What happens when one of Australia’s most recognisable wellness voices, bestselling I Quit Sugar author and TED Talk speaker Sarah Wilson, stops talking about sugar and starts talking about the collapse of civilisation?

This week, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with journalist, author and activist Sarah Wilson for one of the most provocative conversations You’re Gonna Want To Hear This has aired yet, landing as Sarah launches her powerful new book, I Eat the Stars.

For more than a decade, Sarah has been researching what she calls collapse: the unravelling of the systems we’ve built around endless growth, convenience and consumption. In this deeply personal, often wildly funny and at times confronting conversation, she shares why she’s “broken up with hope,” why letting go of hope brought her relief, and why, despite everything she believes is coming, she says she’s never been happier.

In this conversation, Sarah Wilson joins marie claire editor Georgie McCourt to talk collapse, climate anxiety, AI, tech bros, motherhood, pregnancy loss, Paris, midlife reinvention, hiking, nature, philosophy, critical thinking and what it means to stay human in uncertain times.

This episode covers:

• Why Sarah Wilson says “I’ve broken up with hope”
• What collapse actually means and why Sarah believes we’re already living through it
• Climate anxiety, burnout and how to live with uncertainty
• AI, tech bros and why Sarah says “the robots aren’t coming”
• Why young women should study philosophy, critical thinking and the humanities
• The question many women are asking right now: should I still have children?
• Why Sarah says the answer is “absolutely”
• Pregnancy loss, motherhood, grief and finding peace with a different path
• Moving to Paris before turning 50
• French men, midlife reinvention and starting again
• Hiking, nature, mental health and cathedral thinking
• Sarah Wilson’s new book, I Eat the Stars

Sarah Wilson’s new book I Eat the Stars is out now.

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Credits:
Host: Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt
Edited by: Charlie Potter
Executive Producer: Jessie-Lee Klass
Head of Vodcasting: Rachel Fountain

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