February Listener Questions & Wrap Up (The Edge)

Published Mar 1, 2024, 6:00 AM

 Kelly and Chip circle back to wrap up this month of podcasts all about sex, love, dating and relationships. They also answer listener questions from the new VE Voicemail about dating app alternatives and how to get your partner to go to therapy.

 
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Hey, chip Hi, Oh my god, it's hard.

That was wild.

It's actually today is March first that this podcast is coming out, but we're wrapping up February. I think it's so weird. I was saying, this is someone the other day is like, so February, this is a leap yer. Everyone's freaking out about that, right, like it's like a big deal. And that means that we have twenty nine days in February instead of twenty eight. But then how come like January has thirty one? Who made this calendar? Is what I want to know? Do you know what I mean? It doesn't make sense.

It's wild. Well, you know, because the year is three hundred and sixty five and a quarter days long, that's why there's a leap here. Well that just does everything so mean, I know, I don't know how. I mean, the fact that someone figured that shit out blows my mind.

But also did they figure it out or did they make it up? Do you know what I mean? It's like daylight savings, Like do we have to have that or is that just some sort of weird poche we put on ourselves January?

Like, I guess the way that the year is is January is usually like January, so it's like we did, there is a loop and it is based around revolutions around the sun. Okay, going around the sun so or yeah, or the sun going around. I don't know. I'm not a scientist, but.

I was about to say, like, I love that you're acting like an expert on this right now.

You know what's funny about the leap here. I've got a coworker who's getting married on that day and he's like, that way, we only have to celebrate every four.

Years, but that would get more confusing because you will, you will inevitably forget the years that you're supposed to remember. So he's kind of sucking himself.

If you ask me, that is true. He's really organized. I have faith in him.

Okay, well, well wishes. We have been talking about dating and love and relationships and sex because it's obviously February. It was February, which is considered the month of love. Another thing we've made.

Of That's blame Hallmark for that one.

But we've covered a lot of bases and you and I on the Edge really focused on the sex piece of things. So we were going to kind of dive into that but I do remember you saying you had a couple updates for us about exploring, which for the listeners if you're not a regular listener of the Edge part of this podcast. Every year Chip and I pick a word as like the theme of our year, and my word this year is discipline, and Chip's word this year is explore, and so we kind of pum back in to those words every now and again. We check back in and you know, make notes of the things we are doing. And once you really set an intention of a word, it's interesting because your life really does start to mimic those kind of things. So you start to notice, Okay, here's a moment where I can choose to lean into my word. Like for me, it could be like I could choose to be lazy right now, or I could choose to lean into my word of twenty twenty four, which is discipline, and so step up and do the thing that I don't feel like doing, but I'm being disciplined, so I'm going to do it. And your word is explore. So you were just telling me about what you did with your sister, and I'm.

Like, what, well, before I tell that story, Like, it's also funny too, because I don't know if you have a similar experience. I mean, you're you're deeper in the knowledge of horoscopes. But I've often like this astrology people astrology, but like specifically for horoscopes, Like when I read a horoscope, like sometimes they're so like so on the nose that I can't believe it. But sometimes they're like so broad that like if you think about it hard enough, you're like, oh, yeah, that applies. So like sometimes when we're doing these wrap ups, like I sometimes catch myself being like, well, what fits into explore? I can't necessarily put a finger on it. Sometimes if it was something I was intentionally doing as exploring, or it's like my subconscious being like okay, here's here's what you asked for, this is what you're going to do. But okay. So to tell the story, So my sister turned fifty in February on the eighth, and she had a party on the seventeenth. Her husband also turned fifty like four days before her, but she's it's her birthday month, and but her neighbors threw this great party, and so I flew home to Virginia for it, and I told her I was like Hey, it's your it's your fiftieth. I want to get you something really special, like let me know if there's something like really nice you want, you've wanted or needed that you felt like you couldn't afford. I'm willing to spend money. And she asked for four Kip More tickets and I was like, Jenny, I we work with Kid Moore. I can probably get those for yeah, like let's stream bigger. It's your fifty and I mean all love to Kip.

Yeah, not a knock.

I will spend money and so and his team.

So you should tell him that. That was I know, I will like flattering thing for a big, big birthday celebration and month.

And his team is graciously like taking care of those.

Yeah, yeah, of course.

And then I was like, you know, she was like what about you know, I was like, do you and Brian want to go somewhere that's her house, She's like Jamaica, And I said tell me when, and he came back and said, I'd rather go to Nashville, you know, later in the year, and I was My response was I didn't ask what Brian wanted, you know, like all respect to Brian, like it was for my sister so right. It made me. It reminded me of this time we went I took I won this cruise through work, like it was like for spending AD a certain amount of AD dollars. I didn't even know like was an option. And I took my sister on a crew. It's so weird. I took my sister on a European cruise and it was like literally one of the we still talk about it like all the time, and it was like one of the best times of my life. So I was like, I want to take my sister. It's gonna the two of us are going to go somewhere. We're going to go on an adventure and explore. So I texted her and I said, what what's the status of your passport? And she's like, it expires February of next year. And I was like, okay, we're good. And I was like, I need I need a week. Tell me if this week works for you, and so she approved a week, and I have decided I'm taking my sister to Paris for the first time. We're going to be there for three days and then we're going to train down to the south of France to visit. This guy named Sebastian who was the exchange didn't live with my family.

We've talked about Sebastian on this podcast.

So he's like our French brother. So yeah, yeah, And so I flew in and I've like, I got her like a, I got her a ll bean bag with her name monogrammed on it, and it I made a fake airline ticket, and I bought a book of French phrases and made a card and said this is what I'm doing. She started shaking and crying. It was pretty amazing.

That is like the nicest brother gift I think I've ever heard of.

Yeah, and you know it's I've also told you this. I like splurged and booked first class on the way there because I want to be able to sleep because it's an overnight flight and we have to hit the ground running because we only get three days in Paris, right, And she's like her friends were like what, and like, I wouldn't have done it if it weren't such a good deal. But it was, like a. It was surprise cheap, which is also weird because we're going to be there the week before the Olympics start, so you would have thought that the price.

Maybe everyone's going yeah, but maybe everyone's waiting for the next week.

Yeah maybe maybe.

Yeah, So so interesting, that's exploring. That's a big time explorer moment.

Yeah.

Wow.

Like literally Brother of the Year award goes to tour.

And it's a little selfish because I wanted to go, and yeah, half of the money I'm spending is for me.

And have you been to Paris before?

I have? Yeah, and I've been to this place in the south of France too, so but it is it's like my explorer for this is about like I'm I'm What excites me the most about it is it's so much better than buying her a product purse because it is it's an experience that we will talk about for the rest of our lives.

I that is the thing when I get in relationships and you know, whoever I'm dating at the time is like a gift giver or whatever. I'm always like, let's go, let's go somewhere, let's make a trip, Let's have an experience versus the things. Because you get to a certain age where it's like you mostly buy the things you want, you know, or you save up and get them or whatever it is. So the experience to have with someone is so much more valuable.

I agree, because I mean, you can connect on a deeper level, especially when you're dating. But my sister and I don't get to spend it. She's a mother of two's, we live in different states. I'm going to get seven days of time with her also when she is going to have to rely on me because I don't speak French. Well, but like I can get by there. She didn't speak a word of it.

You know what is it?

You know of the national anthem? You know that?

Yes? And yeah. So it's like it's I mean, it's it's going to be amazing, Like I get I feel like the greatest brother in the world. And that's not me patting myself on the back. It's just like to face yeah, like giving, giving can be really fun.

So really, yeah, well that's amazing.

I explore for the month.

I love this for you.

We're going in July July. What July seventeenth through twenty fourth.

I was about to say, you better not miss my birthday, bitch.

Oh shit, could you imagine I'm kidding?

I would let you off the book.

I'll have to take you to Paris next.

Well, we were also talking before the podcast because it's actually like kind of ironic we're the ones sitting here talking about love because both of us are actually now single again.

Yeah, the months of love did not work out for me this.

Yeah, I mean, here's the thing about dating as you get older, And tell me if this resonates for you. But like, I don't look at my last relationship. I mean it ended, yes, but I don't look at it as a waste of time or a failure or anything like that. In fact, I had so many positive experiences within that relationship, and ultimately the timing just wasn't right, and so it just didn't end up working. But I feel like the experience itself was so different for me than any other relationship I've ever had because of how I showed up and that was such a gift to me to see my own progress and then also what a relationship could actually be when I'm showing up as my full, authentic right self, you know, And so like it doesn't feel like a failure. It just feels like thank you for that experience, Universe more please, Like I.

Have so much gratitude for my relationship.

Yeah, and so because we're saying they ended. I feel like a lot of people will be like, oh my god, are you okay? And whatever? And I feel like you and I both have the same energy about it, which is that of course there's sadness and there's grief that comes with like the transition of someone shifting in your life. But also I think both of us left on good terms and so hopefully, you know, like you can remain friends to some degree. And then it's also just like, but it wasn't for nothing, you.

Know, it was no And I feel like personally I grew a lot and so I can take you know, people say back, don't bring baggage, but like some baggage has good shit in it, you know, like I get to bring the good shit into my next relationship, and you know, for the first time I can. I can look myself in the mirror and know that I like I had my own back in the relationship, and that feels really good. Like I stood up for myself. I put myself first. And you know, as someone, I am a people pleaser. I'm a non confrontational person. I know that about myself, so I often will like hurt myself to not hurt somebody else, and then I ultimately hurt the other person a lot more because I'm I'm I'm a pussy And in this instance, you know, I only took how much I was willing to take. And and you know, I will forever be grateful for all the good things and for him coming into my life and all of the things. But I also felt like I got to know myself better, and I you know, it was what it was, and I'm happy about it. Like I'm not happy about the breakup. I'm happy about the happy.

The way that you feel. Yeah, And looking back, I think we had the same thing. Yeah. So anyway, sending everyone off with love and life, and we'll keep talking about love and relationships and sex and dating and all the things, because it's just a constant evolution. And to me, the other big piece of the big difference of how it looks in my life now as from where it did in the past, was like breakups used to be so fucking crippling to me because the relationship was my whole universe, you know, And like there's been a shift since I feel like it's since I entered my forties. But it's also just lined up that way based on the work that I've done on myself, and then I happen to turn forty and whatever. But like, the relationship with a piece of my life is a piece of the pie, but it wasn't everything, and so it does make walking away a little bit easier because you're not just like, oh my god, I've completely lost my life or whatever. I actually did a solo episode just about breakups and like some of the things that I've learned about filling that space that you have, like you know, that empty space that you have after a breakup because you used to be doing something with your partner or you used to be talking to them on the phone or texting all day or whatever, and just like how to get back to yourself. And I've noticed that this time around, like that has been such an easier experience for me, me too, but also because I didn't leave myself as much, or I just didn't leave myself within the relationship, so I didn't have to go find myself again after it was like oh, no, there I am, And like, how do I get even more back into like a deeper knowing of me and learning more about the things I love to do and what I want, and that relationship taughty that so it was so well worth it to me.

Funny because I mean, I guess the timing of mine was was advantageous for me because I had started working out again, so suddenly I had more time to focus on myself. And it's just like this past weekend, I got a new bike. I went riding like I was like I hadn't been able to use it because I didn't have a bike clock. I was like, I'm going to ride to the bike store. I'm an buy a lock, and on the way home, I'm gonna stop at the gym. I was like so sporty this weekend, and it's I'm going to be I'm going to bed earlier, like I'm taking that time and I'm investing it back into myself rather than like being like self loathing and sitting around and just being sad. Yeah, And I think that has helped with the transition too, because it's I'm giving myself good energy.

I love that. So anyway, if you're listening and you're single or going through a breakup, like we're right there with you. That doesn't mean you can't talk about love or dating or sex or relationships. It's going to be a part of your life at some point. In fact, we you sent me this article earlier today, we were like, we have to mention this because it's so funny and random. But your sex life could actually get in the way of the apartment you're leasing. In certain cities, tell the listeners about that article you sent me.

So I got served this. It was something on Instagram, but the article is from Vice. And there's I guess there's landlords in London right now that prohibit things like music after eleven pretty common. Yeah, false party's pretty common. But now they're prohibiting loud sex and they check in. They'll like, ask your neighbors if anyone's hearing you have loud sex.

Yeah I didn't see that part. Yeah, yeah, I was about to say, how do they regulate it?

And they charge their victim They'll like, they'll charge their victims. Sorry, they'll charge their tenants. I mean, honestly, they are sort of victims of privacy invasion. But they'll charge the tenants for having people over, for like have that's sex.

That is such a buzzkill in your own place to not be able to just like let loose you know, yeah, you know how you are in a hotel, you're like a little bit concerned. You're like, oh my god, everyone on the floor is in this experience with me, which could be good or bad. I guess right.

The person that got interviewed, her name's Lucy. She's twenty three, and she said she found it funny at first, and this is her quote. I thought, how are they going to believe that? But the landlord does inspections himself, and he actually mentions it when he visits. She tells vice, we're all girls, and he starts lecturing it's about the youth of today being hyper sexual and telling us to save ourselves for marriage. Oh so it goes beyond just like that's a disturbance, Like it's a moral thing for him.

But that is I mean, I guess it's his building. He can do what he wants. But I wouldn't want to live there where someone's imposing their views on me. Like it's one thing to worry about noise, but to come and lecture me about my sex life and what I need to be doing or not doing is crossing a line. Like you can't tell people how to live their life because they're renting an apartment from you, right, I.

Mean, I guess if you're very upfront about it and it's not buried in the lease agreement, Like if you're like, this is a no sex zone, are you sure you want to rent it? Like, then the person can have the choice. But like if it's just a little thing. First of all, who reads a lease? I know, right, exactly, don't read a lease until like you're in an argument with your landlord. You know.

I feel like this guy like has signs up though, you know what I mean, Like he's that guy that's like, no loud music, no sex.

Well, I think there was like a no fucking sign on the thing that I saw.

Oh yeah, God. It's all reminds me of this episode of Sex in the City, which I feel like I quote a lot, but it just comes in my brain because it's like I've seen every episode eight hundred times and I feel like they're all my friends and we lived life together. So there's an episode though where Samantha has loud neighbors or she moves to a new place and her neighbors end up being these two people who just have like insane sex all the time and it's really loud and at first, she's really upset about it, and then she just switches the narrative and starts like masturbating with them. Like it's like so they're like screaming between the walls, you know, to each other. And eventually she goes over there and knocks on the door and they open the door and they're like this utterly couple that she's not at all attractive to. So she leaves. But she's been having like verbal or vocal or group sex, dound group sex, yes, before that. So I mean it is what you make it. I guess the point would be there.

Wow.

Yeah, that's a fun little tidbit. So anyway, if you guys are single in a couple looking to rent an apartment in London, make sure you read the fine print.

Or keep it down. Yeah exactly, But I say read the fine print.

I think read the five print's a good one. We did have a couple lists her voicemails that I thought were pertinent. Is that the right word?

Yeah?

Did that work?

There?

Okay, I've had a long day, guys. I don't know. Sometimes you know how I make up words or I say the wrong ones and it just so happens. There's a microphone in front of my face. So you're welcome everyone, Okay, but anyway, I felt like these were in line with the love and dating topics, and one is one of my friends, Stacy, So I want to hear your feedbackchip on once you think about this.

Okay, Hey, Kelly, it's Stacy. I really liked this question or this whatever this is, but you're freaking cool. Anyways, I was just thinking, I made an Instagram real that's kind of like all the weird things about me and the cute things, and it's kind of sexy too, and I just want to post it as like my dating profile on Instagram and just see where do you universe takes it? And then I kind of feel weird about it. So I was just wondering, is that weird? Is that a cool thing? Should we start this? Should I just lay low? Should I just get back on the dating apps? Which makes me want to throw open my mouth? I don't know.

So if you have an expert.

Expert at nervous theory, that'd be cool if you could ask them. But I would also appreciate your advice too, because I feel like you are an expert. Anyways, Love you girl.

The funniest part was that Stacy texts me and said, uh, wait, when do you respond or when are you going to respond to that? Like she thought that I just like you called me, and I just called She's adorable, the cutest accent ever. But so basically what she's saying is she's hated dating apps. Like it's just you know how they are. They can look. I think we all have that moment with them, or we kind of ebb and flow back and forth to liking them or not liking them. But she was like, I saw had just kind of put a reel together, and it's got this cute stuff about me. Some of it's sexy, sort of the things that you would say about yourself on an app. But she's like, is it weird if I just post that on it?

I fucking love the idea. Okay, this is this is why I think she should And I understand her hesitation because it's a really vulnerable.

Thing to do, and you're putting.

It out there for your friends and family to see. Like it's one thing if your friend is also on a dating app and they still across your thing, but like generally if it's the same, if it's your girlfriends aren't gonna find you on bumble because they're looking for good dude. So it's like your close friends aren't gonna see those things. So it's really vulnerable to put this on Instagram and know that, like your friends might share it with their friends and be like, oh my god. Whatever. But you know, I think I don't know how old Stacey is, but she's a water mid Yeah. A lot of younger people that they're not using dating apps. They are slightly into dms on Instagram and Snapchat, and that's how they're meeting people. And I think that this, if she did some if she, if she has the courage to put this up, it is going to find people that feel the same way about dating apps as her, and it's going to draw them to her Instagram, which is a real it's a more real slice of her life. Like obviously all of our instagrams are we're putting our best foot forward. But sure they're gonna they're going to see something that's a little bit more three D than what you are forced to do on a dating appy, and and you're gonna it's going to reach people who aren't on dating apps. I think it's a brilliant idea, and I think it could really work for her and it could start a trend.

I actually do me either, And then she said it, and I thought to myself, we are kind of wasting this space of social media where there's so much more connectedness, and like even on the Explore page, things get reposted. You know, it's just like the chance of seeing someone seeing it seems bigger, you know what I mean, because a lot.

Like type I would be like, this bitch is brave. I'm yeah, you know what I mean.

It's just like a she looks like a badass to me. She's like, here, I am, world, and is there anyone out there who feels like they're a good match for me? Obviously there's a lot of people who won't be. But it's almost even better to me than the apps in the way of like it's just the mass audience, like the chances of it reaching someone else, and it also does put it in the hands of the universe.

And you know, she might have a friend from high school that doesn't know she's single, right, that knows how fucking cool she is. And that friend might have a friend who is single that she can be like, oh my God, my friend is single, she should reach out, right. I just think there's so many possibilities. All that said, I haven't seen the reel, so like she might.

Let us let us approve it.

Yeah, like we can re edit it if we think I need some help. But I think it's a great idea.

The other thing I was just thinking is, so I'm on Riya, you know, which is like a weird app for dating that you have to like sign up for and get accepted to, and you one of the things that I have always appreciated about Riya, well, one of the things I hate about Riya is everyone on there is kind of like you should know who I am, so they don't write a lot about who they are, which is annoying. I'm like, let's all get over ourselves and just describe ourselves a little bit. But it does link to your Instagram, and so when I want to go find out more info, just like what you're saying, like you do see more of kind of what people are about. You kind of can get more of their energy, even like if they're who they're posting with things like that, it just tells you a little bit more about the person, even though it is a highlight reel. Like we say, it's just way more in depth than you could get in a dating app profile. So anyway, I'm just like, well, let's just skip the middleman here and go straight to a storrely.

Because you can see if they're like, if they travel a lot, if they're adventurous, if they like interesting food, who they follow so like thet they're aesthetic.

Yeah that does matter to me though.

If they're good at editing reels. I mean right, I love the idea, Stacey, I say go for it.

Yeah, so anyway, we approve, and if anyone else out there is like feeling a little bit over the apps, I kind of support this. Let's start a movement. Stacy might have just.

Started to trans the idea.

Yeah. Okay, so Stacey, we we say yet.

I guess so we can share it.

Ooh, I love this. Are we going to start trying to become a dating appilating app? We're so busy though, we're fitness influencers.

We got like so much, We're going to do so much money coming our way.

We better with your tributes booked. Okay, this email, I mean sorry, this voicemail is a little more serious, but I also thought this was hurting it to the topic today.

Hi, Kelly and the ve fam. I want to know a handful of tips as to how to encourage a man who is resistant to therapy to get into therapy. And I know that's a really hard one to tee up for men, especially those who kind of need it, and he really does because he's got to sort through some really heavy things from his past and most recent history. So any help that you can send my way would be great. Thank you. I love the podcast.

Do you want to go first or do you want me to go?

Well?

It was funny because I don't know if my planned response after hearing it is as appropriate as I thought, but I would withhold sex.

Okay, so this is the real healthy.

Yeah, that's that was me joking.

You actually were gonna say cut off the blow jobs. Specifically, what you were going to say, that's how to do what you want him to do? Okay, good time.

I think you have to lay it out how important it is for you and the relationship, and you also have to be willing. I'm assuming that these two people are in a relationship because well yeah, and I think you also have to be willing to let it end the relationship if he isn't willing to do the work that he needs to do, because it does sound like, I mean, her voice sounded like it was coming from a really caring place, Like it's she sounded really sensitive, and you like, enabling somebody to not do the work that they need to do to care for themselves, it's not healthy, it's not healthy for a relationship, and eventually we'll lead to a blow up anyway. So I think it's just like you have to like just really reinforce how important it is for you for him and the relationship, and maybe you know, offer to do some couples therapy just to like and say, like, if you don't feel like you have a problem in your relationship that you need to speak of, it can be like, let's do some therapy together so you can sort of like get an understanding of what it feels like. Because I think it is a really daunting thing, particularly for men to like walk into those situations if they haven't lived a vulnerable life and totally yeah communicative before, because guys tend to be less emotional and great or in touch with their emotions. So maybe you can there can be a little handholding where you find a therapist that you could both go to.

Yeah, similarly to what you just said, I talked to I call him Coach Ryan, And if you listen to that podcast you heard like that's his Instagram handle, but I refer to him, you know, as coach Ryan to all my friends. Now it's like a part of our conversation. But he is a dating coach that talks about a lot about attachment styles and healing your attachment wounds. And so he came on the podcast and he was specifically kind of talking to us about avoidant attachment because I've had a lot of people on that talk about anxious attachment, and it was requested to have someone talk about avoidance. But his big thing for someone in a partner partnership with a person that would be maybe have some avoidant tendencies, ie not want to go to therapy, also avoid doing any sort of self reflection, was that you really do have to have kind of a conditional sort of relationship that's full of boundaries, because if their behaviors are affecting the relationship in a negative way, like what you're saying, it can't really be this unconditional like loving supportive thing, like we would want a relationship to be, Like, you really do have to kind of set your boundaries if it's deeply impacting you. The other thing I was going to say, though, is like, as much as we want to and trust me, I have spent more year and time that I would I would care to share with me and money and think like all the like encouragement you could ever want in the world. Trying to get partners to go to therapy to save relationships, and it just doesn't work. We can't make anyone else do something that is like their work to do, and so as painful as that can be, a lot of times, detachment is your biggest option or your best option, because you know, I think you can set boundaries and I think that can be a part of detachment as well. But you can't really force someone to go do work they don't want to do. So all you can do is take care of your side of the street. So set the boundaries, maybe even do your own work, like your own therapy, because sometimes the healthier you're getting and the more you're focusing on your own growth and like progress, and the less you're focusing on your partner, it is more encouraging to them to then go get what you what you have, Like if they're seeing you grow and you get happier and you have less anxiety, maybe they might be like, huh, I kind of want what she has, Versus if you're berating them all the time, like you really need to go fix this because our relationship isn't going to survive Otherwise that's not going to make anyone want to go do it, you know what I mean? So I think if you kind of try to take the fear out of it, obviously take care of your own needs and like yourself and the relationship. If it's abusive, you have to get out. But like, if there are ways to set boundaries so that you're safe and you're still able to function in your life and even show up for your part of the relationship, I think, Yeah, focusing back on yourself always seems to be what I'm told, At least it's not what I want to do, right. I feel like I want to map out everyone's recovery plan but all the time, but that's my work to.

Do so well. Also a benefit of doing the therapy yourself is you get a non judgmental party that you can share private things with and they can help you work through the things that you might need to say to him to like really get to.

Navigate the boundaries even.

Yeah, because obviously she's not our voicemail system is not the place for her to like be like this, he does this or this happened to him, and he's to work through this. Like, so we don't, we can't. We're sort of giving this advice on of all of the details. But seeing a therapist, you know, it's confidential and they can really help you sort of navigate that with all the information.

Yeah, you know what's so interesting. There's this other guy on Instagram I follow and his name is your Diagnosis, Your Diagnoses or something. Do you follow him?

No?

Oh, he's so good. But he he's a therapist. And he also says, the thing about adult love is not unconditional, Like that's some fairy tale that we have created based on Disney movies and things like that. But in an adult relationship, if you're not showing up in a healthy way or showing up for the relationship in general, doing you know, your own work and your own growth work, Like, there are conditions, and so if it's not working, like ultimately you may have to step out of the relationship too, But I do feel like you can't really just like force someone to do things and go, Oh, but we just love each other, so you know, I'm gonna stay and I'm just gonna keep praying that he goes or whatever, sacrificing your own needs like what you said at the beginning, like adult love is conditional. As unromantic as that sounds, that is the truth. And it's each of our responsibility to show up for the relationship in general and as our best selves when we can, right.

Yeah, I mean it's the word partner, you know. It says it all like it's a partnership, like you have to show up.

So yeah, well those are the two voice was fun, isn't it you? Yeah, And I know for a lot of people it's like nerve wracking because you obviously are saying your problems out loud, but nobody knows your voice, like, and we're not going to say your names, so we'll keep it all anonymous. I hope you guys keep them coming. I really enjoy them, especially for my personal like the solo episodes I'm doing. It is so helpful to have a topic or a question to answer that you guys really want to know, but also just like what you're going through at the same time or at the time, because a lot of times it's Chip and I a line obviously, So yeah, we just love to know all of it. Keep them coming. You can find that in the link in my bio on Instagram. It's at Velvet's Edge and Chip, did you end up putting it in your bio yet?

Yeah, okay, I've got a I think there's like a link tree because it's also got my Amazon wish list in there.

Obviously, So you guys can go buy Chip a gift and also listen to the voicemail I mean, leave us a voicemail in the link in his bio as well. So I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip, what is your instagra?

I'm at Chip Doors. It's H I P D O R S C H.

And if you're old school and you still like to send emails or you know, snail mail or whatever anyone wants to call it, you can also email us at the edge at velvet edge dot com. We also answer that as well. It's just more fun to be able to like record, I mean to play the voicemail back and answer it, you know, because I remember me trying to read those long emails.

Well that's what I was. Well. Also to the problem with those is it loses the tone that you can tone that you can hear in you know, people's voices. So yeah, I really like this one.

Keep the voicemail coming, you guys. Hit it at the link in my bio on Instagram. It's at Velvet Edge, chip is at chip Doors. Emphasis on the piece. That's what you get.

All right.

Well that that concludes the February wrap up. I gotta go catch a flight. So all right, as you go into the weekend and you're living on the edge, I hope you always remember too casual.

Bye bye

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