This week, Paula is joined by New Zealand's iconic footwear designer and businesswoman, Kathyrn Wilson. They discuss where her love of shoes came from, how she got Beyoncé to wear her shoes, as well as sharing advice on how to thrive as a New Zealand business with international pressure, particularly with competition from fast fashion.

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45:50

The time MKR's Colin Fassnidge went crazy in the jungle
32:57

Barry Soper on the loneliness that comes with being prime minister
46:48