Two Sides of the Same Bed

Published Aug 28, 2023, 4:00 AM

Do you have a "side of the bed"?? Jana and her Queendom talk to a couple that went viral on Tik Tok because they change up their "sides" all the time!! 

It's babymoon time for Jana! Will she take one?? And what does she want as her "push present"?? 

Plus, a figure from Jana's past may emerge on the podcast soon...

Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

On today's podcast, we are going to have the great debate on which side of the bed do you sleep and do you have a regular end this video that went viral on TikTok with this TikTok couple are there?

Hello?

Hello?

Because I really thought you were gonna be in your bedroom when we got on. It's what made you famous. So I'm going to need you guys to take us to where you sleep and lay down and get a try. So, I mean, are you as shocked as kind of? I mean, look when I saw the rundown, I'm like, wait, what what is this? Like what I mean you just were talking about your bed position sleeping.

Yeah, it was definitely shocked. We usually post DIY content. We do DIY renovation and home decor. Very rarely do I ever talk into the camera like that. But we had a conversation with two of our friends. I don't know how it came up, but like sleeping arrangements came up and we mentioned how we don't have a regular side of the bed. We just sort of switched it up and they were so freaked out by that and the reaction was so funny that I thought, oh, I'm just going to post that on TikTok and see what other people say. It's as crazy as ever as our friends said. And I definitely did not expect it to get the response that it.

Did because it does not seem that interesting to us.

But yeah, okay, so walk us through the TikTok like just like kind of describe it for people that haven't seen it and are listening to this and are like, Okay, hang on a second, we need to know what's happening.

Yes, So the TikTok, I'm literally just telling the camera that we don't have a regular side of the bed. Last night, I slept on that side of the bed.

The night before I.

Slept on this side of the bed. It's not something we talk about. We just kind of randomly choose and is just as crazy as everyone thinks it is.

That was it.

It was like a twenty second TikTok and we got like nine thousand comments, and we were on Insider magazine and ABC News and we got like hundreds of stitches and some of those stitches got millions of views. So yeah, I just kind of exploded from a very simple fact.

That's what's so interesting about TikTok because I feel like some videos are like low and then the next they're like, you know, million million views, and I'm like, the algorithm makes no sense to me, nor like even the topics of certain things, because I you know, I'm sure you would have expected something else to probably get higher likes or whatever. And then but I feel like people, well, I don't know. I mean, I don't really it's not really a thing. I mean, it's just kind of like, that's your side, and that's your side. So I call it the murder side and the non murder side of the bed.

So the closest to the.

Door is the murder side. So I'm like, if anyone ever never said that, you're going to go first, and so I make my husband sleep on the murder side. Oh the door.

There were so many comments about that.

We never even thought about, like if if there was an intruder, who's going to get attacked for it didn't cross our minds.

But it should be.

You, Skylert, should be you.

But here's the question.

Our bed is the door is right here and on the other side is a window.

So I don't know, Well, that's the robber side, not the murder side.

Okay, so that makes sense.

While they get a little and feels like you get a little more of a heads up, you know, so I like the robbers. You can hear I can hear the window.

Oh got it right? So wait, so y'all don't even talk about it, Like so whoever goes to bed first just kind of decides where they want to sleep and then the other person goes on the other side, or do you go to bed at the same time, and it's just like, see what happens.

You got a bed at the same time, and whoever gets in versus who dictates what side of the bed they're sleeping on. And I don't think we've ever discussed it. It's just always been this, I guess, quirky habit we've had.

I think a couple of times, like sometimes I, let's say I'm on one side of the bed for a couple of days or a week, which is a lot, and then all of a sudden I switched.

Skyler will be like, oh, like, not that side anymore.

Like occasionally we'll bring it up if like we've fallen into a certain pattern, but it's just I mean, we've been together for ten years.

This is so regular. It's not something that we.

You guys, we've been on the road for like a year, and we have our sides in the bed and we have our sleeping arrangements and we turn into a hotel room. We know who's sleeping with you on what side?

What about like your bedside tables, like your stuff on your bedside table.

We don't have stuff.

Okay, well, okay.

The same phone chargers was another thing that people talked about. We have like the same phone charger, and like we have stuff in our nightstand drawers.

But we don't access it nightly.

Like all of our skincare stuff, all of our bedtime routine stuff is in like the bathroom and our vanity, Like we don't do anything in bed to get ready, because that was another big comment that people.

We don't do that any there. But like, so then you're not fighting over chargers. It's kind of nice. We're always like who.

Took my ar? It's like the bed equivalent of a whiteboard. You're just like, see what we do here every single night.

But if you so, obviously you have your side of the bed Christian, Yeah, Janna.

Obviously there you go.

But when you go to like a hotel, do you ever switch it up? Or do you stay with the same side of the bed when you go to a hotel or some or sleep somewhere different.

I stay on the same what do you non murder?

Oh my god? You okay, we will we will switch it up in like a like a different place, not even not even thinking about it.

It's content the layout of the room, like.

If there's a like not that's her, not me. I have never thought of a murder side. I just if I'm in a hotel, it's different. So I'll sometimes just pick the other side of the bed on.

Murder side though that's the well. In the old house, I was on non murder side, but it wasn't the right side of the bed. But now right side of the bed here at the rental and the new house will be by the door, so I'll be on murder side. Well, I give you. I vote you most likely to handle anybody, Especially when I heard a noise and I was like, get up, get up, and I was like grab the gun, and I think he was so uncomfortable, like holding the gun down. I'll take care of this. I was like, Michigan's side really sneaks out. Yeah, I was like, give me the gun. Do you guys have animals? Do they play into this? What do we have? What name all the heartbeats that exist in the bed nightly? So I know the players and pieces we're working with here, all.

Right, I'm Angelena. This is Skyler, our cats. Could actually see them in the background. That's Blue and Bree, and Blue usually likes to sleep next to me and Bree likes to sleep next to Skyler, so they sort of switch with us.

You switch side.

I know they're like, what's going on?

Our habitat is rocked funny?

They're probably so confused. So okay, so you do DIY stuff. What is what is one of your favorite DIY things that you like to do?

That's a great question.

I mean I think some of my uh, some of the content that's done the best and that we.

Like showing is just our whole house renovation.

We bought our house in twenty twenty and it's the nineteen fifties house and was a big fixer upper, so and.

We renovated it all just the two of us.

So we sort of documented that whole journey of doing everything rehaving the floors, knocking down walls, and then the decoorse stuff came later, which is also fun, like painting and wallpaper and all that type of fun stuff. So I just I love showing the transformation, the big transformations, but we also do the small transformations too.

Were you, guys di Wires before you bought this house? Like did you? Are you savvy and knowing what you're doing? Because we could buy anything and we would have no clue.

I build houses for a living, so for me.

Okay, it's work.

Yeah, I hate it's work, and I'm like clumsy, not knowledgeable, not crafty at all. So together he was sort of the expert teaching me how to do things, and then I learned as we went along. But yeah, this was all totally new to me, not my well love expertise whatsoever.

That's why Skyler's face was a little like frozen. When you're like it's so fun, He's like, is it now? Is it?

Well?

Because you build houses, is there one thing? So I'm moving into a new house that I built in a couple of weeks, is there one thing that I'm like I should have? Well, I probably I'm like, what should I have? Done better with But like, is there anything that like I need to look out for with the building, even though I mean this is not my second build, but like, is there something where I should like check to make sure before I head into the house.

If it's all new, you you should be good. I mean, it's all just standard.

Maintenance from that point, cool air filters in the air conditioner and you know, flush out the water heater every couple of years. But it's just I mean, if it's all new stuff, then you should be good.

Guys, I haven't flushed anything in two years. Water the air filters are always I always find it.

It depends where you live to Like, our water is very hard, so there's a lot of calcium deposits stuff like lines.

Apparently ours is.

I think ours is too. I don't know that we've done that either, but I know that's on my list. Actually. Yeah, so like thoughts of the next TikTok that's going to be so random and go viral again, Like you'll have any ideas any Like.

We were like thoroughly discussing like what other weird habits?

Yeah, like what else is weird about y'all?

But I mean we're very normal people.

So we didn't think this was that weird. So maybe we're not normal, So maybe you're not.

Maybe there's not normal. That's not normal. I need to say it. You've been reiterated by thousands and millions, But.

Did you have anyone say that they do that as well, like anybody.

Yes, we've had comments. I think like one percent. There are.

There are people, especially as big as it gets, there are more people commenting like, oh, that's us too. But the vast, vast majority are people calling us serial killers.

There is something wrong with you guys.

But I'm the one that has a murder side. Do you have places that you watch TV, like when you sit down at the couch? Is that a free for all too? I mean, I just feel like your whole life's real willy nilly At this point I need to know like, yeah.

That's a free for all.

It's all yeah, Like we don't have a spot at the kitchen table, we don't have a spot on the couch. Sometimes when we're watching TV, you know, because there's a chase part and then there's like the couch part. Like in the middle of watching something, we'll look at each other and we'll be like, let's switch, you know, because there's like there's depending on where you are in the couch. You know, my shoulder might start hurting on this side, so I need to.

If I tried to take the chase part of our couch, I might there might be a divorce attorney involved, like I have, I've married a creature. We like he has a habitat you know, yeah, not us. Well, congrats on the TikTok and I hope that you know, it's it's a good promotion to for everything else you guys got going on. So that's awesome, and we will now follow along where can our listeners fall along to see if there's any more weird things that pop up.

Yes, on TikTok and YouTube, we are renovating our home and then on Instagram we're underscore renovating our home.

Cool, awesome, Well, thank you so much for coming on. Bye, Sweet Dreams. You know what I was thinking about when they were talking about it was like and not that Like I mean, Alan is a very cleanly person, like he showers all the time, but like it's just I want to lay in like their spot, I don't know, and again it's like I lay on top of them or like we like do all the things, but like I wouldn't want to, like it's like.

Yeah, it's like they're spot and they're like, yeah, I wouldn't either.

I don't know. Yeah I would do that level unless you're like changing the sheets every day for some reason that that.

Don't even like to take his pillows, Like sometimes our pillows will get mixed up and I'm like, no, no, no, that's your pillows.

Because I have It's like I don't know. It's like a still yeah, and there's like a smell still not that, not again, not that, but because he doesn't he always smells great, but still still and I like my outside but yeah, they say that. I can't remember what it was. But there was something about like how your skin sheds and you actually should wash your sheets more than what the two weeks. Okay, that would be my question. How often are you guys changing sheet? Well, not as often as same.

I should, probably not as often as I should.

Either it goes by fast.

Yeah, I feel like it.

That's what happens with the air filters too. Unless I have like the maid coming every two weeks, then I'll leave the sheets out. But sometimes I'm like, oh shoot, because they don't wash the sheets. They're just like leave them on the bed. But if I forget and I don't have an extra set, and I'm like, oh, it's fine, just leave it, and then it's like a month. So I'm sure this will shock you. But I don't like the way people make my bed. No shock, no shock. So I have to make my bed.

So you have cleaners come and tell them not to make.

Your bed yep, I literally say, don't touch the master bed. Here's my problem though, which I will agree, which drives me crazy is if I end up using if I end up using cleaners again, which I most will, but they never make the bed the same each time. And I want to take a picture and be like please because I have to now go back take off the sheets because they use the wrong sheet, like what's supposed to be like my duvet cover. They use it as like the bench cover, and I'm like, no, it's not the right sheet. Like listen, I don't my own husbands, their own interior designers.

Yeah, just like yeah, no does too.

Plus we have like very definitive sides, like I have a shocking again, a weighted blanket franksiity on my side, and I'm always like in a snowsuit with seven layers of comforters, and his side is like fan in the face.

That's our room.

Yeah.

So it's a little like we even have like different blankets sometimes because if I have my big thick one on because we change them a lot are comforters, then he'll like literally push my thick one over and just get a thin one for him. And then if the cleaners come, it'll be like thick one and thin one and like all of them because they don't know.

Yeah, and then I'm tired and pissy. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, this just doesn't go here. I know, hashtags, I mean that doesn't bother. Listen. I've been trying to so I have asked for help, right, Oh good. Remember when I had a mental breakdown last week, I got a lot of support online. Oh good, I g FAM really supported me. I had a vulnerability hangover bad. After that, I was like, I cried, why am I you know?

Oh you're good.

So I have gotten cleaner's back.

Good.

Yeah, I'm excited.

Does that help you or stress you out?

More?

Though?

So far, I think I'm just at a point where, like I have realized I'm only one human, so like, any help is great good and I have a great cleaner. Got it from Sarah Bryce. Actually, oh no, no, anybody I ever give her she has a problem with right, But then any person she ever gives me ends up being a problem like that. She ends up like oh I ended up not liking this, or I ended like, oh, I know, because she gave me a woman, I have to say a different name, right, can I should I not use your name? Different name Judy, Judy Judy. Sorry, she's great, but the kids you're gonna, oh, for babysitting or cleaning, So no, for like babysitting, she's like a grandmother.

You're gonna love Judy.

Let her in, she's gonna be awesome. And then I literally am like opening the door for Judy, and I get a text from Sarah don't let Judy. Hey, by the way, I meant to tell you, Judy is a no go. I'm like, well she did that to me too, standing in front of me, so we're gonna have to She gave.

Us a babysitter, and I used her for a long time and she was like, oh yeah, I didn't like her, Babby.

No, Okay, I'm changing names. I don't know because you're changing sure, Babby, and had like the whole summer thing planned out and then she canceled, like a day before school got out, that she couldn't watch the kids over summer, and like I had planned it with for like mikes weeks two, like to help out Simon or not very unreliable.

Well, the one I used was very reliable. I loved her. But then Sarah came back and was like, yeah, no, and I was like, oh, I love her. I've been using her.

Did her name ryme with Mary?

No?

Because that was another one that's hair game. And I just need to go on record for saying that I teed her and I up with the tutor that I thought might be helpful for the kids this summer because I was like, I was super pregnant, brand new baby, maybe like just a couple hours a week with this teacher, and the teacher ended up bailing on both Sara and I after talking from February to May about the plans. So we're one for one there. Well, Sarah had called me the other day and she's like, hey, so, what's your hair girl's name? I go, Nope, I won't do it to the hair girl.

I'm not going to do it to me.

I was like, I love you, but nope, because anybody that I've ever sent her, she's like, well I don't like this. I'm like, that's fine. The problem is I don't like doing but she can do her own hair, I know. But then she always complains about her I know. But since she knows what she's doing, she's extra. Yeah, but like the flashes that like I gave her my my last cleaning lady and like she was my clean lay is awesome. I think she's so good she's yeah, and so they just never mind. I won't say that it's mean, but well no, I just like every time I have to record, that's when they want to like really loudly talk, and it's hard because I'm like working from home too, right right, you know what I mean. So then they don't understand what I'm saying.

Can you?

Yeah, I don't.

No, No, you will cut that. I'm just saying, they're very loud. Anyways, we're gonna cut that. Okay, so cutting that is. But no, but anytime like I gave her like my cleaning lady, she like there was like, oh, she didn't wash the inside of the top corner of the my and I'm just like, they might have missed that spot. That's way back to Sarah. And I read that, I was just like, no more. And then her people, I'm like, no, I'm good. Well, if I ever mean to them or like ever say anything negative about anybody that knows my address, I think that's like a good rule with them, like you know where I live. So I'm just always like, great job today and I just reschedule. Yeah, yeah, but but no. Good Old Sarah Bryce got a lover. She's literally the most unintentionally funny person I've ever met. She's great, She's so good anything something's really important. When she's calling you at seven in the morning while I'm getting the kids all ready for school and I'm like, hey, I call it seven's with Sarah, I wonder and I'm like, oh Jesus, she or the life. No. When she goes call me and I'm like thinking, oh God, something like really happened. And then she's like, when did I lose our passport? Again? I was like, your passport and it was is that what?

Yes?

Yes, thinking she said nine one she did.

She was freaking out and then it was like, hey, do you remember when I was like, oh lord.

Sarah, I thought someone died, Like anyways, well this just became I don't even know what happened. Take a break and then we'll come back on with something else. All right, Kabi, what do you got? Oh? Laughing, not crying. That's refreshing.

Hu.

I surprised my husband. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, okay, with a what guys, this is actually kind of awesome. So I surprised my husband with a staycation in Franklin because it was fifteen minutes down the road from the new baby. I just teed us up really wisely. At home, we have had a night do look come for the baby, so I could feel extra reassured there. I had Miss Ashton with the kids, and she's nice and OCD and great and so I loved that. And I brought his best friend from home down as a surprise. So his best friend and his wife came and they met us at dinner and it was just nice because they're not industry, and it's he doesn't with travel get to see his people enough, and that's kind of like how he plugs back in and he doesn't have to be on because they're just as homies, you know. Can I just say little caveat? Yeah, you always say that you want to just be with like you and him. You don't get you and him time. So was introduced or to having that friend come in? Was that like was this for him? Yeah?

Got it?

Just for him, just for him?

Got it? Got it, got it.

I was gonna just do the night us and I. That was great, but I just know a little nice thing for him.

Yeah, like it.

It's also kind of like sneaky for me though, because I was getting a hotel and my kids, like I didn't have to wake up and we were gonna have breakfast in bed. So yeah, So the next morning we get up, it's like six thirty and he's waking me up and he's like, we we should probably get on we should get out of here and head home. And I'm I get six thirty. I've never seen this man up before six thirty unless he has a flight, you know. So I say okay, and I'm trying not to take it personal, but the story I'm telling myself is like I guess, like just not attractive. We don't want to do anything this morning, like, I'm confused because we don't have kids, and I'm in your oversize. Sure, and that's it, you.

Know, m hmm.

Okay. So he's like, baby, let's just get some coffee. And it keeps going, Baby, you look real hot. Let's go get some coffee. And I'm like, but if I look hot, then get over here, you know, because you're cleared. Yes, yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes for four weeks.

Okay.

It was the same week his parents came to visit. Okay, okay. So anyways, he's moving me along and I can't quite figure out why he's moving me along. I'm trying not to take it personal, almost like okay, whatever. So we go downstairs, say hi to the friends, grab coffee, and he's kind of rushing me, and he goes, I have to tell you something. Belly sinks, right, because I'm always just waiting for the worst. He said, you surprised me, but I was actually surprising you. So we have a flight out this morning, and the reason I'm rushing new is because we really have to be on our way to Bna by like nine point thirty at the latest, and we still have to get back home so that you can grab a change of clothes, and I said, can I know where we're going? And he said, you can't. Ah, I know. So next thing I know, I'm landing in Detroit to see the Cubs play Detroit time yours. This is Michael Caprera's last season, and I wanted to get to the game.

That's amazing.

Rose up from home plate and we got to date and drink beer and eat nachos, and he rooted for the Cubs and I rooted for the do That was so cute. It was really wonderful. Ah, I don't know.

I love that.

So his manager, our doula, the babysitter, all calling at the Friend's episode, the one with the double surprise, because everyone was bending, that's amazing, that's so creat When did you come When did you come back? Yesterday morning? So you were gone for how many nights? Two nights total in Detroit? No one night? Okay, Yeah, he knew his limits, and he actually panicked because he thought, that's two nights away from the baby. She's not going to do that. And everyone was going, I didn't know if I should tell you.

I'm glad that you can do it.

That's good. I did it. It took a beer, but I did it.

Into a hotel for me for our like one year back together or whatever. Yeah, but I woke up that morning feeling like death, and I slept pretty much the entire time in the hotel day and night.

I kept I'd wake up, but I'd go.

I'm really sorry, babe, I'm really sorry. It's like, it's fine, honey, I just went back to sleep.

He as fine, as he's writing in his diary. Oh what did he do when you were sleeping?

He literally watched I fell asleep, but I mean we would like watch something, and then I mean we got dinner and ate in the room. We were going to go to dinner, but he just he walked and got dinner and brought it back, and then he was watching a football game and then like went to bed early. I woke up at like nine thirty. He's like, all right, well, I'm gonna go to bed, and I was like, no, I'm up. But I only stayed up for like an hour, Like I was so tired. I just did not feel good and I felt we got massages. We did also get massage, okay, so it was great. It was just funny. I felt terrible I was like, I'm so sorry, but it was also just nice to sleep.

I know, there's a lot that hinges when you do like a one night it feels a little like pressure too.

Yeah, you know that. He was great about it. Because I kept saying I'm so sorry. He was like, it's totally fine. I mean, it was fine. It was nice.

Alan and I have never done a vacation together. That's sad. It's okay, We're going to get there. No we haven't.

We'll get there.

Yeah. We were thinking about doing a baby moon in October, but there's just so much going on that I'm like, I don't even know if I have time. Yeah, it's tricky. It's just a tricky time of year. Yeah, I know. So we'll figure it out. But I would like, you can make it work. You did a baby moon, and I'll be honest, I kind of want a refund. It was great, but like I was so sick.

Mm hmm.

I know, and it was amazing, but I just kept thinking, gosh, I would have we should like I wanted to have.

Born moon.

Yeah, I'm going to be full steam ahead, like work, you know, like wanting to work and travel to like, yeah, pay for three kids.

Like just warning, let's go.

But no, I think there's a piece of me too that has a little bit of like a negative taste of the baby moon because I know the stuff that happened with my like ex like right before, like when we had discovery. One of the things he told me happened a week before that our baby moon in la which I thought was like the most magical trip we had and we were in like we went to the montage in Laguna Beach and I'm like, wait, a week before you were X, Y and Z, Like I just I don't know it like kind of like tainted then, like that baby moon was like the biggest like even though they say, like you know to hold like what was happening in the moment was real, but it still like taints it a little bit. Yeah that's you know.

Yeah, so do you want like a do over?

Well, And then like for Jase, we didn't really do one, Like it was like a let's not because I was so scorned by the like baby moon name that I was like, let's not call it it. But we went to like a pool and right, I'd like, but we didn't like travel or vacation for it. So a piece of me is like, do I want to do over or like I never had a baby moon before this one, and this one was kind of a honeymoon baby moon. It was our first trip ever just the two of us, and we've been together eight years. Yeah, well, and I never had honeymoon either, shockingly, so so of all the so I feel like, maybe we don't even have to call it. I wouldn't have even called ours a baby moon, but the resort did when they found out.

Remember if I had, I don't even remember. I'm sure we traveled, but I never like made it like this big thing. I don't think.

You know, did you guys ever see a thing with Kelly Clarkson in the Push Present? How people were like, oh, you know, she was like, I never got a push present. I should have known that she was joking. People were started to be mean, being like, you know, you being like thinking that she was being what's the word? Yeah, she said she never got one, yes, yeah, And then she's like, I should have known when I never got a push present, like basically, but that people were saying like that she was being what.

Is the word feels no, it feels.

Disingenuous now it's at that game a word, what's that game like?

Not reading the room like I got to know it?

Like I love her too, But I felt.

That way a little bit when I read it, really like.

That she was being what's the word like pretent No, not pretentious.

It's like there's plenty of people that don't get pushed present like she wanted to diamond and be like okay, like really you're married. But again, I love her not trying to talk whatever. And I don't think that that was necessarily her intention, but it did feel very like not pretentious, but something like that. You know, it just felt very like, Okay, plenty people don't get push presents like that. Shouldn't be mean that your marriage was doomed because you didn't get right.

And I think she was joking when she said it.

Yeah, I think she.

Was having said that. I would say, and this is actually very interesting for you to say this because you're a gift girl. I am so you like gifts, like gifts is your love language. Absolutely so, And I'm not a gift girl. But for carrying your child for nine months, I want a gift.

I want a little and I'm not saying I want I'm.

Confused the bush presents the human.

Yeah, see, I don't know, I the.

Gift of life. Can I get us back on track?

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't think i'd be mad about I don't remember if I get.

Mad, But I think I would like it to be like here's the nine months even hurled over a toilet and like feeling sick and not being able to eat hardly anything, and like you know what I mean, and just like a nice pretty little maybe like a little ring with like the birth speaking, like the birthstones of all three kids. That would be really cute. Okay, okay, are you going to text it's for everyone? But I'm just saying it's not like something that. Again, I wouldn't be upset. I think it's just a nice gesture. Oh yeah, no, I won't be mad. I'm not going to say our marriage or is going to be doomed because he doesn't give me a busch present. I'm just saying it's I think it's a nice gesture. I agree, gesture gesture.

I agree. I think my was just saying. When I read her saying it, I was kind of like, oh, I don't.

Think I would have said that but as a gift girl, why do you not want that?

I didn't say don't want it? I said I didn't. I said I felt that way when she said that.

But you don't care. You wouldn't care about anyone because you haven't, right all I have?

Oh yeah, I'm trying to remember, honestly. No, that's the thing. I know. I can't remember if I got it. What's the third? Honestly, ca, which is terrible. It was probably something so great, and I just can't think about it right now. I just I am a gift person. I just that one. I don't know wouldn't bother me that much for it.

Because you're distracted by the immense amounts of healing that you're doing that you're not thinking about.

I don't even remember. But honestly, I probably put him through so much craft when I was pregnant that, like, really, I was so sick and probably made him do everything, and did I probably made him do everything?

Were you ever snippy?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Okay, were you? Were you because hormones and pregnant?

Right? Well?

Sure, yes.

Said this to be pregnant woman over.

Here, Yes we do, Janna, Well, we all snippy. I was very spicy this pregnancy. Yes, you were to you. I'm always nice to you.

What did I say?

Was I snippy somewhere in saying but like you were snippy with breast?

Look at me, you guys?

Kind of so like to ask her if she was.

Like, okay, let me rephrase.

Okay, you know some women are like truly miserable pregnant.

You know, well, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna point both.

Y'all out, but you know how y'all Okay.

So I didn't get to see you pregnant ever, and I wondered if you were like I.

Would take me as someone that would be like I was not necessarily as snippy as I was, just like sick and miserable and made him do everything. Okay, And I'm really thinking back to my last one the most, obviously. So we had two kids, and I was like, take these children away from me while I sleep.

Like, you know, the joke is always about pregnant women, like we're so hormonal and we rage out and all these things.

I don't think I was a rager, No, I just felt really really bad. Yeah, And so I felt for him because it's like that was a lot on his plate, especially if you're having a third I mean that's a lot. Yeah, but I probably got a push present. I just don't remember. Sorry, I'll i'll ask him later. I don't remember the third one.

Probably helped him get it for you, probably, Yeah, can you get through your text chain? What did you get? I got this Tiffany bracelet with three little diamonds for three little babies. Oh see, that's cute, sweet and like delicate. But you would have been fine just having the gift of line. Yeah, I never got I didn't get push presents. I was so excited. I'm like, this is what they look like. H Yeah. I don't think Allen knows it there and he doesn't listen to this podcast. So can we talk about Scottish verse versus American on Instagram? Sure? Because I'm a host. And then somebody sent me and crossed gream and I'm so sorry that there's a sentence that literally Scottish people cannot say the purpurple Oh he can, he can.

We did it.

We did it on my TikTok. Is it purple purple burglar alarm? And he can do it, he can. It's just the way they say burglar is funny. Oh, like it's I can pull it up. I'm gonna pull it up on my TikTok. But no burger burger burg But yeah, no, it's just it's it's how they say, like the actual Oh sorry, let me see here.

That said.

Scottish people can't say purple burglar alarm. I'm going to go test it on the boyfriend. Okay, say that four times fast, as fast as you can four times.

Purple bug let alone, purple bugle it alone alone alone.

You did it better than I could do.

Yeah. I couldn't say anything four times fast though. Yeah, okay, but no, that was funny. I got a good laugh. Swimming costume, That's what it was. Swimming cost the first time he said that because I had heard that one obviously before. I see that's like, are you gonna bring your swimming costume? And I'm like what He's like, you're swimming costume? And I'm like, explained, because a costume to me is when you dress up in Halloween. So what does he think Halloween is?

Like?

Does is there are those? Just I've never asked. We need to know because it's on your list. It's a bathing suit or a swim suit. Yeah, yeah, a swimming costume like that was like as if I'm going to be Michael Phelps for Halloween. Yeah, it was interesting. I really enjoy that. Yeah, it was fun. It was all good. Yeah, we're gonna do maybe a few more of those because they were fun. I love you, But I guess that's it. Yeah, I'm good. You know, just breathing over there, just breathing. Is he kicking? He's kicking. Oh, he's a soccer player. Gousie's a soccer player. So girls, are you gonna say something bad to us? No? I do have a question. I don't like the look in her eyes. Cat So So I had a conversation with someone about coming on the podcast. Oh no, and it wouldn't be until October, But would you guys want to be on the podcast when this person comes on the podcast? I was thinking of doing a like part series with it, because obviously my book is coming out in October, and he has not really shared his side of things, and I think when one side comes out, it's important to hear the other and then also to maybe, you know, talk about how we've been able to move on co parenting, what he's up to things like that, and I was thinking about it, and because we had the conversation the other day when he was driving me back from some things I needed to ride with the kids, and he brought it up and we just discussed it and I said, OK, right, let me just kind of like wrap my mind around this. I was like, well, I think Mark would for sure want to be on and we can maybe have that as like a thing where like I ask listeners if they have any questions or if they want to know something, and Mark can kind of ask those questions and then we can do like a Thursday episode of like co parenting, and then another one would be with you guys. But if you're not comfortable, I wouldn't put you on the spot. Then I'm putting you on the spot now because I want to know so I can just like because it's a lot to like process and plan in my brain too, I feel that myself. What undecided?

What did he say? Does he know that there's an option of having well aka me in the room? I don't know if you.

Take it, I'll just say he took a really big deep breath.

Yeah, I don't think he'd want me in a room.

With him, so does he want But he didn't say, no, huh, what do you want me in a room? Well, I said, well, hey, like obviously I do my podcast with Kristen and Catherine, so like, you know, maybe like the first one it's just like Mark and you and I, and then the part two is with the girls, and then the third is like you and I again and with just like co parenting and like you know what he's doing now and you know, support whatever he's kind of going, you know what he's doing. And again it's like it's something that I know I'm bringing. I'm going to talk to my therapy therapist about it because it is still like there's still so many, so many layers too to it. So it's like to but yeah. But then when I was like, well, and you know Kristen and Catherine, it could be in the episode two, and he just went so he didn't say yes or no, and which then to me goes, okay, well let me lego. Let me just kind of wrap my mind around this because I think it's I see like the pros and cons, and I see I also think too, you know. He this was also his podcast too, and so people listened and maybe they want to also have or hear sure something from him, you know, or like a because I don't think it's let's take anybody that misses Mike. Raise your hand now, just saying so, I just would you guys be comfortable or do you need time to think about it? Because you said you need I would say I need a minute, okay, I would like to. I mean I have seen him one time since then, I haven't seen him as often as probably you have, Kat, I just need I would say I need a minute. I feel fully like there is a place that you guys exist in my brain that I feel really good about. That I kind of always saw in YouTube. Do you remember me saying to you like, I always thought you guys would be really good friends or better friends than a couple. So there's a part of me that sees him that way. But then there's just a part of me that makes me want to cry a little bit, like just witnessing a lot of hurt for someone that I really love a lot. So that's hard for me.

I would do it. I just don't think he would sit down with me, And I think that's also hurtful and hard for me because I know how much he hates me, and that's I know it's not about me, but that also there is something there for me.

Also, why do you think and like, I mean, I would want to listen to that podcast because I'm sure there's many people in that situation where like, and I don't want to put you in a situation where you're not comfortable, which is why I'm asking ahead of time. Yeah, but like if you're not comfortable and you're like, I mean, like, I would never put you in that situation. Absolutely having said that, as like a listener, I'm sure there's many times where friends are like would want to hear the like friendship of the person because you were also you guys were all also hurt in that situation and for you to say, well, he hates me, I don't. Again, it's like it was his own hatred. I believe that, like it was never like, why do you think he hates you?

I just I think that there's a lot of blame he puts on me. I don't know. I think it's again, it's not about me. But the times that I've seen him, I see it in his eyes. He won't speak to me. I've kept his child he won't bring her to me. I mean, there's a lot of reasons. There's been a lot of I would love to bury the hatchet with him. I would love to be able to see him. I would love to be able to tell him the things that like, you know, we were friends too, you know, and he you know, it's just that got ripped away so fast, which is fine. I think we always side with our friends. And it was hard, like you said, to see her, but like there's probably just hurt on both sides obviously, But I would I would welcome that conversation. I just don't know that he would.

Do you think that he wouldn't because of the ownership it would take for him to sit down with you, because I don't know, I don't. Do you think he would hate her? Listen, I mean Catherine was always the one, and I you know, I wrote this even in the book, like you told me to leave many times that I would be like, but I never did, you know what I mean? So he can't hate you for something that like a never hap you know what I mean? And only he can't. I think it's just again his own actions because he can't look you in the eye knowing all the things that you know that no one will ever know true, you know, Yeah, that's hard. I think it's his shame that he can't work you in the eyes. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

Yeah, and probably I know that there's you know, yes that like.

I'm saying, it might feel good for to him to have you say.

And there was there's things that I mean, I could I've got things I would love to say to him. I mean I think about it often actually, so I mean, I'm.

That's where I'm at.

So I don't know what would you say or what's one thing that like what like, what do you want to say to him?

I cared about him too, and so that doesn't just go away. I think that you can care for someone and then make the worst actions in the world, But that doesn't make you, know a care, you know, caring about someone to go away, and that at the end of the day, I in my mind, I wasn't just looking out for you, I was also trying to look out for him. I felt like y'all were toxic together, and that what was so frustrating because it became so us against him, and I just want to explain to him that it truly wasn't just this I hate Mike. It was not It was y'all have to get out of this. Y'all are not healthy, and I just don't I understand why you wouldn't see it that way, but I would love to be able to explain that to him, because he wasn't happy either, you know. So it's like, again, I did care about him, It wasn't just like you know, so I don't know.

Well, it wouldn't be until like October, so yeah, you have some time to think about it. But I'm also like when he mentioned it, it was like, Okay, I kind of need time to like process because what I don't want to happen is get him on and like drudge up, Like I don't want a whole episode of like because I'm like we're past that, but there are still things that like need to like be flushed out and then also you know, but not like stay in that.

You know.

It's like, let's ask the questions I want. So it's like I want to be very like mindful of if there are any questions from the past, I do want to ask that I don't know yet, you know. So it's like I need time with that to like process and then them like does that even matter? And like do I want to put that really out? So it's like I just need to like process that side too. I do think I do think this is a healthy enough, mature enough like you and I are healthy enough, mature enough to like lead it to a good place. I think we've always seen what could be good about him and defended him or played Devil's advocate in times not defended. Sure, So I don't think it for me, it's not like this like flipping tables moment and that's what I'm afraid of. It's just I just I don't know. I'm like, I'm careful with my words even here. Well, I think that's why, like you have to think about what you'd really wan want to ask, because again I don't want to spend time in the past because I don't think I have any questions about that.

I think it really should just be if there's something that.

Like I have one in the book when I was doing the audio and I'm like, I was like, man, I always kind of want to know that, you know, And I'm just wondering, can I think it's something that a lot of divorced women might also still wonder about like their X. So it's something that I'm like, I'm but I'm like, I don't know, I got it. So it's like I got to sit with these things. So it's like, find what you would want to ask if that opportunity comes up.

And does he have stuff in mind that he wants to say or ask? Do you think maybe yeah?

I think for him, I think he just wants you know, again, And with the book coming out, it's like I don't want it to be about him. Yes, there are stories about him, but I also think, you know, he has a right to not be defined by certain headline and stuff like that. So I think it's just creating again growth instead of like just turning, you know, letting the publications take certain excerpts from the book and then turn it into something that it's like this is actually where it's at and like, yes, that was a story from a while ago, but you know, and turning that into a more positive spin. And also, you know how we've been able to and not well at you know, not well at times a couple of weeks ago, it's just like, yes, I just got triggered from our past because you said this, and it's like it's that's a that's a full time job too, like taking emotions from past triggers with us and co parenting the kids and not letting those come up. It's hard. So I think how we've you know, talking about how we've been able to manage that still young and new at it. I'm hoping ten years from now it's even light years better, but hopefully that could be good. And then you know, he's he's starting, you know, he has a business and he's you know, I think I will always promote people, especially the you know, father of my children that may need help to you know, grow his business. So it's like I look at it as a way where it's growth on all angles. I think it's mature and wonderful to have the conversation I think it is when you say it used to you know, he used to this used to be his podcast too. I think all of that makes a lot of sense. I really do. I think it shows the maturity. I I think it's great, just not sure what I I'm just not sure.

Where I would be.

All right, Well, there's time to think about it. But without being wildly like I get really like, you don't, yeah, mess with my friend, So I don't and I know he's not. Yeah, well there's nothing he can do now, you know. Now it's like that's the.

But he did.

So that's hard for me still because well, again, I think it shows like how people can like there's so many people that can relate to the situation and like and I do think he can be changed. I think he can grow. I think it could be two guys. I was married before, we were not we Some people are just not good for each other or bring out the best in each other. It's like chemical or whatever. That I get it. So we'll take a beat on that. I'm going to see what the wind down listeners also want to, because again, this is something that they're you know, this is this is for you know all, it's all likes see how we all feel. Okay, let us check everybody's temperature with that, so you guys later, he

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