My guest today is Ali Hill. 

She’s the CEO of Australian Financial Review Fast 100 company Pragmatic Thinking, she’s a psychologist and a best-selling author of the book “Stand Out: A real world guide to get clear, find purpose and become the boss of busy”. 

Seems like a pretty good idea, right?

Her podcast is called “Stand Out life” and can be heard wherever podcasts are - probably the same place you hear this one. 

She’s got a lot to say about psychology and the role of psychology in negotiation in the workplace, care at work and how to manage stresses that come with a modern life - but you’ll hear all of that in the next hour. 

You can find her on IG at @alihill

Hope you enjoy this chat with Ali Hill.

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