Jana survives a tricking parenting moment when Jolie's simple question about Whitney Houston leads into a serious talk about drugs and safety.
We dive into how to navigate sensitive topics with older kids, and Kathryn vents about the lost art of debate and discussion without the fear of public backlash.

Are You Gentle Parenting or Conscious Parenting?
26:00

Track and Field and Ballroom with Ezra Frech
26:35

Whine Down: Welcome to The Pitt
37:22