Wind down Michael Coffin and I hear a radio podcast another one day, I'm actually in a really good mood. You are in a good mood, and I keep asking you, are you okay? I just kind of just because I'm not matching your energy. Well, hey, there's something to be said about that, though, because there's times when you know I'm not matching the energy and anything something's wrong with me. So I think it is something. But you know, sometimes I think it was because the other day You're like, I'm just like so blah, and I'm like, Okay, is there anything surrounding that, because if there is, i'd love to hear. If not, Goobela, dude, I'm going my glass of wine. I'm gonna go watch Dancing with the Stars. See you later. No, I think it's uh in any relationship. It's one of those things where it depends on the degree of passiveness that has existed in a relationship. So at times I feel like I'm more I questioned maybe your blondness, because because usually you're not blah, and when you are, there's usually a reason behind it, like there's some passiveness behind it. So I'm like, um, and makes of time something eventually comes out when I keep chipping away at it. But I will say that I wrote something down to bring up about that was. I even said, you know the other day, when I was blah or whatever and you kept asking me, I wasn't like. I didn't like, I wasn't harping. I just was like, I was giving you moments of Hey, I just want checking. Are you sure you're okay? Yeah, you gave me opportunities, but you weren't pest about it. And I even affirmed you that night because to me, it felt so good to be able to just be blah for no reason, like melancholy, blah, whatever word you want to use to describe it, and not feel guilty about it, because you you know, my partner isn't like, what's wrong? What's wrong? Till me what's wrong? I know something wrong? I'm like, no, I'm just blawed. So I appreciated that a lot, and it meant a lot to me, And it's one of those things that I feel like should exist in a relationship where as long as we articulated right and you say, hey, I'm just in a blah moude, I'm just kind of cool. Chilling by myself right now. Then, I think it's huge for your partner to respect that. It's so hard though, because we're so codependent. So it's when you were sitting you know, I had just gotten home from something, and you went straight got your food and went into the game room. I was just like, and you kind of aren't told me that you were a blah. But you know, I thought, you know, I came home from getting a fresh new cut in color and so, you know, and then I saw you grab your Jimmy Johnson go sit in the game room, and I was just like, okay, I know he said he was blah. He said it wasn't for anything, but I'm just going to check in with him again. So but you know, I wanted to sit at the game room. I wanted to sit there with you and be like, Okay, what's wrong, tell me everything? Why are you black? And you're just like waiting by the barn door and been around the corner. So instead I went in and was just like, all right, baby, what are you doing. He's like, You're like, I'm just watching football. I'm like, okay, well, if anything comes up for you, we just know that I'm here. And I love you and um, yeah, that's it. And so it was so hard for me to just leave it at that, but I did, and I poured my glass of wine and I went in bed, and it was, I think the very first time I was ever like, you know what, I have my mood and I can't control his mood, and I'm going to be happy and not let him, like I don't want to be blocked because he's so it was the first time I actually noticed not being codependent. I was just like, oh, this is nice. I like to not be codependent and match his mood. It was. It was very because I've never seen it on the outside. I've always been I've always either matched your energy or you'll do the same thing and you'll be like, I'd be like, why are you excitedly, Well, you haven't been, you know, very happy this morning, so I'm like, well, why do you got to match my energy? You know, it's just but this is what we do. And it is I've had those moments too. I'm just maybe you're kind of a grouchy mood or whatever, and I'm just like, it's like a respectful way to say unpleasant. Yes that too. And so times you've been grouchy. And when I have those moments where I'm not being codependent, I'm just like, you know what, Uh, you know, my codependency isn't saying what did I do wrong? What was she mad at? I just know I've I'm yeah, not grouchy. I didn't do anything to cause this, so, you know what, I'm just gonna let her be that way. And it's such a relieving feeling to do that. But why can't we just be normal people and to that all the time. I don't know, Mark and your wife match each other's energy, are codependent like us, probably, But I will say that there are times when I would like a few minutes to myself. But I'm accused of hiding in those situations, like when I just go upstairs and turn on the ball game, because like my daughters and my wife will, I'll be downstairs and I'll just go up and turn on the ball game and it's dad's hiding. And I don't like that. I'm not hiding. I just needed it. I just wanted to go up and watch your game, right well? And I this is would this bother you? Because I think this bothers Mike. Can can you just say like, hey, I'm I think I'm just gonna sit in here and eat my food and watch the game. Cool, or like, hey, I'm gonna head upstairs and watch the game. You do you guys feel like you can't say because to us, or like why did you disappear to a different room? You know, because I said that the other day? Literally, why do you keep disappearing? And you're like, I'm like, I went to the office and then I went to our room. I'm like, what do you mean disappear? I literally I left the room twice. You can do something. And she's like, if you I just feel like today you just keep disappearing. And it drove me nuts, though, But I can see that, I could I could see having that conversation and we're not intentionally disappearing. But also I think there is and Mike, if you maybe, if you're honest, there's a little piece of If I say I'm going to go upside and watch the game, I might be told before you do that. Would you mind taking the dogs out? Would you mind getting those dishes out of the sink? Would you mind doing this and this and this? If you're just gonna go lay on your butt for an hour. Maybe you could knock off a couple of things off the checklist first. Yeah, mind not mind, not so much that minds. Minds more of Hey, I'm gonna go watch this in the other room. Oh okay, I guess we're not gonna hang out. I'm just like I can't. I can't have an hour. Like just when the kids go down doesn't mean we have to. Okay, we're both going into bed right now. What are you doing? What am I doing? Okay, we have to do it together. Like sometimes I's gonna be like, I'm gonna go do this, and I think it's just the acknowledgement, like just saying because I think two With women, like we say i'm gonna go brush my teeth and after that, i'm gonna go to this, and then after I'm gonna go do this, and after that I'm gonna make a sandwich, and then after this, i'm gonna go do that. And with guys, it's just like you disappear. No, we don't. We just go do it. That's the thing we don't announce. And that's I think part of it, too, Mark, is I don't feel like I have to announce what I'm doing or where I'm going in our my own home. But I think if you're doing it for a long period of like if it's to go watch a football game, like to me, that would be like, oh, you just disappeared to watch a football game for an hour. I didn't know you're going up to watch. I can understand if it was like twelve o'clock on Sunday and I just disappeared, literally didn't tell you and just went upstairs to the TV room and was laying down watching football, like what Mark was doing. But still he don't have to watch it for three hours. But she doesn't know. I am I going away forty seconds the bathroom gone for an hour? Right? Yeah? And I think that's where us women struggle with that we have the exact opposite problem and are really yeah, Because actually my wifeend I got into a tip the other night because I self nared too much. Well, I like, we're hanging out and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna fold my laundry and then I'm gonna go take the dog on a walk and then we're gonna finish up some work. And She's like, I don't care what you do. Are he serious? She's like, I would get along great. Yes, wait, she says she said she didn't care. Yeah, she She's like, she's like, Eastern drive me crazy by just like announcing everything you're saying you're gonna do like your Superman or something like I do not care, just go do it. And I'm like, well, I don't know what if you wanted to, like if you had other plans, I just want to make your wrong. And what did she say? You're like, all, you know, that's Jann, that's Janna's dream. She wishes I did that. But how did you guys end the tiff? Was it actual tip or was that like you guys way of fighting and you called me, well, I mean we don't fight very much like that was the most aggressive. I just said, okay, I'll stop doing it then fine, And that in itself as an announcement of what I'm gonna do. It's like I already broke my own rule. But his wife swaps still on TV because I feel like these two couples should maybe mix and match and be very happy together. You know what. I would love wife Sap to come back on because I think it's like you you want something else, But at the same time, I think you would miss Can we do like celebrity wife swaps? I don't think I think it's done. I don't know if they have those, bring it back for a short you kind of probably dangerous because then we'd be like, oh, I like this better. I feel like, see how he treats her, see how she did treats him. It wouldn't be good for us. It's been off sadly. But I do think an issue is that wives with children don't really have the luxury of disappearing for an hour. I think that's part of the great point. Mark, What a beautiful point. Thank you. What do you mean wives with children? What about husbands with children? But you guys don't take like the main priority of here we go. My wife would never just disappear because she's she's, you know, making lunches for the next day's yeah she can't, or the kids kids are asking her questions and she's making them a snack or whatever is going on. She doesn't have the luxury of just going upstairs for an hour disappeared to go take a poop, like Mike's poops are at least thirty minutes long, and then I go in there and he's playing a game on his pl and I was like, do you know I would love to sit down for a poop and have it last thirty minutes. Look, you have a gollbrider, so you're just all is out. I'm just saying true. But still I would love to close the door for thirty minutes. I never understood why my dad took so long in the bathroom, and then I had kids, and now I get it. You literally just took the words out of my mouth. We uhouln't joke about my dad taking forever. I'm like, why is he in there so long? And then as soon as I have kids, I'm like, well, I get it. It's when you become a dad. And I didn't get my showers anymore. I used to have my showers like showers or my thing, but now I have to shower with Jolie. So it's like I don't even get my showers. Anybody but I think. But the thing is, it's not like for me. I don't just disappear if we have the kids. I'm not just I just don't like leave the room if if we're both kids, I never do that. No, you're a great dad. And it's when we're it's just Jane and I or maybe it's just Jolie and it's nighttime, so you know what, we just have a TV on for Jolie for an hour and so we can get a few things done before bedtime. So it's it's never like that. But still, I just I don't know, the announcing it feels like you're asking for permission. And that's one of your biggest things, is you hate having to feel like you're asking for permission. Well, it's just like when you say, hey, I'm in the office, Like, hey, what are you doing? If I just say work, Janna drive her nuts. She's like, but no, no, like what are you doing? Like what kind of work? I'm like, I'm getting some work done. What does that mean? Mike? And it's like, okay, like you're like Janna was kind of saying that women do or like Eastern like you were doing. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna email this person, I'm gonna email that person. I gotta go hold to this person. I gotta, you know, write this up. I gotta do this. And I'm just like, well, just why can't just all fall under the umbrella of work? Because we want to make sure that you're checking off the proper process to make sure you're calling that the long guy because we have like ten drees dead in the backyard and you know, following up with a few other people for our work stuff. You know, just just just speck goes back to the good old times. So email us our listeners out there about any situation like this and how you and your partner handle when it comes to time apart. Is it you can see yourself disappearing? Do you have to announce your plan like Easton and just to make sure it's okay or or it fits their schedule or whatever it is. I would love to hear some stories around this so we can talk about that. It is wind down at iHeart radio dot com. Do you feel guilt ever, Mike, just when you were like because sometimes like it's a it's a Friday night, I've got everything done I need to get done. You know, I've done it all, and I'm just gonna sit down, I'm gonna turn on the TV and I'm gonna watch them TV. But my wife is still you know, getting stuff ready for the next day. She's vacuuming, she's doing a bunch of stuff, and I do I do feel like I I this is wrong of me to just be sitting here watching TV while she's up and around. It depends. There are times where I do feel guilty, absolutely because I know Janna and I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, all right, there's some things that I probably need to get done, but I'll take care of them tomorrow. But if I was Janna, she'd be up and doing him right now. So then I should feel guilty because I don't want to hear that crap right now. Actually, you just wanted to relax. But times like last night, I mean I kicked ask yesterday. It's so good. He did laundry, he folded, and kids laundry I put away and it started to finish. Lot of hair appointment. I just I crushed it yesterday as a dad and husband left Jane a little card like yeah, I mean just ten out of ten across the board yesterday, okay from husband and dad duties. So literally yesterday he couldn't I can't seen that I couldn't have done anything better. That's the best I got, honey, That's it. That's me. So now it's all downhill. But yesterday when I did, you know, when I did just want to like watch some football for a few minutes, I was like, I have no guilt in the world right now because I owned today, and there's nothing that Janna could say with any validation or legitimacy behind it that would cause me to feel guilty at all because I did. But also because I know how Janna works and she's constantly doing something I have to have like that kind of day, and where did not feel guilty because there's been times where you'll say like, hey, I know there's something I'm just like, I'm so tired, Like I'm just sure. But it's how I then reciprocate with him because if I'm crappy about it, so I try to make sure to be like absolutely bad because if not, then he gets that. I want him to feel comfortable, to be able to just like have a lazy day or and if I'm on him, then he won't. So I have to be like very mindful of that, which I think I've gotten a lot better with you have and I think it's we have gotten a lot better because if I didn't have the perfect day like I did yesterday, I need to articulate it, because then it then you're not sitting there thinking he's just sitting around being lazy, but did he take care of the things? Get frustrated? So if I articulated to you and acknowledge that that helps you, so that that's a good way of compromising. I think, yeah, for sure, without having to feel like you're right, without having to feel guilty and or asking for being you know, you coming in and be like did you get this done yet? Why are you watching football? Why are you doing that? You know? It was It was so funny. I came home from something the other day and he's like the things were folded. In my head. I'm like, okay, there's kids laundry in the dryer, and like there's no way it's going to be done, so I won't even and I come home it's like, my laundry is folded, kids laundry, and I go, Chase, I'm gonna grab you really slowly and we're going to walk away. Somebody has broken into our house. I don't know who this man is. It's very scary. Sifter. It was so funny. I'm impressed that he's allowed to fold the kids laundry because I am not allowed to touch the kids laundry. See, you know what the key is, I put it away before she gets Yeah, so then okay, then she can go through the jews and probably blame it on Kylie. Damn it, Kylie. We have the best nanny though. She's amazing. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah. Well, uh no, I think that's a good topic for people to chime in on. Chime chime, Chime, chime, chime. China is wound. I am um, Well, Bob Sage is here, but he's such a good friend of us. We actually just had dinner, so um, I cannot wait to uh see him again. 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You did get us to go out another night. Oh no, you got us to hang out like long that night. And I was just like, we didn't get home. His car had was left at valet. Oh my god, I thought I had to boot or something. I got scared. No, no, I had. We had to go get it the next day. I felt like I was in my twenties again. I know. I was just like, wow, this is you also popped Jana's cheery in a sense of that was the first time she ever heard last call at a bar. Ever. She was like, what is that? They don't say that to me. That's the problem. That's why, that's why I definitely have to have slowed down my drinking because they locked me in. Okay. So I was just texting with Kelly a couple of days ago. Is your house okay? Houses okay? To my knowledge? Uh, yeah, I don't know, if it's got like a lot of ash all over it and a lot of smoking, you know, damage, but it's evacuated, we can't get there. So it was pretty weird. We had to evacuate the other night, and I always do after a big meal. But I didn't know. I didn't know we were gonna have this problem. And it's really sad and about that ten people lost their homes in the area, or eleven people, but our street was so far pretty protected. So, um, they the firefighters, they're just amazing. They are. Really it's unbelievable what heroes they are. It is. They're my favorite people. They they're you know, I don't know, they're the heroes, they're they're superheroes. Yeah, you guys living up in the hills like that, is it pretty common to have fire and rance? Um? Yeah, yeah, I've had fire insurance. I have I would have it anyway, because even if I lived, you know, in a condo and a high rise, you never know, when you're somebody leaves the gas on, the next thing, you know, your windows get blown out, and uh, you know that's the end of that. I wasn't sure if in a place like southern California. If that was like an I know, like home insurance cover would probably cover that. But still I feel like that would be a way for insurance companies to get a little bit more from Southern California, like earth earthquake insurance, fire insurance or something. Well, I don't have earthquake insurance because it's so expensive. It's so silly because the money you're going to spend other insurance is probably what you're going to spend on your house. And if it comes off the foundation, you've got to rebuild the house anyway, and they don't give you enough money to rebuild your house. So it's kind of a sham earthquake insurance. So maybe I'll make up. But maybe I'll make up my own company and that will be successful. You know, perfect sounds legit. Okay, see on the Whole Dog and Pony Show right now doing the Nashville Square. Yes, in the middle of all this, I stole at three am, I stole two outfits to do pressing. So I was like, Kelly's like, I just need to under work. Let's get out of here, and we took two cars out and went to a hotel. But I'm getting closed for press. I mean, well, wait, so you found a hotel, but Lebron James did not find a hotel. Correct. I left immediately, And um and I just called a hotel I had a time which I had a relationship with and uh, not a relationship. I mean Kelly' is my relationship. But the hotel, I I knew the people, I didn't have hook up with them, but um, well there was one person behind the front desk right we text. No, Kelly's the best. Kelly's at the hotel right now, just sending her love to you. Guys, you're about to celebrate or just did celebrate one year last night. Yeah, it's our ash anniversary because of the fire. What did you guys do anything special? You? We had to. We had dinner and just chilled and uh it was really nice. And then you know, I'm not I'm a gentleman, doesn't talk about romance and stuff. Let's just say it was a very reminiscent beautiful anniversary. I love that. Okay, Nashville Squares, we have to do it because we're on the show too, to promote the show as well. But for Bob, because I couldn't I couldn't think of a better host for that shows. So silly, right, you wouldn't think it would be me naturally, until we became friends, you wouldn't know that, oh, Bob would be good at that, right. But it made sense though once once you were there, and once we're there, I'm like, there's nobody better for this, for this job. You were so Sweetny, and it was it was It was just cool made music. In general, country artists have a certain happiness about them, except for the ones that are singing about their dog and their wife up and left them and they're drinking. But but you know, my dog died. But but I write songs about that. But I've been right the country comedy songs for years. So it was kind of a a serendipitous thing that they would ask me to host it, and I knew how to do it because I've hosted so much. Uh, but it's just a free for all. It's not like I was offered original Hollywood Squares. But Tom Bergeron did that and and and I didn't want to do it because it was so scripted. But as you know from being there, this thing is not scripted at all. And they were telling all the you know, the artists to just talk over each other. And you know, I'm like, what we're allowed to do that because usually when someone talks, are not allowed to talk. And if you want to drink the bars right there, half the people have been through rehabit or cleaned up or never went and they're fine. They have their sparkling water or diet coke and then they every idded a commercial and then the other people are just you know, Tanya Tucker's land sideways holding Dennis Quades dog in the middle squares. So and I think she fell asleep too, didn't she? Yeah, she did, she did. I think the Dallas you guys will everybody yup. You guys were wonderful on the show. It was fun, but it was again it was it was to you because you you drove the show and you you made it. You made it fun for us to sit there and we got to play against other too and also be up on the in the squares. But it was just great having you be the man that ran the show. So Nashville Squares is out now you can watch it um it aired. It just aired on Friday, first episode, the first episode, and they they ran two episodes on November one. But now it's on every Friday at eight o'clock sent you know, at eight o'clock. I know my television terminology at eight o'clock Eastern. Uh. And then of course you gotta go seven o'clock Central and then six o'clock Mountain Mountain. People are gonna watch this show. I have a feeling. And it runs in my house at one am every night all night long. Yeah, and it's but it's it's really fun. And it's that old d G I F spot I used to have with full House. So it's so it's like a warm blanket. You're just you love it. That's where you live. That's home. That's home. I can't go there. Right, What is it you've done all this hosting stuff? What is it when you go into something like that? What's the difference between that and obviously acting? You have everything is scripted. You have kind of a script in your head when you go out to do hosting or is it just like all right, I'm gonna take whatever presents itself. Now. Hosting is something that I don't give a lot of thought too, because all the preps been done. Acting is new every time you do it. You gotta learn your dialogue and you gotta, but you have to know what it's about. Like, I love acting a lot. I host because it's another facility that I have. I did this show One Versus one hundred, and it was on NBC and it was on before Deal and No Deal and Millionaires on and then they decided to take all the game shows off. They said, oh, game shows are done. And then look at the past two years. I've already done Alec Balban's match game. I've done to Tell the Truth with Anthony Anderson because they text me personally. So I'm like, oh, no, I gotta do it. I'm screwed. So um. But but like if not that you changed, right, Bob is so changed. But what's great is uh, with Nashville Squares there was no script. I mean I I just do stuff like you win this or she just said this, Now what do you say? You know? But that's the script. That's it. The rest is it's a free for all and it's just like hanging with friends and acting crazy and there's some games involved. You know, put your hand in this box and touch this and you hope it's not poop, you know, But but but I mean, it's just it's it's a fun, fun gig. But I'm also doing the finishing of Fuller House, which ends um this year. It's the fifth season, and we have the first nine episodes air before the end of the year, and then in the beginning of the new year the last nine episodes and we shoot the next very last episode in like two weeks. I do it. Did you think Fuller House was gonna be that successful to get five seasons? I thought it would get a little more. Um. But Netflix is also smart about what they do, and sometimes all they need is five seasons and some thes ratings slip. I mean they pretend sometimes they don't happen what they do, and um, you know, I don't know how long you know, Um, the Upside Down will be on you know. Uh, what's that wonderful show called? Yeah, I don't know. I've been watching Dead to Me and The Politician are my two favorites. I want to see. That is the Paul Rudd show Netflix, the new one. Yeah, it is I that Yeah, and I hear it's fantastic. I hear it's unbelievable. Kelly said, you gotta watch it. And it's only twenty minutes long and apparently she thinks that's all I can last. But that's not right. Um, but then I've got Then I got the dirty video show that I did, which is scripted after dark, right yeah, after the videos, after dark will come on. ABC has been saying in the winter Spring, which sounds like it sounds like a Game of Thrones, the Winter Spring is coming the wild Wings, because I know he talked about that last time, and I didn't want to bring it up last time I saw you cause I didn't know what happened with it. So yeah, that's sweet. Thank You know, they're gonna run it for sure because it's uh, you know, they they love it and it's money, so they so they want to make money. Is there anything with all the hosting stuff? Is there anything like on your bucket list it's like, oh, I want to be able to host this one day or is it just whatever opportunity presents itself. Well, the Oscars are always something. But I gotta do some movie work, and I also have to do some directing work. And there's a movie I'm directing a documentary about Martin mull right now. But that's just something because I love him and he's a great artist. And he was one of the first person people that I ever saw. They did comedy music and he did a lot of country music too. He's very, very smart. He played with Len Campbell and he's very talented guy. And you know him from like Sabrina and stuff. You know, you gen X millennials, you and um. But I'm also working on another feature thing and as I get older and I'm in my seventies and eighties, I want to direct that. Then that's so much fun. And then I want to make I want to make some really good movies, is what I want to do, and that that would be I guess I could be a seventy year old man hosting the Oscars. Uh. I mean otherwise, I don't really care about hosting UH too much. It's just something I do. Just to know something I do. Well, You're putting it out there, and that's that's the best thing you can do, is put it out there and keep working towards it and entertain people. And entertain people whether you get them involved in their lives like you guys do. You get people involved in their lives by you getting involved in your lives and sharing yourselves with people, and then you're entertaining, because you know, sometimes when you bicker, it's like the funniest thing in the world. It's good. Better people are like, oh, it's so cringe, so cringe e Like, well it's one of the other the other. Well, no, it's but it's honest, and it's not like you're on the Bachelor or anything, you know. I mean, those people could be No, it could be trying to make you feel better. No, I'm just saying those people they come on there and they unveil things that that's it. For the rest of their life, that moment will be remembering their their stories are produced, so they can't even control that. No, it's not even them, it's not even what they think. Except for when this this this cold guy, this really nice guy, he went and screwed the pooch. He told it ahead of time. He blew the coach. I don't know what he did. Now, you don't want to do that. That that guy that was the last Bachelor, Yeah, Colton sorry, and Colton Underwood. Uh he said ahead of time that I've been seeing her and I love her, and I've I've already been with her, and that caused the whole ruckus. And then they had to put on the bats arette all of a sudden at the end of that episode, it was it was quite troubling, you know this information. I watched it because they did a sneak preview of videos after dark afterwards, so it wasn't like required viewing the real truth. The man that can't go home. You have a million other places you've got to go. So thanks for stopping in to say hey to us, and well I love you guys, and and yeah, I'm gonna come back to Nashville because the show CMT is really excited about it and they think we're going to be shooting in Nashville. So that would be amazing. That would be amazing, and you'll be on it all the time. And then we can go to dinner and we'll do dinner all the time and it'll be great. And we'll leave cars at balet. 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This may sound really stupid, nothing stupid to a lot of people, but I felt it when I was playing my little handheld video game thing the other night. Just do you ever have something that's so much so nostalgic? It's it's almost, I don't know, it's almost uncomfortable, or like you hear a song or watch a movie and you're just like this reminds me almost takes me back too much to that moment where I just don't even want to like listen to it or or what was what was your thing? Well, it was this uh legend of Zelda linked to the past from Super Nintendo. Yeah, when I was a kid, and it just every time, like this opening sequence came on and all this stuff, it just brought me back to being a kid so much that it was I just felt like the the my brain waves just kind of like the sparks flying, and that just super nostalgic feeling. It was a good feeling, but it was almost I could just feel it so much. I was like, this is kind of uncomfortable because it just I feel like I'm ten again. But then on the other hand, there's things like there's this song, Uh, you've heard it if if if you played it? No, it's uh what it what it's like by ever last classic classic song. So that song I haven't listened to since. Um this friend of mine that I grew up with something from the time we were in third grade through high school. He died in a car accident our senior year in high school, a month before his eighteenth birthday, and that was like our jam when we were in elementary school, Like, we just listened to the hell out of that song. So it's one of those things that Adam Foot and you know, we grew up together, and even in high school we didn't run with the same crowd, but we're always good buddies. It was one of those you know what I mean, Like we always had our childhood and it's just one of those things where it's so painful that the nostalgia I just can't have any part of it. I can't sit through it. Do you have anything like that? I mean, well, thank you for sharing. First of all, Um, that was that must be hard. I I can't imagine losing a friend that young, just thinking back, like how because death scares me, Not to get deep into death talk, but that death scares me in general just thinking about it, especially now that we have kids too. But I can't imagine, Like I remember obviously when we lost my grandpa, but to lose a friend, I don't know. I just like, at that such a young age, how is that to deal with? You know? It was And I've been very fortunate where I haven't had to deal with much loss. Um, my grandma when I was young, but I was too young to really process. I was like fourth grade. Yeah, when I feel like in grandparents, like it's sad as it was my grandpa Dad, Like you know they're older, right, all right. I haven't had many sudden deaths. Its only really my friend and my aunt a few years back. But uh, it was. It was really difficult. It's hard to comprehend. It's hard to understand. It's one of those things. You know. It's interesting at his at his funeral, um, there's a there's this other friend of ours, Eric, that it was like the three of us in elementary school, Like we just rode our bikes together, like we did everything together, and same kind of deal. Eric was like in a different crowd. Still hung with Adam a lot more in high school. But it's like when Eric and I saw each other at the funeral, like we had this hug and this embrace of that was just like unmatched because of just like everything behind it and growing up together. And I don't know, it's it was hard, man, It's just one of those things, you know. And he was an only child, so it's have so much empathy for his parents and and everything. But you know, I know there's a lot of people out there that have had to stuffer way more loss. Um, you can't measure someone's pain, No, you can't. You can't. It's all about what you're exposed to and everything. But no, Yeah, it sucked. And that song came on and you had to turn it off. Yeah, every any time I hear that song, I have to turn it off ever since, ever since then, ever since I was eighteen years old. Do you have anything like that mark? Over the summer, I went back to my hometown and Manona, Wisconsin, and I went to a friend's parents house that we used to hang out at. It be gosh, twenty five at least years since I've been in that house, and it was bizarre. It felt like I was traveling through time. It's like if I went back to Lindsay Crocker's house, because I've been friends with her since I was three and we still keep in touch and we're still friends. But if I was to go back in our house, it would just be that weird, like, oh yeah, even gives me chills thinking about it. I think her parents still live in the same house, in the same neighborhood that we grew up in. Crazy. I went to my house I grew up in, which my parents moved to Arizona in and so I went there and the woman happened to be outside mowing her lawn. So I went up to her and I said, I'm so sorry to bother you. I used to live in this house. Do you mind if I just go in the backyard for a minute. Because I felt like it was too intrusive to ask to go inside the house when she wasn't expecting guests or anything. I gave her the opportunity to invite me, but she did not do that. But she I said, the back yard. She goes, yeah, I go ahead, go in the backyard. So in the backyard with my dad and I used to play baseball a couple of times a week. And now that that tree was first base and that tree was second base, and I got emotional. I just standing in the backyard and it only been since and yet I still got emotional standing back there. It all comes back, you know, It's funny. Uh. My mom had a similar thing where the house I grew up in. I lived in the same house from the time I was four until I was sixteen. And so the house I grew up in, it's it's near, it's in a different neighborhood, and the other one that my parents lived in now and my mom same thing. She was kind of like driving by, She's outside looking at it, and I think the people that lived there had just gotten home, and she was like, I'm so sorry. I don't mean to be creepy. I just you know, I raised my kids in this house and we're just you know, I was just you guys did a lot of changes. I was just looking at it and they're like, oh, you want to come on in, and they let my mom in and they let her take pictures and she was saying, yeah, she sent it pictures to me and my dad and my my brother and my sister. My brother doesn't remember it about my sister. And I were like, that's so crazy, it's so weird, that's nuts. I my aunt susan uncle Roy live across the street from the house that I grew up in from three to whenever my parents got divorced after that, um, seventeen, and um, I want to go in so bad, but no one lives there anymore, no one at all. Well apparently it ended up being like I think they were doing math or something the house. And but I, my brother and I talked about because it went on the market, and so I wanted to buy it because it's you know, a deal. Yeah you know. Um, but I think someone bought it and then they just run it out. But gosh, I I would love to I don't know, it's just I would love to go in the house because we had this little gremlin room that it was called the Gremlin Room, and it was but in the gremlin room as we had you know, into the wood where you see how tall you were. So we did that in my closet. So I just would love to see if that was that's still there and like bring Jolly there. I was like crazy. We try to be like objective about these things, like it's just a house, it's just four walls. And Miranda Lambert's song The House that Built Me. There's something about going back to that house that it's that built to you and the memories from you know, maybe your parents fighting. I mean for me, I mean some of the nostalgias, unfortunately, are all pretty negative. And that's what kind of bums me out when I think about certain things and it's, you know, from my house, it's like my parents fighting or arguing, or there's I hate I hate that, but it's there's still something that that house built you. I can't remember what I did two days ago, but I can't remember twenty years ago, you know what I mean? When I was playing catch with my dad in the front yard on our street. In our street were like flat, but then it gradually goes downhill. I overthrew my dad and he had to go running down after the ball. He was kind of piste, but then he chucked the ball from I don't know, it felt like a football field away, like a pop fire. I go up to catch it, it's off that tipping my glove and hits me right in the right eye and I had this huge shiner and I go in. I mean it was old fashioned, like I put a steak on it, like like straight up at a sand lot like it was. It was unreal. Yeah. Well, Mike, you may not remember what you did two days ago, but always remember what you did yesterday, because that was peak Mike yesterday. Congratulations, Thank you. Um what about the time. But don't you want to go back to the grass where you had to wear the helmet that your dad would make you wear, the helmet, you know, mowing the grass? That story that was I think we actually told that story in here. Probably pretty funny. Good times. Thanks parents, Eastern Are you in there? I'm here, baby. What you got? What you give me? Some nostalgia? Oh my goodness. I mean I I relived this stuff constantly to the point now where I'm going to be, Uh, I'm gonna be in my fifties, uh, watching the Disneyland sing along and going like I remember when I was thirty two watching this and I remember when I was nine watching constantly just live nostalgia. Yeah, yeah, I know it's because because you can you can pull us up on YouTube. Now it's it's crazy, Like, um, I watched Pewee's Playhouse the other day, and I don't know if you guys have ever seen that program, but you my my my dad got like crazy drunk one night and ordered the entire run on VHS and he just he doesn't remember ordering it, and uh, and it just showed up at the door. So I watched the whole thing when I was like a little kid, and it reminds me of like when I watched that. Now I really enjoyed it, but also it was like a really tumultuous time in our family. So like I've got these like such these mixed emotions when I watch The Magic Screen or John Bi the Genies like that. But now it's so cool. I literally don't know. That's insane. You would watch with pe Herman. There's a smell that I don't I cannot and have not been able to place. But it was the same smell that I smelled in the remaining hospital when I was sick I had surgery. So every time I smelled that. Now it brings me. I get like a pit in my stomach thinking about that experience. Terrifying, I know, but I'm like, I can't think it's some kind of cleaning solution. And if I walk into any other bathroom or I can smell it and I'm like romania. They say the smells are the most effective at bringing it back to a memory. Oh yeah, that makes total sense. Yeah for sure, because it's just wolf crazy. Well, way to walk down memory lane. Guys. Also with with the emails, I want to hear some of those two. I want to hear some people's nostalgia, like what's where those things? And it could be don't have to be like negative, like super sad like mine was, but it could be something that just like you said, Mark, you you said it perfectly, where it's just like almost overwhelming feeling of nostalgia. You're just kind of uncomfortable, even if it's a positive thing. Yeah, yeah, emails, we have some really nice ones this week. Let's do it. Uh, let's just from Sarah, she said. First of all, let me just give you, Danielle. She saw on your Instagram story the Jolie and Jay's cups that you reposted from someone else. Oh, yes, you can get them at Dollar General. There you go, where do you get them? I'd love to purchase them. And I love your show and I hope you get the People's Choice Award. You guys deserve it. Sorry, Becca Antonia, I love you guys too, Love you too back in Antonia. Um, that's very sweet, thank you, Sarah says. My husband Brian and I are both thirty one. We've married for five years, and we've had our ups and downs. Until last May, I was really happy in my marriage till my husband expressed to me be in a counseling session that he was unfaithful five times, all within the first year of our marriage, while I was pregnant with our first child. He also admitted he was he had attempted to act out while we were pregnant with our second baby. In the periods in between, he compensated with pornography and almost ninety dollars in online shopping. This summer, he filed for bankruptcy and we filed for separation. He had then left for an impatient treatment center for sex addiction. He comes home November nine, after completing seventy five days. By all accounts, he's doing well, he's progressing, he's giving it as all, but I am so scared to come home and to find out what that new normal will look like, and I'm so scared of being hurt again. I just wanted to say I appreciate your courage. It is a daily kind of cur to share openly all the things we didn't choose for everyone to find out either. My husband was our church worship leader. If you're ever near Asheville, North Carolina, let's grab dinner. Otherwise, keep doing y'all, praying for your family, your marriage, and continued recovery. I mean, I would love to sit down with you, guys. I would love thank you for your email. That's beyond uh sweet um Sarah, thank you. But I will say it's pretty amazing he did tell you. That's very Yeah, that's something that when you're having a hard time hanging on to hope and having those fears. The fact that he got to the point where he had just couldn't live with that double life anymore and he told you about you discovering, I mean, that's that goes a long way. Is that a sign that he doesn't want to be that guy? Anymore for sure. That's it's a sign of it's taking contrary action, which is why you know, all the stuff that Jane and I were dealing with, you know, with me deleting and not telling. It's all about taking contrary action, doing something that you wouldn't have done in the past. So that's something it's we know. It's tough, and it is, Sarah said, is a daily battle. Um, you have your ups and downs, but hang your head on that at least. And all you can do is, like Janna says, she trusts me today until I give every reason not too well. And he needs to be like showing up and stuff too. Because the hardest, the hardest recovery we've had was not when he was gone in treatment. It was the two years he got home from treatment. That's been the hardest adjustment. And it just takes time and it's um. But again, if two people are willing to work, I know I said that all time, but if you know, you just got to keep fighting it out. But we will also be praying for y'all's marriage and thank you for sharing your story. Yeah, thank you. And so she's she's it's okay, she's scared, but it's okay to be optimistic too, absolutely, but it's both are totally fine and normal. Yeah, I'm still scared. You know he's still scared. You know, you're right, it's just those man. Yeah, but it's been great listening to you on this podcast honestly today specifically, like you guys, just see him, see you're in good moves, you're happy, you're interacting in a sweet way, and you see. It just seems like a very solid relationship today. The way you're talking to each other about each other's feelings and respecting each other's thoughts. I think this is I'm very encouraged by today's podcast. Thanks Mark. I think we're good right now, right now, especially coming off a perfect day yesterday and a no hitter, a perfect game, whatever you want to call it. I had one of those yesterday. A little goes a long way, that's right, right, We have any more emails? Yeah, Sabrina. I was involved in a four year relationship that ended when I discovered my now ex boyfriend was cheating on me by solicit sex from other women on Craigslist. It's been five years since then. I've moved on. My ex is now married to someone else. I'm with a guy who's honest, caring, and sweet. He's given me no reason to worry about him being unfaithful. I think you can see where this is going. I've been with him for a little over a year, but it's extremely hard for me to shake those feelings that I'm not good enough and that history will repeat itself with my new boyfriend. It has started so many unnecessary arguments because he does not understand how easily triggered I am. How do you shake those thoughts in the back of your mind? How do you explain to someone who has never been through huge earth shattering infidelity that what you need is time and reassurance. That's hard because the other person probably is like, I didn't do that, though, so stop putting me in that person's position. But at the same time, I think that person needs to be gentle and have empathy for the person that you know is having trouble with it. But at the same time, it's how um Sabrina, you're delivering it to him because you have to come from a vulnerable place to be like, Hey, I'm so sorry, I'm getting triggered. I know it has nothing to do with you. It's just my past, because if you're communicating from a vulnerable place, he's going to be able to be more. He's going to lean into empathy and not be on the attack or the defense of Well that's not me though, because if you're leaning in vulnerable, he'll lean in with empathy, is my opinion. Yeah, I mean that's very well said, Honey. I think that was really well said, thanks Mark. Yeah, I don't really know what to say after that because it was pretty spot on. Give it to us again. Lean in with vulnerability and well, you know, be vulnerable and then hopefully then your partner will lean in with empathy. Do you guys wething to lean into each other, but just one with vulnerability and one with empathy. Yeah. It's all about validating that this has nothing to do with him, that you do not accuse him of anything. Um, because if you start if if Sabrina started saying, well where were you or let me see your phone? If I was in a new relationship, I yeah, but I could also see how like in her situation to say we didn't work, I would be like, man, this is I don't trust anybody? For sure. I was I was going to say that when marquess Reno. I was like, could you imagine if you would be really tough and I would need I would, but I would be very I was thinking about, like, Okay, what would I say to a new guy. I would say, look, I've this is what I've been through, and I'm going I, of course I know you, that's not you, but I'm scared. So you know, just if you're vulnerable and oh yeah, like Jan said, be vulnerable, guys want to be your night and shining armor. So if you lead with that vulnerability, like especially with her saying how caring an honest and sweet he's been. I's optimistic that he'll lean into that challenge and be that, you know, night and shining armory and be like I got you, like there's nothing to worry about, and reassure you in any way that you need. And at the end of the day too, he might who knows anybody has the capability of doing it. And that just means that, Okay, wasn't the right one and if that's not what you want and then move on. Just because people get their heartbroken. I think that's what bothers me. I don't want to get my heartbroken again. Well, then you're you're gonna be lonely forever then because you're gonna get your heartbroken. You're gonna get your heartbroken ten more times, probably, but also maybe not maybe not great emails. That was good, great show. Yeah, okay, Next up is People's Choice Awards, so I'm just excited to go. It'll be a good times, a great time. Yeah. I'm pumped to have a date night with you. Yeah, alright, good luck. You guys want the I heard award last year, No chance, but it's fine. Come on now, you don't know, it's fine. So I just you know, do something to go viral, and no matter who they announced, I just go up to accept the award apparently. So oh yeah, see you guys are doing well and going viral the past month or so, so good job on that. Keep it going. It's off for the votes right now. Okay. With this Kanye thing I told Jane, I was like, yeah, like a devil's triangle between Meknye and Olivia Colpo. They're probably both like, who's this guy saying his name is Michael Casson even on their radar. Well, I mean you are now public enemy number one. Al Right, guys, um Daily Challenge len In, you're so inspiring, ye,