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This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. Download a course guide to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.

 

In an age marked by political polarisation, moral confusion, and deep mistrust of institutions, what does it mean to live well together? Are we primarily citizens of the state, autonomous individuals, or something else entirely? Join Michael at the 27th Annual Tinsley Lecture on 21 May as he explores the distinctive political vision offered by Christian faith in Subjects and Citizens – What Christianity Offers a Fractured Public Square.

 

Key Takeaways:
The anxiety surrounding parenting may be tied to societal pressures and cultural expectations, exacerbated by digital advancements and social media comparisons.
Effective parenting often involves striking a balance between discipline and nurturing, a strategy supported by research on authoritative parenting.
Vulnerability and authenticity in parenting, including open conversations about difficult topics, can foster a healthy family environment.
Modern parents face unique challenges compared to previous generations, necessitating new methods and flexibility in parenting styles.
Engaging in meaningful discussions with children about important life topics, like faith and personal responsibility, is crucial for their development and character building.

Notable Quotes:
"Parenting has become a sort of visible metric of our sanctification." - Michael Jensen
"We are parenting our children for this life and for the people that they interact with." - Collett Smart
"We need to let go of expectations we had for them. Those are gone now." - Collett Smart
"Parenting is a school for our own discipleship." - Michael Jensen
"Allowing our children to experience some discomfort, but then supporting them through that." - Collett Smart

Resources:
Her Podcast: Raising Teens with Collett Smart
Collett Smart's Book: They'll Be Okay: 15 Conversations to Help Your Child Through Troubled Times

This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. <a href="https://info.morling.edu.au/l/979923/2023-03-26/5967sq">Download a course guide</a> to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.
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In an age marked by political polarisation, moral confusion, and deep mistrust of institutions, what does it mean to live well together? Are we primarily citizens of the state, autonomous individuals, or something else entirely? Join Michael at the <a href="https://info.morling.edu.au/tinsley-annual-lecture">27th Annual Tinsley Lecture</a> on 21 May as he explores the distinctive political vision offered by Christian faith in Subjects and Citizens &ndash; What Christianity Offers a Fractured Public Square.
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Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>The anxiety surrounding parenting may be tied to societal pressures and cultural expectations, exacerbated by digital advancements and social media comparisons.</li>
<li>Effective parenting often involves striking a balance between discipline and nurturing, a strategy supported by research on authoritative parenting.</li>
<li>Vulnerability and authenticity in parenting, including open conversations about difficult topics, can foster a healthy family environment.</li>
<li>Modern parents face unique challenges compared to previous generations, necessitating new methods and flexibility in parenting styles.</li>
<li>Engaging in meaningful discussions with children about important life topics, like faith and personal responsibility, is crucial for their development and character building.</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ul>
<li>"Parenting has become a sort of visible metric of our sanctification." - Michael Jensen</li>
<li>"We are parenting our children for this life and for the people that they interact with." - Collett Smart</li>
<li>"We need to let go of expectations we had for them. Those are gone now." - Collett Smart</li>
<li>"Parenting is a school for our own discipleship." - Michael Jensen</li>
<li>"Allowing our children to experience some discomfort, but then supporting them through that." - Collett Smart</li>
</ul>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://hope1032.com.au/programs/podcasts/raising-teens">Her Podcast: Raising Teens with Collett Smart</a></li>
<li>Collett Smart's Book: <a href="https://koorong.com/product/they-ll-be-okay-15-conversations-to-help_9780733640766?gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=17180968444&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwhLPOBhBiEiwA8_wJHGbEXu5-1G2jasKCJxDI6hAE4an4yIyKjW7YFGpaVqvydB98AazGyxoCGxIQAvD_BwE">They'll Be Okay: 15 Conversations to Help Your Child Through Troubled Times</a></li>
</ul>

Less aggro, more conversation. 

Is it even possible to have a deep discussion without it descending into chaos? Michael Jensen and Megan Powell du Toit think yes, and want to show the rest of us how to do it. 

There’s plenty of things they disagree on: free will, feminism, where you should send your kids to school and what type of church you should go to. But there are also plenty of other things that they have in common. They want to talk about all these things with conviction. But they also want the conversation to be constructive. Tune in to find out if that’s possible.

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Parenting: Stop Trying to Be the Holy Spirit | Collett Smart

Producer's note: In case the title has stirred up some strong emotions, women account for 75-80% of this genre.

Professor Catharine Lumby is an Australian academic, author and journalist, and is currently Chair of the Department of Media and Communications at the University of Sydney. Before transitioning to academia, Lumby had an extensive career in journalism, working as a feature writer and columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald, a news reporter for the ABC, and a columnist and senior writer at The Bulletin. She obtained her PhD from Macquarie University, after completing an Arts/Law degree at the University of Sydney, and went on to become the foundation Chair of the Media and Communications Department at the University of Sydney. Her academic career has included senior roles at UNSW, where she was the foundation Director of the Journalism and Media Research Centre, and at Macquarie University as Professor of Media, before returning to the University of Sydney as Professor of Media Studies. With research interests spanning gender, sexuality and popular culture, Lumby is also a widely published author and media commentator on gender and media, which makes her insights into the intersection of media consumption and social behaviors particularly impactful.

Key Takeaways:
The true crime genre has historical roots in 16th-century Britain and has evolved from public ballads to podcasts.
Women's consumption of true crime is often linked to a desire for empowerment and understanding in a world with prevalent gendered violence.
Fictional detectives use empirical reasoning as a counterpart to be analysed alongside faith-focused narratives in crime.
The host's discussion touches upon legal responses to crime and human fascination with extreme acts, pushing listeners to consider moral and spiritual reflections.
Empathy is highlighted as critical to understanding the broader implications of true crime stories, beyond mere voyeurism.

Notable Quotes:
"True crime is an opportunity to really perhaps understand things from the victim's point of view, the survivor's point of view..." - Professor Catharine Lumby
"The Bible is a realistic book and it doesn't shy away from…difficult things." - Megan Powell du Toit
"At its deepest, realising that none of us are that far…from what we might see as monstrous." - Professor Catharine Lumby
"Empathy, for me, is the highest quality." - Professor Catharine Lumby
"The cross itself is a kind of true crime. It's a realistic display of evil and ultimate redemption." - Michael Jensen

Resources:
Helen Garner's Works: Noted for her insightful writing on justice and human behavior.
Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood": A seminal true crime book mentioned during the discussion.
Teacher's Pet Podcast: Explored as a notable example of true crime media in Australia.


This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. Download a course guide to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.


Morling to Go  is a collection of free, short, video-based courses created by Morling College to support thoughtful Christian learning and formation. Designed for individuals, small groups, and ministry teams, each course includes teaching videos and discussion questions led by respected evangelical scholars and practitioners. Explore each course and find a resource that best fits your context.

Producer's note: In case the title has stirred up some strong emotions,&nbsp;<a href="https://keypennews.org/stories/drawn-to-darkness-womens-obsession-with-true-crime,8921">women account for 75-80% of this genre</a>.
Professor Catharine Lumby is an Australian academic, author and journalist, and is currently Chair of the Department of Media and Communications at the University of Sydney. Before transitioning to academia, Lumby had an extensive career in journalism, working as a feature writer and columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald, a news reporter for the ABC, and a columnist and senior writer at The Bulletin. She obtained her PhD from Macquarie University, after completing an Arts/Law degree at the University of Sydney, and went on to become the foundation Chair of the Media and Communications Department at the University of Sydney. Her academic career has included senior roles at UNSW, where she was the foundation Director of the Journalism and Media Research Centre, and at Macquarie University as Professor of Media, before returning to the University of Sydney as Professor of Media Studies. With research interests spanning gender, sexuality and popular culture, Lumby is also a widely published author and media commentator on gender and media, which makes her insights into the intersection of media consumption and social behaviors particularly impactful.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>The true crime genre has historical roots in 16th-century Britain and has evolved from public ballads to podcasts.</li>
<li>Women's consumption of true crime is often linked to a desire for empowerment and understanding in a world with prevalent gendered violence.</li>
<li>Fictional detectives use empirical reasoning as a counterpart to be analysed alongside faith-focused narratives in crime.</li>
<li>The host's discussion touches upon legal responses to crime and human fascination with extreme acts, pushing listeners to consider moral and spiritual reflections.</li>
<li>Empathy is highlighted as critical to understanding the broader implications of true crime stories, beyond mere voyeurism.</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ol>
<li>"True crime is an opportunity to really perhaps understand things from the victim's point of view, the survivor's point of view..." - Professor Catharine Lumby</li>
<li>"The Bible is a realistic book and it doesn't shy away from&hellip;difficult things." - Megan Powell du Toit</li>
<li>"At its deepest, realising that none of us are that far&hellip;from what we might see as monstrous." - Professor Catharine Lumby</li>
<li>"Empathy, for me, is the highest quality." - Professor Catharine Lumby</li>
<li>"The cross itself is a kind of true crime. It's a realistic display of evil and ultimate redemption." - Michael Jensen</li>
</ol>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/helen-garner/author626.html?srsltid=AfmBOooJsrJA3z7rZ52QqoSH1atZGZ2UwiByAgUtUcCZjmIYVc39h3TT">Helen Garner's Works</a>: Noted for her insightful writing on justice and human behavior.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Cold-Blood-Truman-Capote/dp/0679745580">Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood":</a> A seminal true crime book mentioned during the discussion.</li>
<li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5F7LPOIgHtSy4XKU26w7J4?si=ad3f9f2a46e849a3">Teacher's Pet Podcast</a>: Explored as a notable example of true crime media in Australia.</li>
<li></li>
</ul>
This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. <a href="https://info.morling.edu.au/l/979923/2023-03-26/5967sq">Download a course guide</a> to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.
 <a href="https://www.morling.edu.au/morling-to-go">Morling to Go</a>&nbsp; is a collection of free, short, video-based courses created by Morling College to support thoughtful Christian learning and formation. Designed for individuals, small groups, and ministry teams, each course includes teaching videos and discussion questions led by respected evangelical scholars and practitioners. Explore each course and find a resource that best fits your context.

True Crime: Why Women Watch It | Catharine Lumby

This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. Download a course guide to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.

Morling to Go  is a collection of free, short, video-based courses created by Morling College to support thoughtful Christian learning and formation. Designed for individuals, small groups, and ministry teams, each course includes teaching videos and discussion questions led by respected evangelical scholars and practitioners. Explore each course and find a resource that best fits your context.

About the Guest:

Prof Miroslav Volf is a distinguished theologian and the Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology at Yale Divinity School, where he directs the Yale Center for Faith and Culture. Originally from Croatia, Volf has had a significant impact in theological circles through his focus on identity, otherness, and reconciliation. He is best known for his acclaimed book Exclusion and Embrace, which Christianity Today named one of the 100 most influential religious books of the twentieth century. Volf has also served as an advisor to the President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships at the White House.

Key Takeaways:
Ambition is a multifaceted concept, often viewed as both a virtue and a vice across history and cultures.
Miroslav Volf emphasises the toxicity of comparing oneself to others and how striving for excellence should surpass endeavors for superiority.
The importance of intrinsic value over societal metrics in measuring success and personal worth is underscored.
Biblical narratives, such as those in Philippians and the Gospels, highlight the transformative power of purpose-driven ambition for God's glory.
The cultural portrayal of ambition, exemplified by classic literature and modern TV series, calls for a reflective look at our own motivations and societal structures.

Notable Quotes:
"God's love is not a generic thing thrown over the world; it remembers the specificity of the one."
"Each of us has a generic nature, but each of us has also a specific nature."
"Ambition with a pious swoosh can easily become selfish ambition if not directed carefully."
"The widow's two coins were worth more than the great sums of the rich; she gave everything."
"Our society often measures success quantitatively, but Jesus looked at the heart, the interior life."

Resources:
Miroslav Volf's Book: The Cost of Ambition
Miroslav Volf's Book: Exclusion and Embrace

 

This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. <a href="https://info.morling.edu.au/l/979923/2023-03-26/5967sq">Download a course guide</a> to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.
<a href="https://www.morling.edu.au/morling-to-go">Morling to Go</a>&nbsp; is a collection of free, short, video-based courses created by Morling College to support thoughtful Christian learning and formation. Designed for individuals, small groups, and ministry teams, each course includes teaching videos and discussion questions led by respected evangelical scholars and practitioners. Explore each course and find a resource that best fits your context.
About the Guest:
Prof Miroslav Volf is a distinguished theologian and the Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology at Yale Divinity School, where he directs the Yale Center for Faith and Culture. Originally from Croatia, Volf has had a significant impact in theological circles through his focus on identity, otherness, and reconciliation. He is best known for his acclaimed book&nbsp;Exclusion and Embrace, which Christianity Today named one of the 100 most influential religious books of the twentieth century. Volf has also served as an advisor to the President&rsquo;s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships at the White House.
Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>Ambition is a multifaceted concept, often viewed as both a virtue and a vice across history and cultures.</li>
<li>Miroslav Volf emphasises the toxicity of comparing oneself to others and how striving for excellence should surpass endeavors for superiority.</li>
<li>The importance of intrinsic value over societal metrics in measuring success and personal worth is underscored.</li>
<li>Biblical narratives, such as those in Philippians and the Gospels, highlight the transformative power of purpose-driven ambition for God's glory.</li>
<li>The cultural portrayal of ambition, exemplified by classic literature and modern TV series, calls for a reflective look at our own motivations and societal structures.</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ol>
<li>"God's love is not a generic thing thrown over the world; it remembers the specificity of the one."</li>
<li>"Each of us has a generic nature, but each of us has also a specific nature."</li>
<li>"Ambition with a pious swoosh can easily become selfish ambition if not directed carefully."</li>
<li>"The widow's two coins were worth more than the great sums of the rich; she gave everything."</li>
<li>"Our society often measures success quantitatively, but Jesus looked at the heart, the interior life."</li>
</ol>
Resources:
<ul>
<li>Miroslav Volf's Book: <a href="https://koorong.com/product/the-cost-of-ambition-how-striving-to-be_9781587434815?srsltid=AfmBOor-9TE8Wo3UaQV3AqYj-_ksPI3Iqcq8RKI-3H4nW_B4aQ8c27t4">The Cost of Ambition</a></li>
<li>Miroslav Volf's Book: <a href="https://koorong.com/product/exclusion-and-embrace-a-theological-exploration-of-identity_9781501861079?srsltid=AfmBOort828OlsIE5nPT0jfYwAVDJtK1DPLZyG0f4u4A9EkWximnDrD5">Exclusion and Embrace</a></li>
</ul>
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When Ambition Becomes Toxic with Prof Miroslav Volf

This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. Download a course guide to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.

Morling to Go  is a collection of free, short, video-based courses created by Morling College to support thoughtful Christian learning and formation. Designed for individuals, small groups, and ministry teams, each course includes teaching videos and discussion questions led by respected evangelical scholars and practitioners. Explore each course and find a resource that best fits your context.

About the Guest

The Reverend Dr. Amy Peeler is the Kenneth T. Wessner Chair of Biblical Studies and Professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Illinois, and serves as a priest at St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Geneva, Illinois. She earned her MDiv and PhD in Biblical Studies from Princeton Theological Seminary and is a New Testament scholar whose work often focuses on Hebrews and the relationship between men and women in Christianity. She has authored several books on Hebrews and most recently wrote “Ordinary Time,” which explores the meaning of this often overlooked season in the church year

Key Points:
Sacred in the Mundane: The ordinary moments in life can hold spiritual significance, challenging the conventional belief that only extraordinary events are divinely touched.
Liturgical Reflection: The Christian liturgical calendar offers a balanced rhythm of ordinary and special times, emphasising continual spiritual growth.
Cultural Dualism: Exploring how religious traditions perceive and often segregate the sacred from the mundane, revealing potential tensions and integrations.
Everyday Miracles: Leveraging routine and structure, such as daily prayers, can help recognise and appreciate God's omnipresence in everyday life.
Ordinary as Extraordinary: The discussion in "Train Dreams" and the insights by Amy Peeler highlight finding fulfillment and divine purpose in ordinary life moments.

Notable Quotes:
"When you change the nappy of the infant, pray to God the Father for, you know, pray in praise of his work in this small infant." - Michael Jensen
"Ordinary time does help us practice for eternity… these repeated actions are growing." - Amy Peeler
"God wants to sanctify us, grow and deepen our faith." - Amy Peeler
"I think there's more here. You have to see that God has made creation." - Megan Powell du Toit
"That repetition helps us to grow… it's built into a human. That's how we learn." - Amy Peeler

Resources:
Hope 103.2 - The network carrying "With All Due Respect"
Amy Peeler’s book: Ordinary Time: The Season of Growth - Provides insights into the liturgical calendar's significance

 

This season of With All Due Respect is sponsored by Morling College, a Christ-centred higher-education institution shaped by its Baptist heritage and broad evangelical vision. Morling is committed to rigorous theological study, deep spiritual formation, and learning how to engage faithfully and thoughtfully with difference. Study options include ministry and theology, counselling, chaplaincy, and education. <a href="https://info.morling.edu.au/l/979923/2023-03-26/5967sq">Download a course guide</a> to explore whether Morling is the right place for your next step.
<a href="https://www.morling.edu.au/morling-to-go">Morling to Go</a>&nbsp; is a collection of free, short, video-based courses created by Morling College to support thoughtful Christian learning and formation. Designed for individuals, small groups, and ministry teams, each course includes teaching videos and discussion questions led by respected evangelical scholars and practitioners. Explore each course and find a resource that best fits your context.
About the Guest
The&nbsp;<a href="https://amypeeler.com/">Reverend Dr. Amy Peeler</a> is the Kenneth T. Wessner Chair of Biblical Studies and Professor of New Testament at Wheaton College in Illinois, and serves as a priest at St. Mark&rsquo;s Episcopal Church in Geneva, Illinois. She earned her MDiv and PhD in Biblical Studies from Princeton Theological Seminary and is a New Testament scholar whose work often focuses on Hebrews and the relationship between men and women in Christianity. She has authored several books on Hebrews and most recently wrote &ldquo;Ordinary Time,&rdquo; which explores the meaning of this often overlooked season in the church year
Key Points:
<ul>
<li>Sacred in the Mundane: The ordinary moments in life can hold spiritual significance, challenging the conventional belief that only extraordinary events are divinely touched.</li>
<li>Liturgical Reflection: The Christian liturgical calendar offers a balanced rhythm of ordinary and special times, emphasising continual spiritual growth.</li>
<li>Cultural Dualism: Exploring how religious traditions perceive and often segregate the sacred from the mundane, revealing potential tensions and integrations.</li>
<li>Everyday Miracles: Leveraging routine and structure, such as daily prayers, can help recognise and appreciate God's omnipresence in everyday life.</li>
<li>Ordinary as Extraordinary: The discussion in "Train Dreams" and the insights by Amy Peeler highlight finding fulfillment and divine purpose in ordinary life moments.</li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes:
<ul>
<li>"When you change the nappy of the infant, pray to God the Father for, you know, pray in praise of his work in this small infant." - Michael Jensen</li>
<li>"Ordinary time does help us practice for eternity&hellip; these repeated actions are growing." - Amy Peeler</li>
<li>"God wants to sanctify us, grow and deepen our faith." - Amy Peeler</li>
<li>"I think there's more here. You have to see that God has made creation." - Megan Powell du Toit</li>
<li>"That repetition helps us to grow&hellip; it's built into a human. That's how we learn." - Amy Peeler</li>
</ul>
Resources:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://hope1032.com.au/">Hope 103.2</a> - The network carrying "With All Due Respect"</li>
<li>Amy Peeler&rsquo;s book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Ordinary-Time-Season-Amy-Peeler/dp/1514009684">Ordinary Time: The Season of Growth</a> - Provides insights into the liturgical calendar's significance</li>
</ul>
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Parenting: Stop Trying to Be the Holy Spirit | Collett Smart

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