Allan Savory joins me to talk about the fate of civilisations. The concept of holism, how every action we take is to ultimately try and improve our lives and the importance of management for climate change and desertification. Allan Savory is an absolute hero of mine and empowers us all to make the change because as Allan says organisations are slow to change and often lack common sense and humanity.

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