Nathan Appo is an athlete, activist, TV host and Health and Lifestyle officer for Deadly Choices - which is an initiative targeting Urban Indigenous Health, particularly the mental health of young indigenous men. 

He’s raising money for Movember at mobro.co/deadlychoices

I’m at mobro.co/osher 

He’s a great guy, I’m stoked to have him on. 

We met in the radio station so there’s some BG noise. 

Follow him on twitter @elusive_sausage


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Nathan Appo is an athlete, activist, TV host and Health and Lifestyle officer for Deadly Choices - which is an initiative targeting Urban Indigenous Health, particularly the mental health of young indigenous men.&nbsp;He’s raising money for Movember at&nbsp;<a href="http://mobro.co/deadlychoices" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mobro.co/deadlychoices</a>I’m at <a href="http://mobro.co/osher" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mobro.co/osher</a>&nbsp;He’s a great guy, I’m stoked to have him on.&nbsp;We met in the radio station so there’s some BG noise.&nbsp;Follow him on twitter <a href="https://www.twitter.com/elusive_sausage" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@elusive_sausage</a> <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher Günsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it’s authentic conversations. Sometimes we’ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you’ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

With every new day comes the opportunity to grow. Hosted by Osher G&uuml;nsberg - a best-selling author, podcaster, TV host, husband, dad, stepdad, electric mobility enthusiast and part-time climate worrier. This podcast is here to help make today better than yesterday. Since 2013, the show has set out to improve life for you and the people you love. Sometimes it&rsquo;s authentic conversations. Sometimes we&rsquo;ll unpack the news or hear how Osher deals with life as a sober person with a different brain. But you&rsquo;ll always hear something you need to hear (and laugh while you do). Listen to feel less alone, build better habits and discover some solution-based approaches for when life gets tricky.

Helping you make today better than yesterday since 2013.

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Günsberg

Better Than Yesterday with Osher Gunsberg

158: Nathan Appo

What do boy bands, modern dating and unhealthy masculinity have in common?

According to today's guest - comedian, writer and performer Bridie Connell - more than you think.

In this hilarious conversation, Bridie joins me to talk about her wildly original musical F*ccbois: Live In Concert — a sharp, affectionate and very funny satire about a fictional boy band, performed entirely by a female and non-binary cast in drag.

Bridie shares how years of observing modern dating culture, “love bombing”, gaslighting and the strange choreography of bad male behaviour inspired the show. And how what began as a desire to write about “f*ck boys” eventually became a full-scale musical and a love letter to the boy bands of the ’90s and 2000s, like Backstreet Boys, *NSync and Westlife.

The show is hilarious - if you get the chance to see it, you won't regret it!

LINKS 
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Follow F*ccbois: Live in Concert for future show announcements
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Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
Get tickets for our next Story Club show
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

What do boy bands, modern dating and unhealthy masculinity have in common?
According to today's guest - comedian, writer and performer Bridie Connell - more than you think.
In this hilarious conversation, Bridie joins me to talk about her wildly original musical F*ccbois: Live In Concert&nbsp;&mdash; a sharp, affectionate and very funny satire about a fictional boy band, performed entirely by a female and non-binary cast in drag.
Bridie shares how years of observing modern dating culture, &ldquo;love bombing&rdquo;, gaslighting and the strange choreography of bad male behaviour inspired the show. And how what began as a desire to write about &ldquo;f*ck boys&rdquo; eventually became a full-scale musical and a love letter to the boy bands of the &rsquo;90s and 2000s, like Backstreet Boys, *NSync and Westlife.
The show is hilarious - if you get the chance to see it, you won't regret it!
LINKS&nbsp;
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How Bridie Connell Built a Fake Boy Band That Feels Real

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/13beeb64-af9a-48d9-8f3c-b41e001a4c2a/transcript

If you've wondered whether electrification is actually feasible, affordable, or secure — this episode answers those questions with data, not hope.

Saul Griffith — MIT engineer, inventor, and author of Electrify: An Optimist's Playbook for Our Clean Energy Future — reveals why Australia is uniquely positioned to lead the world's energy transition, starting with transport. In this Best Of episode focused on energy security and transportation, Saul explains why electric vehicle adoption will happen faster than anyone expects once price parity hits, how EVs actually make the grid more resilient by serving as distributed battery storage, and why hydrogen vehicles are a fossil fuel industry distraction that can't compete with batteries on physics or economics.

You'll hear:
The 35-second plan that could decarbonize Australia by 2030
Why rooftop solar's explosive growth previews what's coming for EVs
How the Ford F-150 going electric changes cultural perceptions overnight
Why Australian households with EVs could go off-grid for 10+ days
The engineering reality that kills hydrogen's viability for transport

LINKS 
Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter 
Watch episodes of Better Than Yesterday on YouTube 
Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube 
Get tickets for our next Story Club show 
Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here 
Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

If you've wondered whether electrification is actually feasible, affordable, or secure &mdash; this episode answers those questions with data, not hope.
Saul Griffith &mdash; MIT engineer, inventor, and author of Electrify: An Optimist's Playbook for Our Clean Energy Future &mdash; reveals why Australia is uniquely positioned to lead the world's energy transition, starting with transport. In this Best Of episode focused on energy security and transportation, Saul explains why electric vehicle adoption will happen faster than anyone expects once price parity hits, how EVs actually make the grid more resilient by serving as distributed battery storage, and why hydrogen vehicles are a fossil fuel industry distraction that can't compete with batteries on physics or economics.
You'll hear:
<ul>
<li>The 35-second plan that could decarbonize Australia by 2030</li>
<li>Why rooftop solar's explosive growth previews what's coming for EVs</li>
<li>How the Ford F-150 going electric changes cultural perceptions overnight</li>
<li>Why Australian households with EVs could go off-grid for 10+ days</li>
<li>The engineering reality that kills hydrogen's viability for transport</li>
</ul>
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Energy Security Through Transport Electrification with Saul Griffith 

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/3406fa5a-7eb1-4e49-9055-b41a005a0b5d/transcript

What does it actually mean to live a good life in a world that feels increasingly complex, divided, and emotionally charged? 

In this conversation, I speak with world-renowned moral philosopher and professor of bioethics Peter Singer to unpack some of the hardest questions of our time—from the ethics of global conflict and public discourse, to why we ignore suffering we could prevent, and what we really owe one another. 

We explore the tension between outrage and empathy, the psychology behind why we cling to certain beliefs even when faced with evidence, and how identity can quietly shape (and limit) our thinking. Peter also shares the personal story of how he radically changed his own views, and why being willing to revise your beliefs isn’t just intellectual humility… it’s a moral responsibility. 

And Peter explains how to make donations to charity have the greatest impact in 2026. 
 

LINKS 
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Sign up to the Better Than Yesterday newsletter 
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Send a pic of what you're looking at to sendosheremail@gmail.com 

What does it&nbsp;actually mean&nbsp;to live a good life in a world that feels increasingly complex, divided, and emotionally charged?&nbsp;
In this conversation,&nbsp;I speak&nbsp;with world-renowned moral philosopher&nbsp;and&nbsp;professor of bioethics&nbsp;Peter Singer&nbsp;to unpack some of the hardest questions of our time&mdash;from the ethics of global conflict and public discourse, to why we ignore suffering we could prevent, and what we&nbsp;really&nbsp;owe one another.&nbsp;
We&nbsp;explore the tension between outrage and empathy, the psychology behind why we cling to&nbsp;certain&nbsp;beliefs even when faced with evidence, and how identity can quietly shape&nbsp;(and limit)&nbsp;our thinking. Peter also shares the personal story of how he radically changed his own views, and why being willing to revise your beliefs&nbsp;isn&rsquo;t&nbsp;just intellectual humility&hellip;&nbsp;it&rsquo;s&nbsp;a moral responsibility.&nbsp;
And Peter explains how to make donations to charity have the greatest impact in 2026.&nbsp; &nbsp;
LINKS&nbsp;
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</ul>
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</ul>
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</ul>
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Motivated Reasoning: Why We Believe What We Want with Peter Singer 

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