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Problem where a ticket?

Problem where a ticket?

All right, here we are with that verand new episode of Two Cool Moms. I am Joe Gatto.

All right, here we are with that verand new episode of Two Cool Moms. I am Joe Gatto.

I am Cameron.

I am Cameron.

No, your name is Duncan.

No, your name is Duncan.

Yes, I'm Steve Byrne, one of our our newest employee producers. Yes is uh is Cameron? And you called him Duncan with.

Yes, I'm Steve Byrne, one of our our newest employee producers. Yes is uh is Cameron? And you called him Duncan with.

Authority because I feel like that's the only way to guess the name.

Authority because I feel like that's the only way to guess the name.

It's almost like I'll be Dunky.

It's almost like I'll be Dunky.

Maybe I like.

Maybe I like.

Saying it very very like strong because you make them second.

Saying it very very like strong because you make them second.

Guess their own name.

Guess their own name.

He's like, wait.

He's like, wait.

For a moment, he went, is my name Duncan? He could be.

For a moment, he went, is my name Duncan? He could be.

Cameron? Can you just stand up and and can we both just say say the name? You think he looks like I did, but you say you think a Duncan. He was behind the monitor. Oh, Okay, you say Duncan I say Ralph? Now he looks like a ral Ralph. What do you think I would say, uh, Conrad Conrad. Yeah, it's like an elevated name. Yeah, well I would.

Cameron? Can you just stand up and and can we both just say say the name? You think he looks like I did, but you say you think a Duncan. He was behind the monitor. Oh, Okay, you say Duncan I say Ralph? Now he looks like a ral Ralph. What do you think I would say, uh, Conrad Conrad. Yeah, it's like an elevated name. Yeah, well I would.

Think, uh, Cameron has has some elevation to it. You go by cam camp, Well, if you go by cam camera two different people, you get that you don't have a nickname because you're Steve or Steven.

Think, uh, Cameron has has some elevation to it. You go by cam camp, Well, if you go by cam camera two different people, you get that you don't have a nickname because you're Steve or Steven.

Yeah, that's not Stee the worst.

Yeah, that's not Stee the worst.

Stevie's terrible unless your saying nobody wants it. See Stevie, Stevie.

Stevie's terrible unless your saying nobody wants it. See Stevie, Stevie.

Your sweetness it.

Your sweetness it.

Yeah, Y, Joey's Joey's also Joe, Joseph, Joe and Joey.

Yeah, Y, Joey's Joey's also Joe, Joseph, Joe and Joey.

Three different people, three different people.

Three different people, three different people.

It's like it's me, myself and I pretty different. Right, Okay, so you are a Joe Gatto, Joe.

It's like it's me, myself and I pretty different. Right, Okay, so you are a Joe Gatto, Joe.

Gatta, but I have all three.

Gatta, but I have all three.

I have all three As a Joey, I'm a Joey. And then you grew into a job and I was a Joseph.

I have all three As a Joey, I'm a Joey. And then you grew into a job and I was a Joseph.

You'll be a Joseph later in life.

You'll be a Joseph later in life.

Later in life, will be a Joseph.

Later in life, will be a Joseph.

Yes, when I retire and become an accountant, I take up the CPA examine, I become.

Yes, when I retire and become an accountant, I take up the CPA examine, I become.

I've got to ask you something. Hold on, I have to ask you please do because I know you love to read. What is your favorite book?

I've got to ask you something. Hold on, I have to ask you please do because I know you love to read. What is your favorite book?

My favorite book of all time?

My favorite book of all time?

Of all times? What is what is a book? I want to ask you two things. What is a book you want to read? And what is a book that you have read that you love? Because I've for the record, I've said Joe probably a dozen books, right, and you're always like, I don't know why he said this ship, I'm never going.

Of all times? What is what is a book? I want to ask you two things. What is a book you want to read? And what is a book that you have read that you love? Because I've for the record, I've said Joe probably a dozen books, right, and you're always like, I don't know why he said this ship, I'm never going.

To read it, and you bring him like carry on.

To read it, and you bring him like carry on.

It's like you gift the book to me, like, well, I they room, or at least I do the version of it.

It's like you gift the book to me, like, well, I they room, or at least I do the version of it.

Both great jokes.

Both great jokes.

When I try to read the Room, it goes direct to DVD.

When I try to read the Room, it goes direct to DVD.

My favorite book, my favorit book, Awakened by James S. Murray And a book I want to read, what's the one.

My favorite book, my favorit book, Awakened by James S. Murray And a book I want to read, what's the one.

You'll never get out, You'll never touch Christmas?

You'll never get out, You'll never touch Christmas?

What is it?

What is it?

You Better Watch Out? You Better Watch Out?

You Better Watch Out? You Better Watch Out?

By Jason Burray and Darren Wearmouth.

By Jason Burray and Darren Wearmouth.

I'm really excited about this though, You'll never.

I'm really excited about this though, You'll never.

That's a great title.

That's a great title.

No, my favorite book growing up was my favorit book growing up. I think it was of mice and men. Really, are you fucking with me?

No, my favorite book growing up was my favorit book growing up. I think it was of mice and men. Really, are you fucking with me?

You one book you read there to like, Oh my god, that is a great book.

You one book you read there to like, Oh my god, that is a great book.

Noll be honest to you. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Noll be honest to you. I'm gonna be honest with you.

When I started creative writing, I had this thing that got in my head. And I don't know how I'm talking early, like fourteen fifteen years old. I wanted all my thoughts to be my own. So when I was writing stuff, I didn't want to write something that I read somewhere else. And for some reason that stuck in my head, which is so dumb, I know. But for some reason, I was like, oh, I don't want I want all my stories to be my stories. So I stopped reading, which is true, you just stopped reading. I just really didn't read it unless I had to read it for high school. And honestly, I didn't read much of that anyway. My boy Cliff did, and he gave me the notes about it.

When I started creative writing, I had this thing that got in my head. And I don't know how I'm talking early, like fourteen fifteen years old. I wanted all my thoughts to be my own. So when I was writing stuff, I didn't want to write something that I read somewhere else. And for some reason that stuck in my head, which is so dumb, I know. But for some reason, I was like, oh, I don't want I want all my stories to be my stories. So I stopped reading, which is true, you just stopped reading. I just really didn't read it unless I had to read it for high school. And honestly, I didn't read much of that anyway. My boy Cliff did, and he gave me the notes about it.

I never read that anyway. You know what I'm saying. Some kids are like, well, who's cliff?

I never read that anyway. You know what I'm saying. Some kids are like, well, who's cliff?

Cliff?

Cliff?

Notes were back in the day were very popular media.

Notes were back in the day were very popular media.

Okay, I have to ask you, when was the last time you read a book?

Okay, I have to ask you, when was the last time you read a book?

Honestly?

Honestly?

Yeah, a trade book I've written, I've read. I've read some books about photography, so I've read that. The last book I remember, A Gentleman at the Table, is a book I remember reading, and it was when I was developing my gentleman skills of etiquette and being. I had this thing for a while where I didn't think there's enough gentlemen in the world.

Yeah, a trade book I've written, I've read. I've read some books about photography, so I've read that. The last book I remember, A Gentleman at the Table, is a book I remember reading, and it was when I was developing my gentleman skills of etiquette and being. I had this thing for a while where I didn't think there's enough gentlemen in the world.

I felt.

I felt.

So I was like, you know, boy, were growing up not to be gentlemanly. And I was like, I just want to because you know, my dad died at nineteen. He's dead. Thanks for bringing it up. So I was always like trying. I was always like obsessed with, like how to grow into a man. I guess right, right, it's getting pretty deep here, and I'm now I'm thinking about a lot of things, bringing up a lot of emotions.

So I was like, you know, boy, were growing up not to be gentlemanly. And I was like, I just want to because you know, my dad died at nineteen. He's dead. Thanks for bringing it up. So I was always like trying. I was always like obsessed with, like how to grow into a man. I guess right, right, it's getting pretty deep here, and I'm now I'm thinking about a lot of things, bringing up a lot of emotions.

And you're laughing at me.

And you're laughing at me.

Thank you, no, because I see what you're doing.

Thank you, no, because I see what you're doing.

What you're doing.

What you're doing.

You set me up.

You set me up.

Okay, okay, So.

Okay, okay, So.

I uh yes, I started reading books like that. I remember A Gentleman at the Table.

I uh yes, I started reading books like that. I remember A Gentleman at the Table.

I remember what did you What did you glean from? Gentlemen at the Table was their one resonant lesson.

I remember what did you What did you glean from? Gentlemen at the Table was their one resonant lesson.

I actually remember too that I just remember I gifted it to my nephews when they turned eighteen too.

I actually remember too that I just remember I gifted it to my nephews when they turned eighteen too.

I gave it to both my nephews.

I gave it to both my nephews.

I did it.

I did it.

I did.

I did.

It was but it was one of those like short form books too, kind of thing where it gave you, like the headlines, broke it down will I gave you a little bit of tradition and stuff like that. A gentleman at the table. I really remember, like to cold people by their name, right, Duncan. And that's why that was one of the things. It was like if you call people by the name, don't call somebody in the you know, like if somebody's in the room, don't refer to them as he as if they're not in the room.

It was but it was one of those like short form books too, kind of thing where it gave you, like the headlines, broke it down will I gave you a little bit of tradition and stuff like that. A gentleman at the table. I really remember, like to cold people by their name, right, Duncan. And that's why that was one of the things. It was like if you call people by the name, don't call somebody in the you know, like if somebody's in the room, don't refer to them as he as if they're not in the room.

That was like a big thing.

That was like a big thing.

You know, you make people feel present, that was a part of it.

You know, you make people feel present, that was a part of it.

It's always to make people feel like and I think you do this well just naturally.

It's always to make people feel like and I think you do this well just naturally.

You might have read the book.

You might have read the book.

I don't know, but I think you do that naturally where you make people feel included in the event that they're at you know, people just I think that's a big part of making people feel comfortable in a room, which was.

I don't know, but I think you do that naturally where you make people feel included in the event that they're at you know, people just I think that's a big part of making people feel comfortable in a room, which was.

A big part.

A big part.

That's the best way to be appreciated in a room. It is that you make people feel like you do that I do. Yeah, well I read a book about it, but no, I do. I do think part of it is that. But I remember reading that, so I wonder if that's why I wondered, that's why.

That's the best way to be appreciated in a room. It is that you make people feel like you do that I do. Yeah, well I read a book about it, but no, I do. I do think part of it is that. But I remember reading that, so I wonder if that's why I wondered, that's why.

I do it.

I do it.

I give you a compent, like, yeah, I read the book.

I give you a compent, like, yeah, I read the book.

That's one of the books I remember reading John Went at the Table.

That's one of the books I remember reading John Went at the Table.

How long ago? Was it a long time ago?

How long ago? Was it a long time ago?

Okay, I haven't a book.

Okay, I haven't a book.

I haven't read a book in forever.

I haven't read a book in forever.

You don't find pleasure in reading a book.

You don't find pleasure in reading a book.

You don't.

You don't.

You don't think I'd love to learn more about that subject or that topic or that.

You don't think I'd love to learn more about that subject or that topic or that.

Research I research.

Research I research.

I will go on the intranet, Internet, I'll read up on stuff photography. When I was getting my cameras and stuff, I would do that digital photography, editing. When I started moved over to Adobe Premiere, I did a lot of reading on those kind of things. So that technical stuff I'll read. But as far as reading for pleasure or no, nothing me book on the beach, book on you. You're big on book on a plane I look over you or on the flight together here you go about read did you read this book about Frank It's called The Art of the Deal. That's did you read the audit the Deal?

I will go on the intranet, Internet, I'll read up on stuff photography. When I was getting my cameras and stuff, I would do that digital photography, editing. When I started moved over to Adobe Premiere, I did a lot of reading on those kind of things. So that technical stuff I'll read. But as far as reading for pleasure or no, nothing me book on the beach, book on you. You're big on book on a plane I look over you or on the flight together here you go about read did you read this book about Frank It's called The Art of the Deal. That's did you read the audit the Deal?

You know, it's an amazing book.

You know, it's an amazing book.

Joe wrote it up.

Joe wrote it up.

It's a it's a fantastic it's it's they say.

It's a it's a fantastic it's it's they say.

You can hear everybody turning off the.

You can hear everybody turning off the.

Podcast after the Bible.

Podcast after the Bible.

It's the second greatest book ever.

It's the second greatest book ever.

That's what I've heard. Read.

That's what I've heard. Read.

No, I would all you have to read it just for the joke.

No, I would all you have to read it just for the joke.

Now, No, you know, he just Donald Trump just worked at McDonald's for a day. Yep, and he's writing his next book called The Art of the Mail. There it is okay, but I think that is hilarious that dude worked at McDonald's for a day.

Now, No, you know, he just Donald Trump just worked at McDonald's for a day. Yep, and he's writing his next book called The Art of the Mail. There it is okay, but I think that is hilarious that dude worked at McDonald's for a day.

That's a wheld we live in right now.

That's a wheld we live in right now.

We yeah, so, but you read like when you go to uh, now, how do you purchase books? You like, go into a bookstore or you get recommendations from people?

We yeah, so, but you read like when you go to uh, now, how do you purchase books? You like, go into a bookstore or you get recommendations from people?

Uh you know, Joe, I walk into a bookstore in the book finds me Yeah, No, I don't know. I there's there's topics I like. I like to go to the bookstore. I like to just peruse and then I see a title, I'm like, well, that's interesting in them.

Uh you know, Joe, I walk into a bookstore in the book finds me Yeah, No, I don't know. I there's there's topics I like. I like to go to the bookstore. I like to just peruse and then I see a title, I'm like, well, that's interesting in them.

Did you read Where is Barry? My book?

Did you read Where is Barry? My book?

Yes?

Yes?

Is that your favorite book?

Is that your favorite book?

Is that?

Is that?

My favorite?

My favorite?

My book for forty eight year olds is that it's a picture book.

My book for forty eight year olds is that it's a picture book.

If that was my favorite book, I'd be licking a hot.

If that was my favorite book, I'd be licking a hot.

Pan, right.

Pan, right.

I mean it's a great book. Though. Yeah, it's a very good book. I think it's a great lesson. My son burned through it pretty quickly and he liked it.

I mean it's a great book. Though. Yeah, it's a very good book. I think it's a great lesson. My son burned through it pretty quickly and he liked it.

He want you boy.

He want you boy.

Yeah, But I like that there is It's not just I wish my kids were younger because I would read that book. That would be a book because I think when you when you have a kid, you there's maybe four or five that are always in the rotation, you know, all the places you'll go. Bj Novak wrote a great one, the book with No Pictures. It's so good and my kids love that book. I couldn't recommend it highly enough. I think I bought it. I got it you Yeah, for himself.

Yeah, But I like that there is It's not just I wish my kids were younger because I would read that book. That would be a book because I think when you when you have a kid, you there's maybe four or five that are always in the rotation, you know, all the places you'll go. Bj Novak wrote a great one, the book with No Pictures. It's so good and my kids love that book. I couldn't recommend it highly enough. I think I bought it. I got it you Yeah, for himself.

I did. That's on my reading level.

I did. That's on my reading level.

On you should get him the Art of the Gentleman because he never said thank you gentleman on the microphone, gentleman at the microphone. But but I wish my my uh, I wish that that was a book. Like my son read it. He was a little older, but he's like, oh I like it. Yeah, but you know he's he's just turned nine.

On you should get him the Art of the Gentleman because he never said thank you gentleman on the microphone, gentleman at the microphone. But but I wish my my uh, I wish that that was a book. Like my son read it. He was a little older, but he's like, oh I like it. Yeah, but you know he's he's just turned nine.

Yeah, but he just he just had a birthday. I just had a birthday. Yeah, that's how it happens. That comes every year. Sorry, that comes every year's birthday.

Yeah, but he just he just had a birthday. I just had a birthday. Yeah, that's how it happens. That comes every year. Sorry, that comes every year's birthday.

It happens just that October.

It happens just that October.

Is that your birthday?

Is that your birthday?

October?

October?

I guess a sing at her.

I guess a sing at her.

Yeah, got it.

Yeah, got it.

She's like, I don't care.

She's like, I don't care.

I don't even listen to you, guys.

I don't even listen to you, guys.

She's on LinkedIn right now finding a new job.

She's on LinkedIn right now finding a new job.

I love it.

I love it.

Did you do you like enjoy reading at bedtime before going to sleep?

Did you do you like enjoy reading at bedtime before going to sleep?

Just put make you sleeping night nights?

Just put make you sleeping night nights?

I'd love to, but my wife is always asleep before me.

I'd love to, but my wife is always asleep before me.

Oh so you read laudly?

Oh so you read laudly?

Why would that be an issue?

Why would that be an issue?

I can't try to sleep well.

I can't try to sleep well.

I can't go in and then turn on the lights and wake her up.

I can't go in and then turn on the lights and wake her up.

Book. He's like he entered the room. She's like to me or not to me?

Book. He's like he entered the room. She's like to me or not to me?

Steve, I read it.

Steve, I read it.

I read about I read about Greek mythology because I was obsessed with that for a minute when when I was twenty show nothing recent all this stuff is all otters remembering stuff.

I read about I read about Greek mythology because I was obsessed with that for a minute when when I was twenty show nothing recent all this stuff is all otters remembering stuff.

Really, But you I just I don't know. I'm not saying you should.

Really, But you I just I don't know. I'm not saying you should.

No, I probably should say I should.

No, I probably should say I should.

I know I should, But I'm saying it is it's a healthy distraction.

I know I should, But I'm saying it is it's a healthy distraction.

Yeah. I guess for people that are on the road all the time too, I guess we have the downtime of the the you know, the bus or the or the planes or whatever.

Yeah. I guess for people that are on the road all the time too, I guess we have the downtime of the the you know, the bus or the or the planes or whatever.

But I just not, I'm not into it. You do a lot of things that you make time for. Like you watch a lot of documentaries, right, you do. You're a very studied man. I mean, I'm being serious. Yeah, you're a very studied fellow. Okay, you read a lot. You're big in the doc docs. Yeah, right, you love a good doc doc.

But I just not, I'm not into it. You do a lot of things that you make time for. Like you watch a lot of documentaries, right, you do. You're a very studied man. I mean, I'm being serious. Yeah, you're a very studied fellow. Okay, you read a lot. You're big in the doc docs. Yeah, right, you love a good doc doc.

You are? You?

You are? You?

Also, what's your other hobbies?

Also, what's your other hobbies?

You build legos? So you don't know.

You build legos? So you don't know.

My son kills legos, but I get the bricks for him.

My son kills legos, but I get the bricks for him.

Got you do?

Got you do?

But those are those two things are very time consuming things to read books.

But those are those two things are very time consuming things to read books.

But you know what it is though, It's that I said to myself. I said to myself, I'm saying right now.

But you know what it is though, It's that I said to myself. I said to myself, I'm saying right now.

Yes, you so, it's like when you read a night.

Yes, you so, it's like when you read a night.

That is Hilyricus. I said, instead of being on my phone, Like, put it away and bring a book with you and force yourself to look. I've always enjoyed reading. My father is a big book guy in your life. They may get it from him. But when I sit on the plane, I'm like, all right, I'm not going to get on my phone because I can do that anytime. Let me dedicate this time to reading a book. So when I'm on a flight, I'll read for about twenty thirty minutes. Sometimes I can't sleep, and I'll just read the whole time.

That is Hilyricus. I said, instead of being on my phone, Like, put it away and bring a book with you and force yourself to look. I've always enjoyed reading. My father is a big book guy in your life. They may get it from him. But when I sit on the plane, I'm like, all right, I'm not going to get on my phone because I can do that anytime. Let me dedicate this time to reading a book. So when I'm on a flight, I'll read for about twenty thirty minutes. Sometimes I can't sleep, and I'll just read the whole time.

That was the other thing. You're right, That was the other one.

That was the other thing. You're right, That was the other one.

You're right, Like, you write screenplays and yeah, and things, right, so that's another time consuming thing.

You're right, Like, you write screenplays and yeah, and things, right, so that's another time consuming thing.

So I'm just wondering.

So I'm just wondering.

So you basically ignore your family in your home, so you're just basically ready to get out of me.

So you basically ignore your family in your home, so you're just basically ready to get out of me.

You know.

You know.

I was going back to read one of the screenplays and and I came up with an idea. I had an idea. I'm sure they bubble up for you too, where you'll just walk around you go, oh, that'd be great, and then you start to format it right, And I realized my brother is the kind of guy that remember one time for Thanksgiving We just bought a new condo or whatever in Chicago and the water heater went out on Thanksgiving and everybody's at my place. He knew how the wiring worked, and he was like, oh, I just need to do that and that, and he figured it out. We didn't have to call anybody. It's Thanksgiving. He saved the day we have hot water Thanksgiving. He knows exactly like I could pop the thing off, and I have no idea how any of that works. He never went to school for it. He doesn't. Like. For the first time in my life, when I read Saved the Cat and I understood format of screenplay, I was like, I, you know, like when that that in The Hangover, when Zach Alfinak is doing all that, Yeah, it was that was it for me where I was like, holy shit, I know exactly how to do this. I know all the intricacies, I know foundation all of the sudden it just started coming to me. And so I had this idea. The other day. I was walking and it's just I was like in a mall and I saw these mallwalkers, right, yeah, I love them. I go, oh, there's some old guys walking around the mall and I was like, I wonder how we get how it got there?

I was going back to read one of the screenplays and and I came up with an idea. I had an idea. I'm sure they bubble up for you too, where you'll just walk around you go, oh, that'd be great, and then you start to format it right, And I realized my brother is the kind of guy that remember one time for Thanksgiving We just bought a new condo or whatever in Chicago and the water heater went out on Thanksgiving and everybody's at my place. He knew how the wiring worked, and he was like, oh, I just need to do that and that, and he figured it out. We didn't have to call anybody. It's Thanksgiving. He saved the day we have hot water Thanksgiving. He knows exactly like I could pop the thing off, and I have no idea how any of that works. He never went to school for it. He doesn't. Like. For the first time in my life, when I read Saved the Cat and I understood format of screenplay, I was like, I, you know, like when that that in The Hangover, when Zach Alfinak is doing all that, Yeah, it was that was it for me where I was like, holy shit, I know exactly how to do this. I know all the intricacies, I know foundation all of the sudden it just started coming to me. And so I had this idea. The other day. I was walking and it's just I was like in a mall and I saw these mallwalkers, right, yeah, I love them. I go, oh, there's some old guys walking around the mall and I was like, I wonder how we get how it got there?

You know.

You know.

The one guy looked kind of fit, and I was eating lunch and I saw these guys make two or three laps. I'm thinking, boy, that'd be kind of cool if it was like two army vets, like maybe one lost his wife, the other guy's healthy. He's like, let's let's do something. So they they walk and then they've got to then and then while they're on patrol or whatever, just do it just walking around. You know, they talk about how they're out of the action, et cetera, et cetera. How cool it would be if like these guys saw the beginning of something, maybe it's a terrorist act, maybe it's a heist or whatever, and then all the son, these two guys who are retired that served in the military together bring down this heist while this mall is lockdown or whatever. So it's kind of like Diehard, but for like mallwalkers, right, and then that happens. But I was just thinking that's a good Okay, that's a fun press. But then all of a sudden, the algorithm comes to me and I'm like, well, you need to do that. You need to set it up, what's the inspiration, what's the theme, what's the purpose of this, and then what's your midpoint. I just started like detailing it all, and within fifteen minutes I was like, Oh, I think I have a film, you know, But it's only because like I understood that algorithm, somebody could pop the hood of a car and just understand all the inner workings, the exhaust, the engine and the pistons and just they they know, like I don't know any of that. But that's the one thing where I was like, narrative, I really appreciate, I really understand it. And it's the one thing that came to me later in life. I was like, fuck, I know how to do this.

The one guy looked kind of fit, and I was eating lunch and I saw these guys make two or three laps. I'm thinking, boy, that'd be kind of cool if it was like two army vets, like maybe one lost his wife, the other guy's healthy. He's like, let's let's do something. So they they walk and then they've got to then and then while they're on patrol or whatever, just do it just walking around. You know, they talk about how they're out of the action, et cetera, et cetera. How cool it would be if like these guys saw the beginning of something, maybe it's a terrorist act, maybe it's a heist or whatever, and then all the son, these two guys who are retired that served in the military together bring down this heist while this mall is lockdown or whatever. So it's kind of like Diehard, but for like mallwalkers, right, and then that happens. But I was just thinking that's a good Okay, that's a fun press. But then all of a sudden, the algorithm comes to me and I'm like, well, you need to do that. You need to set it up, what's the inspiration, what's the theme, what's the purpose of this, and then what's your midpoint. I just started like detailing it all, and within fifteen minutes I was like, Oh, I think I have a film, you know, But it's only because like I understood that algorithm, somebody could pop the hood of a car and just understand all the inner workings, the exhaust, the engine and the pistons and just they they know, like I don't know any of that. But that's the one thing where I was like, narrative, I really appreciate, I really understand it. And it's the one thing that came to me later in life. I was like, fuck, I know how to do this.

Pretty wild that your brain could do that without even having any formal training. You didn't school for that, right, You.

Pretty wild that your brain could do that without even having any formal training. You didn't school for that, right, You.

Read it, you read it, you read books about it, right, you read stuff about it, so you kind of self taught.

Read it, you read it, you read books about it, right, you read stuff about it, so you kind of self taught.

Just like photography. I was like, I read at the canto, was like, that's great, and then I wanted to go deeper and deeper and deeper. So the more books I read on storytelling, there's more kind of like collegiate versions of it. But for.

Just like photography. I was like, I read at the canto, was like, that's great, and then I wanted to go deeper and deeper and deeper. So the more books I read on storytelling, there's more kind of like collegiate versions of it. But for.

The collegiate versions.

The collegiate versions.

That's not for you.

That's not for you.

Are you have a levels.

Are you have a levels.

We all have a place where we have to stop.

We all have a place where we have to stop.

So that's we just give me flash cards.

So that's we just give me flash cards.

Oh yeah, we're gonna we can do you know, the book with no pictures. You're good, But the same thing.

Oh yeah, we're gonna we can do you know, the book with no pictures. You're good, But the same thing.

I mean you you've you've written quite a few, and I've had the pleasure of reading two of them.

I mean you you've you've written quite a few, and I've had the pleasure of reading two of them.

I believe it's funny because I sent you for.

I believe it's funny because I sent you for.

He's already doing edit.

He's already doing edit.

Uh no, But how did you?

Uh no, But how did you?

How did you learn? Then?

How did you learn? Then?

I didn't really, I just started writing. Well, I actually wrote my first feature script. I actually had a co writer who helped, who taught me a lot. Josh was a great partner, and then he helped me understand like I told him the story over a couple of zooms we talked about. Then we started writing it. And I had written scripts before, but never really a screenplay. So when I wrote my highschoo movie script, he really helped me with that and also taught me along the way. He's written many, so it was it was nice to have somebody like that. And then my second one I did on my own and just took a lot of that and first I wrote out the story, and then I was like, Okay, let me go back and rewrite it correctly, you know, and then you dive in and you find what you need to do and from the technical.

I didn't really, I just started writing. Well, I actually wrote my first feature script. I actually had a co writer who helped, who taught me a lot. Josh was a great partner, and then he helped me understand like I told him the story over a couple of zooms we talked about. Then we started writing it. And I had written scripts before, but never really a screenplay. So when I wrote my highschoo movie script, he really helped me with that and also taught me along the way. He's written many, so it was it was nice to have somebody like that. And then my second one I did on my own and just took a lot of that and first I wrote out the story, and then I was like, Okay, let me go back and rewrite it correctly, you know, and then you dive in and you find what you need to do and from the technical.

Stuff of oh, you gotta what is this location to also like set the scene like that, you know.

Stuff of oh, you gotta what is this location to also like set the scene like that, you know.

So but I really I enjoy it is another new format for me.

So but I really I enjoy it is another new format for me.

So it's it's damn fun to escape. Yeah, Like when I give myself that moment to go, all right, let's figure this out. When I'm on the road for the next six to eight weeks, I'm gonna love going to my room and just sitting there and banging through for like eight hours a day or whatever. I don't know. For me, it's just it's one of the It's just like I guess some people build a model airplane or whatever. You're just sitting there and you're like it's all coming together. It's like, wow, this is exciting. It's a lot of fun.

So it's it's damn fun to escape. Yeah, Like when I give myself that moment to go, all right, let's figure this out. When I'm on the road for the next six to eight weeks, I'm gonna love going to my room and just sitting there and banging through for like eight hours a day or whatever. I don't know. For me, it's just it's one of the It's just like I guess some people build a model airplane or whatever. You're just sitting there and you're like it's all coming together. It's like, wow, this is exciting. It's a lot of fun.

You did your you said your dad read? Did your mom or dad write?

You did your you said your dad read? Did your mom or dad write?

No, my father kind of wrote here and there, but nothing professional or my grandfather.

No, my father kind of wrote here and there, but nothing professional or my grandfather.

My grandfather was a writer and he I actually finished the story he had.

My grandfather was a writer and he I actually finished the story he had.

He had this story. It was called the The.

He had this story. It was called the The.

Diary of Doctor James Hugo and my mom after you passed away, found the first three chapters of the short story and I ended up.

Diary of Doctor James Hugo and my mom after you passed away, found the first three chapters of the short story and I ended up.

I sat on it for years, and then I found it again.

I sat on it for years, and then I found it again.

If my mom died, I took all the stuff she had and I had my grandfather's story and I reread it, and it was when I was writing. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna finish my grandfather story. So the first three chapters written by him, and then the last chapters written by me, which I thought was really cool.

If my mom died, I took all the stuff she had and I had my grandfather's story and I reread it, and it was when I was writing. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna finish my grandfather story. So the first three chapters written by him, and then the last chapters written by me, which I thought was really cool.

I gotta send to you.

I gotta send to you.

It's really good way.

It's really good way.

And you go to heaven and your grandfather greets you. He's like, you fucked it up? Would that upset you? Why would you touch your work of art not yours? But he didn't fish.

And you go to heaven and your grandfather greets you. He's like, you fucked it up? Would that upset you? Why would you touch your work of art not yours? But he didn't fish.

He had an unfinished story.

He had an unfinished story.

He's like, listen, you just asked me.

He's like, listen, you just asked me.

He's like, yeah, that's pretty awesome.

He's like, yeah, that's pretty awesome.

It was very cool. Yeah, I got it and you finished it.

It was very cool. Yeah, I got it and you finished it.

And then who'd you so?

And then who'd you so?

I self published it?

I self published it?

Well, did you really?

Well, did you really?

By?

By?

Uh?

Uh?

No?

No?

It was like it was it only was.

It was like it was it only was.

Like, hold on, were you a ghost writer?

Like, hold on, were you a ghost writer?

It was no.

It was no.

My grandfather was because he was dead that he was the ghost writer.

My grandfather was because he was dead that he was the ghost writer.

He would be the ghost writer, not me, dope, but you fucking he's the I'm not the ghost he's a ghost writer, Scooby doo.

He would be the ghost writer, not me, dope, but you fucking he's the I'm not the ghost he's a ghost writer, Scooby doo.

Okay, So all right, I I.

Okay, So all right, I I.

It was I got, I got to get this year.

It was I got, I got to get this year.

But that was I did put that on myself to finish this story.

But that was I did put that on myself to finish this story.

And I thought that was cool. That was a cool experience. And I have a couple half written things that I'm going to leave to you in my will. I wanted to finish my stories.

And I thought that was cool. That was a cool experience. And I have a couple half written things that I'm going to leave to you in my will. I wanted to finish my stories.

Well, should we get into it? This is too with your problems, your issues, your queries anything. It could be trivial, it could be personal.

Well, should we get into it? This is too with your problems, your issues, your queries anything. It could be trivial, it could be personal.

It could be.

It could be.

Where it's you need help, and that's why we're here. It's not like it would be like a breakfast cereal or no. No, it's not that it's like, oh you did you what's the best book you ever read? We already covered that. So now we get into the dirt as they call it.

Where it's you need help, and that's why we're here. It's not like it would be like a breakfast cereal or no. No, it's not that it's like, oh you did you what's the best book you ever read? We already covered that. So now we get into the dirt as they call it.

Yeah, you want directions, you want me to lift the hood. I go as hard, as harder, as lie as you want.

Yeah, you want directions, you want me to lift the hood. I go as hard, as harder, as lie as you want.

So where do we find these queries that people need help with?

So where do we find these queries that people need help with?

Who do who do we.

Who do who do we.

Go to.

Go to.

So people can reach us on the emails pod of Gmail or on the Instagram to Cool Moms pod. So we have one. This one's gonna be directed right at Steve coming at us. Direct question from r j M says, please help, I'm so hungover.

So people can reach us on the emails pod of Gmail or on the Instagram to Cool Moms pod. So we have one. This one's gonna be directed right at Steve coming at us. Direct question from r j M says, please help, I'm so hungover.

Well let's go. Let's go.

Well let's go. Let's go.

This three hour episode starts now.

This three hour episode starts now.

A very special two Cool Moms. If you're hungover. See, this is the great thing about our job is that we can sleep it in. We can just just sit in the hotel room all day and nurse it off. And that is my favorite.

A very special two Cool Moms. If you're hungover. See, this is the great thing about our job is that we can sleep it in. We can just just sit in the hotel room all day and nurse it off. And that is my favorite.

Him, I love it.

Him, I love it.

But hydrate. You've got to force yourself to drink a ton of water. Yeah, you eat something.

But hydrate. You've got to force yourself to drink a ton of water. Yeah, you eat something.

Greasy, Yeah right, they say that, right.

Greasy, Yeah right, they say that, right.

Yeah, it's the best. And then just give yourself the time to just lay down and nurse it out and go. I'll never do that again, knowing a week later you'll do it again. Yeah.

Yeah, it's the best. And then just give yourself the time to just lay down and nurse it out and go. I'll never do that again, knowing a week later you'll do it again. Yeah.

I remember I sat as it hungover once. Particularly you came down. We were going to drive the next day, and you came down. Your hood was up and like closed, and you got.

I remember I sat as it hungover once. Particularly you came down. We were going to drive the next day, and you came down. Your hood was up and like closed, and you got.

In the car and you didn't sit in the car. You just opened the door.

In the car and you didn't sit in the car. You just opened the door.

I just fell inside, put your feet and shut it. He just laid in the back of me. Mark drove to where we were driving.

I just fell inside, put your feet and shut it. He just laid in the back of me. Mark drove to where we were driving.

My body was like Santa's bag, and I think just dropped.

My body was like Santa's bag, and I think just dropped.

I think we kept on putting on uh at night?

I think we kept on putting on uh at night?

What is that one?

What is that one?

To be right?

To be right?

Boot and you're like stop it please?

Boot and you're like stop it please?

But this Yeah, yeah, hangover when it's earned, when it's really like well earned, it sucks. But you also kind of like, at least I like to where it is a badge of honor iron this I did this. This is horrible, it's all self inflicted and but wow, but I'll tell you what, I had a wonderful time.

But this Yeah, yeah, hangover when it's earned, when it's really like well earned, it sucks. But you also kind of like, at least I like to where it is a badge of honor iron this I did this. This is horrible, it's all self inflicted and but wow, but I'll tell you what, I had a wonderful time.

I wonder we were Hangover comes.

I wonder we were Hangover comes.

From I think it's the sugar in the alcohols.

From I think it's the sugar in the alcohols.

The sugar hangs over in your body.

The sugar hangs over in your body.

Yeah, like you can't digest it is that.

Yeah, like you can't digest it is that.

That's where're gonna go with.

That's where're gonna go with.

If you're completely it's a it's a confluence of many things, but you're you're completely dehydrated.

If you're completely it's a it's a confluence of many things, but you're you're completely dehydrated.

No, but the term, so where does it come over? Where does that turn hangover?

No, but the term, so where does it come over? Where does that turn hangover?

Don't google yet?

Don't google yet?

Oh, the hangouts over, The hangs over, but it hangs over that that just that does not sound right but also sounds correct at the same time.

Oh, the hangouts over, The hangs over, but it hangs over that that just that does not sound right but also sounds correct at the same time.

It does.

It does.

Yeah, hangover. I think the effects have hungover like you're hungover. So you got the effects of the fun times, but the fun times are over.

Yeah, hangover. I think the effects have hungover like you're hungover. So you got the effects of the fun times, but the fun times are over.

What do you think hangover comes from?

What do you think hangover comes from?

Where do I think it comes from? I don't know that that that that does? That does not sound right. I'll tell you that. I think you just feel like you're hung out to dry, hung over the railing, Yeah.

Where do I think it comes from? I don't know that that that that does? That does not sound right. I'll tell you that. I think you just feel like you're hung out to dry, hung over the railing, Yeah.

Hung out to dry, hung out to dry?

Hung out to dry, hung out to dry?

All right, what you got what?

All right, what you got what?

I didn't look it up?

I didn't look it up?

Okay, we have a gun.

Okay, we have a gun.

Multiple meanings, unfinished business, you're not.

Multiple meanings, unfinished business, you're not.

Miked at all, finish so you got to say what she's not.

Miked at all, finish so you got to say what she's not.

Hung Okay, so unfinished business, a movie franchise?

Hung Okay, so unfinished business, a movie franchise?

Wait, where'd you see this? Where is it?

Wait, where'd you see this? Where is it?

The whole list? Sorry?

The whole list? Sorry?

Oh, I see okay, unfinished business after effects of alcohol down, undesirable. Yeah, I think it comes from the eighteen nineties. The earliest known use of the known hangovers in the eighteen nineties, in an illustrated monthly magazine recreation. The word hangover is a derivat deviation of the words hanging over.

Oh, I see okay, unfinished business after effects of alcohol down, undesirable. Yeah, I think it comes from the eighteen nineties. The earliest known use of the known hangovers in the eighteen nineties, in an illustrated monthly magazine recreation. The word hangover is a derivat deviation of the words hanging over.

I know that.

I know that.

This is bad.

This is bad.

This is like you know the Google AI is supposed to know everything.

This is like you know the Google AI is supposed to know everything.

It says.

It says.

The hangover is put together from the words hanging over.

The hangover is put together from the words hanging over.

All right, great, I'm glad we got to the bottom.

All right, great, I'm glad we got to the bottom.

It's a derive it comes from. I'll do my own AI on this. I'll tell you the greatest cure for a hangover is getting ahead of it. Alcohol armor, this stuff.

It's a derive it comes from. I'll do my own AI on this. I'll tell you the greatest cure for a hangover is getting ahead of it. Alcohol armor, this stuff.

That's right.

That's right.

You love that stuff.

You love that stuff.

I use it. I swear by it. I bring with me to Vegas. You have a little shot ski of it before you start. It's like a little fruit shot. And then I put two by my toothbrush, so I know when I come home, pound these and that's it. And I wake up and I don't feel horrible. I don't feel bad at all. And I'm telling you I couldn't recommend highly enough. I think I don't know where you can.

I use it. I swear by it. I bring with me to Vegas. You have a little shot ski of it before you start. It's like a little fruit shot. And then I put two by my toothbrush, so I know when I come home, pound these and that's it. And I wake up and I don't feel horrible. I don't feel bad at all. And I'm telling you I couldn't recommend highly enough. I think I don't know where you can.

I remember you dispersing them at a place we were together, and you would look like you had like a trench coat full of.

I remember you dispersing them at a place we were together, and you would look like you had like a trench coat full of.

Yah.

Yah.

They used to have hangover patches when I was in college. You get at the gas station. I'm pretty sure I have a twitch from that. But uh, you'd put on the patch before you would start drinking. And it was supposed to like cure the hangover.

They used to have hangover patches when I was in college. You get at the gas station. I'm pretty sure I have a twitch from that. But uh, you'd put on the patch before you would start drinking. And it was supposed to like cure the hangover.

But did it ever? Slightly?

But did it ever? Slightly?

Even I just thought it was fun. You know, like we all, like the whole crew would put them on together. And I don't know if it ever was.

Even I just thought it was fun. You know, like we all, like the whole crew would put them on together. And I don't know if it ever was.

Boys, let's patch up at the patch.

Boys, let's patch up at the patch.

White Castle is probably they're great.

White Castle is probably they're great.

That's probably.

That's probably.

I think that's what that should be.

I think that's what that should be.

That that should be the whole end campaign, one hundred percent.

That that should be the whole end campaign, one hundred percent.

They should open from eleven pm to four am, and that's it.

They should open from eleven pm to four am, and that's it.

Hungover Castle, we're here for you.

Hungover Castle, we're here for you.

We're here to nurse your back to health. Nobody should be here.

We're here to nurse your back to health. Nobody should be here.

Come hang over at the Castle. You see what I'm saying. All right, So I think we answered that for that fella for sure.

Come hang over at the Castle. You see what I'm saying. All right, So I think we answered that for that fella for sure.

Dylan hiss us up on the Instagram. Okay, so it's a kind of a hypothetical, but he needs help. I think he's in this situation. You see an attractive girl sitting outside their class waiting for it to start. What do you say to her?

Dylan hiss us up on the Instagram. Okay, so it's a kind of a hypothetical, but he needs help. I think he's in this situation. You see an attractive girl sitting outside their class waiting for it to start. What do you say to her?

Oh, so he's looking. How do you break the ice with someone you find his ract?

Oh, so he's looking. How do you break the ice with someone you find his ract?

It's an icebreaker, But it's also a school setting, so maybe you have some common ground.

It's an icebreaker, But it's also a school setting, so maybe you have some common ground.

What's the latest book you read? It writes itself. I mean, that's easy. It's so hard not to be creepy. It's so hard, Like I what do you say, first of all, don't sit there and watch somebody.

What's the latest book you read? It writes itself. I mean, that's easy. It's so hard not to be creepy. It's so hard, Like I what do you say, first of all, don't sit there and watch somebody.

What are you doing?

What are you doing?

Like hopefully she'll look at you and you'll be staring at her wide eyed.

Like hopefully she'll look at you and you'll be staring at her wide eyed.

Uh.

Uh.

Yeah, that's tough. That's always comes off. There's a creep factor. The one on one approach always feels a little odd to me when I'm a way more comfortable in there's a group of people.

Yeah, that's tough. That's always comes off. There's a creep factor. The one on one approach always feels a little odd to me when I'm a way more comfortable in there's a group of people.

Yeah, going into a ground, I don't mind. I don't mind one.

Yeah, going into a ground, I don't mind. I don't mind one.

When I say a group of people, I don't mind infiltrating a group of people.

When I say a group of people, I don't mind infiltrating a group of people.

I don't have to be with a group.

I don't have to be with a group.

But when it's one on one, that's always felt a little bit harder for me.

But when it's one on one, that's always felt a little bit harder for me.

The social setting, yeah, dictates a lot like it's eat If you're in a bar, well, yeah, it's easy to talk to somebody. If you're in a coffee shop, yeah, kind of creep. Grocery stores, like you do get away from me.

The social setting, yeah, dictates a lot like it's eat If you're in a bar, well, yeah, it's easy to talk to somebody. If you're in a coffee shop, yeah, kind of creep. Grocery stores, like you do get away from me.

I'm trying to.

I'm trying to.

It's like, I don't know, that's a that's a tough one to pull unless you're in the class. But look, if you're on campus with her, you're going to see her at some point hopefully.

It's like, I don't know, that's a that's a tough one to pull unless you're in the class. But look, if you're on campus with her, you're going to see her at some point hopefully.

Well, this guy's clearly clearly following up.

Well, this guy's clearly clearly following up.

You make me drool?

You make me drool?

Do you want me to walk into your house? I know how to get there, Ratio.

Do you want me to walk into your house? I know how to get there, Ratio.

What are you doing here?

What are you doing here?

I know it's in your fridge?

I know it's in your fridge?

Yeah, I would.

Yeah, I would.

Say, I would say the easiest thing is to find the common ground. Right, you're both at the university or whatever, will make it school base, just to break the ice and say hello, we'll talk about something.

Say, I would say the easiest thing is to find the common ground. Right, you're both at the university or whatever, will make it school base, just to break the ice and say hello, we'll talk about something.

How do you get to this hall? Or you know?

How do you get to this hall? Or you know?

How did you hear a doctor furbin shirts? Like he's is he a good psychology teacher?

How did you hear a doctor furbin shirts? Like he's is he a good psychology teacher?

Like she doesn't know about furbon shirts?

Like she doesn't know about furbon shirts?

He just asked him, like listen, I'm taking thinking about taking you know, intro to psychology with furbon shirts?

He just asked him, like listen, I'm taking thinking about taking you know, intro to psychology with furbon shirts?

Have you ever taken with doctor Burber shirts? He's like, I never heard doctor Furber shirtz. And you can be like, yeah, I heard Ferber shirts.

Have you ever taken with doctor Burber shirts? He's like, I never heard doctor Furber shirtz. And you can be like, yeah, I heard Ferber shirts.

Kill her.

Kill her.

There you go.

There you go.

You're already having a conversation, right.

You're already having a conversation, right.

That was that worked pretty well?

That was that worked pretty well?

I think that's pretty good.

I think that's pretty good.

I want to follow I want.

I want to follow I want.

To follow up from this person who I want Dylan, Dylan looking look at me. I want you to go, well, say, hey, do you have to take doctor furberschurtz for psychology?

To follow up from this person who I want Dylan, Dylan looking look at me. I want you to go, well, say, hey, do you have to take doctor furberschurtz for psychology?

And I want to know if it worked.

And I want to know if it worked.

Say that name. If it doesn't get a laugh. Yeah, it's so blatantly made up.

Say that name. If it doesn't get a laugh. Yeah, it's so blatantly made up.

It's hilarious.

It's hilarious.

Fourbon shirts.

Fourbon shirts.

Like what you're taking fur shirts.

Like what you're taking fur shirts.

But imagine this, Imagine you go up to to a girl and go you the classic doctor furban shurt. She's like, that doesn't even sound like a real name. It's like, it's not I listened to a podcasts and I was curious how to maybe break the ice talking to you, and Joe Gatto from Practical Jokers wrote me back and said in the podcast, go up and say this.

But imagine this, Imagine you go up to to a girl and go you the classic doctor furban shurt. She's like, that doesn't even sound like a real name. It's like, it's not I listened to a podcasts and I was curious how to maybe break the ice talking to you, and Joe Gatto from Practical Jokers wrote me back and said in the podcast, go up and say this.

That that's that's that's a nice breaker there it is. You're welcome back to But yeah, I want to see.

That that's that's that's a nice breaker there it is. You're welcome back to But yeah, I want to see.

That ferbon shirts, doctor F shirts, p h D.

That ferbon shirts, doctor F shirts, p h D.

Spell fourbon shirts, ferbon shirts.

Spell fourbon shirts, ferbon shirts.

Yeah F E R B E N B I N s H I R.

Yeah F E R B E N B I N s H I R.

T Z close so close.

T Z close so close.

Oh the next one, buddy, Okay, all right, next question, I love making you laugh.

Oh the next one, buddy, Okay, all right, next question, I love making you laugh.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Good, don't try to drink you're gonna choke out, all right, sorry, good.

Good, don't try to drink you're gonna choke out, all right, sorry, good.

All right.

All right.

The next question comes from boson.

The next question comes from boson.

That we's got the guineas.

That we's got the guineas.

Okay, the next question.

Okay, the next question.

I was trying to keep us on track.

I was trying to keep us on track.

Here and I'm sorry.

Here and I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, guys, seriously. The next question comes from both Boso.

I'm sorry, guys, seriously. The next question comes from both Boso.

No, I saw you?

No, I saw you?

You saw me?

You saw me?

Low nose just to close. I'm like, I'm not gonna do it a right, sorry, go ahead, I'm ready.

Low nose just to close. I'm like, I'm not gonna do it a right, sorry, go ahead, I'm ready.

I love you.

I love you.

Hey, asks.

Hey, asks.

Us real.

Us real.

The next question comes from Bozo.

The next question comes from Bozo.

Okay, this is else, thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week.

Okay, this is else, thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week.

Get through it?

Get through it?

Okay?

Okay?

What advice?

What advice?

It was an email?

It was an email?

What advice do you have? What advice do you have for someone who struggles?

What advice do you have? What advice do you have for someone who struggles?

We're getting a question out.

We're getting a question out.

Struggles with maintaining interesting and flowing.

Struggles with maintaining interesting and flowing.

Conversations with people, especially strangers.

Conversations with people, especially strangers.

So how do you?

So how do you?

How do you? You got the how do you?