This is not a conversation about Savage Garden.

This is a conversation which is one of the most raw and honest conversations Osher has had on this podcast.

Darren and Osher speak about his journey through trauma and therapy in a way that's both heartbreaking and hopeful, what it really means to be "successful" while carrying invisible wounds, and how sometimes the very things that help us cope – like performing – can become our careers.

Enjoy this conversation with the magnificent Darren Hayes.

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