Joshua Fields Millburn and Ryan Nicodemus are "The Minimalists" their hugely successful Netflix series, podcast and books have helped over 20 million people live meaningful lives with less.

Their new book Love People, Use Things (because the opposite never works) is out now.






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Joshua Fields Millburn and Ryan Nicodemus are "The Minimalists" their hugely successful Netflix series, podcast and books have helped over 20 million people live meaningful lives with less.Their new book Love People, Use Things (because the opposite never works) is out now. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher Günsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it’s authentic conversations. Sometimes we’ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you’ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher G&uuml;nsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it&rsquo;s authentic conversations. Sometimes we&rsquo;ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you&rsquo;ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

Helping you make today better than yesterday since 2013.

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Günsberg

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Gunsberg

394: Love People, Use Things (Because the Opposite never works) with Ryan & Josh aka The Minimalists

In this episode, you'll hear the true story of how I met — and nearly didn’t kiss — the woman who would become my wife. This was originally recorded live at Story Club at Sydney’s Factory Theatre, as part of a Valentine’s-themed show.

From terrifying encounters with a woman whose boyfriend worked for Kanye West, to a painfully unromantic first kiss involving vegan Tim Tams, it's a true story of love, vulnerability, and learning how to build a healthy relationship after years of chaos and self-destruction, plus some insights into storytelling, communication, and why true stories have the power to connect us in ways nothing else can.

If you like what you hear and want to be part of it, we do Story Club on a regular basis - all the links are below!

LINKS 
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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In this episode, you'll hear the true story of how I met &mdash; and nearly didn&rsquo;t kiss &mdash; the woman who would become my wife. This was originally recorded live at Story Club at Sydney&rsquo;s Factory Theatre, as part of a Valentine&rsquo;s-themed show.
From terrifying encounters with a woman whose boyfriend worked for Kanye West, to a painfully unromantic first kiss involving vegan Tim Tams, it's a true story of love, vulnerability, and learning how to build a healthy relationship after years of chaos and self-destruction,&nbsp;plus some insights into storytelling, communication, and why true stories have the power to connect us in ways nothing else can.
If you like what you hear and want to be part of it, we do Story Club on a regular basis - all the links are below!
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">&nbsp;on YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
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<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">&nbsp;on YouTube</a></li>
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The True Story About The Night I First Kissed My Wife

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/ebc78b4e-b5a8-43f1-8d79-b4550015a0a1/transcript

In this episode, trial lawyer and communication expert Jefferson Fisher explores the real art of communication — from difficult conversations and emotional regulation to ego, relationships and the hidden psychology behind how we speak to one another.

Drawing on his experience as a courtroom advocate and one of the internet’s most trusted voices on communication, Jefferson shares practical insights into staying calm under pressure, handling conflict without escalation, and learning how to truly listen. Together, Jefferson and I unpack why so many of us struggle with communication, how our upbringing shapes the way we argue and connect, and what happens when we replace human connection with screens and text messages.

We also cover the prevalence of public speaking anxiety, emotional intelligence, humility and the importance of curiosity over ego. Along the way, Jefferson offers simple but powerful tools for navigating heated moments, understanding what people really mean beneath their words, and becoming more intentional in the way we show up for others.

This insightful conversation is packed with useful advice you can use right now if you want stronger relationships, better conversations and a deeper understanding of what it means to truly connect as human beings.

LINKS 
Catch Jefferson Fisher live in Australia in July 2026
Jefferson's book 'The Next Conversation' is out now
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

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In this episode, trial lawyer and communication expert Jefferson Fisher explores the real art of communication &mdash; from difficult conversations and emotional regulation to ego, relationships and the hidden psychology behind how we speak to one another.
Drawing on his experience as a courtroom advocate and one of the internet&rsquo;s most trusted voices on communication, Jefferson shares practical insights into staying calm under pressure, handling conflict without escalation, and learning how to truly listen. Together, Jefferson and I unpack why so many of us struggle with communication, how our upbringing shapes the way we argue and connect, and what happens when we replace human connection with screens and text messages.
We also cover the prevalence of public speaking anxiety, emotional intelligence, humility and the importance of curiosity over ego. Along the way, Jefferson offers simple but powerful tools for navigating heated moments, understanding what people really mean beneath their words, and becoming more intentional in the way we show up for others.
This insightful conversation is packed with useful advice you can use right now if you want stronger relationships, better conversations and a deeper understanding of what it means to truly connect as human beings.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Catch Jefferson Fisher <a href="https://au.thinkable.events/jefferson-fisher-tour/">live in Australia in July 2026</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Jefferson's book 'The Next Conversation' is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-next-conversation-9780241719886">out now</a></li>
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<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">&nbsp;on YouTube</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"><a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">Get tickets </a>for our next Story Club show</li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" <a href="https://linktr.ee/osher_gunsberg">here</a></li>
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&nbsp;

How to Communicate Better in Every Conversation with Jefferson Fisher

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/d02d34a6-c7f6-46f6-8141-b44e003c9604/transcript

In this episode of Better Than Yesterday, we revisit a powerful conversation with Adam Garone, co-founder of Movember, to explore how one of the world’s most successful grassroots movements began not with a strategy or manifesto, but with a simple dare among friends.

What started in a Melbourne backyard as a playful challenge to bring back the moustache quickly evolved into a global campaign for men’s health. Over time, Movember has grown into a worldwide movement spanning more than 20 countries, engaging millions of participants and raising over a billion dollars for prostate cancer, testicular cancer, and mental health initiatives.

This episode unpacks the surprising mechanics behind Movember’s success: why playfulness can be more powerful than seriousness in capturing attention, how trust and community participation fuel organic growth, and why the organisation’s biggest innovation may be treating participants not as audiences, but as co-creators of the movement.

We also hear how Movember has helped reshape medical research itself—connecting previously isolated researchers across the globe and fostering collaboration that accelerates breakthroughs in men’s health.

It's a conversation about rethinking how change happens, and challenging the idea that movements need perfection or authority to begin. Instead, curiosity, connection, and a bit of irreverence can actually drive real-world impact.

LINKS 
Listen to the full interview here
Find out more about the great work of Movember here
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
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In this episode of Better Than Yesterday, we revisit a powerful conversation with Adam Garone, co-founder of Movember, to explore how one of the world&rsquo;s most successful grassroots movements began not with a strategy or manifesto, but with a simple dare among friends.
What started in a Melbourne backyard as a playful challenge to bring back the moustache quickly evolved into a global campaign for men&rsquo;s health. Over time, Movember has grown into a worldwide movement spanning more than 20 countries, engaging millions of participants and raising over a billion dollars for prostate cancer, testicular cancer, and mental health initiatives.
This episode unpacks the surprising mechanics behind Movember&rsquo;s success: why playfulness can be more powerful than seriousness in capturing attention, how trust and community participation fuel organic growth, and why the organisation&rsquo;s biggest innovation may be treating participants not as audiences, but as co-creators of the movement.
We also hear how Movember has helped reshape medical research itself&mdash;connecting previously isolated researchers across the globe and fostering collaboration that accelerates breakthroughs in men&rsquo;s health.
It's a conversation about rethinking how change happens, and challenging the idea that movements need perfection or authority to begin. Instead, curiosity, connection, and a bit of irreverence can actually drive real-world impact.
LINKS&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Listen to the full interview <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/better-than-yesterday-with-osher-g-nsberg1/6-adam-garone">here</a></li>
<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Find out more about the great work of Movember <a href="https://au.movember.com/">here</a></li>
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<li aria-setsize="-1" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Watch full stories recorded live at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">Story Club</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@storyclublive">&nbsp;on YouTube</a></li>
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