This week, Kat has New York Times best-selling author, Shauna Niequist on the show. Ever call yourself dumb or stupid when you learn something new for the first time? Well, despite what a lot of us have been taught, kindness and grace is a wayyy more effective motivator than shame- and Shauna is here in this episode to share how a simple shift in language has helped her family during difficult transitions in their lives. In this conversation you will also hear Shauna and Kat talk about the complexities of setting boundaries for and with yourself so you can live the life you actually want rather than a life that may look "impressive" to others.

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