I'll see a lot of people try to make a video. When I say try to make it like, it's like they sit down.

I'll see a lot of people try to make a video. When I say try to make it like, it's like they sit down.

I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's gonna be funny.

I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's gonna be funny.

Yeah, and it's that's not how it works all the time. You know what I'm saying, because a lot of people can tell when you try to do something, if something is naturally funny, you can tell. In order to be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game and record it. That five minutes of me just having fun change my life. I sat there for twenty five minutes trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here. Let me Dang, that wasn't smooth. I didn't go how it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white you sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you know what, man, let me just see how much time. I don't even care. That message is just to say, if you're gonna make content, please just be you. Do you, and it's gonna come out great. But I promise I don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you.

Yeah, and it's that's not how it works all the time. You know what I'm saying, because a lot of people can tell when you try to do something, if something is naturally funny, you can tell. In order to be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game and record it. That five minutes of me just having fun change my life. I sat there for twenty five minutes trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here. Let me Dang, that wasn't smooth. I didn't go how it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white you sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you know what, man, let me just see how much time. I don't even care. That message is just to say, if you're gonna make content, please just be you. Do you, and it's gonna come out great. But I promise I don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you.

Bro, everybody, Welcome to another episode of the Button Nomics podcast. I'm your host, Brandon Butler, founding CEO of Butter atl and today we got a tech Man in the building, tech Man himself, mister Julius Slater, Julie, How you doing, bro?

Bro, everybody, Welcome to another episode of the Button Nomics podcast. I'm your host, Brandon Butler, founding CEO of Butter atl and today we got a tech Man in the building, tech Man himself, mister Julius Slater, Julie, How you doing, bro?

I am blessed, I'm amazing, I feel great. I'm honored to be here. I appreciate you for having me on.

I am blessed, I'm amazing, I feel great. I'm honored to be here. I appreciate you for having me on.

Oh man, I appreciate you. I just I just saw Get it clear. Now we're going by We're going by Juice, We're going by tech Man. How would you like me to refer to you during the rest of this commed?

Oh man, I appreciate you. I just I just saw Get it clear. Now we're going by We're going by Juice, We're going by tech Man. How would you like me to refer to you during the rest of this commed?

You know what, Today I'm feeling a bit techy, So okay, let's let's keep it tech Man. Let's keep it tech Man.

You know what, Today I'm feeling a bit techy, So okay, let's let's keep it tech Man. Let's keep it tech Man.

I love it. I love it, sir. Now, I'm sure people will know who you are. I'm sure they've seen some of the videos and stuff like that. You know, the viral uh you know Star Wars video. You know what I'm saying, the VR stuff. But just so, so, who is tech Man?

I love it. I love it, sir. Now, I'm sure people will know who you are. I'm sure they've seen some of the videos and stuff like that. You know, the viral uh you know Star Wars video. You know what I'm saying, the VR stuff. But just so, so, who is tech Man?

Tech Man is an anomaly. Tech Man is so much. You get what I'm saying. Tech Man is an anime character, a superhero anti hero. Tech Man is tech Man is future me. Tech Man is everyone who I ever will be, all into one personified into my content.

Tech Man is an anomaly. Tech Man is so much. You get what I'm saying. Tech Man is an anime character, a superhero anti hero. Tech Man is tech Man is future me. Tech Man is everyone who I ever will be, all into one personified into my content.

That that is the deepest answer I've ever heard anybody. Again, I'm just I'm just gonna assume he just plugged into the You know, I don't know. Lawnmower Man might be before your time, Bro, but I'm just saying, go look up lawnmower Man. But I feel like you were plugged into the Internet the same way lawnmower Man was and scared the hell out of us back in the day.

That that is the deepest answer I've ever heard anybody. Again, I'm just I'm just gonna assume he just plugged into the You know, I don't know. Lawnmower Man might be before your time, Bro, but I'm just saying, go look up lawnmower Man. But I feel like you were plugged into the Internet the same way lawnmower Man was and scared the hell out of us back in the day.

You just put me on. I'm gonna go look up. I've never seen lawnmar Bro.

You just put me on. I'm gonna go look up. I've never seen lawnmar Bro.

It's crazy man. Like the short version of it, there's this guy he's like developing VR and all this stuff. This is like in the nineties lawnmower It's the movie is called lawnmore Man. I think there's a there's definitely a two. There might be a three. Also, the long story short, there's this guy he works for this tech company. He's developing like all these VR systems, and there's this guy that's like the lawnmower man outside. He's like a special needs dude, but he's like the lawnmower guy. So the guy says, well, look, I think this stuff can help anybody. So he basically gets the lawnmower guy to gree to like start doing tests with the VR. Long story short, lawnmower man like ends up becoming the Internet like some kind of way. And this is in the nineties, bro, Like some kind of what. He uploads his whole consciousness like into the Internet and begins becoming like scotting it and like killing people and taking over the world and all that. And they can't they can't destroy him, Like you never seen this move before.

It's crazy man. Like the short version of it, there's this guy he's like developing VR and all this stuff. This is like in the nineties lawnmower It's the movie is called lawnmore Man. I think there's a there's definitely a two. There might be a three. Also, the long story short, there's this guy he works for this tech company. He's developing like all these VR systems, and there's this guy that's like the lawnmower man outside. He's like a special needs dude, but he's like the lawnmower guy. So the guy says, well, look, I think this stuff can help anybody. So he basically gets the lawnmower guy to gree to like start doing tests with the VR. Long story short, lawnmower man like ends up becoming the Internet like some kind of way. And this is in the nineties, bro, Like some kind of what. He uploads his whole consciousness like into the Internet and begins becoming like scotting it and like killing people and taking over the world and all that. And they can't they can't destroy him, Like you never seen this move before.

No, But I'm about to watch it tonight. Bro.

No, But I'm about to watch it tonight. Bro.

The graphics now, you know, like those nineties Internet graphics, you know what I mean. It looks like aol on crack.

The graphics now, you know, like those nineties Internet graphics, you know what I mean. It looks like aol on crack.

But I'm telling you're fine. I'm telling you it's the concept. For me, it's the storyline, the plot that's lawnmower Man.

But I'm telling you're fine. I'm telling you it's the concept. For me, it's the storyline, the plot that's lawnmower Man.

I'm surprised, Bro. You gotta see law more. Man. I'm just telling you right now, you're gonna look at it and you're gonna be cracking up. But it's also when you see it, a lot of the stuff they're talking about is already starting to happen. To day with just again they're talking about VR and the internet and again this is like back during AOL days.

I'm surprised, Bro. You gotta see law more. Man. I'm just telling you right now, you're gonna look at it and you're gonna be cracking up. But it's also when you see it, a lot of the stuff they're talking about is already starting to happen. To day with just again they're talking about VR and the internet and again this is like back during AOL days.

You know what I mean, I need that. I'm not sure. I have to look that up, see where I can find it's streaming on it something.

You know what I mean, I need that. I'm not sure. I have to look that up, see where I can find it's streaming on it something.

It's the thing, man, But look bro like, so I know you do all kinds of stuff in a tech especially in the VR space though, right, Like, just for those who don't know, man, explain kind of the state of VR to day, because I think people know about it at a high level. They think it's all just about like throwing on the big oculus glasses and stuff like that, but there's so much more beneath that's going on. Suggestion, you are the VR expert, E've gonna bring our audience up to you know, what's going on and what's happening in the VR right now.

It's the thing, man, But look bro like, so I know you do all kinds of stuff in a tech especially in the VR space though, right, Like, just for those who don't know, man, explain kind of the state of VR to day, because I think people know about it at a high level. They think it's all just about like throwing on the big oculus glasses and stuff like that, but there's so much more beneath that's going on. Suggestion, you are the VR expert, E've gonna bring our audience up to you know, what's going on and what's happening in the VR right now.

The crazy thing about virtual reality is I don't believe it's in It's still in its infancy. But it's still young, right, It's still like especially like as a content creator is still a niche, so like it's one of It's one of those things where me, I believe that VR is a future wearable technology in general. Right, it's only so much more. We can update our phones too, it's only you know, so with virtual reality, it gives you access to literally an entirely new world. Like so for me, when I look at virtual reality, it's literally a second reality. It's a second world, right. So there's so much that you can do within virtual reality other than playing video games. Right now, they have like simulations where you can do open heart surgery, or you can do simulations to improve whatever career path you're on without anything hindering your learning process, you know, Like they have de escalation situations for police officers. You'll get in virtual virtual reality and try to de escalate a situation. Right now, the state of VR is in such a I think it's having a boom right now, Like, especially in the gaming side, this is a first year where in a long time where there are a lot of people excited about the games coming out, Like this fall, you got games like Batman, Arkham Shadow. You've got major ips coming to virtual reality like Metro. These are things that like people who aren't really used to VR, they're now able to find a reason to get in because usually people will look at VR as a gimmick, like why would I want to put this on my head, to like be by myself doing something somewhere, which isn't a lot of people don't look at it for the adventure or what you can do inside of virtual reality. They don't look at the imagination or how much you can actually do in virtual reality. So now in twenty twenty four, I believe we're taking the steps to make it more mainstream, but it in the hands of more people, like especially with like the Metaquest three is coming out. That headset is only two hundred ninety nine dollars, right, and for me to say only two ninety nine Back in twenty sixteen, in order to even get into virtual reality, you needed an eight hundred dollars VR headset along with a two thousand dollars computer. So now that you can get a high level of virtual reality with high graphics, good fidelity for three hundred dollars, it's like we're literally stepping into the future right now.

The crazy thing about virtual reality is I don't believe it's in It's still in its infancy. But it's still young, right, It's still like especially like as a content creator is still a niche, so like it's one of It's one of those things where me, I believe that VR is a future wearable technology in general. Right, it's only so much more. We can update our phones too, it's only you know, so with virtual reality, it gives you access to literally an entirely new world. Like so for me, when I look at virtual reality, it's literally a second reality. It's a second world, right. So there's so much that you can do within virtual reality other than playing video games. Right now, they have like simulations where you can do open heart surgery, or you can do simulations to improve whatever career path you're on without anything hindering your learning process, you know, Like they have de escalation situations for police officers. You'll get in virtual virtual reality and try to de escalate a situation. Right now, the state of VR is in such a I think it's having a boom right now, Like, especially in the gaming side, this is a first year where in a long time where there are a lot of people excited about the games coming out, Like this fall, you got games like Batman, Arkham Shadow. You've got major ips coming to virtual reality like Metro. These are things that like people who aren't really used to VR, they're now able to find a reason to get in because usually people will look at VR as a gimmick, like why would I want to put this on my head, to like be by myself doing something somewhere, which isn't a lot of people don't look at it for the adventure or what you can do inside of virtual reality. They don't look at the imagination or how much you can actually do in virtual reality. So now in twenty twenty four, I believe we're taking the steps to make it more mainstream, but it in the hands of more people, like especially with like the Metaquest three is coming out. That headset is only two hundred ninety nine dollars, right, and for me to say only two ninety nine Back in twenty sixteen, in order to even get into virtual reality, you needed an eight hundred dollars VR headset along with a two thousand dollars computer. So now that you can get a high level of virtual reality with high graphics, good fidelity for three hundred dollars, it's like we're literally stepping into the future right now.

Yeah, And I think and just for those folks that don't know, I mean, you know, we talk, we're gonna talk about a lot about VR. But also there's what we call AR, right, so RS augmented reality. We're almost kind of like laying a tech layer or something visual on top of the real world in front of you. So for example, I mean, I know you got the glasses on right now. They're not fully ar but hypothetically, you know, if they were, you could be looking at me and it could be literally in your lenses like show you like my social profile, like information about me versus VR. Is you actually putting on the glasses themselves and being from completely immersed in the experience.

Yeah, And I think and just for those folks that don't know, I mean, you know, we talk, we're gonna talk about a lot about VR. But also there's what we call AR, right, so RS augmented reality. We're almost kind of like laying a tech layer or something visual on top of the real world in front of you. So for example, I mean, I know you got the glasses on right now. They're not fully ar but hypothetically, you know, if they were, you could be looking at me and it could be literally in your lenses like show you like my social profile, like information about me versus VR. Is you actually putting on the glasses themselves and being from completely immersed in the experience.

And I don't think people even understand the possibilities of augmented reality, right, Like you say, I have these glasses on, and you want to create the clothing brand that interacts with augmented reality glasses. Say, right now you have on this black hoodie, but then you have a three M logo or something on it, right, the glasses interact with it. Now you have on whatever your virtual avatar once yeah in my eyes right, Say, for instance, you have Pokemon Go. When that craze came out and everybody was on their phones running around, imagine now you don't have to be distracted holding your phone up. Now you can just walk around, turn the app on in the background, you go for a walk or a jog. You see a Pokemon run across you, you can just catch it. Now with augmented reality, the virtual world is seamlessly connected with the real world. So that's what I'm excited for. Virtual reality is amazing, yes, but once we're able to seamlessly connect both the virtual world and the real world together with good fidelity, occlusion and everything like that is going to be a different type of world.

And I don't think people even understand the possibilities of augmented reality, right, Like you say, I have these glasses on, and you want to create the clothing brand that interacts with augmented reality glasses. Say, right now you have on this black hoodie, but then you have a three M logo or something on it, right, the glasses interact with it. Now you have on whatever your virtual avatar once yeah in my eyes right, Say, for instance, you have Pokemon Go. When that craze came out and everybody was on their phones running around, imagine now you don't have to be distracted holding your phone up. Now you can just walk around, turn the app on in the background, you go for a walk or a jog. You see a Pokemon run across you, you can just catch it. Now with augmented reality, the virtual world is seamlessly connected with the real world. So that's what I'm excited for. Virtual reality is amazing, yes, but once we're able to seamlessly connect both the virtual world and the real world together with good fidelity, occlusion and everything like that is going to be a different type of world.

Oh absolutely, It's going to bring a whole new layer to just everything you interact with. I mean, I remember being at the park and seeing groups of people playing Pokemon Go, and it's like, what are they doing? They're all holding their phones and kind of running around, you know, it's almost getting hit by cars they go down to the street. But again that's because you're you're interacting with this, but you're looking down at the screen, and that screen is showing you the world, and all of a sudden, that stuff is literally overlaid right in front of your eyes. It becomes, you know, fully seenless and fully integrated. What I want to know is how did you even get started in this stuff?

Oh absolutely, It's going to bring a whole new layer to just everything you interact with. I mean, I remember being at the park and seeing groups of people playing Pokemon Go, and it's like, what are they doing? They're all holding their phones and kind of running around, you know, it's almost getting hit by cars they go down to the street. But again that's because you're you're interacting with this, but you're looking down at the screen, and that screen is showing you the world, and all of a sudden, that stuff is literally overlaid right in front of your eyes. It becomes, you know, fully seenless and fully integrated. What I want to know is how did you even get started in this stuff?

Man? Man? You know what's so funny? I okay, I'm not going to tell the whole story, but I'm gonna take it back. So I was pretty I was pretty good in high school.

Man? Man? You know what's so funny? I okay, I'm not going to tell the whole story, but I'm gonna take it back. So I was pretty I was pretty good in high school.

Right.

Right.

I graduated thirty six GPA. Right. I went to college, but college ironically was not for me. Went for like one year, but I personally feel that one year is literally why I'm here now because on campus, AT and T pulled up and they just had these little cardboard boxes that you fold into a VR head cardboard. Yeah right, that that moment literally changed my life because when I put it on my face and you could touch a button to have your character move on your phone. But with me, I was like, as I pressed the button, what if I walk with it? Let me see how that feels. Right, So I was like, oh wow, Like I'm here then, bro I just locked in, did research, research, research, started working. I really didn't wasn't able to afford or get into VR because I was a broke college kid until the could goal came out. That was like two hundred dollars, but it had one controller and you only had three directions of movement. You only could move your head up and the right to left, up and down right, So that was cool. Started playing with that, but then I got into I did a focus group, which is ironic, and they sent me the Medoquest one. I was gonna get it anyway, but they sent it to me for free. Right. I was like, ray, I can just make content and do stuff and get stuff for free. So I started making a little content. It was doing decent. But then twenty twenty one, I said, I was listening to Gary Vee and I had a few friends just saying, bro, just why are gonna get on TikTok. I said, you know what, I'm gonna try it out. March ninth, twenty twenty one, I posted my first TikTok on VR content viral already, Right in a year, I was at one million followers on.

I graduated thirty six GPA. Right. I went to college, but college ironically was not for me. Went for like one year, but I personally feel that one year is literally why I'm here now because on campus, AT and T pulled up and they just had these little cardboard boxes that you fold into a VR head cardboard. Yeah right, that that moment literally changed my life because when I put it on my face and you could touch a button to have your character move on your phone. But with me, I was like, as I pressed the button, what if I walk with it? Let me see how that feels. Right, So I was like, oh wow, Like I'm here then, bro I just locked in, did research, research, research, started working. I really didn't wasn't able to afford or get into VR because I was a broke college kid until the could goal came out. That was like two hundred dollars, but it had one controller and you only had three directions of movement. You only could move your head up and the right to left, up and down right, So that was cool. Started playing with that, but then I got into I did a focus group, which is ironic, and they sent me the Medoquest one. I was gonna get it anyway, but they sent it to me for free. Right. I was like, ray, I can just make content and do stuff and get stuff for free. So I started making a little content. It was doing decent. But then twenty twenty one, I said, I was listening to Gary Vee and I had a few friends just saying, bro, just why are gonna get on TikTok. I said, you know what, I'm gonna try it out. March ninth, twenty twenty one, I posted my first TikTok on VR content viral already, Right in a year, I was at one million followers on.

TikTok million one year.

TikTok million one year.

Yeah, and in exactly one year. So March nine, twenty twenty one to March nine, twenty twenty two, I had a million followers cause I was just locked in, like I'm talking about, I was posting three tiktoks a day like cause I was like, oh, it's thirty second videos. I'm funny, let me just And I was even trying, if I'm being honest, I was just making gameplay and I was like, I naturally play the game good. I posted them and they was going viral. One video got four million likes m and then from there, I like that same video I reposted like once or twice a year and it go viral every time.

Yeah, and in exactly one year. So March nine, twenty twenty one to March nine, twenty twenty two, I had a million followers cause I was just locked in, like I'm talking about, I was posting three tiktoks a day like cause I was like, oh, it's thirty second videos. I'm funny, let me just And I was even trying, if I'm being honest, I was just making gameplay and I was like, I naturally play the game good. I posted them and they was going viral. One video got four million likes m and then from there, I like that same video I reposted like once or twice a year and it go viral every time.

Now we'll get into that a second, but I just want to know what's what's the experience like of going from zero to one million in a year? Like, how does that? How does your life change over the over the course of that process.

Now we'll get into that a second, but I just want to know what's what's the experience like of going from zero to one million in a year? Like, how does that? How does your life change over the over the course of that process.

Man, that's a deep question, because look, I ain't gonna lie to you. It's a lot of ups and downs mentally, because, like one, because it's so easy. At first, I didn't know how to really place my value because I was like, man, it was so easy. I'm pretty sure everybody can do it, even me. But then everybody was like, bro, you're inspiring me. I'm gonna do it and it couldn't be replicated, right, So then I'm like, okay, how do I like? It's the mental part is trying to figure out your value when it comes to business, And at first I wasn't a businessman. If I'm being honest, I was getting into it just like, Okay, it's a thirty second video. This amount of money is cool. I'm just take it. Right, Yeah, I'm living like I don't got to work, you know what I'm saying. So mentally it's like you really get you got to learn a lot. You gotta learn a lot, and then could you with the fast growth comes people and businesses that want to work with you, and a lot of a lot of the times for me, a few of the times they didn't have good intentions at the end of the day. Right, So it's the it's hard, it's it's it's weird. It's a weird place because you grow in a year and you like, dang, bro, like I'm him, like I kind of made it. You feel me, feel like you made it, got the condo in Miami, even me in a year, you feel me. So I'm like, okay, the ups and down. So it's really it takes like it's a loaded question, bro, because it feels great, but then it's like what comes with it?

Man, that's a deep question, because look, I ain't gonna lie to you. It's a lot of ups and downs mentally, because, like one, because it's so easy. At first, I didn't know how to really place my value because I was like, man, it was so easy. I'm pretty sure everybody can do it, even me. But then everybody was like, bro, you're inspiring me. I'm gonna do it and it couldn't be replicated, right, So then I'm like, okay, how do I like? It's the mental part is trying to figure out your value when it comes to business, And at first I wasn't a businessman. If I'm being honest, I was getting into it just like, Okay, it's a thirty second video. This amount of money is cool. I'm just take it. Right, Yeah, I'm living like I don't got to work, you know what I'm saying. So mentally it's like you really get you got to learn a lot. You gotta learn a lot, and then could you with the fast growth comes people and businesses that want to work with you, and a lot of a lot of the times for me, a few of the times they didn't have good intentions at the end of the day. Right, So it's the it's hard, it's it's it's weird. It's a weird place because you grow in a year and you like, dang, bro, like I'm him, like I kind of made it. You feel me, feel like you made it, got the condo in Miami, even me in a year, you feel me. So I'm like, okay, the ups and down. So it's really it takes like it's a loaded question, bro, because it feels great, but then it's like what comes with it?

No, Look, look now you know I've I've grown a platform. I mean we haven't grown into a million, but I can definitely understand the point of what comes with growing something and kind of becoming a person and all of a sudden everybody kind of coming at you and he trying to figure out what their intentions are, what they want, because it ain't like they just coming at you for their health.

No, Look, look now you know I've I've grown a platform. I mean we haven't grown into a million, but I can definitely understand the point of what comes with growing something and kind of becoming a person and all of a sudden everybody kind of coming at you and he trying to figure out what their intentions are, what they want, because it ain't like they just coming at you for their health.

You know what I'm saying, because y'all wasn't messing with you, y'all messing with tech man.

You know what I'm saying, because y'all wasn't messing with you, y'all messing with tech man.

Right, you know what I'm saying.

Right, you know what I'm saying.

You know.

You know.

So it's like it's like you start wondering, like what the objective is on top of that, you're trying to figure out, Yeah, how do you value yourself in the market? Like am I undervalue myself? My overvalue myself? Like getting more comfortable asking for certain things?

So it's like it's like you start wondering, like what the objective is on top of that, you're trying to figure out, Yeah, how do you value yourself in the market? Like am I undervalue myself? My overvalue myself? Like getting more comfortable asking for certain things?

Right?

Right?

You know again just for the context, right, like when you start start happening, like are we talking three figure deil? Like six figure deils? Two figures? You gotta be specific just so there's some broad specifics man, Like what happens?

You know again just for the context, right, like when you start start happening, like are we talking three figure deil? Like six figure deils? Two figures? You gotta be specific just so there's some broad specifics man, Like what happens?

Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not gonna lie tell you around like twenty two I was touching like six figures. Wow, yeah, I ain't gonna because like I ain't gonna lie to tell you like I got twelve on my neck, but like I was. But that's what I'm saying. That's what a mental Because you're young, you start making money, you start and then you got to balance it out right, and you gotta it's the maturity that comes with it. And then it's like spreading yourself in the market. Yeah, because I ain't gonna lie. I was doing so great on TikTok. I didn't really I didn't really spread myself too far on everything else, right, but yeah, it was it was a it was some good because I'm like, I ain't gonna cap like for thirty second video. At times you definitely was getting four figures per thirty second video. Oh that's crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, cause you it was. It was at a point where like, I ain't gonna lie, bro. It was at a point where on TikTok you thought you saw VR. You literally just saw tech man. Literally that's all you saw. It was a point where VR just tech man, tech man, tech man. Now it's like, I'm at the driver is to make that everywhere YouTube, Twitch, Instagram like tech man, tech man, tech man. My what's funny. Back in I had a esports team had picked me up and our slogan for me was like the face of VR. And that's still the goal, you feel me, that's still we're still working on it because ain't gonna lie. It was so back in like my heyday, back when I was like, I was like ignorant back but I was like I was the face of VRE I'm talking about, and I was moving like it too. I'm talking about. I was at events I'm talking about. You can't think of VR if I seen tech ma I' talking about. I was on ESPN Lebron James like my post. You know what I'm saying. I'm on ESPN Fox, I'm on Bleacher Report reposting me. I'm like, bro, I thought I was gonna be on ESPN for football. I'm on ESPN for VR. You feel me? So? Look, of course my head got a little big at one point. But it's like you, you you go through it and you understand how you gotta how you gotta navigate it.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not gonna lie tell you around like twenty two I was touching like six figures. Wow, yeah, I ain't gonna because like I ain't gonna lie to tell you like I got twelve on my neck, but like I was. But that's what I'm saying. That's what a mental Because you're young, you start making money, you start and then you got to balance it out right, and you gotta it's the maturity that comes with it. And then it's like spreading yourself in the market. Yeah, because I ain't gonna lie. I was doing so great on TikTok. I didn't really I didn't really spread myself too far on everything else, right, but yeah, it was it was a it was some good because I'm like, I ain't gonna cap like for thirty second video. At times you definitely was getting four figures per thirty second video. Oh that's crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, cause you it was. It was at a point where like, I ain't gonna lie, bro. It was at a point where on TikTok you thought you saw VR. You literally just saw tech man. Literally that's all you saw. It was a point where VR just tech man, tech man, tech man. Now it's like, I'm at the driver is to make that everywhere YouTube, Twitch, Instagram like tech man, tech man, tech man. My what's funny. Back in I had a esports team had picked me up and our slogan for me was like the face of VR. And that's still the goal, you feel me, that's still we're still working on it because ain't gonna lie. It was so back in like my heyday, back when I was like, I was like ignorant back but I was like I was the face of VRE I'm talking about, and I was moving like it too. I'm talking about. I was at events I'm talking about. You can't think of VR if I seen tech ma I' talking about. I was on ESPN Lebron James like my post. You know what I'm saying. I'm on ESPN Fox, I'm on Bleacher Report reposting me. I'm like, bro, I thought I was gonna be on ESPN for football. I'm on ESPN for VR. You feel me? So? Look, of course my head got a little big at one point. But it's like you, you you go through it and you understand how you gotta how you gotta navigate it.

Well, yeah, that's what I was going to ask too, I mean, and you know, just understanding how you manage that?

Well, yeah, that's what I was going to ask too, I mean, and you know, just understanding how you manage that?

Right?

Right?

Did you start looking for, you know, a team or like mentors and people around you just to kind of give you some con because again, at that point, you got to start asking yourself like who can I trust?

Did you start looking for, you know, a team or like mentors and people around you just to kind of give you some con because again, at that point, you got to start asking yourself like who can I trust?

Man?

Man?

Who's got my best interest in mind? Right, I'm sure kind of comes up. So how did you kind of manage on that side to make sure you were taking care of the business of tech man also so that you could be sustainable.

Who's got my best interest in mind? Right, I'm sure kind of comes up. So how did you kind of manage on that side to make sure you were taking care of the business of tech man also so that you could be sustainable.

Row row Row, I don't even know where acting that is, but brow when it comes to business and trust, bro literally, I feel like I just got comfortable with business and trusts like three four five months ago when I signed with my current manager, because now it's like I have a manager specifically for me, right, because at first, like I said, VR is a niche, So at first it was like people from like development teams are like different places in the industry trying to make like an agency or something and try to get other companies like, hey, we have these creators. But that's not what they did, you know what I'm saying, that's not what you do. But you're trying to do. I understand you're trying to figure out a place in the market because of the growing market, there's so many possibilities of VR. But on a business standpoint, bro, like, because the industry is new, and like entertainment in the industry especially is new with VR, I'm just not feeling like business wise because my manager now has done worked with creators other than like virtual reality stuff, right, and that's really my whole goal. Like, yeah, being at the top of a niche is cool, but I ain't gonna lie. I'm trying to be at the top of like everything, if you know what I'm saying. Like, yeah, it's cool to be the top VR gamer, but it's also way better to be the top gamer.

Row row Row, I don't even know where acting that is, but brow when it comes to business and trust, bro literally, I feel like I just got comfortable with business and trusts like three four five months ago when I signed with my current manager, because now it's like I have a manager specifically for me, right, because at first, like I said, VR is a niche, So at first it was like people from like development teams are like different places in the industry trying to make like an agency or something and try to get other companies like, hey, we have these creators. But that's not what they did, you know what I'm saying, that's not what you do. But you're trying to do. I understand you're trying to figure out a place in the market because of the growing market, there's so many possibilities of VR. But on a business standpoint, bro, like, because the industry is new, and like entertainment in the industry especially is new with VR, I'm just not feeling like business wise because my manager now has done worked with creators other than like virtual reality stuff, right, and that's really my whole goal. Like, yeah, being at the top of a niche is cool, but I ain't gonna lie. I'm trying to be at the top of like everything, if you know what I'm saying. Like, yeah, it's cool to be the top VR gamer, but it's also way better to be the top gamer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's like business wise, bro, going through so much. I doesn't been in my time. I've been ft over you feel me, yeah, by like a few companies. But right now, yeah, this is the first time I kind of feel comfortable, like business wise doing this. And I've been doing this full time really since I bro, it was ironic. I've been doing this four times since the day I started it. But but yeah, well about three four yeah, about three years, four years. I'm just now starting to feel comfortable business wise.

So it's like business wise, bro, going through so much. I doesn't been in my time. I've been ft over you feel me, yeah, by like a few companies. But right now, yeah, this is the first time I kind of feel comfortable, like business wise doing this. And I've been doing this full time really since I bro, it was ironic. I've been doing this four times since the day I started it. But but yeah, well about three four yeah, about three years, four years. I'm just now starting to feel comfortable business wise.

That's dope. Man. Well, I mean it's a process, bro, But like, tell me about these VR worlds, right, So, like we talk, you talk about VR, like where is all this stuff being built at? Like where do these where do these places exist? That for those that don't.

That's dope. Man. Well, I mean it's a process, bro, But like, tell me about these VR worlds, right, So, like we talk, you talk about VR, like where is all this stuff being built at? Like where do these where do these places exist? That for those that don't.

Know what's crazy? Okay, first, I mean, what's crazy. Right now, you actually can build a world in VR. You can get in there and physically be there, build it, mold it, see the side you want it like we done took steps so far into the future. And my well, actually yeah, because if you knew about VR since twenty sixteen and you like see the steps is how far we can be Like dang, a lot of people just look at it now if you just get interested in VR. I was like, that's a cool look give me but bro long way, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Originally, well even right now, still you can build worlds in Blender, transform the unity, put in assets like that, build them on a computer. A lot of these things are it's really complete imagination. It's like, in my eyes, it's like building Legos. I get in Blender, like because I'm working on some VR projects right now, I get in Blender. It's literally like Legos because you can download asset packs community to for VR hands if you weren't hand tracking. For me personally, from what I've been seeing, I personally don't have to do a lot of coding because a lot of things are like in there for you for plug and play. Yeah, so on my end, it's pretty simple. It's really just imagination and how much time you want to put into it and.

Know what's crazy? Okay, first, I mean, what's crazy. Right now, you actually can build a world in VR. You can get in there and physically be there, build it, mold it, see the side you want it like we done took steps so far into the future. And my well, actually yeah, because if you knew about VR since twenty sixteen and you like see the steps is how far we can be Like dang, a lot of people just look at it now if you just get interested in VR. I was like, that's a cool look give me but bro long way, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Originally, well even right now, still you can build worlds in Blender, transform the unity, put in assets like that, build them on a computer. A lot of these things are it's really complete imagination. It's like, in my eyes, it's like building Legos. I get in Blender, like because I'm working on some VR projects right now, I get in Blender. It's literally like Legos because you can download asset packs community to for VR hands if you weren't hand tracking. For me personally, from what I've been seeing, I personally don't have to do a lot of coding because a lot of things are like in there for you for plug and play. Yeah, so on my end, it's pretty simple. It's really just imagination and how much time you want to put into it and.

When you build these worlds out, like you know, we've talked about, you know, creating assets and things exist in these worlds, right, Like how do you monetize these worlds? And like how do you make it? How do you get people in there? And how do you monetize on top of you know, having an audience inside that VR world because you look, you was talking about some crazy stuff you will be doing in VR.

When you build these worlds out, like you know, we've talked about, you know, creating assets and things exist in these worlds, right, Like how do you monetize these worlds? And like how do you make it? How do you get people in there? And how do you monetize on top of you know, having an audience inside that VR world because you look, you was talking about some crazy stuff you will be doing in VR.

Okay, so okay, okay, okay. If I'm going to be blunt specifically with if I'm going to build something or like a freelancer that's not going to build like a game to put on a platform. If you want to build like your own world to put in like a social platform like VR Chatter Horizon, it's unlimited, like if you you can monetize it however you want to, Like however you would think to monetize in real life, you can monetize that way in VR. So the project I'm working on started off as a one to one replica of my apartment bucket. Right, I was like, bro, I can just build the whole building. So because it's pretty simple once you get like the tools and Blender and you understand how to make your workflow easier. So I just got a copy of my of the floor plan of the building and literally just make it one to one and then you put in all the assets you want. So once the bases built, the floor plan and the walls, the everything is like that, you can design to have you want to. So if we want to make it futuristic, we just overlay futuristic materials. We add in some objects that will give you the feel of a dystopian or futuristic feel, however you want to do it. So that being said, now that I've built the whole building with my community, if I want to, if I have a Patreon or something, someone could literally rent out one of those apartment buildings to do and live their virtual life in because it's a whole community and it's literally like a second life. In VR. There are virtual bars where you can literally your character will literally get drunk when you drink. It's hilarious, like you can and you have to watch it because if you get too drunk you'll black out. It's you're laughing. But like when you pop up to this world. You know it starts, it starts getting but like no, but like you literally have to walk up to the door if you don't have your idea or tell them your birthday. If you're a child, you cannot get in in VR. Yeah, like it's policed. It's real life. Bro. I had a birthday party in VR and people would think like, oh real, but no, Bro, I had a birthday part in VR. They like cleared out a whole world, like nobody could get in, not a whole world. Yeah, they cleared out a whole world. Yeah, it's hilarious, bro, it was a whole world. It was like a club world, so like you couldn't get in unless Like I said, it was cool because at first we had this one guy get in and he started like just yelling racial slurs because knew it was tag Man's birthday. But it's funny because they put a bomb on him and he blew up and kicked him out. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it's policing in here, bro, Like we got security. Bro, it's strip clubs in here. Bro. Look bro, look there's Look when you look at VR and you look at the commercials, you just see people with the head sit on and the controllers moving their head in their hands. Right, there's levels. Bro, you got full body tracking. You put the trackers on your hips and your ankles. Right now, you can move your entire body in VR. You can kick if you're in a fighting game, you can kick somebody, punch somebody, step on somebody when you're in a social VR game. Right. They have strip clubs that they build out that you cannot get in unless you are I got whatever age some of them eighteen and twenty one. But they really check like you cannot get in here if you're not of age because they are a real woman in full body tracking dancing to get paid in virtual reality.

Okay, so okay, okay, okay. If I'm going to be blunt specifically with if I'm going to build something or like a freelancer that's not going to build like a game to put on a platform. If you want to build like your own world to put in like a social platform like VR Chatter Horizon, it's unlimited, like if you you can monetize it however you want to, Like however you would think to monetize in real life, you can monetize that way in VR. So the project I'm working on started off as a one to one replica of my apartment bucket. Right, I was like, bro, I can just build the whole building. So because it's pretty simple once you get like the tools and Blender and you understand how to make your workflow easier. So I just got a copy of my of the floor plan of the building and literally just make it one to one and then you put in all the assets you want. So once the bases built, the floor plan and the walls, the everything is like that, you can design to have you want to. So if we want to make it futuristic, we just overlay futuristic materials. We add in some objects that will give you the feel of a dystopian or futuristic feel, however you want to do it. So that being said, now that I've built the whole building with my community, if I want to, if I have a Patreon or something, someone could literally rent out one of those apartment buildings to do and live their virtual life in because it's a whole community and it's literally like a second life. In VR. There are virtual bars where you can literally your character will literally get drunk when you drink. It's hilarious, like you can and you have to watch it because if you get too drunk you'll black out. It's you're laughing. But like when you pop up to this world. You know it starts, it starts getting but like no, but like you literally have to walk up to the door if you don't have your idea or tell them your birthday. If you're a child, you cannot get in in VR. Yeah, like it's policed. It's real life. Bro. I had a birthday party in VR and people would think like, oh real, but no, Bro, I had a birthday part in VR. They like cleared out a whole world, like nobody could get in, not a whole world. Yeah, they cleared out a whole world. Yeah, it's hilarious, bro, it was a whole world. It was like a club world, so like you couldn't get in unless Like I said, it was cool because at first we had this one guy get in and he started like just yelling racial slurs because knew it was tag Man's birthday. But it's funny because they put a bomb on him and he blew up and kicked him out. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it's policing in here, bro, Like we got security. Bro, it's strip clubs in here. Bro. Look bro, look there's Look when you look at VR and you look at the commercials, you just see people with the head sit on and the controllers moving their head in their hands. Right, there's levels. Bro, you got full body tracking. You put the trackers on your hips and your ankles. Right now, you can move your entire body in VR. You can kick if you're in a fighting game, you can kick somebody, punch somebody, step on somebody when you're in a social VR game. Right. They have strip clubs that they build out that you cannot get in unless you are I got whatever age some of them eighteen and twenty one. But they really check like you cannot get in here if you're not of age because they are a real woman in full body tracking dancing to get paid in virtual reality.

Let me get this straight. So I go in the virtual reality world. Yeah, I can go to VR Magic City. Yeah, right, but I can't get in because it's got a bouncer at the front.

Let me get this straight. So I go in the virtual reality world. Yeah, I can go to VR Magic City. Yeah, right, but I can't get in because it's got a bouncer at the front.

You gottach my, I d Yeah, no, you can look. So you're gonna get a portal. Go in the portal. You're gonna go to the world. Once you're in the world, there'll be a door with the bouncer, and so.

You gottach my, I d Yeah, no, you can look. So you're gonna get a portal. Go in the portal. You're gonna go to the world. Once you're in the world, there'll be a door with the bouncer, and so.

You gotta show up and then you go in and there literally because yeah, I think people think that just VR is just the headsets. But to your point, there's like, you know, what you call haptic suits and like the gloves and you said pen ankle things right where you can feel and move right.

You gotta show up and then you go in and there literally because yeah, I think people think that just VR is just the headsets. But to your point, there's like, you know, what you call haptic suits and like the gloves and you said pen ankle things right where you can feel and move right.

Don't get me started on the haptic suits at the strip club. Oh but my bad, bad. I'm let you finish. I let you finish, my bad.

Don't get me started on the haptic suits at the strip club. Oh but my bad, bad. I'm let you finish. I let you finish, my bad.

But it's just interesting to me, man, Like, I think that like people really you don't understand that these this world kind of exists, and they think that it's maybe just like some small, little niche community, right, but there are millions of people that are interacting with he thinks from across the world.

But it's just interesting to me, man, Like, I think that like people really you don't understand that these this world kind of exists, and they think that it's maybe just like some small, little niche community, right, but there are millions of people that are interacting with he thinks from across the world.

Yes, there are love stories of people who I've never met.

Yes, there are love stories of people who I've never met.

Physically married in VR or something like run.

Physically married in VR or something like run.

Literally proposed married in VR, and I'm like, bo, you know what, it's each his own.

Literally proposed married in VR, and I'm like, bo, you know what, it's each his own.

But no, man, no, it's yeah. I think people don't understand, like, you know, again, like how how big this really is? Like with the scale, it's also possible to your point, you know, you're talking about how you can create you know, assets and jewelry and things that people actually buy, you know, in VR, they you know, have to customize their avatars and all this stuff. But then even though it's VR money, that money has got that's real money too.

But no, man, no, it's yeah. I think people don't understand, like, you know, again, like how how big this really is? Like with the scale, it's also possible to your point, you know, you're talking about how you can create you know, assets and jewelry and things that people actually buy, you know, in VR, they you know, have to customize their avatars and all this stuff. But then even though it's VR money, that money has got that's real money too.

Oh bo bo bo bo, What do you mean VR money? All of this is USD. What you mean you can like? Okay, So I know a guy named Hardy, he makes worlds in Horizon. He made he made a Hardy coin that if you want to go inside of his world and buy some assets or something, go buy Go purchase some Hardy coins. So now you have your Indian coins that were converted from USD. So it's hilarious because it's like all you got to do is build the popularity of the world. Yeah, because like if I tell you right now, hey brother, look, I'm selling some tech coins if you want to buy like a bundle for ten dollars and come to my world and like do some stuff. But I'd be dope. You'll be like why would I do that? Because like I don't know the world, Like I don't know what you're doing. So it's the marketing behind it. So it's building out the world, doing the content behind it. Doing like so even with the world I'm doing, everything I'm building is a part of marketing, right, So tech Man is going to have a comic book. I'm working on a comic book. When I get to the point, I'm going to have it animated. Some stuff I'm building is like stuff that's going to be inside of the world of the tech Men world. So even when I do merch, when I make like clothing, it'll be clothing that's worn from the characters in the comics. It's not going to be like a picture of tech Man on a shirt. It's going to be like the brand. For example, marketing. If you watch Narbito, you see they wear the headbands all the time. If I go to the storm by a headband, I'm with them. I'm a part of the Klan. Now you feel me. I'm there, I have the nostalgia. So with me, the marketing is different. It's like everything isn't calculated, it's together. So like if you get in VR and go to this world, you're going to be in the world that you had read in the comic book or seen in the tech Man show. So now you get to actually be there with tech Man.

Oh bo bo bo bo, What do you mean VR money? All of this is USD. What you mean you can like? Okay, So I know a guy named Hardy, he makes worlds in Horizon. He made he made a Hardy coin that if you want to go inside of his world and buy some assets or something, go buy Go purchase some Hardy coins. So now you have your Indian coins that were converted from USD. So it's hilarious because it's like all you got to do is build the popularity of the world. Yeah, because like if I tell you right now, hey brother, look, I'm selling some tech coins if you want to buy like a bundle for ten dollars and come to my world and like do some stuff. But I'd be dope. You'll be like why would I do that? Because like I don't know the world, Like I don't know what you're doing. So it's the marketing behind it. So it's building out the world, doing the content behind it. Doing like so even with the world I'm doing, everything I'm building is a part of marketing, right, So tech Man is going to have a comic book. I'm working on a comic book. When I get to the point, I'm going to have it animated. Some stuff I'm building is like stuff that's going to be inside of the world of the tech Men world. So even when I do merch, when I make like clothing, it'll be clothing that's worn from the characters in the comics. It's not going to be like a picture of tech Man on a shirt. It's going to be like the brand. For example, marketing. If you watch Narbito, you see they wear the headbands all the time. If I go to the storm by a headband, I'm with them. I'm a part of the Klan. Now you feel me. I'm there, I have the nostalgia. So with me, the marketing is different. It's like everything isn't calculated, it's together. So like if you get in VR and go to this world, you're going to be in the world that you had read in the comic book or seen in the tech Man show. So now you get to actually be there with tech Man.

And just again just to again give context for the folks that understand, like when you say worlds like again, these are just completely immersive experiences. So a world could be anything from to your point, a replication of your apartment building, right, you know, and that is the world. That could be the whole world and within itself, now in each one of those rooms there could be a totally different experience.

And just again just to again give context for the folks that understand, like when you say worlds like again, these are just completely immersive experiences. So a world could be anything from to your point, a replication of your apartment building, right, you know, and that is the world. That could be the whole world and within itself, now in each one of those rooms there could be a totally different experience.

Well, my specific world is going to literally be a world like the building is.

Well, my specific world is going to literally be a world like the building is.

In the world. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too, right, But I mean I'm just saying like, on one level, a world could literally just be a building but all these things in it, right, Or it could be literally a world in which there are many buildings in many places and many things you could do.

In the world. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too, right, But I mean I'm just saying like, on one level, a world could literally just be a building but all these things in it, right, Or it could be literally a world in which there are many buildings in many places and many things you could do.

Right.

Right.

What are some just like really unique worlds again, because I think people think about you know, we talked about the Strip club, like, what's like a unique world that you've seen, or it's just really interesting that somebody put together.

What are some just like really unique worlds again, because I think people think about you know, we talked about the Strip club, like, what's like a unique world that you've seen, or it's just really interesting that somebody put together.

One of the dopest worlds is there's this world you teleport in and it's just like a vast ocean like beyond where you can see, right, but it's only up to like ankle level, so it kind of feels like you're I guess it would feel like an afterlifeish type of feel. But then there's a giant tree in the middle. It's a treehouse. You go into treehouse and then you can press like a there's a screen you can choose from and then the space around you will turn to whatever ambient a visual you choose. So it feels very like psychedelic, and it can like put you on like such a level of peace because it's like calm, binurobeats, frequencies and things like that, where it's like you put you in such a space of zen and meditation. And then there are different worlds where you can literally go on like scuba dive or you'll just sit there and ride and you'll go underwater see giant wells or sharks and stuff like that. A lot of worlds are like very I guess I would say trippy, dystopian futuristic, make you feel like you're in a movie. Everything like Ready Player one, everything Ready Player one. Yeah, Like it's really hard to say because you see so much like what can you pull out? It's like I really want people to just go and see, you know, like one day I might see if I might get like headsets and just have like a little tour, like y'all come with me, let's all go on a virtual for a tour in VR.

One of the dopest worlds is there's this world you teleport in and it's just like a vast ocean like beyond where you can see, right, but it's only up to like ankle level, so it kind of feels like you're I guess it would feel like an afterlifeish type of feel. But then there's a giant tree in the middle. It's a treehouse. You go into treehouse and then you can press like a there's a screen you can choose from and then the space around you will turn to whatever ambient a visual you choose. So it feels very like psychedelic, and it can like put you on like such a level of peace because it's like calm, binurobeats, frequencies and things like that, where it's like you put you in such a space of zen and meditation. And then there are different worlds where you can literally go on like scuba dive or you'll just sit there and ride and you'll go underwater see giant wells or sharks and stuff like that. A lot of worlds are like very I guess I would say trippy, dystopian futuristic, make you feel like you're in a movie. Everything like Ready Player one, everything Ready Player one. Yeah, Like it's really hard to say because you see so much like what can you pull out? It's like I really want people to just go and see, you know, like one day I might see if I might get like headsets and just have like a little tour, like y'all come with me, let's all go on a virtual for a tour in VR.

And then look, we need we need to do a butter VR tour. Man, let's go hook it up bring some people. Now, that's but that's a good point though. Like so, say somebody's listening to this conversation right now and they're like, man, you know what tech man is Dope, I want to do that too. How do they go from zero to one? They want to get started? They don't have no VR stuff. All they got is a laptop and a nice internet connection at home. What's what's the first thing they should do?

And then look, we need we need to do a butter VR tour. Man, let's go hook it up bring some people. Now, that's but that's a good point though. Like so, say somebody's listening to this conversation right now and they're like, man, you know what tech man is Dope, I want to do that too. How do they go from zero to one? They want to get started? They don't have no VR stuff. All they got is a laptop and a nice internet connection at home. What's what's the first thing they should do?

Zero one, zero to one to VR content creation.

Zero one, zero to one to VR content creation.

Or just even just experience in VR. But then I'll also be a content creational tone.

Or just even just experience in VR. But then I'll also be a content creational tone.

Man, first, if you just want to experience a VR. Look, this isn't even because you can go in the link in my bio and then get a discount. This isn't even why I'm expressing that. I'm not even going to say this because you can get a thirty dollars gift card when you use the link in my bio. You know what I'm saying. Sure, that's not why I'm saying this. What I'm gonna say is because it's affordable it's only two ninety nine, and then like, literally the graphics in the Metaquest three are amazing. I'm not gonna lie, like I'm I'm not even joking. Like if I was going to recommend a headset, it would be the meda Quest three because of the process and power. It has a headphone jack, YadA YadA. But if you just want to get into VR, the medic Quest three s is two ninety nine and it's literally as almost as strong as the Quest three. It literally it just has different lenses. So I mean, I would I recommend, I tell everyone get the medic Quest three. Yes, it's the best entry level VR. You don't need a PC because everything comes on the headset. But if you do have a PC headset, you can stream your PC games wirelessly to the Quest three, So then you'll be able to experience like very high quality virtual reality games wirelessly, because my biggest thing is I don't like wires when I play VR.

Man, first, if you just want to experience a VR. Look, this isn't even because you can go in the link in my bio and then get a discount. This isn't even why I'm expressing that. I'm not even going to say this because you can get a thirty dollars gift card when you use the link in my bio. You know what I'm saying. Sure, that's not why I'm saying this. What I'm gonna say is because it's affordable it's only two ninety nine, and then like, literally the graphics in the Metaquest three are amazing. I'm not gonna lie, like I'm I'm not even joking. Like if I was going to recommend a headset, it would be the meda Quest three because of the process and power. It has a headphone jack, YadA YadA. But if you just want to get into VR, the medic Quest three s is two ninety nine and it's literally as almost as strong as the Quest three. It literally it just has different lenses. So I mean, I would I recommend, I tell everyone get the medic Quest three. Yes, it's the best entry level VR. You don't need a PC because everything comes on the headset. But if you do have a PC headset, you can stream your PC games wirelessly to the Quest three, So then you'll be able to experience like very high quality virtual reality games wirelessly, because my biggest thing is I don't like wires when I play VR.

Yeah, you want to be able to move around like I've seen you even have like the thing you can walk.

Yeah, you want to be able to move around like I've seen you even have like the thing you can walk.

On and all that. Yeah, that's one of my sponsors to the catwalk. Yeah, and I'm not saying like, if you want one. You can hit the link in my bio and get one hundred and thirty dollars off. But just theoretically, if you did want one, could get a discount by using the link in my body.

On and all that. Yeah, that's one of my sponsors to the catwalk. Yeah, and I'm not saying like, if you want one. You can hit the link in my bio and get one hundred and thirty dollars off. But just theoretically, if you did want one, could get a discount by using the link in my body.

I like, how you just see this what I'm talking about. This, this is the influential aspect of it coming in and I'm one here for One of the things we were talking about too, was representation VR. Yes, right, Like, what's your perspective on that? Because I know, again I've seen stuff and again you look down and you're like, man, these hands all like my hands, But like you're working on that stuff too, aren't you.

I like, how you just see this what I'm talking about. This, this is the influential aspect of it coming in and I'm one here for One of the things we were talking about too, was representation VR. Yes, right, Like, what's your perspective on that? Because I know, again I've seen stuff and again you look down and you're like, man, these hands all like my hands, But like you're working on that stuff too, aren't you.

Yes, I'm trying to. Well, one, just being a voice. My biggest thing is being a voice because you know, some people in the VR content creative community, the people have someone called me the Jackie Robinson of VR. But do you know how much pressure that is? I'm like, bro, I'm just making content. They're like, man, we don't see no brothers doing it like you, thank you, bro, but no, Like, I'm really trying to see more representation, not only in the games, like as far as how I look as a character and character creation, but even in the space in general. Like content creators. Bro. It used to be a point where I'll go to these events with these VR companies and Bro's literally the only black person there. I'm talking about not just content creators. I'm talking about the developers, the cameramen, the I'm like, Okay, it feels it felt a little off right now, being able to motivate others to make VR content bring them in. It feels good because now we have a little bit more representation in the space as far as like people to look up to for content streamers and VR content, Like shout out to my boy Turbo Man. Me and Turbo tried to make like build a team of content creators, right but unfortunately they weren't originally content creators, so they didn't take it as seriously. Yeah, we even gave them like VR headsss and so, like we gave them the tools. But shout out to Turbo because Turbo is the only one who locked in and like Bro, I'm talking about Turbo's live streams of NFL Pro Era. He would get like thousands of people watching his live streams right now. He's the only one with me from the group that we made that like gets flown out to these events like to meta to Bro was in the NBA All Star Like he went to the NBA All Star Game to host it.

Yes, I'm trying to. Well, one, just being a voice. My biggest thing is being a voice because you know, some people in the VR content creative community, the people have someone called me the Jackie Robinson of VR. But do you know how much pressure that is? I'm like, bro, I'm just making content. They're like, man, we don't see no brothers doing it like you, thank you, bro, but no, Like, I'm really trying to see more representation, not only in the games, like as far as how I look as a character and character creation, but even in the space in general. Like content creators. Bro. It used to be a point where I'll go to these events with these VR companies and Bro's literally the only black person there. I'm talking about not just content creators. I'm talking about the developers, the cameramen, the I'm like, Okay, it feels it felt a little off right now, being able to motivate others to make VR content bring them in. It feels good because now we have a little bit more representation in the space as far as like people to look up to for content streamers and VR content, Like shout out to my boy Turbo Man. Me and Turbo tried to make like build a team of content creators, right but unfortunately they weren't originally content creators, so they didn't take it as seriously. Yeah, we even gave them like VR headsss and so, like we gave them the tools. But shout out to Turbo because Turbo is the only one who locked in and like Bro, I'm talking about Turbo's live streams of NFL Pro Era. He would get like thousands of people watching his live streams right now. He's the only one with me from the group that we made that like gets flown out to these events like to meta to Bro was in the NBA All Star Like he went to the NBA All Star Game to host it.

Like the Hi.

Like the Hi.

Telling people make some content. The v our space where so many opportunities, Like it's like, Bro, just do it. Why not?

Telling people make some content. The v our space where so many opportunities, Like it's like, Bro, just do it. Why not?

We'll talk about opportunities for a second. For creators that are looking to get started. I mean, you know, one of the things I hear people talking about is, you know GG six is coming out, Like there's all these moments that are going to start happening. But for creators that are getting started, like where should they focus that? Are there certain types of games or should they focus on building worlds?

We'll talk about opportunities for a second. For creators that are looking to get started. I mean, you know, one of the things I hear people talking about is, you know GG six is coming out, Like there's all these moments that are going to start happening. But for creators that are getting started, like where should they focus that? Are there certain types of games or should they focus on building worlds?

Like oh man, if you're if you're talking about creators for virtual reality, Bro, my background is I'm an actor, Like that's what Actually, that's my main thing. Like I love virtual reality but one day and pop off on the big screen cap and be a live actor superhero. So everybody listening, just make sure y'all manifest that. But okay, so honestly, it's really just get in there, have fun. But the biggest thing is for me is quality. But if you have like if you set that up and just have a system that will already be there and all you really have to focus on is having fun and like being in the moment and proving right. I'll see a lot of people try to make a video like try. When I say try to make it like.

Like oh man, if you're if you're talking about creators for virtual reality, Bro, my background is I'm an actor, Like that's what Actually, that's my main thing. Like I love virtual reality but one day and pop off on the big screen cap and be a live actor superhero. So everybody listening, just make sure y'all manifest that. But okay, so honestly, it's really just get in there, have fun. But the biggest thing is for me is quality. But if you have like if you set that up and just have a system that will already be there and all you really have to focus on is having fun and like being in the moment and proving right. I'll see a lot of people try to make a video like try. When I say try to make it like.

It's like they sit down like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's gonna be funny.

It's like they sit down like, Okay, I'm gonna make a video and it's gonna be funny.

Yeah, And that's not how it works all the time, you know what I'm saying, because a lot of people can tell when you try to do something, if something is naturally funny, you're gonna you can tell if you try to make a joke, you have to it's a certain finesse you gotta do to make it seem like it wasn't scripted right, because a lot of people don't have that finesse. So I feel like in order to be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game and record it.

Yeah, And that's not how it works all the time, you know what I'm saying, because a lot of people can tell when you try to do something, if something is naturally funny, you're gonna you can tell if you try to make a joke, you have to it's a certain finesse you gotta do to make it seem like it wasn't scripted right, because a lot of people don't have that finesse. So I feel like in order to be a content creator, be you. That's the biggest thing. Be you. Don't try to be anyone else. Just play the game and record it.

Yeah, and just you know, show you again. Just make it all that because you never know. I could tell you you never know what's gonna be the thing exactly right, and like you know, to that point, you know you're one of your biggest pieces of content ever the whole Star Wars thing, right, Like that just was something you were playing around with.

Yeah, and just you know, show you again. Just make it all that because you never know. I could tell you you never know what's gonna be the thing exactly right, and like you know, to that point, you know you're one of your biggest pieces of content ever the whole Star Wars thing, right, Like that just was something you were playing around with.

Bro. Do you know I filmed for okay, my camera Mike Canon, the os and fifty films for thirty minutes every time, right, and then it stops for recording. So I'll be like, okay, I got thirty minutes to record, I'm gonna stop. I know I got thirty minutes, so I'll check it. Bro. I had twenty five minutes left on the camera, and I say, you know what, Bro, And it's exactly why I say, do not try just play the game. That video that got four million likes. Bro, I spent twenty five minutes trying to film a video playing the game. I looked at the camera. I said, I got five more minutes. You know what, Bro, I'm not it. I don't feel nothing I did, and none of this cool, none of it viral. B. I hopped in there and just played for five minutes, since I'm just have fun. That video happened in that five minutes. That five minutes of me just having fun change my life. Wow, because look, Bro, I sat there for twenty five minutes trying to do something cool. I'm like, I'm in here. Let me dang. That wasn't smooth. I didn't go how it goes. I took my hand, set off, I white sweat off my head. I was like, bro, you know what, man, let me just see how much time? Like I don't even care. And that's literally why my face was so like there was no emotion on my face because I literally was mad. I filmed for twenty five minutes, and so many comments on that video were like, bro, you did it so heartless. Bro, you don't know how mad I was when I had twenty five minutes of nothing. So I was like, literally, what's funny? It's just like, I think the anger of me not getting nothing that twenty five minutes is the reason I was able to smoothly decapitate that woman so easily, because that was the smoothest you would think I practiced that. When you looked at that, people are like, bro, put him in the next Star Wars movie. They kept tagging Disney. I ain't gonna lie to you. I thought my life was gonna change with that video. You know what I mean? People tag Disney. I said, oh snap, bro, it's over with but yeah, but that message is just to say if You're gonna make content. Please just be you, do you, and it's gonna come out great. By I promise, I don't overthink it. Just make the content. I promise you. Bro.