This summer we're curating your 456 playlist listening to bring you some of our favourite interviews from MID and No Filter.

Sally Hepworth is one of Australia’s most successful and best-loved authors. Her novels are regularly top bestseller lists around the world.

She’s known for writing darkly funny, page-turning stories about marriage, motherhood, secrets and betrayal. But in this episode of No Filter, Sally shares her own story — and it’s as layered and compelling as one of her books.

Sitting down with Kate Langbroek, Sally talks candidly about ending her 20-year marriage, co-parenting with her ex, and why she no longer believes marriage is a good deal for women.

She also explains why she’ll never live with a man again, how her family reacted to her decision, and why, despite the heartbreak, this next chapter might just be her happiest yet.

You can buy Mad Mabel by Sally Hepworth here and The Family Next Door has all episodes available to stream on ABC iview.

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CREDITS:

Guest: Sally Hepworth

Host: Kate Langbroek

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Senior Producer: Bree Player

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

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