Pillow Talk with Patti Stanger

Published Jan 14, 2019, 8:00 AM

Millionaire Matchmaker Patti Stanger whines down with us this week, and she's got some knowledge to drop on Jana and Mike about infidelity. She has some expert insight as to why people cheat, and some tips on how to live with someone who's cheated. But she and Jana MAJORLY disagree on how to pickup men. 

And Jana has a shocking secret to admit to Mike from years ago in their relationship. 

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Swine Down with Jane Kramer and I Heart radio podcast. So sometimes you guys might wonder what we talked about before podcast. Let me just I said, you guys stop talking and record this right now. So what we just started talking about is we came into the studio and there are sleep number pillows and for me, I don't like the fact that Mike has to sleep with about ten pillows because when I make the bed in the morning, where do I put those pillows? When you make the bed in the morning. Wait, wait, wait, wait a second, I'm sorry. Okay, yes, you do make the bed a lot, but you don't, but you don't when I make the bed, I make sure that it's pretty and that have the nights I practically make the bed. Yeah, but you make the bed are never used, but that looks better. So yes, you do coming into our room on a daily basis. But sometimes I like But I'm just saying I like to make the bed look really nice, like how the designers like have the bed made and what when I do do that, which again is rare, but I like to do that. But I would do it more if I didn't have six five six pillows to have to work with on your side of the bed because where do I put those? And then I put him in your closet and there's not room in the closet, and it's just frustrating because then you pull your pillows out of the closet, so I don't so I see these boxes here with pillows, And then you and Mark started talking about well Eastern only sleeps one pillow. He's like a he's a vampire that it stands straight up right. Yeah, yeah, this is the pillow talk. We have one pillow each. We're going minimal. That was my wife's decision. And then Mark said that he has to have pillows all the way down his legs. So I mean, it's a big body pillow. It's especially made pillow for your knees. So clearly I'm not the only person who has this what Mike has it. But also they have a special one made for your knees together ankles. I think they take care of themselves up at blankets between my ankles stop, I don't like I just kind of wrapped them around. I don't like my skin to touch my own skin. And the funny story is that I've been that way forever. And I mentioned to my sister, and she's the exact same way. She has a special thing she wears between her boobs so her boobs don't touch when she's laying. She's gonna love you for saying that, Oh my gosh. And then do you like one? You like one to keep you propped up? Right? You know? All I know is that when we go to bed, let me just say this, he makes he makes a fort pillow so that I don't see the light from his eye bad because he plays games before he has to go to bed out of them in my heart, so I don't wake you up, right? But then I look over there to try to cuddle with you, and I have to fight through a fort pillow to get through to you on your side of the bed. I'm like, that's too much effort to go to strategically place so you don't wake me up. I see that, But what do you like to do with your pillows? I like to see I'm the same way as Mark, but I have to hold one and I have to have one between my legs. But I don't like body pillows because it's like I'm having another person. It's like cuddling, but it just makes me hot. So that's what I don't understand, and that's why I wanted to talk about this on air because I was like, oh, that's why I said press record, because if you like to cuddle with a pillow, what's the difference between me cuddling with you which you don't like to talk? It's so hot? Yes, but I know your body. You're cold as ice. You don't get proper blood flow to your extremities. But I'm like a human blanket, so anything I'm up against is usually hot, which doesn't make sense. And while you're holding a pillow, because when a pillow pillow breathes, it's not a human body. But what is it though? Is it the comfort of holding something? Yeah, it's just just train your mind to like comfort to hold me because it's too hot, No, hot bog. Could it be a stuffed animal? Could it be like a bid? Be sure to be big and comfy, and I'm big and comfy. But if I wrap myself in an ice dress tiny, yeah, that could work. You know that'd be good. Well, all I know is that now I'm going to have twenty pillows. So thanks Sleep number, I'm super excited to do your ad to have more pillows. Um, but talking about uh touch, it's very interesting. So I went to the O B g U I n this morning and I actually instagram well yes, actually he did, but my ob gyne is a guy. But I got cleared because it was the six week check up, so I haven't talked to you about it. Not he really for sex, No I got. I mean I got cleared to officially work out and do abs and all those things she's been doing. But I know I haven't done apps. So one of the things, and I said, one of my biggest pet peeves and I kind of can relate to you, babe about this. So I'm at the gynecologists and she has done this, and I said, I posted a story about this, and I said, you guys, I'm going to share on my podcast next week what drives me crazy at the gynecologist that this person does. And they're probably thinking, you know it paps me, but no it's not. So remember the nurse. I don't remember her name, but every single time I'm sitting to get my blood pressure, she rubs my back like in a slow circle movement, and it makes my skin literally crawl, and I'm like, I'm a thirty five year old woman. Why can't I say can you please not do that? But yet I sit there and here's the problem. So today she's rubbing my back. He is Jinna. He has just breathe, and I'm like, please put your hands off my back, and you're rubbing me like this is making me like I'm crawling inside my skin. But then my blood pressure doesn't read the first time, so she's got to do it again, and she rubs my back and doing it all over again. I'm like, this is what Mike feels with intimacy and running back world. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Yea, but here's where I'm going to say, you're mean, because that's the nurse. I'm your wife. So do you really feel like skin like nails on a chalkboard when I'm rubbing your back? Sometimes? Yeah, I think I do. Your face is like I really want to say yes, but but I just don't understand why I can't say can you please not do that? But then I feel bad because I don't want to hurt her feelings. What is that? Can can anyone could? I don't want to. I don't want her to do that, but that's not you're saying you don't like something, isn't shouldn't hurt someone else's feelings, Mark, I don't think he would make her feel bad. I don't think she has any investment in rubbing your back, but she doesn't single time. I don't want just at that. But that's why I say could dependency because you don't want hurt because you make up that she will feel bad, so you don't want to hurt her feelings when really the reality is time. If you told that somebody, Okay, no problem, I wouldn't think twice of it. People, but people like you and me worry about that. I just feel like if I said, because my I'm like, be a big girl, be a big girl, Janna, tell her to stop rubbing your back, Tell her to stop rubbing your back. And I was about to say it, but then I'm like, I don't want her to think I'm a bee? But why why why would somebody think you are? Because I'm telling them to stop something, stop something that you don't like, right, I don't know, But I'm not saying it's easy because it sounds ridiculous when you talk about it like this, but I get it. But instead I'm sitting there like nails on a chalkboard, wishing she would get her hands off of me and stop rubbing me. You know, you'd probably be thrilled to stop you but I think that's our thing. I think she's an older lady. You know she's but I don't know. She kind of annoys me, and so it's just it's frustrating. We're also worried about what other people think. That's the bigger issue I think is that there's there's the quote that says, you wouldn't worry so much about what other people think if you realize how little they think about you, because they don't. Everyone just thinks about themselves. They're not thinking about you. But I'll be worried about I would to think of me, to think of an idiot, to think of a jerk. Yeah, they don't think anything about you. Do you think it's more of people thinking thinking that way that people are thinking about them or is it? Are we that way? Because in the past people have said what they meant and people get offended, like people are too sensitive and take it personal. It's like, oh, you don't want me to rub your back out. I was just trying to help you. Like, jeez, I was just trying to be here and support you and calm you down, but you don't want me to do it. Okay, fine, Like you're a bit right, and the next thing you see you're on on social media. Oh my gosh, I have the craziest She's the worst. I mean, I don't think she has social but I mean again, I agree with you. I think that's the bigger issue about the fact that why do we care what people think? But I do? I mean, you care. Just in therapy the other day, you you wanted us to do a different to resolve an issue different so that you didn't think our friends thought this way. You know. Yeah, sure, so it's like we so we care about what the people think. But I think it also depend Do you ever have your moments, like in that situation where you're just in a mood that you don't care and you'll just say it. I don't think I could get myself there because I really is, you know, frustrated as I was, and a no wad. I just can't say it. And I'm fearing my pop smear in three months because I don't want her to touch me. I'm fine with the pap smear. I don't want her rubbing my effing back. See, I'm that, I'm that. I'll have my moments where I'm out way, but also I have times where I just don't care at all. Like today playing golf with Justin and Garrett. There's like a seven year old man in front of us that was taking us. We has time on the tea box and finally I was like, we need telling the hurry up there. I know that's what I mean. He's like seventy and I was like, hurry up. Oh my god, Well your mean so mean. So we have Patty Stanger coming in millionaire matchmaker and apparently she's a psychic. Now so I'm a jill of all trades? What I did there? Jack said Jacket Steele. Um, so it was good. We have to explain your joke. I still don't get it, but that's fine. So, oh my gosh. Moving on, let's talk about sleep number, shall we? Yeah, and how excited we are about all the pillows? I mean, okay, truly, I am excited though, because we do have a lack of pillows in certain other rooms. Many couples disagree when it comes to mattress, behind which they seems like a small thing, but because of Sleep Number, Janna and I don't have to argue or have long discussions about this because she gets her firmer side, which she loves, and I love soft, cushy side of the mattress. So because of our sleep number, we're able to adjust it to our liking. Um. Yes, and if you come in during the January savings event and you can save up to five dollars on select Sleep Number three sixty smart bets, I like that because that's what we have. Do you know? The news Sleep Number also too. It helps everyone from pro athletes improve their daily performance through proven quality sleep. Again, as a parent, I love it because a good night's sleep is everything. So and I always say that you spend half your life in bed, so you need to have an amazing mattress. Sleep Number is the official sleep and wellness partner of the NFL. You only find Sleep Number at one of their five seventy five Sleep Number stores nationwide, so visit sleep number dot com slash Janna to find the one nearest you, Zola. It's something really cool too that I want to talk to you guys about because so my best friend Amy is getting married in Scotland and she's actually using Zola. So there's over five hundred thousand couples that have used Zola. It basically takes the stress out of planning because you know she's you know she's she's new to all this wedding planning stuff. Obviously it's her it's her first marriage and hopefully her last marriage. But so this site is really great that it's been helping her and many others. Obviously five hundred thousand others plan their registry, dates, invitation planning tools. Again, it's just a very convenient place to do all things online in one website. So you can start with the free wedding website. It's so easy and just takes minutes to set up. You can add stories about photos, accommodations, where the guest day. It really truly is great. UM there's over five hundred top brands and UM again to set up your registry, which would be awesome. So to start your free wedding website and also get fifty dollars off your registry and Zola, go to Zola dot com slash Janna that Zola z o l a dot com slash Janna for fifty dollars off your registry Zola dot com slash Jana Um. We have a beautiful woman that just walked into the studio. Hey girl, y'all welcome Patty Stanger. Hi guys, Hey Patty Crystal in the middle of the room. Crystal, what is that? I think it's a crystal right that's supposed to wipe all the activity away. It's a light crystal. So Michael and I have we don't really we had. We've had some Crystal people on people. Crystal. You gotta have Jenna Dolana. She's obsessed with them. I see I heard the other night and she well she's she's got a YouTube channel with all these amazing Crystal Are you Crystal? Yeah? Oh see we are just like, don't know, I'm not like my Glass friend is like obsessed. And I'm like, if you're going to bad grade or you have a bad problem with your wife or your relationship, you take a piece of Celenia. You can get any crystal sto. It looks just like it's like it's kind of like a white um. I don't how to describe. It's like they make sticks out of him and you wipe yourself all over your aura and then you're good to go and all the negativity goes away. I mean, in theory, I think that sounds amazing, but I think, like you said, it's mind over matter because we had this one. Anyways, long story short is, you know, we're holding a crystal in our hand, and if I was like he said, if I was to hold a pen in my hand and I did some deep breathing, I would be centered and feel Yeah, but the crystals are alive. So the earth, the trees and the grass and the strawberries you eat, do they make you feel better? Okay, well, the crystals are alive. Chocolate makes me feel a little better, more better cut out? That comes from the earth. What about wine? Wine comes from the earth. That's a great all right. Yeah, so not only are you a crystal expert, you're also a millionaire a matchmaker. Uh so we have a bunch of questions, alright, hit me hard land. So it's like, I see Ryan like was the first person to like every month that you spent me on the radio. And he's like, come mon, Patty, got questions like a question, So like literally it's time for you to ask me anything. Okay. I love it very podcast about relationships. Mostly I can see that. So who's single in the room. The hot girl that just brought me into the Dories story is hot Tories. She wore the most she could be, Dory. Do you want to be on? I thought? Sorry, sorry, Tori wore these amazing genes with like a really cool story, your dress good, you know, to get out tonight. You know what the problem with Tori is? Tori? Can you get on? I'm not saying the problem. The only problem that I have because we were trying to pimper out when we're in Vegas. She doesn't know how to flirt. I know, I know how that. Guys, you expect the men to come to you, to initiate the flirt, to initiate the fir because what it is. And we live in bumble country now where men are like, oh my god, you asked me, you buy the lunch, you you know what, you call me, You chase and text me, and it's like, are you kidding me? We have to work twice as hard er now. I do have a question, though I'm somebody like I don't really have a problem because I'm I'm an extrovert to like the Max, so I love to engage in conversation with girls. No, I'm a guy's girl. But the exactly because you're buddy, you're gonna you're gonna hit him on the show and go you'll do let's go watch the game. No, he wants sexy mix, which is why I said she has a problem with learning. You don't have to go You don't have to go Kardashian. You just need to side entail. You need to you don't have to put out the low plunge to get the man. Like if you looked at the Golden Globes, how many lope I mean? And it's always the girls who don't have breasts that's my favorite part, you know. Or then it's the girl who has too big a breast and she just bought the new implants for the golden gloves. So you don't have to go crazy music because less is more, But you gotta get in the middle lanes a little bit of guy, you know, a little bit of flirt and a little bit of sex appeal. Michael, do you agree? I agree with breaking my to drink maximum with you? How's that you like that? To drink maximum tequila goes a long way? Oh? I hate tequila. You don't want to be a drunk though, No, no, no, no, you just want to get into it. When she hit the flirty zone of the drink, you stop and you pour a glass. Jenny McCarthy taught me this. Okay, she takes she she took me out once to sew how slashed. You know. She's like, how do you drink like this? And I'm not a big drinker. And she drank emergency in between every glass of alcohol, and and her skin glowed and she got flirt. I mean, nobody knows how to flirt like Jenny. Okay, take a page from McCarthy. I got it. Okay, she the best flirter in the sun my my pre married life. I was a pretty darn good flirter. You still look like you're a good flirter. She was, But you're But she's like, we're trying to pimp out Tory. At Vegas. It was like there was nobody to pimp out because somebody was like, Janna, can I get you anything? She's got this big, big I know, but still it's an attraction thing. Albody was like, who is this chick? Okay, but here's the little She's perky, you can put her in her pocket. You're tall like me, you like to wear heels, you're you're like me. So it's like we don't fit into munchkin land you so we have to do a little bit of like, you know, we gotta get real soft and take her down. So we have to go. We have to go, like, um, thank you so much for that drink. That was not a secting lessons from data. Do it? You gotta do it, you gotta go. That's the guy. Oh that I don't like that. It's not stupid, like you're stupid. It's like you're subtle and you're like cascance and you're vulnerable. You're what what about raising strong? You know, I want my daughter, she's going to probably be an Amazon and tall because my husband is super tall. I don't want her to, you know, to do that because I want her to be confident who she is. Okay, And that's what I do love about you. You're confident in who you are and I don't want to see Tori like playing with no. Listen, this is biology because once you get them to the gate and they like you, then you go back to your real stuff. And now you got them. But then that's that's how ever, doesn't it doesn't matter. They're in love by then you've had sex, all things are good. He's like, oh my god, I got the soft girl and I got the hard out. And then they'll say to you like today I need soft girl. Please don't bring your heart out, like, don't be who you are. Then No, I'm saying, be a mystery, as my mother would say, like nobody else I will. What I will say from a guy's perspective is what I'm best secting from what Patty's saying is it's kind of like playing the game right. So as a man naturally a taller woman and stuff like that, it's a little bit more intimidating. I mean, I'm bigger than most, so not for me, but maybe there's five ft ten guys out there have a harder time so to feel like they are still the man. It's actually at the beginning of the relationship to know that they are taking care of them, to know that you don't have this amazing strong female right off the bath. It's like me and I have nothing off for them, Like they just take care of themselves. I don't want to feel like I can't. No, it's not it's not that. It's that we live in an Instagram social media. We're married to our phones were not engaging anymore, and we live in this society right now where it's all about you know you, we forgot to connect. So in order to connect, we've got to, like, you know, kind of shed all this crap. And that's how you get soft. Once she gets solidly, once she gets soft, they love you the flirt. I've seen tall girls that are lanky, tall girls like six footers from supermodels, and they'll put the little flirty murdy on and I just sit there and I go, oh my god, look at the look at the water boy over there like dumping it. And it's because she's like, thank you, and oh my god, that was so sweet of you, and oh my god, you got tuna on my salad and without me asking, like you know, I watched this all day long. I will slap my child if she does that. I want her to be confident. I want her to be you know, I'm not saying she has to be a B, A T. C. H or whatever. I just want her to be. I want her to be a nast, right, that's I mean a million of matchwaker. I curse like a sailor. Okay, I mean, like that's why you watch the show, right, But but if you don't understand, it's not not being strong. Look, I'm outfit work and I'm beta at home. And that is why that's the way I like it, because I could not be outfit at home. I'd be exhausted. So it's hard for the man to see the beta. When you're at here. You can't see the beata you're calling the shot to, like Patty, come in here. You wanted to let what we got you on tennis? Like you're moving and shaken and you're hustling. Okay, And unless that guy at works sees you. One of these dudes here, if they're single and they're looking at you like, oh, I really love a hustle girl, they have to have a hustler mother to love that. Funny, that's the that's the dynamic. My mom was a hustler. I want a strong woman. My mom was really beta to my father's alpha. I want to beta. So wherever they come from, that's usually the DNA of what they choose. So and now I need them to bring their moms on our first dates. No, no, you need to ask them about your mom. Do you you know you'd say, oh, you're close to your family, open into questions. They go, I freaking hate my mother and I we haven't seen my mother in twenty years. But run, run run. You can never fill that void. What do you think about cheaters? Oh, well, my mom so, my mom was Mrs Mazel. You everybody watching the Marvel's Life and Mrs Masiel so in X three, my mother's first husband, who was my first father, I'm adopted, cheated on my mother and she was Mrs Mazel. She didn't cry in her soup, she didn't freaked f out. She picked up me up, put me into my grandparents house, said he cheated. I'm getting a divorce and my grandmother's talking her out of getting What will you do? You have no skills even though she went to college, and she's like, I'm not going to put up with this. And she tells him she wants a divorce. Now he's like, no, little bezos action there, he f y I she wants. He wants to keep his cake and eat it too. And you go every Wednesday night to this famous restaurant which is still their palace cabin in New Jersey, and he would cheat. She's like, I want a divorce. My mother's crafty, you know, She's thinking, how am I going to get out of this? I want a doorse those days you could fly to Puerto Rico and get a divorce, and he would He said, no, I want my cake and eating too. So she knew his best friend was a total freaking nerd. She sits down next to the best friend at the bar at seven o'clock when she knows her her husband's coming in. My father and she kisses him on the lips. The nerd, that was the threshold. You cheated on me, he thinks in his mind, little on that he cheated on her. Fludi putter Rica the next day, get divorce once a cheater. If they're cheated once, they may not cheat again. But if the history says that they've cheated, I like to call them jumpers. They're not really cheaters. They're jumpers. They go from relationship to relationship and trade up. They trade up, they trade up the trade and that's kind of like their mma. Oh you didn't you didn't make me feel good today, you didn't give me attention. I'm just gonna go find somebody who else does and there in mind, they don't think it's cheating, you know what I mean? Like, like we're finding out about Bezos today with the texts and Lauren and all this, I'm like, why did you want to file divorcee? Why did you wear a ring at the Golden Globes? Like? What really is going on behind the scenes here? Now? We don't know that because we don't know if this was an arrangement. But when you're blind side of talking about I have two kids and I'm teasing you and okay, haven't looked at the news this morning. But when I'm saying is no, two people are like, it's not snowflake city. Okay, I mean it's snowflake City. No. Two people are like you. You can't say, all man cheat, If you cheated once, she'll cheat again, because that's not true. There's a why, there's a reason. Is this a natural inclination? Did his other cheat? Did his mother cheat? Is this who he is? Is he's so excited about grabbing that brassy new ring that he doesn't care about his family, then he's not really a family man. And we've all been duped. We've we've all been where you've been. We've I've been cheated on. I'm cheated on by a firefighter, told never to date, a firefighter said, oh, he would never do that to me. Cheated on me. Nine eleven firefighters. Okay, on the cover of the of the you know the calendar. Okay, Steve, you know who you are anyway? Um in New York, Okay, cold Spring anyway. So the point I'm making is that no two people are alike because my father, my mother's second husband, never cheated on her and loved her to other day that he died. And so it depends on the situation. I hate saying absolute. I'm not an absolute. I just I'm always curious about, you know, because you're a matchmaker, and if you saw someone that did cheat on someone, you know, are you hesitant to then match the person with someone because they have had that pass. Usually council both sides, and if it's I'm not getting sacks, I'm not getting at tend shin Um. We've gone to counseling, we try to work it out. They're not giving me anything. It's time to leave, But I don't agree in cheating. I agreed you leave, Then you have another relationship, like you declare we're separated, you gotta move. I won't fix anyone unless they've moved out of the house. I have to move it up. They don't have to legal separation, but they have to move out of that house. Okay. And the other thing is you know, like, did you know that he was going to cheat my husband? Yeah? Did I know he was going to cheat? Did you have any clinations along the way. He's looked at girls at parties, he was flirty with a lot of women. He had cheated when we were dating before we got married. So I mean I maybe thought he might back of the head. Okay, but you thought, maybe, you know, maybe he got it was a one time thing. Okay. Well that's what most people think. Um. But generally speaking, UM, a man cheats for a reason. Now there's a ego. You know, I'm getting a piece of you know what that I couldn't get before. I didn't get the cheerier in high school, So therefore I'm going to go for it. But he got. Now I'm talking about like, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about nerds that go off like they make a lot of money. The millionaires, that are nerds in high school and then they make a lot of money and then they cheat on their average annie wives because they couldn't get the movie star. So now they're now they're in the game. My best friend had an experience like that, and he said, I could never get those hot girls. And then you know, I got to the I got to the game, I got to the to the party and there it was and it was like, I was like, well why, And he's like, because I always wanted that. You have to find out why anything. I mean, I get that, I get that mindset, but I mean like she's like, she's saying that the reason. If you find out the reason, then I think you can kind of cancer the disclaimer. Does it make it right? Right? Right here? Nothing is right? Yeah, But if you're able to deep down, through therapy or whatever resource, find out the reason behind whoever whichever party is cheating and address that, then you can, I think you can kill the stereotype of once you always achieve ours. It's it's the why is the healing because then you go, I don't want you anyway because that's what you did it. But I'm gonna tell you something. You're gonna be blown away. Women cheat more than men. They just don't get okay, well they don't get out with this one. Well, they don't get caught because I don't get caught. And the truth of the matter is, if you've cheated, karma, it's like it comes around, cloes around. Well, that's why I forgave him in the beginning, was because I because I had that guilt that I did that in relationship, so I wanted to forgive him. You were the cheater, okay, And when you first I said, I didn't know you guys are together. Nobody gave me in front. This is my husband. Okay, thank you to my publistness, which I didn't know that. Okay, now I'm finding my I'm like, okay, okay, so you so you went out, we went out. He cheated, and then I took him back because I have not I'm sorry, it's not a relationship. I've cheated in the majority of my relationships. Because again it was the why did you cheat? Because the next new shiny thing, I wasn't getting the validation. I wasn't getting what the father issues that I didn't work through. Um, it's a long story. Give me one sentence reader, should I just what is it? Uh? Never felt like I was enough in my life. That's that's the self esteem essentially. So then I took him back because I kind of never got that. I wanted to be able to say I forgive, and he was like, you know, I'll never do it again because because in this relationship, I said, you know, I told myself and I've done so much work that I that's not that's not going to happen in this relationship. And so but then he, you know, obviously happened again. And you know, we've discovered more stuff. But I still believe that if you work on things, cheater is not you know, I pray to God it doesn't happen again. But you know, because we have the resources and you've worked on things, we do have two We have a six week old and you have a six week old and a three year Okay, so so you you know that she's cheating before you, and you cheated on her, which keeps the game exciting? Yes it does, Yes, it does. Subconsciously, it does. It's a subconscious thing. It's not unconscious. See, I've never cheated on him, and that's the problem that bothers me. Well, that's why that's subconscious. What do you mean the gate is open? So the thing is you both know neither one of you are clean, and now I'm clean in this relationship, not talking about It's not a relationship to relationship thing. It's a total of your complete, you know, history of relationship. It goes back to subconsciousness. So sub consciousness keeps it, keeps it alive, it keeps it exciting. Yeah, because me excited you, but you took him back. You didn't write because I love him and he's such an ass. I love him and he's such an ass. That's why I took him back. So you're going on tour right now? There's three cities I see, well, okay, damn it, Tory, I see three on here before. Actually I'm going to Richeville, Connecticut, Morristown, New Jersey, which I'm from Jersey, Pennsylvania, which is going to be filling in Pittsburgh. Where can our listeners see like the dates? If you go to Patty Knows with an I patty knows dot com, you can actually buy the tickets. There's v I p ones as well as regular tickets. Will be doing champagne. I'll be asking all your questions asked. So people do they raise their hand? Do they have to buy a specific ticket to get um? No? Actually, the show starts out at the interactive dating relationship show. I comme at kind of like stand up style. Then I bring people up on stage to fix, to fix each other up, picking each other up. I do this whole thing as well as relationship couples like you, somebody's cheated, do I fix that? Somebody proposed once when I did a live tour, and um, it's really interesting. I gave him somebody throughout their engagement ring because they're getting divorced and they propose. I said, I couldn't afford to ring. That's why I couldn't propose, and blah blah blah. He does. And then at the end of the show, anyone can line up around the corner ask me anything. Nothing is off top business love. But I'm psychic, so I people's energy is the biggest skeptic and psychics, so I read people's energy. I'm an astrologer and I can see things that nobody sees, so I can help you withever whatever endeavor you're working on. So did it just come to one? I'm claire audience. I I hear I know, I hear a voice. So I was gonna ask, what's the difference between clear audience and clare voidance. Claire voyant usually senses their audience. Here's I hear of? So you hear dead people? No, I don't see dead people. I see guides and angels. I actually talked to the guide or the angel, or my guide or angel. Sometimes I'll be mine something there's it's not about who is talking to me, it's upstairs information. How did you notice that you had that? Well, I was adopted as a kid, and my family was not into any of this, and they would shove it under the rug. And I would know who's getting a divorced, I would know who's getting pregnant. I would know who's done. I mean, my grandmother was going to die on a very minor surgery, and I begged my mother not to send her to the hospital for hip replacement. She died two weeks two weeks later from anesthesia. So it's like there are little things I saw then. I was always interested in the occult, so I studied with a lot of very famous psychics. I ran the Kenny Kingston Psychic network for four years. I was a practicing psyche in Florida for ten years and I just studied benephysics and then with meditation, I do transliental meditation. It hones my craft. So when you see me on Millionaire Matchmaker and someone's in the hot scene and I'm reading them and I'm breaking them and they're crying and they're freaking at and like Claudia Jordan's said, I saw I put her in the hot scene. She was a friend of mine and I didn't know this. And I said, they're telling me something happened to you at eighteen. You didn't You didn't tell your father. It caused a rift in your relationship. What happened? And she goes, how the hell did you know that? She starts crying, I was raped, Oh gosh, and my father wouldn't believe me. It's like and then we got on the phone and called the father and we healed the situation. So there's good and there's bad stuff that I see UM a lot of times, I know stuff's gonna happen with celebrities and things are going to happen, and you know things like that, How did you turn that into doing like millionaire matchmaker coming from this kind of background. My mom was a matchmaker and so was my grandmother, and so I ran great expectations for like eight years and the oldest dating service, the original match dot com, and um, I really didn't want to do it. I really was just doing it for the cash at the time, and it turned into something I was getting at a credit card dead. I was going to be a screenwriter. I was going to be in the I went to film school. I was like, this is just a side gig. I never thought this would be my main gig. Right, do you do you hear any? Hear anything? Ron Michael birthday? Give me your birthday February Pisces. And when's your birthday? I'm December two. I'm gonna sit you're you're coming up in a really good year. So you've had a terrible three years with Saturn, which was really awful to you. Um, but see, let's see, let's see nine, ten, eleven. Okay, so we're just about to get into Jupiter and your son. You could meet another man, but I'm not going to tell you that on your son. Okay, you could also be tempted. Okay, money is going to be really good for you and I and you and I do see are you getting into something to do with film? Yeah, you're doing something film related and that's going to be really big stepping stone for you. You're gonna Are you buying a new house we're building? Okay, there you go. Okay, Um, third child is possibility at the end of next year, so be careful if you don't want it. I do see pregnancy, as we just said yesterday, right, we think we're two kid family. But I do see you might want to get fixed. You have very sharp sperm. Yes, I do. That's okay. Did you are Do you doing something sports related to Okay, because it's what are we? What do you do now? Yeah? What I play in the NFL? But is there something like a sports product to drink a gadget give makes somebody gave to you and wants to promote it. I see you having some sport it's related product like an informercial thing that's happening in the end of next year. But I would be loved if you have any he said. This is coming from a buddy. A buddy made an invention. That's what they're telling me. Interesting. So keep your buddies, ask your buddies, is anybody your buddies close? But the film thing, it's going to break you. It's going to open your gates because you've been like stagnant and you're like, Okay, I need more, I need more. Um, where are you living right now? Here? Well? What part a city? I see you? Like? Where do you go to the beach? M who has a beach house? No? One, we know again if anyone has a beach house, they'd like to become friends with them. No, there's something like this summer you're going two weeks to a beach house. Because I see a beach house. But it's not like l A. It's it's like a quiet little town. Oh, Michigan. There that's a lake though, that's the same thing. Okay, water. I see you going away and really having a wonderful like the best time you've ever had in your life. And it's peace because you say, like here you in your in your head, you don't have enough peace pieces really important to you, zero piece because you feel very you feel like the organizer of everything. Ye. Yeah, so I feel like that's what happened. But I also feel like, um, you might also get a jewelry offer. You're getting endorsements. You're getting endorsements, and you're going to do some kind of I don't know if it's I can't say it's because I feel like it's supplements or what about girls? For him? Are we good? Is he good? Are we good? This year? Only females in my life are you? And Jolly Baby feel because because she told me I might be tempted, You're gonna be tempted. You're going to meet someone, but you you will realize the temptation. You're not. You're not stupid. You're not stupid. Let's just put it this way. You're not you don't have stupidity in you. Um. He's very sensitive and he's incredibly if you talk to him the wrong way, if you mentioned the wrong thing, that like, if you bring up when you fight. You can never bring up the past to him. Oh my god, you're gonna have to learn to lit it vault it because he's really trying right now, and he knows he's trying. You could pull a little more romance out for her. She's a little bit more romance. She likes date espectually, I'm going to be tempted, and she likes date night. She likes to dress up. You need more dressing up occasions that theater tickets, concert tickets, Kelly Clarkson's coming in January like concert ever? Okay, you want she wants to dress up? Is what I see. She looks at her closet and goes like she wants to buy a nice dress. Is what I'm picking. But else, let me ask if there's anything else that I missed. Okay, hold on one second, you gotta give me a suck. Is he gonna be good to me? He is in work mode. He's in money mode. He's not in He's not in mode. Can I say that on the he's in, he's in, He's in money mode. He wants nice things. He wants a new car. Okay, he doesn't want to drive like an SUV for the rest of his love. I like I see him wanting nice things, like he's looking in catalogs online, like he has this little little wish list. Yes he does. Can I can read? Now? Can I can read? I don't even know that. I don't know you mar a believer. I believe her. I'm not gonna saying I believe every Joe Schmo out there I'm picky bad believe that. Do you see it happily ever after for these two? Well, you can never do that. You only read five years out because things can change. I feel five years together, I feel I just keep seeing that third child. It's a boy too. I don't know why I see a boy another boy? Yeah, like, do you have two girls? What do you have? You have a boy and a girl. Okay, if I see another boy, this boy special. If you get the next one, I'm telling you, he's going to be very artistic, like incredibly like theater, movies, painting, drawing, like, he's super artistic. He's not an athlete. This one will want to make him an athlete. He's not an athlete, and you will love that he's artistic. It's not. He's just I don't start to say no, he's just artistic. I just see an artistic child, like painting and doing like creative stuff with you. You you like to decorate also, I do like to decorate. Yeah, that's your that's your little jam it's peace. Yeah, I do like it. Who's who's the cooker in the family? Okay, alright, you just you just hopped on that so fast? Okay, is this. Are you making a major kitchen, a stellar kitchen we are making beautiful and are you making an outdoor grill patio? Okay, because I see really big parties of you guys having with your friends and cooking. Because I see there's someone's a cooker. They said, do you see a game room with a poker table, because I'm trying to nix that right now. So if you don't see it, then maybe we can nix it out of them. I see you know what I see. I see a foldable poker table where he can take it out and put it away. Yeah, he's not getting his full poker. Now you're you're nixing it. You're you're gonna already have it. I nixed the chairs and what with the interior ladies. All I'm telling me was right now, it's like it's like it's like a game room kind of thing. I say, But it's not going to be what he thinks it is. Let's just put it there. No, I already found that out. It's not going to be let in other words, you're gonna make it cool. He doesn't have cool style. Sorry, you, I'm just telling it like I see it, Patty, where can our listeners find you because you are awesome and I want to I want to know more about we. Just follow me on Instagram at Patti Stangard dot com, Patti stang around Instagram, or with an ie, or go to Patty Knows. Patty Knows. We're doing webinars, We're going on tour. We're here to heal you. So register, get in there and buy the ticket to tell your friends and family. I don't care if you bring your grandmother. I got something for her. I'm amazing you guys. Patty, give it up, thank you, thank you. Uh So. Mark just asked when we were saying by to her, if I was getting annoyed with her? Did you sense my annoyance with her? I think the whole office building sensed your annoyance with her. No, I just want to say I love her. I think she's so sweep in the very beginning. I don't know what it is. I just don't like it when females. I don't like it when you do the high and hold the hair. It's just that's not how I want Jolia to be in front of someone. I wanted to be confident. I want her to stand tall and Tori yes, you're tall, but don't turn into it one of those. So if you don't like me, get out, you know, I mean, you know, I don't know, just be you be confident. I don't don't. Yeah, no, I I definitely took with a grain of salt, being like, if I'm lugging luggage around, sure i can have the guy next to me carry my luggage. Hey, I'm helping her out, but I'm not going to be like And honestly, the to drink maximum made me laugh too, because I was like, I'm like, this is Yeah, you don't like it. I don't believe that. I don't really need alcohol to make me feel comfortable, Like, yeah, pretty pretty comfortable. Who I am? I know, I think, I mean, I understand, you know. Some of it is hard to take not literally because some of the thinks she's saying seemed very literal. I don't think she was speaking in that sense. So I defend that aspect because I think it is more about just playing the game. But which I think the game it's so has changed over the years because of all the social media access to other people, because of the bumbles, tenders and all that stuff. So the game isn't the same. So I think she's still trying to like teach that in a way, teach so you know the girl isn't if she's alpha all day. You know, say someone here, she's tory all day doing her thing, handling business and kicking ass, and then they see her out and she's the same exact way. What's wrong with that? No, I'm saying, where like he doesn't feel like he can do anything for her because it's wrong with that? Why can't Why can't you just love her and love her for who she is? And why do you have to do something you don't? What do you? What do you do for me? You support me? You're my partner? What do you What do you do if you had to do everything? If I didn't make you feel I do do everything? He led yourself into that poot. That was a complete soft talk. But what by me being softer? That doesn't well, I don't understand that. What what would do if I'm if I'm softer? All I'm saying is you still need to allow your man to feel like a man sometimes to be taken care of. Like if you didn't, if you didn't feel anything like that, you opened my door. I'm not just talking about opening door. I'm talking about making you feel secure, making me feel taken care of. Well, that's sure, but I can still be a strong woman, that's it for sure. But I'm saying some of those mentalities out there, there are women that that don't ask her, that don't want that and don't show that they need to be taken care of. Well, if you're just saying I don't want you to do this, and then of course, and yeah, you're being a little hard, soften up a little. But right, that's the whole thing. She went to the extreme. But I think that's the kind of mindset that she's talking about, not to her extent, but well, I ended up liking her. I ended up liking her. So for those of you who are new to the investing world, um, you know, that's one thing I always wanted to get into investing. 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So if that sounds good to you, you can redeem your exclusive code. Download the Mashi Twilight app. Go to settings, register your account and redeem your code. Janna Sleep, j A n A Sleep hurry because this code expires April one. I do have to bring up something because no, no, because I want to talk about it in future podcast episodes. But remember when we had our party at the Pier and the US Weekly girl kind of said, well, she basically brought up, oh, you're not breastfeeding with Jason. I kind of startled and said, I didn't. I didn't say that, remember, And she's like, oh, I thought you said that, you said you want breastfeeding, and you're like, I don't remember not saying that. Yeah, I don't. I don't remember saying anything about it, and finally I said, you know what, fine, I'm gonna go out there and say that I'm not breastfeeding. And so the article was out on US Weekly UM last week and online, and I've had so many people reach out to me on d m S and it's just been really it's been really great. But also again I don't know what it is, and I think it seems to be a bigger conversation on another episode, but it's just really frustrating that I felt, especially moms, have all this pressure to to do it well, all the moms shaming to which is why you know, I want to bring on other women that have been mom shamed to talk about it, because it's just really frustrating. Whether it didn't work for me or doesn't work for other people, or maybe just in general, we didn't want to, but I feel it's almost like we feel like we have to explain ourselves because we're not doing how what we're told we're supposed to do. Yeah, I mean, it's I can't imagine like how that feels. I mean, I think I even from the dad's side of the husband's side is obviously we don't feel it nearly as much as y'all do, but I can. I can still sense that tension a little bit um when pete when it's asked and feeding. No, not not not when it's asked directly to me, but when it's asked to you and I'm there with you, So I can like kind of sense that. And but I also I get like people's not not their reservation around it, but I get why because that's the way humans have done it for so long. So anything other than the way you're biologically created to feed your child, I can see why. It's still a lasting Yeah, um, you know, a lasting thing, lasting stigma. It's just I totally get that. It's just frustrating when women are well. Breast milk is the breast milk is the best and and all the nutrients. I understand that you don't need to tell me something that I don't know, but I also need to explain to you why it's either not working or we're not doing it or we chose not to. So I don't know why we have to feel like we have to explained, just like we can't feel like we can say what we want to say exactly. Ties into the beginning of the episode, No, I was going to say the exact same thing. It's it's true, like why I feel like I have to hide the bottle when I'm in public because people are judging me. I feel judged. But again, this is worrying about. That's why I'm circling back to the top because it's like, it's so frustrating, but we get shamed so many people, so many people about the breast milk. It's like, I get it, Okay, I understand that, and there's a lot of women that physically can't maybe I physically can't do I have to explain to us, to everyone why we're not breastfeeding, but I feel like I have to, and really, you don't want to talk about it here the y. I mean, I have no problem talking about it, but I feel but it also it almost defeats the purpose of why can't it just be okay that we're not Why do we have to always explain our decisions? I agree with you, Yeah, I actually don't even think we should or need to, because then it's like you feel like you have to defend why we're not, and that's the whole that defeats the whole purpose. But I feel like I have to because I feel like I'm getting judged right, but we shouldn't. We we don't. We don't have to do anything. That's the thing. We we have discussed this. You and I are in the same page. We're the only two people that matter and this entire But then someone can say, well, actually the child matters because you're not giving them the proper I get that, And guess what. That's why I say, what's best for you is best for the child. And do you think that people are assuming the worst of you because you're in Hollywood and you have a certain amount of fame. Do you think there's an element there? Yeah, the thing, Oh, she just wants to protect her body or something like that. Which, by the way, if you breastfeed, you lose more weight. So that's that's the argument there. It's it's not about that at all. And you know, I don't know. I just we gotta figure that out. I got to talk to someone about that, you know, acording to Patty, we're going to have like a third child. So if you were dry in next time, were you breastfed? Excuse me, I was not breastfed. I was so was not breast fed. While we turned out pretty great. What I was just going to say, is it clearly it's not the only way to raise a child. Yeah. So I guess I'm saying this to also the moms out there that feel this way too. Let's just not feel like we have to defend our decision. Let's just be the best moms that we are and just be able to say a one word answer response is are you breasting? Nope, but I can't. I'm always well because of this happened, I know. And it's fun because I get the guilt my own mother about it. Really, Yeah, you know I can't have dairy, I think because I wasn't breastfed mom. Honestly, that's fantastic. That is fantastic. Oh. We have some emails and this was the first one. We are like Sarah and Ty don't even know if I want to read it. This is from Megan. No have Margarita, here's your voice plenty. I'm over your boy, Megan says. My husband James and I did it for fifteen years before I got married. Yes, fifteen years, so I know exactly how Sarah feels. I went through all of college, all of grad school knowing we would get married after graduating college. I expected him to propose at every vacation, anniversary or major life event. I was driving myself crazy. Finally, a year and a half ago, while on our way to the beach, he proposed. My advice to Sarah is to try to stop thinking about it, because that's when it will come. It's outrageingly hard to do, but try. But I recently learned my husband would have done it sooner. But he felt a lot of pressure to pick out the right ring. He said he looked at rings for about nine months before finally picking one. I'm not saying Tide doesn't need a solid push in the right direction most men do, but keep in mind as a serious life event for him as well. Megan, kudos to you girl for fifteen years. How do you hang in? I would? I mean you must have been unless you're fifteen when you guys started dating. That's the only exception through all of college, so maybe they were seventy Kudos to her for the fifteen years, not only for sticking out that long, but I make up that her mindset was just, you know what, whether I'm married or not, I'm with the person I wanted to be with, and I'm just gonna live each day like I'm gonna live in the present and just be with him, and I know we're meant to be together and it will happen. Granted that's a long time. Yeah, it's way too long. But I don't know. Maybe I'm not saying that Sarah hasn't, but he knows the like he I hoped t I gets it now, like how much we've talked about this and how much pressure is on him that now at this point, just like you know what, accept it for what it is, and if you love them and you want to be with them, then just keep going. Is there something to that where you can just be like, you know what, I love this person and we're just if end up Goldie Han Kurt rustling it the rest of our lives. If you're okay, If you're okay with it, that's fine. I just don't think people like me and Sarah are okay with that. It's rare that both people would be on the same page for that. It's very rare. I think it's kind of like you can, can you ever really believe if the other person is because people will change their mind, right, and so there'd be people that change their mind and they tell the person, Hey, I want to get married, I want to have kids. Now it's like, no, I got into this because we had the same agreement with the same point of view. So it's like, even if you have that agreement at the beginning, is there leeway to change? Also, how do you bring it up right without putting the pressure on him because he wants it to be a surprise. I was years is not pressure. Six years is not pressure in my opinion, what you mean it's not pressure? You that's expected? Fifteen years, six years, five years? Four years? Been four years? Hey? Kind of five years? I think is the window, like it's time to get off the pot or produce, take a big dumper, get out Janna's windows about three to six months. So that is my window. But if you do bring it up, I feel like it delays things. I feel like if I was dating somebody and they said, hey, we should get married, I feel like even if I was planning and proposing, I can't do it now because it'll seem like I'm just responding to her request. I got to push it off a few months to get it out of her mind. So then every time she brings it up. It's gonna get pushed off farther because you want to blow her mind. You want to surprise, or you want her to cry. You don't want her to be totally expecting it. It's not all about you, guys, it's about us to thank you. Guys overthink as women, though. I totally think you guys overthink it, because especially when the girl is wanting it, she's gonna know, she's going to read an email, she's gonna go through your phone. Did you know? Maybe? Did you know? Maybe? Tell me now, Janna Ray. Maybe I'm just saying, girls, you have you been lying to me this whole? I'm just saying what tor Yeah? I think everyone wants to know. I'm just saying you did you know? I'm not maybe because maybe it's my answer. Maybe it's not an answer, Sure it is. It's my answer changeable. It's either yes or no. Did you have an idea that I was proposing you? I feel like we've had this conversation before. I said, and I said yes or no, and you say I don't. I don't remember. So that's my answer. I don't remember. Where was it? Where did you propose? I proposed? In our in our house, our first house in Nashville on her birthday in front of like thirty people. Oh, it's just a surprise birthday party turned engagement, so you knew you had a feeling. I'm not answering these questions because I don't have to. It's it's time, it's water. There were two kids, we're about to have a third, according to Patty, so like, what's going on? I don't remember. Sweet, youre gonna take this to your grade. I am going to take this one to my grade. Clearly it's a yes, because if it wasn't no, you would just say no. I had no idea. I was shocked. Maybe I don't know, but don't remember. I'm saying girls, no, they have emails, they have phones, They have certain things that they know, and they when they when they're when they're wanting it, they search. We don't care about being surprised. We want the thing ring. We don't care you guys want us to be surprised. We don't give up lying f about being surprised. That's BS. I call BS because you guys want to write Janna Kramer. I heart media dot com. But it's important to have your hair done and your nails done right when you get proposed to let me just say you almost don't want to be surprised. Were my nails done? Yeah? Because it was your birthday and I sent you. And you can't say someone told you because nobody knew. Okay, sweetheart, Well, I didn't tell any of reference. Any portrayal was their email, was their web receipts. She wouldn't have been able to see that stuff. Warmer. She's just flustering me on purpose. Right now. You didn't have any emails going back and forth with the jeweler that I might have read everything? Why did you cry? Did you play it up vague? Like here, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I might be making that up. I don't know. She's she's an actress totally. She's totally making up because we literally, no, we're not knowing this. We literally we got in a fight, a huge fight, not uh soon before that, because I told her. I was like, look, she gave me the whole. I don't want to play house with you like I want to ring. I want to start a family x Y and Z and I told her at the time I started my house in Baltimore so I owned that house. We just bought this house together fifty and I'm like, I gotta wait for my Baltimore house to sell, like I don't want to strap myself financially. And she didn't really care about that. She's like, well, I want to ring, but if it's done so for five years. Well, because this guy thinks his house is going to sell tomorrow. How like you have to be more realistic as he's like, well, if it takes five years. So that's when we got into the fight was because I said I don't want to wait five years. Too bad, honey. Clearly I didn't have to because we're not even five years. We haven't even know each other for five years. Yes we have. It won't be five years. It won't be five years till this summer. Well, lucky me. Would you like to know the truth? Yeah? Anyways, that I Heart Radio Podcast Awards presented my Capital One or Just around the Corner and Capital one wants to give you the chance to get the coolest look at the nominees joined me on Thursday, January seventeenth at the Capital One Cafe and Glendale for an amazing lineup of podcast panelists, including myself, Holly Fry of Stuff You Missed in History Class, and Jake Brennan of Disgraceland. The panel be hosted by Tanya rad My faiths to rs VP for your chance to attend, visit I Heart radio dot com slash Capital one. Space is limited. You do not want to miss at Capital one. Welcome to banking reimagine. Vote for me, not for Janna. I think you can do that. Find a where be creative bunny. Did you know Oh my gosh, Michael, I didn't know what day that. I don't believe that because your birthday. We made this big thing out of your birthday and you're like, oh, you didn't suspect it to be your birthday with all the stuff. Okay, would you like to know the truth? Are you going to be mad at me? Okay? So I read your email, But the email that I've read from the jeweler was that it was it was stamp Why are you looking sad? Please? It was stamp marked in November, okay. And the email that I read was that you couldn't get the ring. So I did not think I knew that you were working on it. But then I stopped myself. I said okay, because you said that you were going to do it by one weekend and then the email and didn't happen. So I knew that you were working on it, but that you didn't have the ring. So that's that's what I knew. But I didn't know when I had a suspicion it was maybe on my birthday since we were we were making it such a big thing. But then I also didn't know because when I saw the surprise party, as like, God, there's no way he's doing it here with the surprise party. So I did not know the date, but I knew you were working on it because I did look at your email. So I was surprised, and I'm glad I was surprised, and I am glad that I didn't go back on your email to see if you purchased the ring a month later. Fair. That's the honest to God, Ruth. All right, thanks for running down everybody, big thank you to sleep number of his sleep number dot com. Slash Janna to find the one nearest Zola to start your free wedding website and also get a fifty dollars off your registery En Zola. Go to zola dot com slash Janna robin Hood. Remember robin Hood is giving listeners a free stock like Apple, Fort or Sprint to help build your portfolio. Sign up at wind down dot robin hood dot com Master Twilight, register your account and redeem your code wind down Sleep, and make sure to email us and share your thoughts with the wine down crew at Janna Craneer. I heart media dot com. 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