolution.com/ 
Follow Conscious Revolution on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/conscious-revolution/ 
Follow Tara on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/tara-jenkins/
Learn about B Local Georgia at https://blocalgeorgia.com/
Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting at https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/ 

 

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In this episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Tara Jenkins, founder of Conscious Revolution, to discuss her 25-year journey through the "belly of the beast" in corporate HR.
Tara shares her transition from a high-stakes executive to a "recovering HR person" who now helps businesses build cultures of dignity and transparency. They explore the systemic issues of "supremacy culture," the vulnerability of leaving the corporate inner circle, and why the B Corp community is vital for leaders looking to reconnect the head and the heart of their business.
&nbsp;
RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about Consvious Revolution at <a href="https://www.consciousrevolution.com/">https://www.consciousrevolution.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Conscious Revolution on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/conscious-revolution/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/conscious-revolution/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Tara on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tara-jenkins/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tara-jenkins/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about B Local Georgia at <a href="https://blocalgeorgia.com/">https://blocalgeorgia.com/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn about Profitable Purpose Consulting at <a href="https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/">https://www.profitablepurposeconsulting.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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The Recovering HR Executive: Reimagining Capitalism and Human-Centric Leadership with Tara Jenkins

In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with his former professor, Dr. Sundar Bharadwaj, the Coca-Cola Chair of Marketing at UGA, to unpack how social impact can become a firm's most significant competitive advantage. Sundar shares his journey from working with Amul, an Indian dairy cooperative that revolutionized farmer cash flow, to researching how modern multinationals leverage purpose to disrupt stagnant categories.

Nathan and Sundar dive deep into the "Marketing-Finance Interface," discussing why marketing metrics often fail to reach the C-suite and how to reframe impact as a demand driver rather than a cost center. Sundar provides a framework for leaders to move beyond performative CSR and instead bake impact into the very core of their products.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Learn more about Sundar’s work via his Terry College of Business Profile https://www.terry.uga.edu/directory/sundar-bharadwaj/
Order Sundar's book: Good Growth: How Brands Win with Social Impact https://www.amazon.com/Good-Growth-Brands-Social-Impact-ebook/dp/B0D2M3CRFZ
Connect with Sundar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundarbharadwajmarketingprof

 

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In today&rsquo;s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with his former professor, Dr. Sundar Bharadwaj, the Coca-Cola Chair of Marketing at UGA, to unpack how social impact can become a firm's most significant competitive advantage. Sundar shares his journey from working with Amul, an Indian dairy cooperative that revolutionized farmer cash flow, to researching how modern multinationals leverage purpose to disrupt stagnant categories.
Nathan and Sundar dive deep into the "Marketing-Finance Interface," discussing why marketing metrics often fail to reach the C-suite and how to reframe impact as a demand driver rather than a cost center. Sundar provides a framework for leaders to move beyond performative CSR and instead bake impact into the very core of their products.
&nbsp;
RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about Sundar&rsquo;s work via his Terry College of Business Profile https://www.terry.uga.edu/directory/sundar-bharadwaj/</li>
<li aria-level="1">Order Sundar's book: Good Growth: How Brands Win with Social Impact https://www.amazon.com/Good-Growth-Brands-Social-Impact-ebook/dp/B0D2M3CRFZ</li>
<li aria-level="1">Connect with Sundar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundarbharadwajmarketingprof</li>
</ul>
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Good Growth: Leveraging Social Impact as the Ultimate Competitive Advantage

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Seth Gunning, Founder of Sunpath Solar, Georgia’s only B Corp-certified solar installation company.

 

Seth shares his 20-year journey from community organizing and fighting coal initiatives to leading a business that specializes in making clean energy accessible to low-to-moderate-income homeowners and nonprofits. They discuss the "solar coaster" of shifting tax credits, the importance of "encoding values" into operations, and how Sunpath is using innovative financing models like "Solar Energy Procurement Agreements" to bypass the high upfront costs that often keep clean energy out of reach for those who need it most.

 

Listen in to discover how Seth is proving that business can be a powerful tool for environmental justice and learn why 'encoding' values into your standard operating procedures is the key to surviving any industry’s volatility.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Visit Sunpath Solar at https://sunpath.solar/
Follow Sunpath Solar on social media at:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunpath-solar/ 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551612671287 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sunpath.solar
And get in touch with Sunpath Solar at https://sunpath.solar/contact/

 

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In this episode, Nathan sits down with Seth Gunning, Founder of Sunpath Solar, Georgia&rsquo;s only B Corp-certified solar installation company.
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Seth shares his 20-year journey from community organizing and fighting coal initiatives to leading a business that specializes in making clean energy accessible to low-to-moderate-income homeowners and nonprofits. They discuss the "solar coaster" of shifting tax credits, the importance of "encoding values" into operations, and how Sunpath is using innovative financing models like "Solar Energy Procurement Agreements" to bypass the high upfront costs that often keep clean energy out of reach for those who need it most.
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Listen in to discover how Seth is proving that business can be a powerful tool for environmental justice and learn why 'encoding' values into your standard operating procedures is the key to surviving any industry&rsquo;s volatility.
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<li aria-level="1">Visit Sunpath Solar at <a href="https://sunpath.solar/">https://sunpath.solar/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Sunpath Solar on social media at:</li>
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<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunpath-solar/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunpath-solar/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2">Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551612671287">https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551612671287</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sunpath.solar">https://www.instagram.com/sunpath.solar</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">And get in touch with Sunpath Solar at https://sunpath.solar/contact/</li>
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Energy Justice: Why Seth Gunning is Democratizing Georgia’s Solar Landscape

 How do you transition from leading in high-stakes environments like the Pentagon and Chick-fil-A to building a movement for community unity?

In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Rodney Bullard, CEO of The Same House, to unpack what he is doing to bridge social and economic divides in Atlanta and beyond. Rodney shares his journey from the Air Force Academy to the corporate world, illustrating how a legacy-driven mindset can transform organizations and communities.

Rodney is the author of the best-selling book Heroes Wanted and a recognized leader in corporate social responsibility. He brings a unique perspective on "significance versus success," rooted in the mentorship of civil rights giants and his own lived experience.

In this episode, you will learn:


The fundamental difference between "success" (titles and wealth) and "significance" (helping people and creating lasting impact).


Why "tyrannical" leadership doesn't scale and how authentic care builds a team that will "go through a wall" for the mission.


The "Same House" philosophy: why we cannot sit comfortably in one room while our neighbor's room is on fire.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE


Visit https://thesamehouse.org/


Learn more about Rodney at https://www.rodneybullard.com/


Follow Rodney Bullard on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodneybullardatl/


Learn more about B Local Georgia at https://blocalgeorgia.com/

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&nbsp;How do you transition from leading in high-stakes environments like the Pentagon and Chick-fil-A to building a movement for community unity?
In today&rsquo;s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Rodney Bullard, CEO of The Same House, to unpack what he is doing to bridge social and economic divides in Atlanta and beyond. Rodney shares his journey from the Air Force Academy to the corporate world, illustrating how a legacy-driven mindset can transform organizations and communities.
Rodney is the author of the best-selling book Heroes Wanted and a recognized leader in corporate social responsibility. He brings a unique perspective on "significance versus success," rooted in the mentorship of civil rights giants and his own lived experience.
In this episode, you will learn:
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The fundamental difference between "success" (titles and wealth) and "significance" (helping people and creating lasting impact).
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Why "tyrannical" leadership doesn't scale and how authentic care builds a team that will "go through a wall" for the mission.
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The "Same House" philosophy: why we cannot sit comfortably in one room while our neighbor's room is on fire.
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Success vs. Significance: Leading with Compassion and Authentic Connection with Rodney Bullard

What happens when a stable career in government turns into a sudden layoff in the middle of New York City? For Claire Angelle, it was the "oh sh*t" moment that birthed a thriving agency.

Claire Angelle is a former diplomat turned PR strategist with over 20 years of experience in communications, media relations, and international affairs. Before founding Elevia, Claire opened and led the City of Atlanta’s first Office of International Affairs, helping generate over $2.7 billion in economic impact and 10,000+ new jobs while raising more than $3 million in funding for global initiatives.

In this episode, Claire joins Nathan to discuss her transition from the French Foreign Service to founding Elevia. They dive deep into why mission-driven organizations often struggle to tell their stories, the critical balance between "the head and the heart" in data-driven narratives, and why ethical storytelling requires a new approach to consent.

 

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
Visit https://elevia.agency/
Follow Claire on
LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-collobert-angelle-5267b4a
Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/clairecangelle/ 

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What happens when a stable career in government turns into a sudden layoff in the middle of New York City? For Claire Angelle, it was the "oh sh*t" moment that birthed a thriving agency.
Claire Angelle is a former diplomat turned PR strategist with over 20 years of experience in communications, media relations, and international affairs. Before founding Elevia, Claire opened and led the City of Atlanta&rsquo;s first Office of International Affairs, helping generate over $2.7 billion in economic impact and 10,000+ new jobs while raising more than $3 million in funding for global initiatives.
In this episode, Claire joins Nathan to discuss her transition from the French Foreign Service to founding Elevia. They dive deep into why mission-driven organizations often struggle to tell their stories, the critical balance between "the head and the heart" in data-driven narratives, and why ethical storytelling requires a new approach to consent.
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RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE
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<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://elevia.agency/">https://elevia.agency/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Claire on</li>
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<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-collobert-angelle-5267b4a">https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-collobert-angelle-5267b4a</a></li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/clairecangelle/">https://www.instagram.com/clairecangelle/</a>&nbsp;</li>
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The Accidental Entrepreneur: How Claire Angelle Built a PR Powerhouse

Join our host Nathan Stuck, Chair of B Local Georgia, as he guides us in these short and impactful conversations with some of the most purposeful, inspiring leaders in the Peach State. These featured guests are proving that a stakeholder-driven economic system that cares about their people, communities, customers, and the environment is not only the right way towards a sustainable future, but that it's also great for business! We're excited to have you join us as we learn together how to use our influence as a #ForceForGood.

Produced by Chat With Leaders Media. Visit https://chatwithleaders.com to learn how you can leverage strategic content and event experiences to grow your business. 

Join our host <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanastuck/">Nathan Stuck</a>, Chair of <a href="https://blocalgeorgia.com/">B Local Georgia</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanastuck/"></a>as he guides us in these short and impactful conversations with some of the most purposeful, inspiring leaders in the Peach State. These featured guests are proving that a stakeholder-driven economic system&nbsp;that cares about their people, communities, customers, and the environment is not only the right way towards a sustainable future, but that it's also great for business! We're excited to have you join us as we learn together how to use our influence as a #ForceForGood.
Produced by Chat With Leaders Media. Visit https://chatwithleaders.com to learn how you can leverage strategic content and event experiences to grow your business.&nbsp;

Making a profit and making a difference ​aren’t mutually exclusive. Hear how some of the most purpose-driven leaders in the Southeast are proving that for profit businesses can be used as a force for good while being successful financially.

B The Change Georgia with Nathan Stuck

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Michael Whelchel, Founder & CEO of Big Path Capital, shares his journey of transitioning from traditional private equity to impact investing, exploring how values-driven capitalism and purpose-led business drive meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss the launch of Big Path Capital on the precipice of the 2007 financial crisis, building a high-trust virtual culture, and how the Smarter Money framework and strategic convening create powerful ripple effects for both business and society. This conversation provides actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.

Key Takeaways
The Smarter Money framework for impact and returns: Aligning capital with values does not require sacrificing financial performance; maximizing both financial and social/environmental returns creates a structurally superior way to deploy wealth.
Building a remote, purpose-led culture: Operating a successful virtual organization relies on a foundation of high trust, personal flexibility, and direct, candid communication rather than rigid oversight.
The role of convening and community in leadership: Bringing purpose-driven leaders together through initiatives like the MO Summit fosters mutual resilience and sparks transformative partnerships that extend far beyond individual transactions.

Resources Mentioned
Visit https://www.bigpathcapital.com/
Follow Michael on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwhelchel/
Follow Big Path Capital on social media at:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/big-path-capital/

Join the Conversation
The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, Michael Whelchel, Founder &amp; CEO of Big Path Capital, shares his journey of transitioning from traditional private equity to impact investing, exploring how values-driven capitalism and purpose-led business drive meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss the launch of Big Path Capital on the precipice of the 2007 financial crisis, building a high-trust virtual culture, and how the Smarter Money framework and strategic convening create powerful ripple effects for both business and society. This conversation provides actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The Smarter Money framework for impact and returns: Aligning capital with values does not require sacrificing financial performance; maximizing both financial and social/environmental returns creates a structurally superior way to deploy wealth.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Building a remote, purpose-led culture: Operating a successful virtual organization relies on a foundation of high trust, personal flexibility, and direct, candid communication rather than rigid oversight.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The role of convening and community in leadership: Bringing purpose-driven leaders together through initiatives like the MO Summit fosters mutual resilience and sparks transformative partnerships that extend far beyond individual transactions.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit https://www.bigpathcapital.com/</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Michael on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelwhelchel/</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Big Path Capital on social media at:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/big-path-capital/</li>
</ul>
</ul>
Join the Conversation The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:
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Michael Whelchel

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Rick Plympton, Corporate Fellow and Former CEO at Optimax Systems, Inc, shares their journey of transitioning to an employee ownership trust and empowering a local workforce, exploring how shared prosperity drives meaningful, long-term success. 

Rick and Jeff discuss open-book financial management, the math behind profit-sharing models, and creating a perpetual purpose trust that makes a business unsellable, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.

Key Takeaways
Empowering the Whole Team: Shifting away from a command-and-control hierarchy allows a company to scale at the sphere of influence of the entire workforce rather than just a few top executives, which unlocked a sustainable 20% year-over-year organic growth rate for OptiMax.
Radical Equity and Shared Wealth: Distributing 25% of company profits equally among core team members—regardless of whether they are the CEO or the custodian—fosters a unified workspace culture where every individual values absolute precision and quality.
Hardcoding Legacy with EOTs: Moving to an Employee Ownership Trust (or Perpetual Purpose Trust) establishes permanent corporate governance that blocks predatory corporate buyouts, protects local families, and caps executive compensation at a healthy 7x ratio to the lowest earner.

Resources Mentioned
Visit Optimax’s website at www.Optimaxsi.com 

Join the Conversation
The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, Rick Plympton, Corporate Fellow and Former CEO at Optimax Systems, Inc, shares their journey of transitioning to an employee ownership trust and empowering a local workforce, exploring how shared prosperity drives meaningful, long-term success.&nbsp;
Rick and Jeff discuss open-book financial management, the math behind profit-sharing models, and creating a perpetual purpose trust that makes a business unsellable, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Empowering the Whole Team: Shifting away from a command-and-control hierarchy allows a company to scale at the sphere of influence of the entire workforce rather than just a few top executives, which unlocked a sustainable 20% year-over-year organic growth rate for OptiMax.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Radical Equity and Shared Wealth: Distributing 25% of company profits equally among core team members&mdash;regardless of whether they are the CEO or the custodian&mdash;fosters a unified workspace culture where every individual values absolute precision and quality.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Hardcoding Legacy with EOTs: Moving to an Employee Ownership Trust (or Perpetual Purpose Trust) establishes permanent corporate governance that blocks predatory corporate buyouts, protects local families, and caps executive compensation at a healthy 7x ratio to the lowest earner.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit Optimax&rsquo;s website at <a href="http://www.optimaxsi.com">www.Optimaxsi.com</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
Join the Conversation The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:
Chat With Leaders Media <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/</a> and End of the Line Productions <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/</a>.&nbsp;
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Rick Plympton

In this episode of The Steward Chair, host Jeff Bond sits down with Jackie Cardello, President of GRF CPAs & Advisors, to discuss how values, independence, and community impact drive sustainable success. Jackie shares how her background in English, philosophy, and psychology fuels human-centered leadership in a technical industry.

We explore GRF's courageous pivot from an "eat what you kill" compensation model to a goals-based system that rewards collective stewardship and leadership behaviors. Jackie also shares the strategic advantages of remaining fiercely independent and managing difficult partner conversations with vulnerability.

Key Takeaways
The Humanities Edge: A background in philosophy and psychology builds the empathy and communication skills required to lead people and navigate tough organizational shifts.
Incentivizing Stewardship: Swapping out individual profit models for goals-based compensation allows a firm to intentionally reward mentorship and collaboration over short-term revenue.
Independence as a Magnet: Staying independent preserves a firm's core values, allowing for client-first decision-making and an authentic culture that naturally attracts and retains top talent.

Resources Mentioned
Visit https://www.grfcpa.com/ Follow Shane on LinkedIn at 
Follow GRF CPAs & Advisors (GRF) on social media at:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grf-cpas-and-advisors
Twitter / X: https://twitter.com/grfcpas
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grfcpas/
Follow Jackie on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-cardello-grf/

Join the Conversation
The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

In this episode of The Steward Chair, host Jeff Bond sits down with Jackie Cardello, President of GRF CPAs &amp; Advisors, to discuss how values, independence, and community impact drive sustainable success. Jackie shares how her background in English, philosophy, and psychology fuels human-centered leadership in a technical industry.
We explore GRF's courageous pivot from an "eat what you kill" compensation model to a goals-based system that rewards collective stewardship and leadership behaviors. Jackie also shares the strategic advantages of remaining fiercely independent and managing difficult partner conversations with vulnerability.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The Humanities Edge: A background in philosophy and psychology builds the empathy and communication skills required to lead people and navigate tough organizational shifts.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Incentivizing Stewardship: Swapping out individual profit models for goals-based compensation allows a firm to intentionally reward mentorship and collaboration over short-term revenue.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Independence as a Magnet: Staying independent preserves a firm's core values, allowing for client-first decision-making and an authentic culture that naturally attracts and retains top talent.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://www.grfcpa.com/">https://www.grfcpa.com/</a> Follow Shane on LinkedIn at&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow GRF CPAs &amp; Advisors (GRF) on social media at:
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grf-cpas-and-advisors</li>
<li aria-level="2">Twitter / X: https://twitter.com/grfcpas</li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/grfcpas/">https://www.instagram.com/grfcpas/</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Jackie on LinkedIn at: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-cardello-grf/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackie-cardello-grf/</a></li>
</ul>
Join the Conversation The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:
Chat With Leaders Media <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/</a> and End of the Line Productions <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/</a>.&nbsp;

Jackie Cardello

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Kevin Clegg, CEO of Clegg Auto, shares his journey of transitioning his family's auto shops into the first employee ownership trust holding company in the U.S., exploring how the care factor drives meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss transitioning an exit strategy into a daily operating model, guiding employees to own their own lives before owning a company, and replacing traditional management with a 200% accountability culture, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.

Key Takeaways
Transitioning to an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT) protects an organization’s mission in perpetuity, ensuring the business remains evergreen and cannot be sold again. 
True company ownership requires employees to first own their lives and careers by identifying what they care about most and aligning their vocational track with those values. 
Traditional management can be replaced by a 200% accountability model where team members are 100% committed to their roles and 100% committed to keeping their peers accountable through peer coaching.

Resources Mentioned
Visit Clegg Auto at https://cleggauto.com/ 
Follow Kevin on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clegg-59655a/ 

Join the Conversation
The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, Kevin Clegg, CEO of Clegg Auto, shares his journey of transitioning his family's auto shops into the first employee ownership trust holding company in the U.S., exploring how the care factor drives meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss transitioning an exit strategy into a daily operating model, guiding employees to own their own lives before owning a company, and replacing traditional management with a 200% accountability culture, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Transitioning to an Employee Ownership Trust (EOT) protects an organization&rsquo;s mission in perpetuity, ensuring the business remains evergreen and cannot be sold again.&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">True company ownership requires employees to first own their lives and careers by identifying what they care about most and aligning their vocational track with those values.&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Traditional management can be replaced by a 200% accountability model where team members are 100% committed to their roles and 100% committed to keeping their peers accountable through peer coaching.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit Clegg Auto at <a href="https://cleggauto.com/">https://cleggauto.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Kevin on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clegg-59655a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clegg-59655a/</a>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
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Kevin Clegg

In this episode of The Steward Chair, host Jeff Bond sits down with Steve Kruger, the fourth-generation leader of L.E. Schwartz & Son—a commercial roofing legacy that has anchored the Georgia landscape since 1910. Steve shares the raw reality of earning respect on hot roofs rather than leaning on a bloodline, and how a 116-year-old firm successfully navigates crises by choosing long-term integrity over the "quick fix" challenge.

Later in the episode, the conversation shifts to the future of the company as Steve is joined by his son, Michael Kruger. Representing the fifth generation, Michael talks about the unique synergy of working alongside his father and grandfather, balancing historic family traditions with modern technology, and leading a century-old mission with "pull instead of push".

Key Takeaways
Earning Leadership Through Shared Labor: True stewardship in a hands-on trade isn't handed down through a bloodline; it is validated by serving on the front lines to gain deep empathy and mutual respect for the people doing the daily work .
The "Golden Rule" in Crisis Management: Preserving a century-old reputation means choosing long-term success over short-term gains, proving that there is no right way to do the wrong thing when navigating business challenges with clients and employees .
Deepening Impact through Local Convening: True community stewardship moves beyond stilted, transactional relationships by giving back, celebrating shared history, and intentionally gathering diverse groups to build a lasting local bond .

Resources Mentioned
Visit L.E. Schwartz & Son: http://www.leschwartz.com/
Follow Steve Kruger on LinkedIn: Steve Kruger
Follow L.E. Schwartz & Son on social media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/l-e-schwartz-&-son-inc-/

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, host Jeff Bond sits down with Steve Kruger, the fourth-generation leader of L.E. Schwartz &amp; Son&mdash;a commercial roofing legacy that has anchored the Georgia landscape since 1910. Steve shares the raw reality of earning respect on hot roofs rather than leaning on a bloodline, and how a 116-year-old firm successfully navigates crises by choosing long-term integrity over the "quick fix" challenge.
Later in the episode, the conversation shifts to the future of the company as Steve is joined by his son, Michael Kruger. Representing the fifth generation, Michael talks about the unique synergy of working alongside his father and grandfather, balancing historic family traditions with modern technology, and leading a century-old mission with "pull instead of push".
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Earning Leadership Through Shared Labor: True stewardship in a hands-on trade isn't handed down through a bloodline; it is validated by serving on the front lines to gain deep empathy and mutual respect for the people doing the daily work .</li>
<li aria-level="1">The "Golden Rule" in Crisis Management: Preserving a century-old reputation means choosing long-term success over short-term gains, proving that there is no right way to do the wrong thing when navigating business challenges with clients and employees .</li>
<li aria-level="1">Deepening Impact through Local Convening: True community stewardship moves beyond stilted, transactional relationships by giving back, celebrating shared history, and intentionally gathering diverse groups to build a lasting local bond .</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit L.E. Schwartz &amp; Son: <a href="https://www.leschwartz.com/">http://www.leschwartz.com/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Steve Kruger on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-kruger-05b1898/">Steve Kruger</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow L.E. Schwartz &amp; Son on social media:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/leschwartz/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/l-e-schwartz-&amp;-son-inc-/</a></li>
</ul>
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Steve Kruger

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Garry Ridge, Culture Coach and Former Chairman and CEO of WD-40 Company, shares their journey of transitioning from a "command and control" leader to a servant leader, exploring how "the will of the people" drives meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss the specific algorithm Garry used to grow WD-40's market cap from $300M to $3.5B, the defining moments of cultural safety during global crises, and why a leader's number one responsibility is to be a learner and a teacher. This conversation provides actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.  

Key Takeaways
The Algorithm for Culture: Sustainable success is built through the formula of Values + Behavior x Consistency. Consistency is the "magic word" that prevents cultural toxins from eroding the organization.
Profit as Applause: Shift the focus from the bottom line to the people; profit is the natural "applause" that follows when employees feel safe, seen, and empowered to do their best work.
Leading Like a "Donkey": Effective stewardship requires the humility and reliability of a donkey—carrying the load and helping others reach their destination rather than seeking the spotlight.

Resources Mentioned
Visit https://thelearningmoment.net/ 
Follow The Learning Moment on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-moment/ 
Visit https://www.wd40.com/ 
Follow WD-40 on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wd-40-company/ 
Follow Garry Ridge on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/garryridge/ 

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, Garry Ridge, Culture Coach and Former Chairman and CEO of WD-40 Company, shares their journey of transitioning from a "command and control" leader to a servant leader, exploring how "the will of the people" drives meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss the specific algorithm Garry used to grow WD-40's market cap from $300M to $3.5B, the defining moments of cultural safety during global crises, and why a leader's number one responsibility is to be a learner and a teacher. This conversation provides actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The Algorithm for Culture: Sustainable success is built through the formula of Values + Behavior x Consistency. Consistency is the "magic word" that prevents cultural toxins from eroding the organization.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Profit as Applause: Shift the focus from the bottom line to the people; profit is the natural "applause" that follows when employees feel safe, seen, and empowered to do their best work.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Leading Like a "Donkey": Effective stewardship requires the humility and reliability of a donkey&mdash;carrying the load and helping others reach their destination rather than seeking the spotlight.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://thelearningmoment.net/">https://thelearningmoment.net/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow The Learning Moment on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-moment/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-moment/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://www.wd40.com/">https://www.wd40.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow WD-40 on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wd-40-company/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/wd-40-company/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Garry Ridge on LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/garryridge/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/garryridge/</a>&nbsp;</li>
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Garry Ridge

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Brad Herrmann and Hai Nguyen, Co-founders of Text-Em-All, share their journey of rewriting the SaaS success script by prioritizing greatness over growth and people over profit. They explore how an audacious 100-year vision and the transition to an employee ownership trust drive meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss the intentional process of leaders defining "enough," the creation of an employee-driven culture code, and how shared ownership acts as a "silo buster" for political friction. This conversation provides actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and building an organization that remains a joy to do business with.

Key Takeaways
Defining "Enough" as a Leadership Prerequisite: Transitioning to an employee ownership trust requires founders to confront personal concepts of security and scarcity to determine what financial outcome is "enough" to safeguard the company's future.
Institutionalizing Culture Through Documentation: Moving beyond oral legend to a written "Culture Code" allows a company to hire, coach, and even fire based on shared values like authenticity, compassion, and shared excellence.
Shared Ownership as a Unifying Factor: Employee ownership aligns the entire team around the company's ultimate bottom line, ensuring that business decisions and product development are driven by the best ideas rather than internal politics .

Resources Mentioned
Visit Text-Em-All: https://www.text-em-all.com/
Follow Brad Herrmann on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradherrmann/
Follow Hai Nguyen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hainguyen/
Follow Text-Em-All on social media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/textemall/
Twitter / X: https://x.com/textemall
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/textemall/

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, Brad Herrmann and Hai Nguyen, Co-founders of Text-Em-All, share their journey of rewriting the SaaS success script by prioritizing greatness over growth and people over profit. They explore how an audacious 100-year vision and the transition to an employee ownership trust drive meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss the intentional process of leaders defining "enough," the creation of an employee-driven culture code, and how shared ownership acts as a "silo buster" for political friction. This conversation provides actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and building an organization that remains a joy to do business with.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Defining "Enough" as a Leadership Prerequisite: Transitioning to an employee ownership trust requires founders to confront personal concepts of security and scarcity to determine what financial outcome is "enough" to safeguard the company's future.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Institutionalizing Culture Through Documentation: Moving beyond oral legend to a written "Culture Code" allows a company to hire, coach, and even fire based on shared values like authenticity, compassion, and shared excellence.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Shared Ownership as a Unifying Factor: Employee ownership aligns the entire team around the company's ultimate bottom line, ensuring that business decisions and product development are driven by the best ideas rather than internal politics .</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit Text-Em-All:<a href="https://www.text-em-all.com/"> https://www.text-em-all.com/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Brad Herrmann on LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradherrmann/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradherrmann/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Hai Nguyen on LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=https://www.linkedin.com/in/hainguyen/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/hainguyen/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Text-Em-All on social media:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/textemall/</li>
<li aria-level="2">Twitter / X:<a href="https://x.com/textemall"> https://x.com/textemall</a></li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/textemall/"> https://www.instagram.com/textemall/</a></li>
</ul>
</ul>
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Brad Herrmann and Hai Nguyen

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Jason Dressel, CEO at History Factory , shares his journey of helping iconic brands mine their heritage to drive future performance, exploring how preserving corporate memory drives meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss the $1 trillion cost of corporate amnesia , the launch of the AI platform Chronicle , and why a leader’s most profound obligation is to be the ultimate steward of their organization’s story, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.

Key Takeaways
The risks of corporate amnesia and strategic drift: Losing institutional knowledge during leadership transitions and rapid growth costs enterprises an estimated $1 trillion in wasted productivity.
How successful companies balance heritage and innovation: Long-term resilience requires leaders to stay tethered to their organization's unique "superpower" while remaining agile enough to navigate modern technological disruption.
The role of AI in preserving institutional knowledge: Specialized AI acts as a "truth engine" by grounding data in verified, handcrafted sources to eliminate hallucinations and provide a clear trail back to original historical evidence.

Resources Mentioned
Visit: https://www.historyfactory.com/staff/jason-dressel/
Follow Shane on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/jason-dressel-1634484/
Follow History Factor on social media at:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/history-factory/
Twitter / X: https://x.com/historyfactory
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehistoryfactory/?hl=en

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, Jason Dressel, CEO at History Factory , shares his journey of helping iconic brands mine their heritage to drive future performance, exploring how preserving corporate memory drives meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss the $1 trillion cost of corporate amnesia , the launch of the AI platform Chronicle , and why a leader&rsquo;s most profound obligation is to be the ultimate steward of their organization&rsquo;s story, providing actionable takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The risks of corporate amnesia and strategic drift: Losing institutional knowledge during leadership transitions and rapid growth costs enterprises an estimated $1 trillion in wasted productivity.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How successful companies balance heritage and innovation: Long-term resilience requires leaders to stay tethered to their organization's unique "superpower" while remaining agile enough to navigate modern technological disruption.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The role of AI in preserving institutional knowledge: Specialized AI acts as a "truth engine" by grounding data in verified, handcrafted sources to eliminate hallucinations and provide a clear trail back to original historical evidence.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit: <a href="https://www.historyfactory.com/staff/jason-dressel/">https://www.historyfactory.com/staff/jason-dressel/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Shane on LinkedIn at <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/jason-dressel-1634484/">linkedin.com/in/jason-dressel-1634484/</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow History Factor on social media at:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/history-factory/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/history-factory/</a></li>
<li aria-level="2">Twitter / X: <a href="https://x.com/historyfactory">https://x.com/historyfactory</a></li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thehistoryfactory/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/thehistoryfactory/?hl=en</a></li>
</ul>
</ul>
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Jason Dressel

In this episode of The Steward Chair, John Newland, CEO at JOMA Construction, shares his journey of transitioning from a small home-flipping operation to a 100% employee-owned firm, exploring how the Greek concept of eudaimoniadrives meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss the philosophy of"getting better before getting bigger," the rigorous process of empower every team member, the establishment of the ESOP, and how true legacy is built by elevating others to lead the organization forward.

 

Key Takeaways
The Power of Eudaimonia: Integrating a guiding principle of "human flourishing" and contentment into the daily operations and client interactions of a construction business.
Democratizing Ownership: Why JOMA chose a 100% ESOP model to ensure all stakeholders benefit from the company's success without taking on individual financial risk.
Leadership as Presence: Utilizing daily affirmations and personal poise to remain grounded and "fully present" within the inherent chaos of the business world.

 

Resources Mentioned


Visit https://jomaconstruction.com/


Follow John Newland on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnewland/


Follow JOMA Construction on social media:


Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/jomaconstruction


Facebook: facebook.com/jomaconstruction


YouTube: youtube.com/jomaconstruction


Instagram: instagram.com/jomaconstruction


Subscribe to JOMA’s mailing list at http://jomaconstruction.com/learn/jomail-archive

 

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In this episode of The Steward Chair, John Newland, CEO at JOMA Construction, shares his journey of transitioning from a small home-flipping operation to a 100% employee-owned firm, exploring how the Greek concept of eudaimonia drives meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss the philosophy of "getting better before getting bigger," the rigorous process of empower every team member, the establishment of the ESOP, and how true legacy is built by elevating others to lead the organization forward.
&nbsp;
Key Takeaways
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<li data-prosemirror-content-type="node" data-prosemirror-node-name="paragraph" data-prosemirror-node-block="true">The Power of Eudaimonia: Integrating a guiding principle of "human flourishing" and contentment into the daily operations and client interactions of a construction business.</li>
<li data-prosemirror-content-type="node" data-prosemirror-node-name="paragraph" data-prosemirror-node-block="true">Democratizing Ownership: Why JOMA chose a 100% ESOP model to ensure all stakeholders benefit from the company's success without taking on individual financial risk.</li>
<li data-prosemirror-content-type="node" data-prosemirror-node-name="paragraph" data-prosemirror-node-block="true">Leadership as Presence: Utilizing daily affirmations and personal poise to remain grounded and "fully present" within the inherent chaos of the business world.</li>
</ul>
&nbsp;
Resources Mentioned
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Visit <a href="https://jomaconstruction.com/" data-prosemirror-content-type="mark" data-prosemirror-mark-name="link">https://jomaconstruction.com/</a>
</li>
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Follow John Newland on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnewland/" data-prosemirror-content-type="mark" data-prosemirror-mark-name="link">https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnewland/</a>
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Follow JOMA Construction on social media:
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Linkedin: <a href="http://linkedin.com/company/jomaconstruction" data-prosemirror-content-type="mark" data-prosemirror-mark-name="link">linkedin.com/company/jomaconstruction</a>
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Facebook: <a href="http://facebook.com/jomaconstruction" data-prosemirror-content-type="mark" data-prosemirror-mark-name="link">facebook.com/jomaconstruction</a>
</li>
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YouTube: <a href="http://youtube.com/jomaconstruction" data-prosemirror-content-type="mark" data-prosemirror-mark-name="link">youtube.com/jomaconstruction</a>
</li>
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Instagram: <a href="http://instagram.com/jomaconstruction" data-prosemirror-content-type="mark" data-prosemirror-mark-name="link">instagram.com/jomaconstruction</a>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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Subscribe to JOMA&rsquo;s mailing list at <a href="http://jomaconstruction.com/learn/jomail-archive" data-inline-card="" data-card-data="">http://jomaconstruction.com/learn/jomail-archive</a>
</li>
</ul>
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John Newland

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Enrique Alvarez shares his journey as a business leader, exploring how embracing challenges, learning from mistakes, and empowering teams drives meaningful, long-term success.

We discuss how creating a culture of transparency, shared learning, and problem-solving helps organizations grow stronger—providing practical takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.

Key Takeaways
Facing challenges and making mistakes is part of the job—and growth comes from how we resolve problems.
Openly sharing experiences and failures strengthens teams and accelerates learning.
Continuous improvement is a collective effort built on trust, collaboration, and accountability.

Resources Mentioned
Visit https://www.linkedin.com/company/vector-global-logistics/.
Follow Enrique on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/enrique-alvarez-64332a2/

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The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:

Chat With Leaders Media https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/ and End of the Line Productions https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/. 

Elevate your podcast, company meeting, or industry event strategies to better engage stakeholders and drive meaningful growth! Visit ChatWithLeaders.com to learn more about how we can help.

In this episode of The Steward Chair, Enrique Alvarez shares his journey as a business leader, exploring how embracing challenges, learning from mistakes, and empowering teams drives meaningful, long-term success.
We discuss how creating a culture of transparency, shared learning, and problem-solving helps organizations grow stronger&mdash;providing practical takeaways for leaders committed to stewardship, integrity, and impact.
Key Takeaways
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Facing challenges and making mistakes is part of the job&mdash;and growth comes from how we resolve problems.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Openly sharing experiences and failures strengthens teams and accelerates learning.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Continuous improvement is a collective effort built on trust, collaboration, and accountability.</li>
</ul>
Resources Mentioned
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/vector-global-logistics/.">https://www.linkedin.com/company/vector-global-logistics/.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Enrique on LinkedIn at: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/enrique-alvarez-64332a2/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/enrique-alvarez-64332a2/</a></li>
</ul>
Join the Conversation The Steward Chair is about equipping and inspiring business leaders to build organizations that stand the test of time. If this episode resonated with you, share your biggest takeaway and tag us on LinkedIn:
Chat With Leaders Media <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/chatwithleaders/</a> and End of the Line Productions <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/end-of-the-line-productions/</a>.&nbsp;
Elevate your podcast, company meeting, or industry event strategies to better engage stakeholders and drive meaningful growth! Visit <a href="https://chatwithleaders.com">ChatWithLeaders.com</a> to learn more about how we can help.

Enrique Alvarez

The Steward Chair is a podcast that explores business leadership as stewardship – the responsibility of guiding organizations, people, and industries with integrity, long-term thinking, and a commitment to doing good while doing well.

Through deep, candid conversations with CEOs, Presidents and Founders that have stood the test of time, we unpack the challenges, decisions, and strategies that define values-driven leadership. This is a space for leaders who recognize that success is about more than personal achievement – it’s about leaving a lasting, positive impact on their organizations and communities.

Each episode provides real-world insights on how to navigate key business decisions while maintaining ethical integrity, long-term sustainability, and a legacy-driven mindset.

This show is produced in collaboration between Chat With Leaders Media and End of the Line Productions. 

The Steward Chair is a podcast that explores business leadership as stewardship &ndash; the responsibility of guiding organizations, people, and industries with integrity, long-term thinking, and a commitment to doing good while doing well.
Through deep, candid conversations with CEOs, Presidents and Founders that have stood the test of time, we unpack the challenges, decisions, and strategies that define values-driven leadership. This is a space for leaders who recognize that success is about more than personal achievement &ndash; it&rsquo;s&nbsp;about leaving a lasting, positive impact on their organizations and communities.
Each episode provides real-world insights on how to navigate key business decisions while maintaining ethical integrity, long-term sustainability, and a legacy-driven mindset.
This show is produced in collaboration between <a href="https://chatwithleaders.com/">Chat With Leaders Media</a> and <a href="https://www.eotlproductions.com/">End of the Line Productions</a>.&nbsp;

The Steward Chair is a podcast that explores leadership as stewardship—the responsibility of guiding organizations, people, and industries with integrity, long-term thinking, and a commitment to doing good while doing well.

The Steward Chair

In an age of constant online noise, leaders face a tough question: Is social media helping or hurting your leadership impact? In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond unpack the tension between showing up online with purpose and getting pulled into reactive digital habits that drain time and energy.

Together, they explore:


Why most online debates reinforce division instead of driving resolution


How to use your platform to make values visible and inspire trust inside your organization


The importance of knowing your intent: Are you educating, persuading, or defending?


A practical framework: PREP (Pause, Reflect, Engage Strategically, Prioritize Real Conversations)


How one CEO’s thoughtful post sparked meaningful dialogue—and deepened employee connection

If you're navigating how to show up online as a purpose-driven leader, this conversation offers clarity and practical tips for influence over reaction.

Learn more at peoplefirstelevation.com

In an age of constant online noise, leaders face a tough question: Is social media helping or hurting your leadership impact? In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond unpack the tension between showing up online with purpose and getting pulled into reactive digital habits that drain time and energy.
Together, they explore:
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<li data-start="582" data-end="662">
Why most online debates reinforce division instead of driving resolution
</li>
<li data-start="663" data-end="761">
How to use your platform to make values visible and inspire trust inside your organization
</li>
<li data-start="762" data-end="853">
The importance of knowing your intent: Are you educating, persuading, or defending?
</li>
<li data-start="854" data-end="959">
A practical framework: PREP (Pause, Reflect, Engage Strategically, Prioritize Real Conversations)
</li>
<li data-start="960" data-end="1052">
How one CEO&rsquo;s thoughtful post sparked meaningful dialogue&mdash;and deepened employee connection
</li>
</ul>
If you're navigating how to show up online as a purpose-driven leader, this conversation offers clarity and practical tips for influence over reaction.
Learn more at&nbsp;<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com" data-start="1227" data-end="1287">peoplefirstelevation.com</a>

"Social Media - Positive Discourse or Negative Distraction?" with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

In today’s polarized world, how can leaders lead with integrity while honoring diverse perspectives? In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond dive into the role that faith and values play in shaping strong leadership and sustainable workplace cultures.

Together, they explore:


The difference between values-based leadership and ideological leadership


How to integrate deeply held beliefs while creating inclusive environments


Why ethical decision-making and consistency build trust across teams


The role of leaders in modeling behavior that reflects company values


How clarity in your personal and organizational values provides long-term stability in uncertain times

You’ll walk away with inspiration and practical ideas for making your leadership values visible—not just in what you say, but in how you lead.

Learn more at peoplefirstelevation.com

In today&rsquo;s polarized world, how can leaders lead with integrity while honoring diverse perspectives? In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond dive into the role that faith and values play in shaping strong leadership and sustainable workplace cultures.
Together, they explore:
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<li data-start="560" data-end="641">
The difference between values-based leadership and ideological leadership
</li>
<li data-start="642" data-end="724">
How to integrate deeply held beliefs while creating inclusive environments
</li>
<li data-start="725" data-end="801">
Why ethical decision-making and consistency build trust across teams
</li>
<li data-start="802" data-end="875">
The role of leaders in modeling behavior that reflects company values
</li>
<li data-start="876" data-end="980">
How clarity in your personal and organizational values provides long-term stability in uncertain times
</li>
</ul>
You&rsquo;ll walk away with inspiration and practical ideas for making your leadership values visible&mdash;not just in what you say, but in how you lead.
Learn more at&nbsp;<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com" data-start="1146" data-end="1206">peoplefirstelevation.com</a>

Faith, Values, and Leadership with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

In a world filled with noise, pressure, and constant change, how can leaders shift from a reactive mindset to one that drives real impact? In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond explore the power of purpose-driven leadership and why anchoring your decisions in mission and values is essential for long-term resilience.

Together, they unpack:


The cost of reactive leadership and how it erodes culture


Why values act as your leadership anchor—especially in times of turbulence


A practical framework to help leaders slow down, refocus, and lead with clarity: P.A.T.H. (Pause, Align, Think Strategically, Hold Steady)


How small, intentional shifts can move you from panic to purpose


The importance of giving yourself grace in the process

Whether you’re a seasoned executive or leading a small team, this episode offers a timely reset to help you lead from your core, not your chaos.

✨ Learn more at peoplefirstelevation.com

In a world filled with noise, pressure, and constant change, how can leaders shift from a reactive mindset to one that drives real impact? In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond explore the power of purpose-driven leadership and why anchoring your decisions in mission and values is essential for long-term resilience.
Together, they unpack:
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<li data-start="606" data-end="667">
The cost of reactive leadership and how it erodes culture
</li>
<li data-start="668" data-end="750">
Why values act as your leadership anchor&mdash;especially in times of turbulence
</li>
<li data-start="751" data-end="897">
A practical framework to help leaders slow down, refocus, and lead with clarity: P.A.T.H. (Pause, Align, Think Strategically, Hold Steady)
</li>
<li data-start="898" data-end="966">
How small, intentional shifts can move you from panic to purpose
</li>
<li data-start="967" data-end="1023">
The importance of giving yourself grace in the process
</li>
</ul>
Whether you&rsquo;re a seasoned executive or leading a small team, this episode offers a timely reset to help you lead from your core, not your chaos.
✨ Learn more at <a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com" data-start="1191" data-end="1251">peoplefirstelevation.com</a>

Moving from Reaction to Impact with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond tackle one of the most challenging—and essential—skills for People Experience leaders: how to approach difficult conversations with empathy, clarity, and confidence.

Whether it's a one-on-one with a struggling team member, a tense group discussion, or a cross-cultural misunderstanding, Vicki and Jeff offer practical frameworks to help you lead through conflict without creating division.

In this conversation, they explore:


Why avoiding conflict drives it underground—and how leaders can defuse it instead


How to build psychological safety as a foundation for honest dialogue


The impact of cultural communication styles on conflict resolution


Tools and techniques like the Four-Second Rule, the phrase “Tell me more,” and the AAPP framework (Acknowledge, Agree, Pivot, Perspective)


The power of curiosity, emotional regulation, and listening as trust-building tools

This episode is a must-listen for leaders committed to strengthening culture, modeling openness, and building resilient, people-first teams.

Learn more or reach out at peoplefirstelevation.com

In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond tackle one of the most challenging&mdash;and essential&mdash;skills for People Experience leaders: how to approach difficult conversations with empathy, clarity, and confidence.
Whether it's a one-on-one with a struggling team member, a tense group discussion, or a cross-cultural misunderstanding, Vicki and Jeff offer practical frameworks to help you lead through conflict without creating division.
In this conversation, they explore:
<ul data-start="730" data-end="1211">
<li data-start="730" data-end="819">
Why avoiding conflict drives it underground&mdash;and how leaders can defuse it instead
</li>
<li data-start="820" data-end="897">
How to build psychological safety as a foundation for honest dialogue
</li>
<li data-start="898" data-end="972">
The impact of cultural communication styles on conflict resolution
</li>
<li data-start="973" data-end="1123">
Tools and techniques like the Four-Second Rule, the phrase &ldquo;Tell me more,&rdquo; and the AAPP framework (Acknowledge, Agree, Pivot, Perspective)
</li>
<li data-start="1124" data-end="1211">
The power of curiosity, emotional regulation, and listening as trust-building tools
</li>
</ul>
This episode is a must-listen for leaders committed to strengthening culture, modeling openness, and building resilient, people-first teams.
Learn more or reach out at&nbsp;<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com" data-start="1388" data-end="1448">peoplefirstelevation.com</a>

Navigating Difficult Conversations in the Workplace with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond return to the mic after a short hiatus to kick off a timely new series: The Resilient People Leader. In the face of global uncertainty, political tension, and workplace fatigue, they explore what it truly means to lead with hope as a strategy—not just a feeling.

Together, they share real-world insights on:


Why employees leave uncertainty more than they leave companies


The role of steady, honest, and humble communication in building psychological safety


How hope-driven leadership can inspire clarity, connection, and culture—even in turbulent times


A practical framework for leaders: The Three H’s – Honesty, Humility, and Hope

If you're feeling the weight of leadership right now, this conversation is a reminder that showing up with authenticity and intention can make a real difference.

Let’s build better all-hands meetings and better workplaces—together.
Visit peoplefirstelevation.com to learn more.

In this episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond return to the mic after a short hiatus to kick off a timely new series:&nbsp;The Resilient People Leader. In the face of global uncertainty, political tension, and workplace fatigue, they explore what it truly means to lead with hope as a strategy&mdash;not just a feeling.
Together, they share real-world insights on:
<ul data-start="638" data-end="983">
<li data-start="638" data-end="704">
Why employees leave uncertainty more than they leave companies
</li>
<li data-start="705" data-end="798">
The role of steady, honest, and humble communication in building psychological safety
</li>
<li data-start="799" data-end="898">
How hope-driven leadership can inspire clarity, connection, and culture&mdash;even in turbulent times
</li>
<li data-start="899" data-end="983">
A practical framework for leaders: The Three H&rsquo;s &ndash; Honesty, Humility, and Hope
</li>
</ul>
If you're feeling the weight of leadership right now, this conversation is a reminder that showing up with authenticity and intention can make a real difference.
Let&rsquo;s build better all-hands meetings and better workplaces&mdash;together. Visit <a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com" data-start="1515" data-end="1575">peoplefirstelevation.com</a> to learn more.

Leading with Hope in Times of Change with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

On today’s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, discuss inclusive leadership in a global context. They debunk common myths about inclusion and provide strategies for enhancing cross-cultural communication. You’ll hear how listening, embracing different cultures, and being intentional about communication can enhance your leadership.

Stay tuned to learn how to integrate more inclusivity into your leadership practices for your distributed and global teams.

Resources related to this episode
Visit PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com

Credits
Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com
Theme Music by Tiny Music from Pond5.com

On today&rsquo;s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, discuss inclusive leadership in a global context. They debunk common myths about inclusion and provide strategies for enhancing cross-cultural communication. You&rsquo;ll hear how listening, embracing different cultures, and being intentional about communication can enhance your leadership.
Stay tuned to learn how to integrate more inclusivity into your leadership practices for your distributed and global teams.
Resources related to this episode
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com"> PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com</a></li>
</ul>
Credits
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Produced by<a href="https://chatwithleaders.com"> ChatWithLeadersMedia.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Theme Music by<a href="https://www.pond5.com/artist/tinymusic"> Tiny Music</a> from Pond5.com</li>
</ul>

Inclusive Leadership in a Global Context with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

Disconnection among global team members can cost companies thousands in lost productivity every year? Yet, a cohesive and well-connected global team can turn this around, creating a more engaged and productive workforce.

On today’s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, discuss building and sustaining global team cohesion. Vicki and Jeff debunk common myths about global teams and provide practical strategies for building high-performing teams. You’ll learn the importance of understanding and respecting cultural differences, ways to foster inclusivity and psychological safety, and much more.

Stay tuned to hear practical tips and insights to build global team cohesion within your organization.

Resources related to this episode
Visit PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com

Credits
Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com
Theme Music by Tiny Music from Pond5.com

Disconnection among global team members can cost companies thousands in lost productivity every year? Yet, a cohesive and well-connected global team can turn this around, creating a more engaged and productive workforce.
On today&rsquo;s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, discuss building and sustaining global team cohesion. Vicki and Jeff debunk common myths about global teams and provide practical strategies for building high-performing teams. You&rsquo;ll learn the importance of understanding and respecting cultural differences, ways to foster inclusivity and psychological safety, and much more.
Stay tuned to hear practical tips and insights to build global team cohesion within your organization.
Resources related to this episode
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com"> PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com</a></li>
</ul>
Credits
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Produced by<a href="https://chatwithleaders.com"> ChatWithLeadersMedia.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Theme Music by<a href="https://www.pond5.com/artist/tinymusic"> Tiny Music</a> from Pond5.com</li>
</ul>

Building and Sustaining Global Team Cohesion with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

Data shows that a breakdown in cross-cultural communication can lead to missed deadlines, reduced team morale, and even financial losses. So, how can you effectively navigate and improve cross-cultural communication within your organization?

Today, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond continue this discussion in Part 2 of this conversation on navigating cross-cultural communication. In part 1, they broke down a few of the most common myths and talked about the first of four key strategies for enhancing cross-cultural communication for organizational success. Today, Vicki and Jeff will continue with key strategy number two and leave you with practical tips for elevating your team’s cross-cultural communication styles.

Tune in to be equipped with tools for enhancing and elevating your organization’s cross-cultural communication and boost overall success.

If you haven’t listened to Part 1 of this conversation, be sure to go back and check that out.

Resources related to this episode
Visit PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com
Listen to Part 1 of this conversation (Episode 20)

Credits
Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com
Theme Music by Tiny Music from Pond5.com

Data shows that a breakdown in cross-cultural communication can lead to missed deadlines, reduced team morale, and even financial losses. So, how can you effectively navigate and improve cross-cultural communication within your organization?
Today, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond continue this discussion in Part 2 of this conversation on navigating cross-cultural communication. In part 1, they broke down a few of the most common myths and talked about the first of four key strategies for enhancing cross-cultural communication for organizational success. Today, Vicki and Jeff will continue with key strategy number two and leave you with practical tips for elevating your team&rsquo;s cross-cultural communication styles.
Tune in to be equipped with tools for enhancing and elevating your organization&rsquo;s cross-cultural communication and boost overall success.
If you haven&rsquo;t listened to Part 1 of this conversation, be sure to go back and check that out.
Resources related to this episode
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com"> PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/the-people-experience-pulse/s4s-vicki-jeff-020">Part 1 of this conversation (Episode 20)</a></li>
</ul>
Credits
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Produced by<a href="https://chatwithleaders.com"> ChatWithLeadersMedia.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Theme Music by<a href="https://www.pond5.com/artist/tinymusic"> Tiny Music</a> from Pond5.com</li>
</ul>

Navigating Cross-Cultural Communication, Part 2 with Vicki and Jeff

Data shows that a breakdown in cross-cultural communication can lead to missed deadlines, reduced team morale, and even financial losses. So, how can you effectively navigate and improve cross-cultural communication within your organization?

On today’s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, discuss just that in Part 1 of this two-part discussion on navigating cross-cultural communication. During today’s conversation, they will break down a few of the most common myths and talk about the first of four key strategies for enhancing cross-cultural communication for organizational success.

Tune in to hear where many people, maybe even you, get interacting with people from different cultures wrong and ways to make those communications more productive.

Be sure to subscribe to The People Experience Pulse podcast to catch Part 2 of this podcast.

Resources related to this episode
Visit PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com
Listen to Episode 19 featuring Melissa Hahn

Credits
Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com
Theme Music by Tiny Music from Pond5.com

Data shows that a breakdown in cross-cultural communication can lead to missed deadlines, reduced team morale, and even financial losses. So, how can you effectively navigate and improve cross-cultural communication within your organization?
On today&rsquo;s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, discuss just that in Part 1 of this two-part discussion on navigating cross-cultural communication. During today&rsquo;s conversation, they will break down a few of the most common myths and talk about the first of four key strategies for enhancing cross-cultural communication for organizational success.
Tune in to hear where many people, maybe even you, get interacting with people from different cultures wrong and ways to make those communications more productive.
Be sure to subscribe to The People Experience Pulse podcast to catch Part 2 of this podcast.
Resources related to this episode
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com"> PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/the-people-experience-pulse/melissa-hahn-019">Episode 19 featuring Melissa Hahn</a></li>
</ul>
Credits
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Produced by<a href="https://chatwithleaders.com"> ChatWithLeadersMedia.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Theme Music by<a href="https://www.pond5.com/artist/tinymusic"> Tiny Music</a> from Pond5.com</li>
</ul>

Navigating Cross-Cultural Communication, Part 1 with Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond

How can you effectively navigate and foster collaboration, adaptation, and thriving across cultures within your distributed workforce?

In today’s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson chats with Melissa Hahn, Intercultural Consultant at Hahn Cultural Consulting, Lecturer at the American University School of International Service, and co-author of the new book, Forging Bonds in a Global Workforce. Melissa helps people collaborate, adapt, and thrive across cultures, whether they are going abroad, returning home, working on global teams, engaging with culture in their own community, or just trying to understand American culture better.

Melissa and Vicki discuss the challenges and importance of forging bonds in a global workforce. You’ll hear Melissa’s journey of discovering the gap between learning about a culture and actually experiencing it, the challenges of cultural differences that arise in global teams, and the impact understanding similarities and differences can have in your workplace.

Tune in to hear practical advice for navigating cultural differences in distributed teams with Melissa Hahn.

Resources related to this episode
Visit https://www.hahncultural.com/ 
Follow Melissa at:
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissahahn/ 
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/HahnCultural/
Read Forging Bonds in a Global Workforce: Build Rapport, Camaraderie, and Optimal Performance No Matter the Time Zone
Subscribe to Melissa’s newsletter https://hahn-cultural.ck.page/5myths 
Visit PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com

Credits
Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com
Theme Music by Tiny Music from Pond5.com

How can you effectively navigate and foster collaboration, adaptation, and thriving across cultures within your distributed workforce?
In today&rsquo;s episode, Vicki Flier Hudson chats with Melissa Hahn, Intercultural Consultant at Hahn Cultural Consulting, Lecturer at the American University School of International Service, and co-author of the new book, Forging Bonds in a Global Workforce. Melissa helps people collaborate, adapt, and thrive across cultures, whether they are going abroad, returning home, working on global teams, engaging with culture in their own community, or just trying to understand American culture better.
Melissa and Vicki discuss the challenges and importance of forging bonds in a global workforce. You&rsquo;ll hear Melissa&rsquo;s journey of discovering the gap between learning about a culture and actually experiencing it, the challenges of cultural differences that arise in global teams, and the impact understanding similarities and differences can have in your workplace.
Tune in to hear practical advice for navigating cultural differences in distributed teams with Melissa Hahn.
Resources related to this episode
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Visit <a href="https://www.hahncultural.com/">https://www.hahncultural.com/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Melissa at:</li>
<ul>
<li aria-level="2">LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissahahn/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissahahn/</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="2">Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/HahnCultural/">https://www.instagram.com/HahnCultural/</a></li>
</ul>
<li aria-level="1">Read <a href="https://www.mhprofessional.com/forging-bonds-in-a-global-workforce-build-rapport-camaraderie-and-optimal-performance-no-matter-9781265212339-usa">Forging Bonds in a Global Workforce: Build Rapport, Camaraderie, and Optimal Performance No Matter the Time Zone</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Subscribe to Melissa&rsquo;s newsletter <a href="https://hahn-cultural.ck.page/5myths">https://hahn-cultural.ck.page/5myths</a>&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Visit<a href="https://peoplefirstelevation.com"> PeopleFirstElevationTeam.com</a></li>
</ul>
Credits
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Produced by<a href="https://chatwithleaders.com"> ChatWithLeadersMedia.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Theme Music by<a href="https://www.pond5.com/artist/tinymusic"> Tiny Music</a> from Pond5.com</li>
</ul>

Connecting Across Cultures: Forging Bonds in a Global Workforce with Melissa Hahn

Embark on a transformative journey with 'The People Experience Pulse' (The PX Pulse), a podcast that delves deep into the evolving landscape of human experiences within the workplace. Co-hosted by Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, each episode brings to light the dynamic world of People, Employee, and Human Experience (PX/EX/HX) leadership.

Engage with global industry pioneers redefining workplace cultures, as they champion inclusion, amplify diverse voices, foster belonging, and craft extraordinary environments amidst constant change. Our conversations are filled with groundbreaking insights and practical solutions, tailored for both established leaders and those aspiring to influence workplace dynamics.

Tune in bi-weekly on Thursdays for new episodes that not only inform but inspire. Subscribe, listen, and share as we explore the latest strategies in PX/EX/HX leadership, available on all major podcast platforms.

'The People Experience Pulse,' produced by Chat With Leaders Media and creatively shaped by Executive Producer Quentin Thomas, represents the next chapter in our journey of exploring human experiences within the workplace. It's not just a podcast; it's a beacon for transformation in the future of work.

Embark on a transformative journey with 'The People Experience Pulse' (The PX Pulse), a podcast that delves deep into the evolving landscape of human experiences within the workplace. Co-hosted by Vicki Flier Hudson and Jeff Bond, each episode brings to light the dynamic world of People, Employee, and Human Experience (PX/EX/HX) leadership.
Engage with global industry pioneers redefining workplace cultures, as they champion inclusion, amplify diverse voices, foster belonging, and craft extraordinary environments amidst constant change. Our conversations are filled with groundbreaking insights and practical solutions, tailored for both established leaders and those aspiring to influence workplace dynamics.
Tune in bi-weekly on Thursdays for new episodes that not only inform but inspire. Subscribe, listen, and share as we explore the latest strategies in PX/EX/HX leadership, available on all major podcast platforms.
'The People Experience Pulse,' produced by Chat With Leaders Media and creatively shaped by Executive Producer Quentin Thomas, represents the next chapter in our journey of exploring human experiences within the workplace. It's not just a podcast; it's a beacon for transformation in the future of work.

Discover exceptional workplace cultures and inclusive experiences in 'The People Experience Pulse' podcast, spotlighting global PX/EX/HX leaders shaping the future of work.

The People Experience Pulse

In a world defined by disconnection, human connection is your most powerful asset in building companies that last. At Chat With Leaders Media, we're dedicated to helping you unlock that power by delivering actionable insights from leaders who are leveraging business as a force for good.

Through our podcasts – The Steward Chair, The People Experience Pulse, and B The Change Georgia – we cut through the noise to bring you candid, real-world strategies for building a better business. We explore what it takes to elevate people, grow your business with integrity, and build a legacy that goes beyond the bottom line.

This isn't just about inspiration; it's about giving you the tools to elevate your influence and make a tangible impact on your organization and the world.

In a world defined by disconnection, human connection is your most powerful asset in building companies that last. At Chat With Leaders Media, we're dedicated to helping you unlock that power by delivering actionable insights from leaders who are leveraging business as a force for good.
Through our podcasts &ndash; The Steward Chair, The People Experience Pulse, and B The Change Georgia &ndash; we cut through the noise to bring you candid, real-world strategies for building a better business. We explore what it takes to elevate people, grow your business with integrity, and build a legacy that goes beyond the bottom line.
This isn't just about inspiration; it's about giving you the tools to elevate your influence and make a tangible impact on your organization and the world.

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