Keeping Up with the Vanderpumps

Published Mar 6, 2023, 6:13 PM

Jana and her queendom have a LOT of drama to get into! We break down everything with Tom and Raquel and Ariana from Vanderpump Rules, and if it's okay to have plastic surgery at 77 years old! 

And, what do you do when you run into an ex?? Do you hug or ignore??

Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Apologies for those listening. It's a how do we say? Joe certifiable? This might be our biggest show moment and we've had a lot so for him for me to move this one up to the top of the ranks. It's Sunday, you guys are listening to this now, Monday, the day before. Usually we record like the middle of the week, yeah, for a next week's episode, but I was in England, so I was like, well, let's just do it on Sunday. And there we are. She just got back from a cheer competition, which is this her last one? No, she's got one more. It's never her last never. Yeah, this was yeah. No, I'm just tired my brain. Cheer captain cat is what I'm gonna start calling your mom? Oh I had my cheer mom, Captain. I'm gonna scrimp anyway, Um, what about y'all? And then Kristen was just out of breath from existing where you'd like a birthday party or what were you doing? It? Just a little family hangout. I feel like I haven't seen anyone. Yeah, do you feel that? Like? You guys? It was like New Year's Eve and then all of a sudden, it's March, and I'm just a little confused how that happened, and all I just I just haven't seen conversation with my husband. It's weird. But at the same time, I just it's it's there's so much it's hard to I know, it was so sincere, I really feel it. But also when Kristen was coming to the house, one of my neighbor's dogs like ran into the house and then I was on a street with a two year old and she's like, what happened? It was like an episode of like Doctor Doolittle or something. There was like there was like dogs running everywhere, and then there's a baby in a stroller in the middle of the street and you're just next to it. And I was like, hmmmily, there's circumstances around this. I just don't know what they are. But to that point is I haven't seen such a sweet I love this girl in my neighborhood. And I said some thing to another neighbor the other day when so we had a showing at the house and I was like, well, I don't want to leave this only thirty minutes. So we just were like driving around. When we went to drive, we drove to go see the new house, but then like Juliet to Peace and then we drove back and so we stopped at Pam's house to use the restroom and then but I saw like one of our neighbors and I'm like, oh, he's like, I feel like I haven't seen you all. I was like, yeah, I'll see you in summer, because that's like besides that, I mean, I feel like it's hard to see anybody. Yeah, it's hard. And it's a pretty day today. Say, people are out, people are out. I know we all come out of hibernation in Tennessee, Yes we do. So Hello, welcome to wine. Now that we've just word vomited all over you about our lives, I think it's going to be a good week, though, I'm projecting a great week. Having said that, I feel like a weather forecast. I feel like you're on a green screen. Guy that from copy that? Can I tell them the copy that? Sure? I really like, I know I say it on sets like a copy that or can't work stuff you guys. I literally was here for like five minutes and I looked at Kat and I was like if we played a drinking game for every time I heard the words copy that. Since I got here, I'm really from you for sure, not all of us, just you. I hear mom, I'm going Pete, and then I'll hear is Kramer go copy that. I was like, she just copied that dirt four year old seven? But oh I didn't know which one it was. Well, you still copied that to your seven year old? Copy that copy that. I don't know why I say that. It's almost like a different way of saying okay, I don't know, that is what it is. It's almost like saying I heard you and I understand that. Yeah, yeah, Actually thoughts with Jane Kramer? Did you have a pop brownie for your love you guys? So she came in, I'm loving this Okay, oh god, It's like, okay, I heard you that. Yeah I do, I really do. It's like it's fine. I like it. I feel like on sets, I like saying it because I don't know. So I'm like, okay, I don't know, okay, just seems a little dismissive. Maybe with the tone. Maybe I don't know, Okay, yeah, just okay. So it's like I be that like acknowledging and I got it, sir yeah or ma'am where the director is Yes, I started noticing it on set. Only used to do it, and I agree with you because or it's like, okay, got it, but like that kind of sounds a little oh okay, I got it. That's four Oh boy, okay, got it? Copy? Oh so I go about okay, okay, isn't it fair? Okay? Got it? Yeah? Yeah. So it's like four syllables verse gotty that you guys copy that three? Okay? You beat me by one? Gy if I just say everybody okay yeah o K though you just I mean, I don't say K and I never say love you. I always say I love you. Fun fact you'll never see me say so. I think there was a meme that was going around that said it takes less than a second to add the eye before I love you, and the meaning behind it's saying I love you versus I love you. It matters to me so much. Oh, I'm to think about that every time I tell you I love you? Now, Oh, do with an eye? Can't you? I don't know? So I agree, I never do it without it, but it's only I don't only with a relationship. Do I care about the eye? If I was doing it for you, I'd be like, love you, Yeah, I do my friend, Yeah, love you. Oh I need do for you because I know now, I know yeah this whole time because I'm like love you no, but I'll never say that to you. Oh that's what I need. Yeah, Okay, you guys. When the soft light goes out, it's like last call at the bar. It's really tragic of a sudden anything at the bar. Okay. So we have a another hot topics episode that I'm going to get to. But I have a hot topic that I want to talk about, and I feel like, Kat, we need to how do I say this? Let's teeter all a lot of the details. And so when I was thinking, I'm like, okay, how do I have this conversation, something happened. I'm not going to say when Okay, guys, I feel scared. You feel scared? Oh don't. It's really not scary. Okay, but okay, okay. So an incident happened and it brought up a really good topic. Katherine and I were together at something and I wasn't there, so I already dislike it. And a topic came up in my mind that I go, huh, I wonder what would what would you do? What Catherine do? Also what would christ and do? What would you do? And just like what would you do? So at something? And there was a someone that I had dated was there as well. Now it wasn't a boyfriend, it was just a couple of months dating history, someone that I had been dating again like two two months ish two months into well, and I was like, you know, actually hanging out right, so fair, Yeah, that touche. I have my best podcast, my favorite one so far. So but how it fizzled was it was kind of, um, I saw an ugly side of this person, and it was the person said a lot of not nice things, especially when intoxicated, and I was just and normally like I can end a let's say courtship. I's call that one a courtship with respect and walking away and going, you know what, we just weren't right for each other, right, So but I always will like be kosher and be kind and you know, try to like because I don't. We said something the other day another podcast where yes, I think I was like friends with my exes back in the past, but I really am not friends with any maxes now, but I will be nice if I see them at of course, yeah I would be too. Yeah, so it's I'm not I don't know why I held on and was friends with my exes in my twenties. I don't know if that was something that I was that I needed to still have a slight validation of something. I don't know I did that, did you in twenties? Yeah, the twenty year old version of me was doing a lot of things. The forty ye old version of me is like, ah, girl, yeah, yeah, so I don't Yeah. So again, I don't think I like need to like have like be super friendly. But I would also if I was to see an X, I would hug them because maybe some like if I saw like my highlol sweetheart, like yeah, i'd be like, oh, like I probably give them up a hug or something. Maybe I don't, And I as a lot of times I'll hug people because I don't want them, like I because I'm uncomfortable. So it's like a people pleasing to you. That makes sense. Well you kind of hug everybody too, yeah, like you're a hugger. Yeah, I'm a hugger for sure. But even when I don't really want to hug someone, I will still do it because I don't want to hurt their feelings or have any awkward like well it does break that ye yeah, like hey, yeah, you know what I mean. Like I mean, I have hug Mike. I don't want to. He doesn't hug me. I'd probably want to hug him, but like, hey, half whatever. But this was the first time I saw somebody and they kind of went in for it and I just kept walking and I just said hi, and I wasn't rude with my high and the person said something. But also I think any time before that, I would have stopped and like hugged the person. Even if they said all the mean things like this person did, I still probably would have hugged. But it's what I was like, I don't actually want to hug you, nor do I need to. And I like this yeah a lot. I really like this. So I'm curious what you guys would do in that situation. Would you hug for the uncomfortable part of it or would you just keep walking straight? Because I was also I was kind of in a rush to get somewhere. I have something, and then I also had this happened to me or an X ran into my one of my husband's exes ran into him copy what not? Copied, uncopy, uncopy, uncopy and unpaced. M we. I was in a situation where an ex of my husband ran into him with and I was there and she came in big bear, huggy, oh yeah, and I was like, this is where the Detroit sneaks out. So I don't hug unless I want to, which makes a lot of people feel great. I'm sure because I hug a lot of people. But if I don't, like if it's if you're in that category, you're in that category, I don't hug you, got it. Yeah. I didn't hug someone we both know the other day and I hadn't seen that person in a long time, ming I didn't. I yeah, okay, And I'm a huggy girl, right cap No, well, I actually hug more than you think for like that uncomfortable like first meeting, like I'll hug not in that situation. No, no, hug. I'm really proud of all of us because I think that's just like a very like it's very in alignment your actions and your words and your mind are all matching if you continue to be that way. But also think about it on the other foot, I don't want my husband hugging. I didn't want my husband, but I don't want him doing it either. I thought the big bear hug in this situation that I was in was extremely disrespectful. M Yeah, And I think to that point too, I kind of walked away from it going I liked the fact that regardless, I was still in the back of my mind like I want to respect my boyfriend. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, So that felt good too, too, like because obviously I told him about the situation because I also want, you know, just like, hey, heads up, you know, yeah x X whatever not X, but you know what I'm saying, like him, um, And you know, I just I think it's I liked that. I'm like, oh wait, I don't have to hug people just because it makes them feel less uncomble. Right. So when the person then texts as well, I've bean like, great seeing you. I'm not texting you back. So this may be this may be too much, but I just got to toss it. We have a really big rule about this in our house for our kids. Oh what a lot of people say that we don't. We do not do hugs. You don't have to hug anybody, you don't feel like hugging grandparents, uncles, We don't do that. I've read a lot about this, like, oh, tell me more, I know nothing. Yeah, I'm like really super strict about this. Oh my gosh, tell me because I'm always give them a hug, goodbye, give them a hugbye. I think honor bodies. Yeah, we just honor our bodies. So like love doesn't Love and Legend don't see their grandparents a ton wow, and so we don't. There's times where it's like it's more for the adult to feel better than it is for the kid, and I just won't do that. So I'm like I'll say to love, like you know, like I'm always we always have eye contact, we always say goodbye. We always say like thanks for coming, because I want them to be respectful. But they do not owe them to hug or any part of their body. Yeah. I like that, Okay, And I'm really passionate about this. And it's actually was a tiny tiff and at our house because Preston grew up in a different way where it was like you hugging kiss everybody. I did too. I just didn't like how I felt when I was forced to do those things. You mean, like at Christmas time when you had to like hug every single Yeah, thanks for the fifty dollars gift car fifty dollars um. Yeah. So I when we had we had a family member leaving one time and Preston was like, gohn, give him a hug, and I was like, oh no, we don't have to do that. So she could give a high five or a fist bump if she wants to, or she can just say thanks for coming, and that's okay too. I see. I have a hard time with that. Okay, like he did too. Well. I say that like I want to be that way because I see my kids being uncomfortable when they're told to give a hug um. But I have a hard time like staying up to that, you know, like my father and or someone would be like, hey, go give a hook and I have a hard time being like no, no, no, we don't. And so I just kind of like, and I can see that they're uncomfortable, which I hate. Yeah, And I'm like, if you don't want to uncofortable. Don't ask a five year old for hug when you don't see him enough. Yeah, I'm pretty cut through it when it comes. Yea, I was better at it. I like it. I see again, I just go to the like I just want everyone to not feel not loved or something. Yeah, I mean I want him to feel loved. But I'm also just like, you can't have a there's a relationship, you know, Like I remember knowing what it felt like to hug somebody I loved, you know, like I watch my kids hug their babysitters, hug certain people in our family if they feel like they see them enough. But if there's other people that doesn't feel connective, then they don't owe anybody a hug. Yeah, like that I do. Yep, it's really something. Well, I will tell you at this because we're about to take a break. I'll tell you who it was like when I have a guess you do, M can't wait. I wouldn't hug him either. Let's take a break and then we've got a hot, hot topic that I need a lot of help on this one. Okay, So I you guys, I love I love love love my podcast. We love our podcast. Producers, having said that sometimes these hot topics, I'm like, I feel like I'm under a rock because I don't watch Bravo, and all I have seen on my feeds is this Bravo somebody cheated somebody, and so there's I'm like, well, there's a hot topic in there somewhere, right, because it's an evolving cheating. So we're gonna get Jackie on and she's gonna fill us in so for all those people that don't know. But then I have something else on the side that I kind of want to talk about because it just feels like this is just so like yucky. Well it seems messy and complicated, Like I needed a whiteboard because people are dating people, were married to people and then they're not, and so I just need someone to lay it all out for me. Jackie, whiteboard it for us. Get in here with your power point presentation. Okay, I no, right, I should have a white board. It is confusing, it is messy. This is huge news for Bravo fans, especially if you watch vander Pump Rules. So the main couple is Arianomattox and Tom Standivall. They are the stable couple of the show. Wait, so Arianna and Tom are married. No, they're not married. They've been together for nine years. They have a house together. Okay, arian Arianna Tom no kids, nine years, no kids. They're considered the stable that's there. And I can tell you sand of all. Let me because there's another Tom involved. Tom Toms are always confusing yet Okay, Now the other player in this whole mess. Her name is Rickel Riquet. Can I just say something really fast? There was a Raquel in my high school once they were last name, because you know, I again, I don't want to quit because a lot of them, Raquel was not She was the popular girl and she was not nice girl. So is she the Is she not a nice girl in this situation? She's really nice, She's really like sweet, comes off innocent, if not innocent. So she came on the show because she was engaged to James Kennedy, who was a cast member of the British DJ that's on the show, James Kennedy from E that's Jason. That's Jason. Yeah, that's Jason. That's that's my pop culture. So Raquel and James Kennedy were engaged for five years. They broke off their engagement last year. That's season nine of Bander Pump Roules. Okay, Okay, So the whole mess is that Raquel and Tom Sandobal have been having an affair for the past six months. Wait, and that's the one that's that's the one that's with Arianna. Yes, Arianna Stable. Yes, And so the whole thing is so in season ten that is currently airing on Bravo, there is another Tom who she supposedly has a crush on. That is a plot line. Raquel. Yes, Raquel has a crush on Tom Schwartz, who is Tom Sandoval's business partner. They own a bar in Um. They'll spe this in La And so everybody's seeing how this crush pans out because Tom Tom Schwartz just got divorced from Katie, who is on the show as well, and so they got married on the show like a while ago, and so Katie's newly divorced, and so Raquel is entering that relationship because they're newly divorced, and Katie asked Tom Schwartz not took up with anybody in our friend group, and then supposedly he made out with Hell during the filming of the current season, but really that was a facade because Raquel was really hooking up with Tom band of all that never really Arianna. We don't know yet because I haven't seen it. But right now, like there's only like three or four episodes in right, Okay, why is this giving anxiety right now? Tom? She had two times supposedly, but there was rumors from last Coachella April twenty twenty two that Raquel was making out that Tom. Supposedly they it was Tom Standiwal, but people said it was Tom Schwartz to cover that Tom Standiville is supposedly making out with her. A've done Arianna, like I want to like? So yes, There's been several social media posts. The cast has been very active on social media about whose side they're on. Everybody is rallying behind Arianna. Former cast members Kristen Dody posted that she was at her house. Other cast members Sheena, who is friends with Raquel m posted that she's team Arianna. So everybody is team Arianna. Isn't Laala Kent? Is she on the show? Lala Kent is going she is going off on Tom Sandoval and Arianna, I mean a Tom Standival and Raquel because Laala Kent Since the beginning, since Raquel joined the show, was very like called her a bambidide b and like was very rude to her and calling her out. And then she's also been very like she doesn't like Tom Sandoval, you know, she thinks he's thirsty and all that stuff. And now she's coming around saying I was right, I was right. So she's been very active. James Kennedy, who's dating somebody else now, is very active on social media. So there's all these things coming out on social media about these two because everybody is team Arianna now. Tom Standival this morning posted an apology, but he said, like, can I hear his apology? Because I love to like dissect a man's apology. Wait, can we practice before you go into the apology? I do know this much. Yes, Tom didn't tell Arianna. She found out. No, she found out that matters. She found out because he is in a band, a cover band, and he was at a show on was it Wednesday night, Wednesday or Thursday night? Tom Sandoval's phone fell out of his pocket. Arianna picked it up and she found videos that were sexually explicit from Raquel and texts from Raquel that was going back six months ago. So That's how Arianna found out, and then Tom Sandoval came quean to her, and then Raquel What's on Watch what Happens Live last week with Shena, another cast member, and then that's when things went down, found out, and then Shena and Raquel supposedly got on an altercation. Supposedly people are saying that Sheena punched her. We don't come gome violence in any way, but that's what's being said around the internet. I don't know if it's true, it's rumored, so um. But Shena has since then came out and said she was team marian and stopped following Raquel on Instagram. Okay, so then Tom is guilty as charged. Wait before we reach Tom's too though, has Raquel said anything? No, No, she just lay silent. Yeah. Ariana deactivated her Instagram account. Yeah, part and exactly. So it's extremely messy because there's two Toms involved. And then again Tom Schwartz and Tom Standival have a business called Schwartz and Sandy's, which is a new bar that they're opening or they just opened, and on the show you see the opening, like getting ready for the opening and all that. So can I just ask say one thing is there is there a piece of any of this that you're like, is this just made up for the fact that it's just a Bravo TV show? I know that's what. And Bravo also picked up their cameras and started filming. So isn't it money? Yeah, because it'd be interesting to see how radians were before and after the Devil Tom scandal. Yes, everyone's talking about it. Season ten is airing, so they're thinking that season ten is gonna continue with this drama. Andy already tweeted like how many reunion parts can we get, you know, for all this? So I'm not sure, Like I really everybody seems really upset, So I think maybe it's I think it's real because that's the thing where I feel like a lot of these because you know, many people do reality TV shows. Yeah, there's obviously going to be drama, but there's a lot like hey say this, or let's let's cloud this storyline. Like even when we did that little thing, it's like, all right, try to get them to talk about this, which then called And so I'm like, I'm sure things happen, and obviously it's the only thing that just feels a little ironic or something. That is the fact that to me, and again this is maybe not all cheaters do this, but my X was very good at maybe changing the name in the phone. So if there was a if he put Raquel in there and then put those messages, I mean, that's just sloppy cheating number one. But number two, Yeah, it's like but also that just seems a little convenient that that's like her name was in the phone. But I'm gosh, I mean, I would I would hope that wasn't because I'd hate when people I mean the fact that like Ariana's you know, got got hurt and anyone's hurting. But at the same time, I wouldn't put it past anybody to have it to cheat. Unfortunately, there's like so much information coming out from every everywhere, Like people are saying, I was at Tom's show last night. People were screaming arian his name because on Saturday or Friday night or Saturday night he had a show for his own cover band in Orange County, and so there's just so much information coming out about it. I think, I don't know, it's a lot like it's like for Bravo fans are like minds are blown Okay, okay, what a Tom's Okay, here we go, word of Tom. Hey, I fully understand and deserve your anger and disappointment towards me, but please leave Schwartz, my friends, and family out of the situation. Schwartz specifically only found out about this very recently and most definitely did not condone my actions. This was a very personal thing. Also, Schwartz and Sandies. That's the name of the bar that they owned together. I might have a name on it, but also there are three other partners and twenty employees who especially rely on the restaurant for income for them and their families, just like Tom Tom, which is another bar that they did together with Lisa Vanderpump. I am a small part of a much bigger thing. Please direct your anger towards me and not them. They did nothing wrong. I'm so sorry that my partners, Greg Brett and Schwartz, and our employees have to suffer for my actions. I will be taking a step back and taking a hiatus out of respect for my employees and partners. I need some time to address everything else. Sorry for everything. Did Rackel did Raquel name the bar Tom Tom? Because that seems like something she's into interesting. That makes me feel like it's real. Yeah, that makes me definitely feel like it's real. People are responding, the castmates are responding, say what about Ariana? No, sorry to Arianna. That's where I'm at. Yeah, I know it's terrible. You know. It's interesting though, from that apology, I almost like the fact that he hopefully he's doing an internal apology and not just doing the blanket like I'm so sorry for hurting you, because he needs to be saying that to her and not because a lot of the times when you see those Tristan or the whatever Levine apologies, they're like, they don't really. The only one that really did it good was Timberlakes. He's like, I hurt her, and you know, he like really empathized with her pain, and and everybody else is like, I'm just so sorry. I loved you so much. I hate the public apologies honestly. I mean, I get why they have to do them, but I hate him. Yeah, I would have just like some mention of her like I am handling my relationship with Arianna and I have got you know whatever. It's yeah, his business. Yeah, that's a little yeah. Yeah, And he's like and free beers on Friday night. Yeah, is this guy talking? Don't let this suffer? And maybe he's not sorry for the affair, maybe he's not whatever, who knows, and maybe that is his concern right now. I get that, but it seems very said that. I mean, I just I keep thinking back to like, you know you were on I mean, that's I mean shot with my ex. We were filming a reality show when he was cheating. I'm like, don't you know that stuff's gonna come out? I just don't think always comes out. I just don't think they think. Yeah, I truly don't think that they're thinking. They're thinking with their and for once, like can a guy just I would have so much more respect if a man came and said, I dub yes, I'm so sorry I and whether you stay with me or not, Like it's the discovery is the worst part because you can't trust anything they say moving forward. That's why it's like when a cheater whatever, like, how are you ever going to trust them again? They didn't tell you? So. Was Raquel and Ariana friends as well? Yes, they were friends. She was closer to Shena on the show, but they were friends because member. Yeah. Yeah, they're all cast members and um, there was even so people are now going back to like Tom Sandovald's interviews and Raquel's interviews and recently on Watch What Happens Live, Andy ass which Tom do you think is more attractive? Tom Sandoval Tom Schwartz And then she answered Tom Sandoal So, like people are dissecting this and there's like Reddit saying that they're in love, that he's been wanting to read. Um, he's been wanting to leave Arianna. This is all like stuff online, So I don't know if it's true. Yeah, we don't give any credit to that here on the wind Down podcast. Yeah, well, you know I would just say to Ariana better. I mean nine years so it's so hard, but I just hate that she's hurting and whatever. Everyone else needs to figure out, Like, I hope they all do their internal work to figure out why they've went that path instead of doing it better. We all make mistakes, but hopefully they can look in how hard man with how public it is so public, that's what I was just thinking. It hurts me. I mean, they don't have a choice. It's just so public, and people think are so emotionally invested, like Jackie, Oh my gosh, everybody's invested, and I just and even like on our podcast producers text, we're all just like what is going on? But yeah, because it is a reality show. They're part of a reality show that people have been watching their relationship. We watched from the beginning of their relationship, are on and tom of them getting together, and so I think a lot of people have watched them grow and go through things together. So I think it's like a relationship you almost feel like you're a part of because you've seen the growth with them. They bought a house together, and they fell in love on the show and all that. So you're just kind of like, well, like my friends, I've been watching for nine years on a reality show and now they're broken up, and then you feel for it. Yeah, that's sad. That's where I always go with, you know, because we've obviously have filmed those little teasers and stuff for reality stuff for reality shows, and a part of it, Yeah, it would be already show because I feel like social media, our phones are our own private reality story reality show, right, So, but this is like a whole different level. So I often wonder, you know, as fun as it would be to have all of us like we did like a show. How scary the flip side of that is to be so dissected and then when the drama happens, it's like but and having said all that, though, I mean, then you look at the Kardashians and they've found a way to just block out the negative noises and the things that I think the key is the executive producer or the producer piece of it, because you still the reality TV moment I had was not a nurturing, loving one because I literally signed like one hundred and sixty pages that was just like edit me anyway you want to, and also you could kill me. It's not your fault. And I was like XO xo, you know, like I can't wait. Yeah. The problem is, though, is you're still getting doesn't matter if you have a little bit of control over it. They are still going to dissect every little thing. And you have full control over what you put on social media. Yeah, that's just the thing that So are we going to start our own online social media reality TV show? Yep? Okay, maybe you and you are my participating players, not me anymore, because that's terrifying. No, I mean it's scary. I just hate anybody that has to do any of this publicly. I felt that way about Ukramer the entire time, like it's just it's not fair. It's all of that is heartbreak anyways. I mean, even if say all of this is scripted, all of it's a big setup blah la lah, like there's still your character is being just drug through the mud either way, you know, and you've got and then you've got people pitying you and you guys like it's it's just no wonder like silent the social media try out yourself sister, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I shoot, I remember the I wrote this down and something that you'll read one day. But it was the because you guys had told me not to put Instagram on for a minute, like after I filed, but of course I looked, because if the anxiety almost felt worse to like not look at it, and then you see all these things with like our picture with like the heart through it and like the it's just like you're just the anxiety. The like of all of that was the worst feeling in the world. But yeah, I feel for that's crap. I hate to pick a team, but Bye Tom, Bye Tom Tom, Bye Double Tom. I agree. I actually kind of feel bad for the other time. Literally, can the poor Tom, poor Tom shorts? The other Tom was use a facade. So yeah, he's like, He's like, I just gotten a divorce. I thought I had a hot girlfriend. She's making out with my best friend and partner. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go team Arian on this one too. And if you need advice on how to get over a cheater, slide into my DMS. Yeah, got you, girl, Actually just grab a copy of that's coming soon. Can we move on to something lighter? Yeah? What would you like to move on to? I like to move on to Bette Miller's finally coming out that she tailored her face. Hey girl, Hey girl, girl, come on now, we already knew. Would she say? Is she saying she just now? I think she just admitted that. Like the focus star got candid about her seemingly ageless appearance during her acceptance speech to the Costume Designs Designer's Guild. Monday Night Time has a way of smoothing everyth out, the seventy seven year old joked while accepting Distinguished Collaborator Award. I've been at it for close to sixty years, and I do look fabulous, I know, she joked, as the crowd cheered, I've been I've had some tailoring done on my face. I'm using that phrase speculation. The singer had previously gone a facelifter botox. Miller has been mum on the matter until not until now. I just like it when everybody can. I think it's fair to say what you've done. I'm very loud and proud about my botox, my all my injections, because I don't think it's fair to sit back like I have a lot of girls in my hometown. They're like, oh you're you know, like you look so pretty or you're this was like, first of all, it was a red carpet, I'm spray tanned. You know, I have a corset on and I have spanks, double spanks this last time because I had to hide a little secret guest. And then you know it's like I'm so I just I don't know. I guess it's part of in my brain, like playing fair for females, Like am I making any sense? I don't think it's fair to be like, oh yeah, I just age gracefully, or you know, like I have good genetics. My mom is super pretty and doesn't look our age. My grandma doesn't look our age. But I'm also botoxy and the shi t out of my face like and I'm I say that because I don't think it's fair for anybody to compare themselves and not know the tools that are being used. Yeah, I agree with you, but at the same time, I agree with you, and if that were me, I would tell everybody. But at the same time, it's their body, it's their choice, and I also feel like it's kind of their choice whether they want to tell people or not. I don't know once you're in public. Oh well, I think it's the thing is I think it's kind of obvious too, like when you look at like a madonna, like you know that certain people have gotten work done, and I hate that we have to be made to feel bad that we have gotten worked one or like, oh look how much their face has changed. It's like, you know, guy can go wrinkly until they're eighty and look like Harrison forty is a very track of man or Kevin Costner, but a woman can't be like you know, I remember they used to talk about Nicole Kidman not being able to move her face. Well, I hope they say that about me behind my back that Kristen brush. She can barely move her face. That's right, and you could too. I think there's ways of slowing the process down. Now. I think sometimes women may might do it where it may might make them look older too. I want to have the middle ground where you know, yeah, I do botox. I don't do it every three months. I do like every like five to six, so, like you know, twice a year, just to whatever, just to help slow down the process. Lit. My mom has never done botox once in her life. She's so cute and she doesn't have like a barely wrinkle. But like you said, I just slowing down. Having said that, it is something where I noticed when I was smiling, how wrinkly and then like that, you know, when your eyelids start to get and so I think there's things like those eyelid surgeries. Now, I just think there's a balance if you want to do it great, yes, absolutely, Now I don't know that I could be on the extreme side of things, But I also think there can be like a healthy balance. Having said all of that, I am having an issue with so I've been really deep diving. I love Bethany Frankel. I've just been like in such a deep dive and she's been doing a unfilter follow and so for the last three days, I've made myself not do a filter on my stories, and it's it plays with your mind so much because I've been so used to and I haven't. I haven't used like the real extreme ones like the one that I used kind of makes your lips a teeny bit bigger, you know, and like one that's like syringe will too. I just I'm not there. I don't I don't think. I don't know. Maybe when I'm older, I might touch my lips. But I've only ever done botox. That's it. It's only I'm obviously my boobs. That's they're o hey girls, Hey girls. But with everything else and so so the filters. It's just it makes me feel sad because I'm like, man, like, I would never I keep going back to Jolie. I would never want her to filter her face on Instagram, and I'm like, here's her mom filtering her face. And I've just I've loved watching what Bethany's done. Now I'm not ready to say I'm never going to filter myself, right, So that's why I haven't done it. But I'm trying to like just not do it as much. So maybe I went back to the nineteen eighty seven one where it doesn't change your face, just gives you a slight tan eighty seven. Yeah, so I've I've I'm like, maybe I'm just gonna go back to that because that one just gives you a little little a little bronze. Okay, so I've been doing something. Okay, I don't do my videos on Instagram first. I only do them on my camera first, and that'll keep you from filtering it. Yeah, that's smart. So I just posted this one of Love and I the other day and she had bunny ears on and I have about nine thousand wrinkles in my forehead because I haven't votoxed and because you know, you can't do that when you're pregnant, and I can't wait to just swing through on the way home from the hospital I get injected. But I was like, I don't want to. I almost didn't post it, and it was so cute of her, and I was like, you know what, this is just reality, and I'm just going to do it. Yeah, so I didn't do I didn't even paris it. I did New York on it at the swipepee to make it look a little greeny in old school. But is it's it's it's like my challenge though. I will say it's like a few things that I having something I don't look cute. I would have felt cute if I did the filter, and I'm like, that's so messed up. I know. That's why I had to stop, because then I was being hard on myself. Yeah, like I like a false reality, yeah, even for yourself, which gets weird and really kind of crazy. And I was like, I'm not doing this to me anymore. Like you guys, we all look good and we're healthy, you know, like we're trying. So it were so picked up part, and then you see all these other people using these filters that I'm like, this is that really what they look like? And then I go I'm like, WHOA, Like that looks nothing. I just had this conversation about weight and the weight loss drug that's running rampant, like all over the place. Everyone's getting these shots of this, the diabetic medicine that is making everybody super tiny, and I had this conversation with a girlfriend the other day. I was like, man, that just it feels like an unfair race, you know, like it feels like because your kins on that one. But yeah, me too, because I don't think it's good for your body if you don't need that medicine plus all the other things, like people that need it have a hard time getting it. But you know, like we have to walk carpets with people that aren't playing the same aren't racing the same race as us. I already walk carpets as an older wife, which is crazy at forty, but at forty, I'm one of the older ones, and now I'm the one. It's like working out five times a week and I'm not doing any of these not saying other wives there are, but I'm just saying, like, if you're in these public places, I don't know who is and who isn't. But I know everyone is rapidly shrinking lately, everyone, I mean, from LA to New York and everybody in between. But what makes me sad about that whole conversation. You just compared yourself to people for five minutes older, shrinking small, Like whatever happened everyone being different sizes? I know different ages like that, honestly, but it's so angry. It's the pick apart piece, right because like when you're working yourself apart. No, but like on a I think I look great on a carpet because so the skinnier, the younger, whatever. And it's but I also just I'm so proud of my body because it's a healthy body. I workt really hard. And yeah, I mean I hear you. I just hate hearing people. But like you are older, you are forty, I know, but it's weird to be in all of that. I don't know, it's just crazy. That's I get. I'm not on red carpet, so I I understand that that's a different Well. They just wouldn't know how old I am. You know, it doesn't matter. All I'm saying is Bet Middler finally freaking said it. Thank you. We need you to say it. It's like we didn't. But why did she have to say it? That's the thing too, It's like kind of what I think what Cat said. It's like, you don't we Harrison Ford is not to say like like I look amazing with my wrinkles. It's like, who, like let people age however they want to age right? And why did we have to always mention the girls, how we age the women. It's just such a comparison thing that just makes you. It's it's always back to that comparison. It's like we're always it's the filter, it's everything you always comparing ourselves. But we're doing it to ourselves. We are literally doing But it's because it's, as I'm saying, because it's there and it's able to like one one click left, I have this really pretty thinner nose, a bigger lip, and like a nice like makeup thing. I understand I've stopped now trying to do is I'm like, okay, I am me, this is that's not what I look like. Let's okay, filter in the public eye. Do you truly and answer this, like, if you post the same video twice, are you going to get one? Are you going to get people texting or messaging back saying you look ugly in this video? I because I see what the other one looks like. I look prettier in the filtered But you're saying that, I am saying it, so I'm saying, so we're doing it to ourselves, Like I've never had someone send me a message being like, you look ugly in that. Now, I don't have a following like y'all do, and maybe y'll do. But let's not lump me and Cramer together. I'm just two million. People's a lot of opinions, is it, truly? Because I think about me when I filter. I do a filter, and it's just about what I think and me looking for. It's not anyone coming to me and saying you look better this way or look better that way. You know what. I'm filters only for me. It's literally only for as. Then I started feeling like it's not fair to me. That's why I stopped doing it. And I'm doing the originals on my phone because I'm like, I there's something i'm doing or needing from that that I don't like. That's That's what I'm getting at. Yeah, it's like that I'm still going to get so we're super clear. I mean, I just I just want everybody stop comparing so much. And you're right right now, it's really hard because there's a lot of drugs out there that people are getting skinnier, and they're you know, well what there's quick fixes for everything. I mean even my botox is a quick fix. Really, yeah, for sure, but yeah, I don't know. I just wish everyone knew how pretty they really are. Same yeah, and different ages, different wrinkles, different sizes. You guys, well, I think everyone's trying to look younger and thinner, and you know, and especially when you're seeing it so much on a platform that we have in our hand. Yeah, the day. Yeah, let's do a no filter things. I'm really I'm not ready to commit. Okay, but have you noticed Yeah? I didn't notice. Yeah, what you notice any different? I don't think you look any different. I didn't notice it. It's in a way of like, oh she looks different. I just noticed it wasn't up there, you guys. Some of these are making people look like l ol dolls. Like I'm like, okay, we gotta get real. No. No, the one I use was, you know, it's it's like the natural It's is like natural beauty, and like, I like that one, but it's also natural. It's not natural. So I just I shout out to Bethany. I'm close. I'm close to to to pulling the to pulling the trigger. My problem is that when I do it, I want to be like, you guys know this is unfiltered, right, Probably something deeper there too, another conversation on another day. Disclaimer, Oh man, well we really did it. We really did do it. We have a lot of other hot topics that will discuss it a later time. But I feel like this is a good wrap up and just look in the mirror and tell yourself you're beautiful. It's kind of I know it sounds really silly to do, but I okay, So I just have it's really fast up. When I was flying back from England, I started to have a little anxiety because I was in the middle seat. Oh oh honey, that's no place for craneer anyway, and so I was starting to like really freak myself. Yeah, I was like, okay, like freaking myself up. And remember Mel Robbins was like, high five yourself. No, it's okay, so yeah, but no, it's it's the high five. It's the high five. But I was like, I, for some reason can't do the high five. It just feels a little too much for me. The high five, Well, I don't really high five people in real life. If I could hug myself, I would. I love the idea of it, and I tried it like once or twice, and then I'm like what I'm like, now I'm putting a mark on my mirror. And so that the windex thing was an issue. So I was what I started to do. And this was like a little tip for the anxiety is I would I'd go into the bathroom the so the first time i'd have to This sounds so stupid, you guys. No, I'd go into the restroom at like when I had to go on airplane, even if I didn't have to pee, I would look in the mirror and goes, you got this, You're okay, you are safe, like you're not alone on this flight. And then halfway through the plane, I'd go, you're doing so good, keep going like you know, and like literally like looking like cheering yourself on. And then I was like it's somehow didn't it worked like for the anxiety. So I'm like, I'm kind of flipping it now, I'm going, you don't need this, like you're beautiful post it. Hey, So I hate girl myself. Hey girl, I go, hey girl in the mirror in the bathroom. In the bathroom, I wouldn't high five anyone either. It feels very corporate for me, so I won't do that. But I'm like, hey girl, like literally never do that in one million years. Yeah. I just feel better about myself. So whatever you need to do, and if you need to, hay girl, yourself, Kathy and you got to find yours. Whatever that is, Gromise, you're gonna tell us next week what it is. Yeah, because I've got I've got the Jane. So you know Everyoneways says when they go one tour, you're either a Katherine, a Christen or a Janel. Right, so I'm still figurings. Yeah, so the Janna would go, you got this girl, and like keep going like you know whatever, and then Chris and was going, hey girl, hey girl, and Katherine, we're still figuring that one out, but we're gonna get there. So you just go look in that mirror because you're beautiful. You're beautiful, more beautiful than Cinderella was that Bridesmaids no item, No, you don't know it. I don't know that one. Come on, guys, all right, I don't want to leave you hanging. You got this, You're strong, you can do the next week

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