Pour Some Whine: Ask Jana Anything

Published Mar 20, 2023, 4:00 AM

It's time for a round of "Ask Jana Anything"! 

She's ready to clear up ANY question you have. Find out if "once a cheater always a cheater", and what her future holds with her new boyfriend!

Will Jana ever move to the UK?? Secrets are revealed as Jana answers your questions!

Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. I get so nervous on these episodes because Catherine is just over there, like I'm so excited, I'm so excited. I just don't like, we were supposed to have a guest today. Well, actually we should tease it because I think it's we No, we honestly should. So there was we were I was at your daughter's birthday party with my daughter. I was actually waiting to pick up Alan, and you just decided to hang out. Well because I had a baby stare something guy, I don't know how to do. It's like flight gut. It's like gut, like he missed his one connecting flight or whatever. And then you know when you just don't know, like when you because you always have something to do right and then you don't. I'm like, I guess I could go back and relieve the sitter and then just like have him to take an uber, But I'm like this, like what do I do? Instead? You hung out with like eight kids, the one at your house, but I know, but I led them through meditation that lasted one minute. Pretty impressive, A few seconds maybe, Uh that was fun though, but it was really cute because I took a little video of you and Nick and then I put the was at Whitney Houston. Yeah, And it's it's interesting because I don't, you know, I don't think people come to my stories all the time, right, So it's like I might get people that watch them every day, and then some people that just casually come in and watch them, or then maybe some that just like watch them. I don't know once a month, because I swear it'll be like I post or in New York for wine Down New York, New York, New York, and then like the next day you were in New York. I'm like, right, But also I'm like, okay, like you're obviously people you know don't aren't on their point whatever. Fine, But with you, it's interesting too because you said last year when which was when last gosh it would have been was it last summer? It would have been May is when we sat down, okay, so that you were gonna get a divorce. And then now you're not getting divorced. And so you said that talked about it, you know, about all that stuff, and then now people like I thought she was divorced and divorce is that her boyfriend and like her boyfriend, that's amazing. So and then like one the other night was like, wow, she moved fast, and I was like, like, this is her husband, y'all. So also if it was a new guy that was May, that was almost a year ago. Listen, I'm just saying it could be three years and someone's gonna say he moved too fast. Um. Oh that's so fun. I know. Like they said, you've had so many boyfriends. I'm like, I've too. Oh my gosh, have you heard of dating? Right? So it's just and then the people that have been invested I got. I mean truly my dams were blowing up that night, just going like I'm so proud of them. And then there's a few like are they I thought they were divorced? Or who's the boyfriend? Um? But then the other ones were like I would love to hear both of them talk about their story, what they've been through and how like some of the things that they noticed maybe the start of the pull away or or then even how you guys came back together. And so I first asked Nick, because I mean, you guys have been on the podcast together, have we Yeah, became the studio in Nashville. Oh yeah, me and Mike. Wow, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, so you guys have like you guys have been on before, but this is obviously a more personal topic. And so I had said, like, hey, and Nick is like very much like me where a world just kind of talk to anybody. But having said that, like this is a very personal, you know, situation and what you guys have gone through, I said, but there's a lot of people that really truly want to know, and I think it'd be really helpful for people, So like would you feel comfortable, you know, And we kind of just like talked around it, and then I was like, all right, I'm gonna tell next okay, which is funny because he kind of texted me on the side when he said that text he was like how do you feel of thoughts or how do you feel about this or something? And I was like, yeah, let's go. I was like, I'll talk about all of it, and he was like wait what he didn't expect me to. Well, it's so cool too, because like you've been like through the process to like opening up and I think you see how it truly and going out on the Windown shows like how people do relate to you and connect to you, and so yeah, and I've had a lot of people message me and ask me like and it's been overwhelming in the sense that I don't know how to just like type out a little snippet of this is what's happened, this is how you know, because it's like, how did you fix it? And it's like it's I don't really know how to answer that question, and so I think it'll be better for us to sit down kind of talk through it, and then you can say, copy episode, copy and paste episode. Yeah, I can literally go listen to you because it's just, yeah, it's overwhelming and I want to respond to people, but it's not an easy response really. So next week we're going to have Kat and Nick on and they're going to share their redemption story and we'll share all about it and a piece of something that I had to kind of say sorry on too. So it's gonna be oh yeah, yea yeah, but it's gonna be good. And so let's take a break and then we're gonna it's a Q and A episode. I have not looked at the questions yet, hats pumped, So stay tuned. Do I get to ask all of them want to see I'm not gonna look at them just to here we go, let's see what do I get a pass? Like when Mark's not on here? I think Mark left our show. I think he did. He just said like I'm out and he's dating she's happy. Fine, I'm not needed to cause problems. I do need to have him come back on just to be like because he was right with soccer he said he we haven't talked to him sense Hay, No, not since I've had a boyfriend. Oh, that's sad. Can we plan one when Mark's very well? I know? So here's my question questions or questions. First question is where do we start? Do we just go for it or do we Okay, we're going to start with number one right at the top of the load at the top. Um, Okay, we'll start here. Do you think your boyfriend Allan we'll ever be able to move to Nashville? Oh? Um? I think mm? Do I think he'll ever move to Nashville. So it's interesting because people have a lot of people when I started dating him, they were like, how is this going to work? And I think in the beginning I didn't really have that because I just was going to go have fun, right and see what this was going to be. And then you know, obviously as the time went on, it was one of those things where I thought, Okay, what could this be right? Because I can't move right now to England with my two kids. I don't think that would be fair at the age that they are, for you know, my acts and and all that, so what can what can you do right? And with his work too, it's one of those things where you know, he's a soccer coach, so he works in England, could potentially work here in the States. So I think it's I think that like the goal sure would be to be in the same place, but because of both of our jobs, we're always going to be traveling so much. So I basically told him, I'm like, listen, wherever you end up, whether it's in England or Ireland or Scotland or like you you make work what you want to make work. That makes sense. Yeah, So I'm not like you have to live in Nashville because we're still exploring the relationship. So I mean, in one day, sure that would probably be the that'd be great, But I always say I don't know if I'm going to be stay in Nashville. Sure, I love Nashville. I would love for this to always be home base. But what if I eventually get that eventually get that role, or I have to live in Atlanta. It's up there in the sky. I can just see it right there. I might be sixty by the time I finally get it, But I don't know, Like you're always willing to go where you need to. Yeah, but I would never uproot the kids. I'll say that too to the UK. Sure, so to make our relationship work, and again with again with his job too. There's a lot of months off, so like he could come here on the months that are off, so that those are the kind of conversations we're having right now. Sure, So, okay, good answer? Is it kind of answered a little, But at the same time, like you don't know for sure, you have no idea what's gonna And I'm not like stressing about that or anxiously being like, oh my gosh, like how is this going to work? It's like it will work if it's meant to work, and we will pieces, we'll all fit together. Yeah, it's meant too. I like that. How do you move on from someone you love but no they are not good for you. How do you move on from someone you love but no they're not good for you. I'll let you start that one. How do you move on from someone you love but no they aren't good for you? Man, that's hard. I could feel like that's a your heart. Your brain knows it, but your heart doesn't know how to follow it kind of thing, if that makes sense. Um, time boundaries, I mean, I think all you can do is give space and time. Really, I mean, how do you It's not overnight, it's not quick, it's not I hate the time answer so much, but that's just what it is. Yeah, I mean I do too. Yeah, but when I think back to relationships, I've had that situation, whether it be friendships or relationship with a man or whatever. Like it truly time. Relationship with a man, a friendship, a friendship woman or whatever, whether it be a relationship or a friendship. Um, it truly just took time because it hurts so much at first. Yeah, and your heart has a hard time. I think time reveals a lot too about who, about the situation and the person. And I think if there's if you're if you're still years past and you're still thinking about this person. Like that's tough. Like there was one person that I had thought about for years, I mean years. He's who I wrote Why You Wana About? I knowd it Wright way Wan who was saying why you wanna about? Right? I mean I thought about him in relationships for you, even when I was in relationships years and you knew he wasn't good for you, But I didn't really know until I knew more about myself. So like now I can go, oh, no, we would have never worked because now I've learned more about myself. So you just truly didn't know that at the time. So I think too, like once you grow, like once you learn more about yourself, and once you once you heal and grow into someone like that person ends up being someone that I wouldn't have liked certain things, and it wouldn't I just don't think it would have worked. Yeah, oh yeah, no, it would not have worked. Oh but did I Oh man, I mean I was. I was obsessed with them for a minute. Isn't it funny how people on the outside are just like, no, obviously, right for ten years, I've been like, I mean, I have a day to do that looked very similar to him. Uh I'm trying to think it looked like him. Oh yes, yes, uh huh, yep. Oh man, Okay, so I think, yes, unfortunately that is yucky. Is I mean I was yucky? Is? Time is the biggest indicator. I think to really see a you know, the situation in the person, and every day gets a little easier. I think, yeah, yeah, okay, this is a good question. Any advice on how to make adult friendships? I find I found it super hard since I moved to California. This is so hard. I was actually just talking to a girlfriend, or not even a girlfriend. I just met her, but it's a girlfriend. It was one of Alan's friends wives, and she goes really hard to meet women at this age. She's like, and it usually takes she said, it's usually takes two years to get into someone's circle. Oh wow, yeah, because we've already had her. We already have our kind of cliques. Actually, they were like our groups or our tribe or whatever you want to call them. And so to have someone else come in, it's like it's a little bit harder. And also we don't have that much time to write. Yeah, it's hard enough getting queendom together, ye, and getting you know, our yuku group together, So it's just to add on another thing. It's like I kind of just want to be yeah, quiet and alone too. Yeah. And that's hard because then if you think though from like that point of view where you've just moved and you don't have any friends where you're at, how hard that would be because so many people already have their stuff, they already have their friends, they already have said they don't have the time, and so to try and like get into that that's tough. That would be hard. I wouldn't I don't envy that position for sure. I would just say you'll end up, you'll find your people, but you don't want to be you don't want to force yourself into the wrong people just because you want to have that connection. So sometimes it's like maybe you just need to face time with your friends from home, yeah for a minute, and then find someone you know and then just honestly, there's a friendship. And I don't want to call it out, but there's been someone who has really just stayed consistent, which then because I have a hard time letting some certain people in, but when the person that stayed consistent. I started to trust. So if like they if they show up and they're consistent with their friendship, then I'm like, okay, yeah, So if you yeah, if you stay consistent and tax ask and like you want to like that, I think that goes a long way if you're trying to get in. Yeah, that's a good point. What is the most impactful thing you've learned in therapy? Oh gosh, what is the most That Almost everything that happens as an adult goes back to childhood. Yeah, I mean my reactions to anything and everything I could now pinpoint to something from when I was a child. Why I react the way they do? Wait, why I feel the way I do? And it's empowering to really know that, But at the same time, it's like super frustrating for me. I get very frustrated with that. Well, like, for instance, like I have like a little like tiff with some of my cheer mom friends right now, and it's really the girls, Wait, do they listen to this? Probably it's okay, it's not. I mean, it's not like we've been talking through it. But they know me well enough to know that, Like I'm going to say something I want to talk it out right, and we've handled it very well. But what I realized about myself it's like in that moment, I'm like, I am being triggered because of childhood stuff. Interesting, you're being triggered because of childhood stuff. And it's like so frustrating to me because it's like I want to tell myself just like you're being triggered because it like let it go or you know whatever, like you don't have to talk this out or you don't you know whatever. It's just just very frustrating. I feel stuck in that sometimes. Can I ask what the problem is or the issue? Yeah, we just have you know, girls have grown up together cheering together. Age differences are very different. You know, We've got two that are close in age. They're clearly very best friends, and now we have an older one who's always been very good friends with them, but is now kind of only wanting to hang out with one of them and kind of causing some riffs there. But the older one and my daughter are on the same cheer team, they're in the same stunt group, and it gets to be a problem and they start arguing and they start blaming, and already a sport. That's easy to do that anyway, and so it's just something you know. I finally was like, but we have all the parents are friends. So then they start talking within and I'm like, okay, so I'm hearing this like what do I need to deal with? What do I not? And it's just like, but I just am very sensitive to being left out. I'll admit it. It has been from childhood. I just and so when it happens to my daughter or if I feel that way, like it just triggers me and I hate it. I wish I was one of those, like one of our friends. I'm like, how do you just like let it roll off? Beatus? I don't care. They want to hang out with me. They want to hang out with me, and I'm just like, god, I wish I was like that. I'm just not what piece of childhood, like, where did you feel left out? So I had, like my entire childhood there was three of us, which is never good. Three best friends growing up next door to each other. And for whatever reason, I think because my parents worked more, they were stricter, I wasn't able to hang out as much. It was definitely more too on one against me and it was just one of them is that we dealt with my entire childhood, and it was just like I came home in tears every day and like you know, and so and then from that it was kind of a family of just suck it up, you know. And so now I'm trying to weigh like telling Emmy to suck it up. It's part of life. You're going to get left out, but then also trying the other side be soft to it and not tell her to just suck it up, like your feelings matter and you know all the things. Yeah, three and a friendship is tough, and the feeling left out. That's it was a Mary and Lindsay where the two in my neighborhood, and I was the third so Mary, so me and Lindsay were really tight, but Lindsay was really tight with Mary. So it was always Mary and Lindsay. And then I kind of felt like the outside. So my MoMA said, never hang out with a group of three. And so it's happening in my neighborhood now with Jolie where I'm like, shoot, like three is tough. It is. So there's like there's two friends and then she's kind of like lately been like the third and it's like, oh man, like we got to either get a four thin or find her or someone else that's like a buddy. Yeah. It's strong, too hard, and when your your kids feel left out, you just it just kills your heart. Yeah, and because you remember how it feels like it was yesterday. Yeah yeah, and I still And the problem is is I, as an adult, still feel that way. Uh. Same. And I envy those that are just like, I mean there are some people they are truly like cool, but I don't want to hang out with me. I'm just like, why does that not hurt your feelings? I just like to be invited? Yeah, same, yeah, same, I mean yeah, that's the piece where yeah, just because it's like, well, why don't they did I do something wrong? They not like me? Or yeah, it takes us back to our childhood wounds in our childhood, like but why like why did they? Yeah? Absolutely, man, it's it's tough. We should get hypnotized to not have that problem. Please, I would love to take that away. She would, Grace would be great with up. Actually, I think that's something where it's yeah, just to be like okay, yeah, like I'm I'm sensitive and I'll admit it, but you know, we should do that cheer show we were talking about. I was literally thinking, I'm like, where are the cameras? Right? We need we need to do that treatment because that would be great. I could get I'm telling you, we love and we have a great group of people and a great group of moms. But it can get I can get interested. Oh I want to watch it's so bad. So we're like, we're gonna we need to write that treatment. That would be good. We'll write that for sure, that would be really good. All right, Well, but no, it's true that I mean to go back to that question. I mean, everything truly does go back to child too trauma. And I think that's why when you you know that's that's the first thing, and it's like you just go hugging that whatever age because there's an age, whatever age that is that that was your first impactful moment. Like I'm six, so it's like always hot when she scares me with Joe Las she's seven, I'm like, God, what did I do when she was at six or seven? Man? I love that. I don't know the age. Yeah, so you go back to the age and that's who That's who you become when you're with Nick, when you're with your girl friends, when you're that is the age. So like when we were in therapy with my ex, it was a six and a fourteen year old fighting against each other. My six year old is wanting to be loved. His fourteen year old is wanting to like you know, like not be controlled. And yeah, wow, can you be multiple ages with different like traumas and different I'm sure, but there's one that's going to be the most interesting. Okay, I'm gonna dig into that. Yeah, because it's like that's where you then start you turn it and go you have empathy and you basically this is what I learned on site. You talk to that six year old little girl like what did you want to hear in that moment when you got scared from dad? Like why did you not feel safe? And like what do you want to tell her that you're safe? And like you like talk, I mean, I'm like, I know like this, you know, I'm like you're safe, but like then but then you feel it and you embrace it and then you like so like you know, whether it's the being left out or it'd go it would probably go a core deeper something to to that, like what that feeling is, and then like you would talk to that and it would help your adult self like heal from that childhood wound. All right, well I'm going to work on that. I'm working out at friends, I promise. No, I mean, but I mean, shoot, we're always I mean the other day in therapy, I had like it was one of those moments where um, you know, when you go in and you're like, I'm good, I don't really have anything to talk about. Accidentally actually missed the session. She's like are you coming, and I'm like, oh, gawn, and I like put it in the wrong um coast or something. I think that's what happened. I'm not really sure. And so or it was because we got hacked. Oh god, who knows. Maybe they were changing around my therapy times on the same day it was the day that we found out that we got that I got hacked. Oh my god. Yeah. So anyways, but it was one of those where I was just kind of like walking in and I had like this one thing. I go, Okay, I kind of wanted to talk about this, but it's nothing like super pressing cut two was the biggest um revelation I've had. But also it was something that I'm like, I thought I got past this, So I was like, I was crying because I was like disappointed to I was like, I thought, I've already moved on from this, and she goes those those those wounds. It was like, those threads stay in you. Oh, and they just show up at different times. And I'm like, our children, That's what I think about when I hear that. I'm just like, and this is gonna be a thread for the rest of our lives. It's fine doing the best so we can. I'm gonna ask you this, okay, because you've never have okay, and you know I have. So do you believe in the saying once Chetter I was a cheater? Who? No, I don't. I don't think it's that black and white. Explain. I think there are some people that are chronic cheaters and may never change from that. But I don't think just because you've cheated one time or a couple of times or whatever, that you're always going to be a cheater. I just don't think it's that black and white. I think everybody's different. I think some people will heal from it, and I think some people will never change from it, but I don't. I think every case is different. Yeah, I can easily think of people I know that person's going to cheat for the rest of their life. I can guarantee it. And I can easily think of people I know that I'm like, they're never going to cheat again. So I just don't think it's that black and white. Yeah, what about you, I think it's situational. Having said that, I think, like, if I would have stayed married to Max, I think he would have cheaved forever because I think he was just yeah that like, but I don't think I think he capable of not cheating in his next serious relationship, So maybe you know what I mean. Like, I think cheople can change, and I've seen people change. I know that for me it's situational, but also like, I don't want to ever go back to that feeling. I'd rather just be like, this is not working out for me because I know what it does, I know what it likes, what it feels like too cheat on someone, and I know what it feels like to be cheated on. So I'm like, I just don't like that anymore. You know the full repercussions of all of it. It's awful. Yeah. So, but so no, I would say I don't believe in that saying at all. Having said that, I if you are and you have been someone that's done that, like like I did in my twenties, like it just you have to just set like very strong boundaries and the why are you looking for that reassurance or that love or that need to be wanted or so it's it's you're not going to really truly get it from the other person, that you're going to cheat him. Yeah, that makes sense. It's something within you that you're looking for. Yeah, yeah, because it's it's the worst validation you'll ever get, right, because the damage is awful for hurting and you've receiving. Sure, all right, I'm scrolling up. Oh you're scrolling I am, I am. I like this question. Has Mike met Alan yet or will he? Oh? You you you you you dam Catherine. I love this question. It's a valid question. It is a valid question. You know why I struggle with this question why is because I'm like really trying to be more private with this relationship. Okay, fair, and so I know if I was this say the answer or an answer that I just I don't know. I don't know how to step with this one, right because I just I'm like, I want to be more private, Okay. But I will also say like they will for sure meet you know, with because I'm sure he'll be around the kids eventually. Sure, Okay, fair, And I respect that you're you're wanting to keep it private. And I'll scroll down a little them because everyone wants to know all about Alan. One more question about Alan. Yeah, okay, I like this one though. This one's pretty easy. Um, will he ever come on the podcast? Oh? Of, I think Okay, So he's very private. I mean he's got you know, he's he's a very private person and I love that about him. I I will say this, and this is what we've kind of talked about because he is, um pause, he is a private. One of the things I said to him, I was like, yeah, you know, I'm not private? Have you? I know you found me on Instagram? But did you like watch my Instagram at all? Like? I don't. I I say a lot of stuff and I don't hold back on a lot of things. Uh So for someone who lives a private world, that can be I just might not be your girl for that reason. Now I can publicly not share us having said that, I'm gonna want to eventually and I'm gonna want to share the good stuff. Now, what I will never do is I will you will you will never And I can say this, you will never hear me talk anything bad about I mean to say bad, but like I don't ever want to get on this podcast ever again and talk about like the relationship hardships from a wounded place, like we can be like, oh, he left the like the other day. It was cute, like he um, he'll like wash the dishes or whatever, and then he'll leave them on the counter and I'm like, hy bap, like here's a doubl Like you know how obsessed I am about my countertops. It's the one thing I was like, it's the one thing I don't like seeing circle rings like and then just like water on my countertops, like just you know, And so he was cute. He left me a little note. He goes, um, what do you say? It was a He's like, deal with it, love you like with a you know what I mean? Like it was really cute and he like left him up there again. Oh I love that and it was so cute like made me smile. Um, but like so like things like that, like we would, but I would Mike and I just talked about so much heavy and hard stuff and like I hope we never will ever have to experience that in our relationship. Um. But even so, like I don't want to talk about that. I don't want it to be like oh struggling, like it's just like I So that's the piece too where I'm like, I promise you that that's not I'm gonna be like, oh, like I will always hold you in the highest respect, and like that's what I love about our relationship is there's so much respect. How I talked to him, how he talks to me, Like it's just it's a level of respect I've never in my life have received nor given. So that's where I just like with with him coming on the podcast, like it would Yeah, sure, I'm sure one time he would, like for fun and because I know everyone just wants to like hear his acts, that would be fun. But even today he was working out with us, and Aaron's like, what I know, every time he talks, I'm like so uh so yeah, but you know what I mean though about like not having like the so that's where sometimes And I even told him, I was like, if you don't ever want me to discuss us or like I I will respect that too, And he's like, no, Baby's like, I get it. This is your this is what you do. He's like, I just don't want the like which we haven't had a fight ever. Um, so that's great, but if we were too, Like I'm like, no, I never because I don't want to live that life again. Of like that being the story of us. It shouldn't it should be like the happy ending, you know what I mean. Yeah, well, I mean it's not any you know, it's kind of not any different when they talk about like not telling your family, you're not telling your friends, like about all your fights and stuff like that, Like you don't really want to taint because in the moment you're frustrated and you're whatever. But in the scheme of things like but you don't want to taint it to everybody, you know, like we got in this stupid little fight and I'm going on this fight and I got in this and it's like, all right, well I don't like them. Then you know, it's like you don't really want to. Yeah, I mean I will. I will say the things like when I'm not used to having So he's over obviously over here right now visiting, I'm like, I'm not used to having a guy in the house. So he's like babe, but I'm like, god, he's scared, so you forget eas here, Like yeah, I'm like he's like, his is like babe, and I'm like, oh my gosh. So it's like I'm you know, I get scared easily too, But I'm also not used to hearing like a man voice in that right. So it's like if I'm taking like I was taking a shower before the podcast, and he was like, I'm like, oh my god, I'd share to get scared so easily, Like I just walk into our house and have to be like Jana texting FYI I'm here. If not, she jumps Amile in the air I know. So that's why he's like BP. He's like, let me tell you the differences scaring, and then he's like this is scary. He comes around the corner from the shower. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, okay, I get it. Um that's like, yeah, I'm not used to it, so yeah, I think a little things like that. But besides that, I'm like, I think it'll be fun to have them one day and like yeah, fun as a fun but maybe like in the future, who knows, but I get it. He's private, which I love. Yeah. Oh yeah, I think we all love it. Someone that doesn't want to date me just for followers, Yeah, let's stay brebit. Yeah, um, okay, let's see maybe like one or two more, Okay, one or two more. I'm trying to think, oh, well, are you happy? Yeah, okay, that a question. I just want everybody hear the answer. Yes. You know. You know what I will say to this is it doesn't have to be that hard. Yeah, it's been the thing that has just like I see and I know we're only what fives he five months? Fine, but usually by this point, like Bill had been like something, especially in like my last one, but like the three month mark, I'm like, oh, it's like it doesn't have to be that hard. It can just be like really awesome and respectful and communicate well and like yeah, I'm sure we'll have our moments, but like, it doesn't have to be that hard. It's like the struggle that like I had with Max's and like, it just doesn't have to be that. They're like, oh my god, it could have just been I'm like, this is like this is oh my goodness. Yeah. Well and it's like your you pick your battles, you know, yeah, things are going to come up, but for sure things are going to come up. Like I know we're still on but by this point things would have already come up, right for me at least, And this is just like I'm like, wow, this is And someone had told me that once and it was actually, you know, it's interesting. It's the person that said that was the person that I had liked, like weighed my past that I hung on too for a minute, and but I was married and he's like, how's things going? And I was like, oh man, because we were on tour and he was saying, um, I'm like, it's just a struggle, and he goes, you know, it doesn't have to be that hard. Wow, And that's always always stuck with me. I'm like, but it is. I'm like I looked at him, like, you have no idea what marriage? Just like, don't even like it is hard, buddy, And a married marriage is hard, but like, it doesn't have to be that hard. Yeah, it's the that piece. Yeah, that's funny. That came from him. Hey, stuck with you. It did for ten years and now I'm like, thanks, you're right it doesn't. Yeah, that's great. I love it. Okay, that was a little Q and A for y'all. We're going to come back next week with Nick and Catherine and it's gonna be it's gonna be a good one. Okay, so excited. See you guys next week. Bye bye,

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